Unable to Install Driver

[JohnN]

I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME
pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file
from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application
Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the
installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The
result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and
how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS
adapter.

Thanks J.

[Mike M]

John,

Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you
run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say
the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT
have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and
then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device
Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers
| Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click
Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the
driver inf file and continue until finished.

If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying
to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in
any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps
enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is
that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so
unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite
possibly wasting your time.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>
> Thanks J.

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates folders
under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder named DRIVERS, but
when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this folder it does not recognise
what is there!;presumably the installation process when it stops does not
get to the installation of the appropriate driver.

Thanks John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you
> run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in
> say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to
> NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click
> and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the
> Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties |
> Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then
> click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing
> the driver inf file and continue until finished.
>
> If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are
> trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't
> find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details
> helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to
> intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for
> Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
> you are quite possibly wasting your time.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
>> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
>> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
>> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
>> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
>> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
>> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
>> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>
>> Thanks J.
>

[Mike M]

> when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this
> folder it does not recognise what is there!;

Can you please confirm that the folder contains a file with an INF
extension? If not that is why the installation cannot proceed.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates
> folders under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder
> named DRIVERS, but when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this
> folder it does not recognise what is there!;presumably the
> installation process when it stops does not get to the installation
> of the appropriate driver.

[JohnN]

Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;

I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file
perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not
loaded!

John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
>> when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this
>> folder it does not recognise what is there!;
>
> Can you please confirm that the folder contains a file with an INF
> extension? If not that is why the installation cannot proceed.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates
>> folders under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder
>> named DRIVERS, but when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this
>> folder it does not recognise what is there!;presumably the
>> installation process when it stops does not get to the installation
>> of the appropriate driver.
>

[Mike M]

You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder
containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file.
Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able
to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the "wizard"
allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf
file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear out
any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again.

Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009?
FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink site
and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a
Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb wi-fi
card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver
_without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device when
the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the
"full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed
aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis folder
and gave no message about being unable to locate the file.

Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and model
of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink 2500
chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable help
and might help establish why you are having problems.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;
>
> I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the
> file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file
> has not loaded!

[JohnN]

Thanks for your continued interest Mike.

Here is the whole story:

I have a USB/WIRELESS adapter bought for me, but unfortunately for use on
Vista/WinXP systems.The device in question is the Edimax EW7318USG Wireless
LAN Adapter 4dBi Antenna 802.11b.g.Mbps.

I contacted Edimax for details of a Driver that would enable me to use their
adapter on my WinME PC.They directed me to a download point on their
site.This I downloaded as a zip file (I also downloaded a Win98 zip file to
compare, and they look the same, with the same unzipped contents - I have
tried this also in an attempt to get the driver loaded but again without
success).

I downloaded the zip to a memory stick on my other XP pc (I have no internet
connection on my ME pc; this is why I need the adapter working).

The memory stick was plugged into my ME pc from where I unzipped it (using
WinZip) to a RaLink.exe file.When this launched an Installsheild window
comes up with the usual install progress band across it; I can see various
named files being installed as the band moves across the screen, until no
more file names appear , with the band fully across the screen with the word
'Installing' only; but at this point the installation stops.To get me out of
this position I use Wndows Task Manager to end a couple of RaLink tasks
which are not responding.But when I look for any installed files I can find
C:/Program Files/Ralink folder with sub folders Common and Drivers (where I
find the driver previously mentioned).In Start>Programs there is also a
Ralink Utility program, which does nothing when run.( both with the adapter
fitted and without).

Each time I have tried starting from scratch again, I have 'searched' for
Ralink files/folders and deleted them. - but with no avail, always stopping
at same point.

Because the installation doesnt complete I can only point to the only 'inf'
file installed as mentioned via Dev.Man./Unknown Devices/Update Driver

You mention with yours you get 'aegise2.dll file installed in an 'Aegis'
folder, but I dont get this folder or file; perhaps this is where my
installation stops i.e prior to 'aegise2.dll' being installed.

Long winded I know but I remain stuck!

