is there a way to...?

Try this web site for your cpu. Start with the
Celeron 2.8 then do a search for the 1.7, 1.8 or
what ever your Mth Brd can handle.
http://www.pricewatch.com/


2)and I had a 1.7ghz Celeron, now at 100$ I can get
either a used 1.6
Pentium or another 1.7 Celeron How should I spend my
money?

>-----Original Message-----
>I setup windows 98se on my pc it has a pentium100mhz
with about 16mb ram.
>(I crashed my P4 last week)
>as you can see this is a temporary problem, but I would
like to know if I
>can somehow create extra "ram"? I know there is win386
and all about how it
>works, but Im sure that there is a dos program I could
put on another drive
>to act as ram or something. is there anything I can do
so that I can have
>programs run in the background (ie: firewall antivirus
messenger) without
>crashing my pc?
>any support is apreciated.
>
>
>.
>

[glee]

Hey Gary,
I buy new RAM almost exclusively from Crucial, but for older machines with 72-pin
SIMMs, I have had very good luck with RAM from Computer Surplus Outlet in Nevada.
http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/showproduct.asp?c=6

I scarf it up when they have a sale or a "free shipping weekend"....you may live
close enough to take a trek to their outlet store, outside Vegas.

Example: 16MB EDO 72pin SIMM - $2.49
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> 1. http://my-etrust.com/microsoft
> 2. The Pentium.
>
> As for running Windows 98 SE on "about 16 MB" of RAM...
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> "About 16 MB"? What, some of it is devoted to video? Amount of RAM isn't a
> rough number. In any case, IIRC, "minimum system requirements" for Win98SE
> is 32MB (for the system--if video is stealing some, you need more.) In
> reality, you'd need 64 MB (even if video was stealing a bit) to keep any
> self-respecting SE system alive.
>
> Unfortunately, RAM for those old dinosaurs is a *lot* more expensive than
> for newer machines. I hoard the stuff.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP for Win9x
>
> "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Curt, I have no intention of using that crap either, understanding
> > how ram works, it would make no sence to try and tamper with it like those
> > programs.
> > I asked because at startup i was getting an error (i/o subsystem error)
> and
> > in the same error there was mention of windows could be low on memory
> after
> > that my comp would simply turn off and I could only boot in SafeMode.
> >
> > 1)to avoid a new string since your in a pradicament similar to mine ill
> ask
> > these two questions.
> > are there any Anti-virus that wont affect much on this pc. NAV is horrid
> > for resourses i know but how are the others going to react on my system?
> >
> > 2)and I had a 1.7ghz Celeron, now at 100$ I can get either a used 1.6
> > Pentium or another 1.7 Celeron How should I spend my money?
> >
> > again thanks for your time.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Curt Christianson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi,
> > > Sorry to hear about your P4-bummer. I'm currently running about the
> same
> > as
> > > you, with 36MB of RAM. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a DOS
> > > program to do what you want while in Windows, and as you know DOS itself
> > > doesn't need that much RAM.
> > > With only 16MB of memory, you'll have a huge swap file (as do I right
> > now),
> > > but the only way to get around that is to add more RAM. Oh, *please*
> stay
> > > away from so-called memory managers, RAM boosters, RAM defragmenters,
> etc.
> > > They are ALL junk, snake-oil,smoke and mirrors. CRAP! They will cause
> > far
> > > more problems than they will ever solve.
> > > --
> > > Curt
> > >
> > > And NOT the MVP Curt Christianson (I wish!)
> > > W98 Support & Discussion:
> > > http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
> > > Windows How-tos and and Freeware:
> > > http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/
> > > Windows Help & Discussion:
> > > http://forum.aumha.org/
> > >
> > > "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I setup windows 98se on my pc it has a pentium100mhz with about 16mb
> > > ram.
> > > > (I crashed my P4 last week)
> >
> >
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