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder
> containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file.
> Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able
> to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the
> "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing
> an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to
> clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try
> again.
>
> Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009?
> FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink
> site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem
> on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a
> usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the
> driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi
> device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation
> (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the
> driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless
> LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the
> file.
>
> Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and
> model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the
> Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of
> considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;
>>
>> I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the
>> file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file
>> has not loaded!
>

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

Further Info:

Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created 3 Sept.
2007 ; size 31.2MB

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder
> containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file.
> Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able
> to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the
> "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing
> an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to
> clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try
> again.
>
> Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009?
> FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink
> site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem
> on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a
> usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the
> driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi
> device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation
> (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the
> driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless
> LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the
> file.
>
> Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and
> model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the
> Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of
> considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;
>>
>> I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the
>> file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file
>> has not loaded!
>

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Further Info:
>
> Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created
> 3 Sept. 2007 ; size 31.2MB

John,

That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and installed.

> Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created

I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the
driver.

The file I downloaded from the RALink site
(http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Windows.html) was, for
98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15:
IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe
Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes)
Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009).

I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card
available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-(

I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated
driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if you
have better luck with that one.
--
Mike Maltby

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page( see
attachment) and install, do you think this might work?

Regards John




"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder
> containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file.
> Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able
> to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the
> "wizard"
> allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf
> file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear
> out
> any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again.
>
> Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009?
> FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink
> site
> and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a
> Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb
> wi-fi
> card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver
> _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device
> when
> the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the
> "full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed
> aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis
> folder
> and gave no message about being unable to locate the file.
>
> Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and
> model
> of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink
> 2500
> chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable
> help
> and might help establish why you are having problems.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;
>>
>> I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the
>> file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file
>> has not loaded!
>

[Mike M]

John,

I take it you didn't read my last post before you made your post. :-)

HOWEVER having read your post timed at 19:02 BST I see the Edimax wi-fi card
appears to perhaps use an older 7* RALink chipset. It "might" work and
there is I feel little to be lost by trying.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page(
> see attachment) and install, do you think this might work?

[Mike M]

Update:

I have now downloaded the driver you were using from the Edimax UK site.
Zip file: EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip
Containing: Ralink RT7x_070903.exe

I next compared the files installed using RT7x_070903.exe with those I
installed previously. I use SFC from Win98 for this. A number of the files
contained in RT7x_070903.exe are older versions than those I installed
previously including some of the Aegis files, the RALink Utility (RaUI.exe)
and importantly, the actual wi-fi driver file itself rt24u98.sys which is
v2.01.01.0000 dated 8 November 2006 whereas the version in the file I
downloaded from the RALink site is v2.01.01.0015 dated 12 Feb 2009.

More importantly however is that the driver from the Edimax site also
includes the driver files rt73u98.sys and rt73.bin and given that the name
of your card is EW7318USG this suggest that the chipset used in your wi-fi
adapter is 73* series rather than 25* so if the updated driver from the
RALink site still doesn't work try again installing using the earlier
RT7x_070903.exe and going the Dev Manager route with the card inserted and
point it at the file rt73.inf in C:\Program Files\RALINK\RT7x Wireless LAN
Card\Driver folder rather than rt25u98.sys

What I feel is a problem is that the install seems not to complete but
rather stalls and that you are using the Task Manager to terminate the
installation. Not a good sign and not something I have been able to
replicate. What exactly happens, such as error message seen, when you
insert the adapter. What happens if you leave the installation "running"
and go and make yourself a coffee? Does it eventually complete?
--
Mike Maltby



Mike M > wrote:

>
> That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and
> installed.
>> Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created
>
> I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of
> the driver.
>
> The file I downloaded from the RALink site
> (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Windows.html) was, for
> 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15:
> IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe
> Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes)
> Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009).
>
> I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi
> card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-(
>
> I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated
> driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see
> if you have better luck with that one.

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

I've downloaded and run the latest file from RaLink website, but get the
same result - it will not complete the install process from the'exe'
file.???

How long does it take to install yours?

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Further Info:
>>
>> Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created
>> 3 Sept. 2007 ; size 31.2MB
>
> John,
>
> That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and
> installed.
>
>> Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created
>
> I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the
> driver.
>
> The file I downloaded from the RALink site
> (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Windows.html) was, for
> 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15:
> IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe
> Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes)
> Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009).
>
> I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card
> available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-(
>
> I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated
> driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if
> you have better luck with that one.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
>

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I've downloaded and run the latest file from RaLink website, but get
> the same result - it will not complete the install process from
> the'exe' file.???
>
> How long does it take to install yours?

Ralink RT7x_070903.exe - 15 secs from clicking "Install" at the screen
following that asking you to choose between optimizing for wi-fi mode or
performance to the message saying "Wizard Complete".

It appears that you might have an application installed that is preventing
the installation completing. Such software includes any junk from Symantec
and AV/Security applications that prevent the registry from being updated.
If so either uninstall the app or at the very least disable it for the
duration of the installation.
--
Mike Maltby

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

I dont get any 73* files loaded!

I have tried leaving the installation running for 30mins. without result!

At present I have the Ralink site version on my pc; I will try the Edimax
version again and before hand disable or remove my old Symantec Systemworks
protection.

If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to send me
the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me to insert on my
pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to the registry?

I will keep you informed of my progress.

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Update:
>
> I have now downloaded the driver you were using from the Edimax UK site.
> Zip file: EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip
> Containing: Ralink RT7x_070903.exe
>
> I next compared the files installed using RT7x_070903.exe with those I
> installed previously. I use SFC from Win98 for this. A number of the
> files contained in RT7x_070903.exe are older versions than those I
> installed previously including some of the Aegis files, the RALink
> Utility (RaUI.exe) and importantly, the actual wi-fi driver file itself
> rt24u98.sys which is v2.01.01.0000 dated 8 November 2006 whereas the
> version in the file I downloaded from the RALink site is v2.01.01.0015
> dated 12 Feb 2009.
>
> More importantly however is that the driver from the Edimax site also
> includes the driver files rt73u98.sys and rt73.bin and given that the name
> of your card is EW7318USG this suggest that the chipset used in your wi-fi
> adapter is 73* series rather than 25* so if the updated driver from the
> RALink site still doesn't work try again installing using the earlier
> RT7x_070903.exe and going the Dev Manager route with the card inserted and
> point it at the file rt73.inf in C:\Program Files\RALINK\RT7x Wireless LAN
> Card\Driver folder rather than rt25u98.sys
>
> What I feel is a problem is that the install seems not to complete but
> rather stalls and that you are using the Task Manager to terminate the
> installation. Not a good sign and not something I have been able to
> replicate. What exactly happens, such as error message seen, when you
> insert the adapter. What happens if you leave the installation "running"
> and go and make yourself a coffee? Does it eventually complete?
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> Mike M > wrote:
>
>>
>> That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and
>> installed.
>>> Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created
>>
>> I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of
>> the driver.
>>
>> The file I downloaded from the RALink site
>> (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Windows.html) was, for
>> 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15:
>> IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe
>> Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes)
>> Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009).
>>
>> I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi
>> card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-(
>>
>> I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated
>> driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see
>> if you have better luck with that one.
>

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

Did you see my previous post of today?

I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the Edimax
driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a loss! - I
obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install without problems. I
must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?. What do you think of
trying your files?

Regards John


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> I take it you didn't read my last post before you made your post. :-)
>
> HOWEVER having read your post timed at 19:02 BST I see the Edimax wi-fi
> card appears to perhaps use an older 7* RALink chipset. It "might" work
> and there is I feel little to be lost by trying.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page(
>> see attachment) and install, do you think this might work?
>

[Mike M]

> Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old
> Symantec Systemworks protection

John,

No wonder you're having problems. I'm sorry but I won't be able to help
until you have removed all traces of Symantec software from your system,
none of which has ever been compatible with Win Me and has been the cause of
more posts to the Win Me NGs since Win Me was released than any other
software.

You might want to start by having a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. Out
of curiosity how many files does this contain and does it contain any zero
byte files that have a name that matches the template oem*.inf?

> If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to
> send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me
> to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to
> the registry?

Not a problem but not until you confirm all traces of Symantec's
systemnotworks software has been removed from your system.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I dont get any 73* files loaded!
>
> I have tried leaving the installation running for 30mins. without
> result!
> At present I have the Ralink site version on my pc; I will try the
> Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old
> Symantec Systemworks protection.
>
> If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to
> send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me
> to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to
> the registry?
> I will keep you informed of my progress.