Good lead! No, I live an hour and a half north of Reno, so LV isn't a
daytrip, but I'll definitely look them up. I've got a couple of PCChips P55
boards I want to max out.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Gary,
> I buy new RAM almost exclusively from Crucial, but for older machines with
72-pin
> SIMMs, I have had very good luck with RAM from Computer Surplus Outlet in
Nevada.
> http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/showproduct.asp?c=6
>
> I scarf it up when they have a sale or a "free shipping weekend"....you
may live
> close enough to take a trek to their outlet store, outside Vegas.
>
> Example: 16MB EDO 72pin SIMM - $2.49
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > 1. http://my-etrust.com/microsoft
> > 2. The Pentium.
> >
> > As for running Windows 98 SE on "about 16 MB" of RAM...
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > "About 16 MB"? What, some of it is devoted to video? Amount of RAM isn't
a
> > rough number. In any case, IIRC, "minimum system requirements" for
Win98SE
> > is 32MB (for the system--if video is stealing some, you need more.) In
> > reality, you'd need 64 MB (even if video was stealing a bit) to keep any
> > self-respecting SE system alive.
> >
> > Unfortunately, RAM for those old dinosaurs is a *lot* more expensive
than
> > for newer machines. I hoard the stuff.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP for Win9x
> >
> > "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks Curt, I have no intention of using that crap either,
understanding
> > > how ram works, it would make no sence to try and tamper with it like
those
> > > programs.
> > > I asked because at startup i was getting an error (i/o subsystem
error)
> > and
> > > in the same error there was mention of windows could be low on memory
> > after
> > > that my comp would simply turn off and I could only boot in SafeMode.
> > >
> > > 1)to avoid a new string since your in a pradicament similar to mine
ill
> > ask
> > > these two questions.
> > > are there any Anti-virus that wont affect much on this pc. NAV is
horrid
> > > for resourses i know but how are the others going to react on my
system?
> > >
> > > 2)and I had a 1.7ghz Celeron, now at 100$ I can get either a used 1.6
> > > Pentium or another 1.7 Celeron How should I spend my money?
> > >
> > > again thanks for your time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Curt Christianson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Sorry to hear about your P4-bummer. I'm currently running about the
> > same
> > > as
> > > > you, with 36MB of RAM. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a
DOS
> > > > program to do what you want while in Windows, and as you know DOS
itself
> > > > doesn't need that much RAM.
> > > > With only 16MB of memory, you'll have a huge swap file (as do I
right
> > > now),
> > > > but the only way to get around that is to add more RAM. Oh,
*please*
> > stay
> > > > away from so-called memory managers, RAM boosters, RAM
defragmenters,
> > etc.
> > > > They are ALL junk, snake-oil,smoke and mirrors. CRAP! They will
cause
> > > far
> > > > more problems than they will ever solve.
> > > > --
> > > > Curt
> > > >
> > > > And NOT the MVP Curt Christianson (I wish!)
> > > > W98 Support & Discussion:
> > > > http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
> > > > Windows How-tos and and Freeware:
> > > > http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/
> > > > Windows Help & Discussion:
> > > > http://forum.aumha.org/
> > > >
> > > > "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I setup windows 98se on my pc it has a pentium100mhz with about
16mb
> > > > ram.
> > > > > (I crashed my P4 last week)
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Curt Christianson]

Hi Glen,
Pick me up a pair of 32MB non-EDO SIMM's, and I'll pay you for it. I wnat
to get up to 64MB! <vbg>
--
Curt--and NOT the MVP Curt Christianson (I wish!)
W98 Support & Discussion:
http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
Windows How-tos and and Freeware:
http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/
Windows Help & Discussion:
http://forum.aumha.org/

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Gary,
> I buy new RAM almost exclusively from Crucial, but for older machines with
72-pin
> SIMMs, I have had very good luck with RAM from Computer Surplus Outlet in
Nevada.
> http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/showproduct.asp?c=6
>
> I scarf it up when they have a sale or a "free shipping weekend"....you
may live
> close enough to take a trek to their outlet store, outside Vegas.
>
> Example: 16MB EDO 72pin SIMM - $2.49
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > 1. http://my-etrust.com/microsoft
> > 2. The Pentium.
> >
> > As for running Windows 98 SE on "about 16 MB" of RAM...
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > "About 16 MB"? What, some of it is devoted to video? Amount of RAM isn't
a
> > rough number. In any case, IIRC, "minimum system requirements" for
Win98SE
> > is 32MB (for the system--if video is stealing some, you need more.) In
> > reality, you'd need 64 MB (even if video was stealing a bit) to keep any
> > self-respecting SE system alive.
> >
> > Unfortunately, RAM for those old dinosaurs is a *lot* more expensive
than
> > for newer machines. I hoard the stuff.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP for Win9x
> >
> > "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks Curt, I have no intention of using that crap either,
understanding
> > > how ram works, it would make no sence to try and tamper with it like
those
> > > programs.
> > > I asked because at startup i was getting an error (i/o subsystem
error)
> > and
> > > in the same error there was mention of windows could be low on memory
> > after
> > > that my comp would simply turn off and I could only boot in SafeMode.
> > >
> > > 1)to avoid a new string since your in a pradicament similar to mine
ill
> > ask
> > > these two questions.
> > > are there any Anti-virus that wont affect much on this pc. NAV is
horrid
> > > for resourses i know but how are the others going to react on my
system?
> > >
> > > 2)and I had a 1.7ghz Celeron, now at 100$ I can get either a used 1.6
> > > Pentium or another 1.7 Celeron How should I spend my money?
> > >
> > > again thanks for your time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Curt Christianson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Sorry to hear about your P4-bummer. I'm currently running about the
> > same
> > > as
> > > > you, with 36MB of RAM. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a
DOS
> > > > program to do what you want while in Windows, and as you know DOS
itself
> > > > doesn't need that much RAM.
> > > > With only 16MB of memory, you'll have a huge swap file (as do I
right
> > > now),
> > > > but the only way to get around that is to add more RAM. Oh,
*please*
> > stay
> > > > away from so-called memory managers, RAM boosters, RAM
defragmenters,
> > etc.
> > > > They are ALL junk, snake-oil,smoke and mirrors. CRAP! They will
cause
> > > far
> > > > more problems than they will ever solve.
> > > > --
> > > > Curt
> > > >
> > > > And NOT the MVP Curt Christianson (I wish!)
> > > > W98 Support & Discussion:
> > > > http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
> > > > Windows How-tos and and Freeware:
> > > > http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/
> > > > Windows Help & Discussion:
> > > > http://forum.aumha.org/
> > > >
> > > > "GoodSamaritan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I setup windows 98se on my pc it has a pentium100mhz with about
16mb
> > > > ram.
> > > > > (I crashed my P4 last week)
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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