[Mike M]

John,

Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this contain
and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that match the
template oem*.inf?

> What do you think of trying your files?

I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've got
rid of SystemNotWork.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Did you see my previous post of today?
>
> I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the
> Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a
> loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install
> without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?.
> What do you think of trying your files?

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

C:\Windows\Inf folder:

575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.

No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.

OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL

Does this indicate something?

I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'

Regards John

PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this
> contain and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that
> match the template oem*.inf?
>
>> What do you think of trying your files?
>
> I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've
> got rid of SystemNotWork.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Did you see my previous post of today?
>>
>> I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the
>> Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a
>> loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install
>> without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?.
>> What do you think of trying your files?
>

[Mike M]

John,

Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of
zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.

This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
"Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
fell out of extended support in June 2006.

[Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
files"). Does this reveal anything?

> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again

No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
be at the keyboard tonight.
--
Mike Maltby




JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>
> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>
> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>
> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>
> Does this indicate something?
>
> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>
> Regards John
>
> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John

[Noel Paton[_3_]]

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=301540 (which is still available) is also
relevant here, although there the cause is slightly different, the result is
the same, and the removal procedure is identical.
I doubt very much that MS will offer the hotfix any more - as they aren't
delivered in the same way as they were at the time that ME was supported -
and anyhow, the best solution is to remove all traces of Symantec software
from any ME system (as I know you've already said, Mike).


--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
> preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
> installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>
> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>
> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>
> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
> be at the keyboard tonight.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>
>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>
>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>
>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>
>> Does this indicate something?
>>
>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>
>> Regards John
>>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>

[JohnN]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
> preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
> installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>
> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>
> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system

I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked
'Hide protected---------' also.
Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?

The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!

I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.


> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>
> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
> be at the keyboard tonight.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>
>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>
>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>
>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>
>> Does this indicate something?
>>
>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>
>> Regards John
>>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>

[Noel Paton[_3_]]

Oh dear! - what is this obsession that people have with registry cleaners?
Which one did you run? does it store a backup you can use to recover the
original position? (If so, the please use it!)

Registry cleaners should only be used by those who know enough about the
registry that they don't need one :)

More often than not, when using registry cleaners, the system ends up in a
worse state than previously, due to either faults in the cleaners detection
process, or faults in its logic.
either way, using one as a problem-solving tool is tantamount to throwing
out the baby with the bathwater - and then throwing the bath away as well.

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> John,
>>
>> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
>> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
>> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory
>> structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing
>> the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>>
>> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
>> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
>> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
>> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
>> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>>
>> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
>> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
>> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
>> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
>
> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked
> 'Hide protected---------' also.
> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>
> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>
> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>
>
>> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>>
>>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>>
>> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time
>> I'll be at the keyboard tonight.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnN > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>>
>>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>>
>>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>>
>>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>>
>>> Does this indicate something?
>>>
>>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>>
>>> Regards John
>>>
>>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.

John,

Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All
registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be
consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer.

I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing.
Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now
be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems
such as Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also
> checked 'Hide protected---------' also.
> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>
> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>
> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible
this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and
programs; would this be OK?

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
>> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>
> John,
>
> Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All
> registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be
> consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer.
>
> I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing.
> Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd
> now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x
> systems such as Win Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also
>> checked 'Hide protected---------' also.
>> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>>
>> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>>
>> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it
> possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain
> existing files and programs; would this be OK?

John,

Possibly but it depends on how deep seated the problem is.

Note however that if you do decide to re-install Win Me over itself there
are two essential actions you must take first. The first being to uninstall
IE6 if installed otherwise IE and many other associated files will end up as
incompatible versions and cause problems not only with IE but other
components of the operating system that use those files. Secondly, if you
have WMP 9 installed, it is essential that you either delete or rename the
file wmploc.dll to say wmploc.old before carrying out the re-install.

Noel has some notes
(http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/ME_Gen/reinstall_ME_over_itself.htm) on
re-installing Win Me that you might want to read before you start.
--
Mike Maltby

[Mart]

Mike wrote:-

> ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue
> to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista
> so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
> **you are quite possibly wasting your time.**

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but
although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of
the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it
"May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced"

Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of
installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New
Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation'

My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you
MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work
with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I
found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware'
wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.

Mart


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you
> run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in
> say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to
> NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click
> and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the
> Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties |
> Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then
> click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing
> the driver inf file and continue until finished.
>
> If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are
> trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't
> find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details
> helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to
> intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for
> Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
> you are quite possibly wasting your time.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
>> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
>> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
>> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
>> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
>> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
>> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
>> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>
>> Thanks J.
>

[JohnN]

Thanks for your comments Mark,

I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it
depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The
reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my
adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get
message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download
suitable driver.

John

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mike wrote:-
>
>> ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue
>> to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista
>> so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
>> **you are quite possibly wasting your time.**
>
> Hi Mike & John,
>
> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but
> although :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of
> the User Manual :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the
> it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced"
>
> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of
> installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New
> Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation'
>
> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you
> MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work
> with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop)
> I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware'
> wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> John,
>>
>> Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when
>> you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder
>> in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps
>> to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right
>> click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in
>> the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then
>> Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the
>> driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the
>> folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished.
>>
>> If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are
>> trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I
>> can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such
>> details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues
>> to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for
>> Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win
>> Me you are quite possibly wasting your time.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnN > wrote:
>>
>>> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
>>> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
>>> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
>>> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
>>> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
>>> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
>>> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
>>> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>>
>>> Thanks J.
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could
at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the
importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless
he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it
took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win
Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an
EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart > wrote:

> Hi Mike & John,
>
> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
> but although :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
> 5 of the User Manual :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
> reduced"
> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
> 'Software Installation'
> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.

[Mike M]

John,

Nevertheless you should still be able to install the driver regardless of
whether it will work with the adapter on Win Me. That is something you have
apparently been unable to do up until now on your Win Me system. Until you
can get the driver to install (and I have demonstrated to my satisfaction
that it will install on a system running Win Me, but cannot determine
whether it works or not as I don't have an EW-7318Ug adapter with which to
test), there is no point in inserting the usb adapter.

I'm tempted to buy an Edimax EW-7318Ug and see it I can get it to work on a
Win Me box as I see they are available at CCL Computers for £8.12 including
p+p. I'll have to think about it though as my Netgear DG834PN router seems
to have died overnight and I've had to drop back to my ISP supplied TG585v7
which I find a horrible bit of kit.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Mark,
>
> I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it
> depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available);
> The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is
> because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual
> instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would
> expect!;hence need to download suitable driver.

[JohnN]

Hi Mike,

Dont buy an adapter to prove your installation is OK; I'm sure it is and
that if I can get the Driver installed I think my adapter will be OK.
I'm having second thoughts about the merits of re-installing WinME!

Regards John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Mart,
>
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
> install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
> I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
> correct.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> Mart > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike & John,
>>
>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>> but although :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>> reduced"
>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>> 'Software Installation'
>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>

[Mart]

Mike wrote :-

> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
> even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
> hangs and never completes.

> .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
> the drivers before inserting the device...

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the
device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE
running the driver (and software) installation utility.

FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB
2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more
particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled
before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out
any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's
(hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other
USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using
the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally)
reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE

<snip>
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows
NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.

To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by
your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for
the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X
authentication settings.
</snip>

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due
to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and
USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech
Support.

Mart


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Mart,
>
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
> install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
> I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
> correct.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> Mart > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike & John,
>>
>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>> but although :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>> reduced"
>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>> 'Software Installation'
>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>

[Mike M]

Mart,

Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on
his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel
that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I
think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in
behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0
ports.

I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. <g> If nothing
else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
night.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart > wrote:

> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
> require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
> immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
> utility.
> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
> Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
> port and
> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>
> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
> to find out any details.
>
> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
> stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
> laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
> fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
> (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
> displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
> process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
> didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
> for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.
>
> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>
> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>
> <snip>
> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
> Windows NT 4.0?
>
> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
> 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
> supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
> versions of Windows.
> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
> 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
> provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
> the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
> 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
> </snip>
>
> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
> be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
> WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
> try Ralink Tech Support.

[JohnN]

A couple of points Mark;

At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is 1.1,
but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will be OK

John


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mike wrote :-
>
>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
>> even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
>> hangs and never completes.
>
>> .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
>> the drivers before inserting the device...
>
> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
> the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE
> running the driver (and software) installation utility.
>
> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
> USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>
> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
> find out any details.
>
> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
> (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
> only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
> different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
> always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's
> (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with
> other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up
> using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally)
> reliable.
>
> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>
> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>
> <snip>
> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
> Windows NT 4.0?
>
> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or
> Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
> wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.
>
> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or
> Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by
> your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions
> for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X
> authentication settings.
> </snip>
>
> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
> due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
> and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
> Tech Support.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mart,
>>
>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
>> to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
>> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
>> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
>> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
>> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
>> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop
>> since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation
>> was correct.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>> Mart > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike & John,
>>>
>>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>>> but although :-
>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>>> reduced"
>>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>>> 'Software Installation'
>>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Mike/John

> .. I think the most important point from your post
> is the possible differences in behaviour between
> systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
site :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=
does not.

I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is not
recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
(apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.

Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

Mart


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Mart,
>
> Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
> on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
> feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
> However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
> differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>
> Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0
> ports.
>
> I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. <g> If nothing
> else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
> I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
> night.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> Mart > wrote:
>
>> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
>> require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
>> immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
>> utility.
>> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
>> Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
>> port and
>> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>>
>> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
>> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
>> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
>> to find out any details.
>>
>> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
>> stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
>> laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
>> fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
>> (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
>> displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
>> process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
>> didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
>> for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.
>>
>> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>>
>> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
>> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>>
>> <snip>
>> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
>> Windows NT 4.0?
>>
>> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
>> supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
>> versions of Windows.
>> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
>> provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
>> the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
>> 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
>> </snip>
>>
>> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
>> be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
>> WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
>> try Ralink Tech Support.
>

[Mart]

Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to
run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in?

Error reports? Completion??

If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in?

Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc.

Mart



"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
>A couple of points Mark;
>
> At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
> driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is
> 1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will
> be OK
>
> John
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mike wrote :-
>>
>>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
>>> even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
>>> hangs and never completes.
>>
>>> .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
>>> the drivers before inserting the device...
>>
>> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
>> the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately
>> BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility.
>>
>> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
>> USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
>> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>>
>> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
>> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
>> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
>> find out any details.
>>
>> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
>> (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
>> only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
>> different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
>> always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to
>> John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally
>> with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I
>> ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not
>> totally) reliable.
>>
>> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>>
>> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
>> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>>
>> <snip>
>> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
>> Windows NT 4.0?
>>
>> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98,
>> or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
>> wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.
>>
>> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98,
>> or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided
>> by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the
>> instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and
>> 802.1X authentication settings.
>> </snip>
>>
>> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
>> due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
>> and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
>> Tech Support.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Mike M" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Mart,
>>>
>>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
>>> to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
>>> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware
>>> of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device,
>>> but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere.
>>> In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install
>>> the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop
>>> since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation
>>> was correct.
>>> --
>>> Mike Maltby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mart > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike & John,
>>>>
>>>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>>>> but although :-
>>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>>>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>>>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>>>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>>>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>>>> reduced"
>>>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>>>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>>>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>>>> 'Software Installation'
>>>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>>>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>>>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>>>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>>>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[JohnN]

Hi Mike

These are the folders/files that get installed; I'd be interested to know
from you which files I dont install?(ie those omitted from the complete
installation.

C:\Program Files\Ralink>Common>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI
C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
LANCard>Driver>Colnstaller.dll;difxapi.dll;Ralnst;Ralnst64;RalOx6 4;rt25u98;tr25u98.sys;setacl
C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
LANCard>Utility>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI

Start>Programs>Ralink Wireless>Ralink Utility

Clicking this Ralink Utilty only puts an Icon in the system tray which does
nothing.

John

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Mart,
>
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
> install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
> I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
> correct.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> Mart > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike & John,
>>
>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>> but although :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>> reduced"
>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>> 'Software Installation'
>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>

[JohnN]

Hi Mart,

With or without stick ;all combinations tried - same result,

As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' and attempts to
update driver = not found, indicating driver installation has not completed,
as we know!

John

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to
> run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in?
>
> Error reports? Completion??
>
> If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in?
>
> Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "JohnN" > wrote in message
> . uk...
>>A couple of points Mark;
>>
>> At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
>> driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is
>> 1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will
>> be OK
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Mike wrote :-
>>>
>>>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
>>>> even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
>>>> hangs and never completes.
>>>
>>>> .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
>>>> the drivers before inserting the device...
>>>
>>> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
>>> the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately
>>> BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility.
>>>
>>> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
>>> USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
>>> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
>>> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
>>> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
>>> find out any details.
>>>
>>> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
>>> (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
>>> only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
>>> different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
>>> always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to
>>> John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally
>>> with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I
>>> ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but
>>> not totally) reliable.
>>>
>>> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>>>
>>> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
>>> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
>>> Windows NT 4.0?
>>>
>>> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98,
>>> or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply
>>> all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98,
>>> or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided
>>> by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the
>>> instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and
>>> 802.1X authentication settings.
>>> </snip>
>>>
>>> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
>>> due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
>>> and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
>>> Tech Support.
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike M" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Mart,
>>>>
>>>> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
>>>> to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If
>>>> he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am
>>>> aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the
>>>> device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going
>>>> nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to
>>>> install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I
>>>> had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver
>>>> installation was correct.
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Maltby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mart > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike & John,
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>>>>> but although :-
>>>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
>>>>> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>>>>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>>>>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Adapter_series-UserManual-0710.pdf
>>>>> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>>>>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>>>>> reduced"
>>>>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>>>>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>>>>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>>>>> 'Software Installation'
>>>>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>>>>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>>>>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>>>>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>>>>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[JohnN]

Hi Mark,

I've tried Edimax Tech Support and like Mike they have no problems with ME
Driver installation.

John
"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mike/John
>
>> .. I think the most important point from your post
>> is the possible differences in behaviour between
>> systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>
> Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
> site :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
> http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=
> does not.
>
> I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is
> not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
> wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
> (apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.
>
> Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mart,
>>
>> Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
>> on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
>> feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
>> However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
>> differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>>
>> Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB
>> 1.0 ports.
>>
>> I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. <g> If nothing
>> else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
>> I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
>> night.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>> Mart > wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
>>> require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
>>> immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
>>> utility.
>>> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
>>> Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
>>> port and
>>> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
>>> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
>>> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
>>> to find out any details.
>>>
>>> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
>>> stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
>>> laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
>>> fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
>>> (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
>>> displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
>>> process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
>>> didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
>>> for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.
>>>
>>> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>>>
>>> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
>>> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
>>> Windows NT 4.0?
>>>
>>> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
>>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
>>> supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
>>> versions of Windows.
>>> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
>>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
>>> provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
>>> the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
>>> 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
>>> </snip>
>>>
>>> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
>>> be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
>>> WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
>>> try Ralink Tech Support.
>>
>
>

[JohnN]

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mike/John
>
>> .. I think the most important point from your post
>> is the possible differences in behaviour between
>> systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>
> Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
> site :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
> http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=
> does not.
>
> I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is
> not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
> wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
> (apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.
>
> Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

I've tried Tech Support but like Mike they have no problems installing WinME
driver.

John
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mart,
>>
>> Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
>> on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
>> feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
>> However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
>> differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>>
>> Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB
>> 1.0 ports.
>>
>> I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. <g> If nothing
>> else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
>> I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
>> night.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>> Mart > wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
>>> require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
>>> immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
>>> utility.
>>> FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
>>> Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
>>> port and
>>> more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
>>> concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
>>> pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
>>> to find out any details.
>>>
>>> That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
>>> stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
>>> laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
>>> fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
>>> (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
>>> displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
>>> process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
>>> didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
>>> for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.
>>>
>>> I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
>>>
>>> Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
>>> Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/wifi/wififaq.mspx#E3BAE
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
>>> Windows NT 4.0?
>>>
>>> A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
>>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
>>> supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
>>> versions of Windows.
>>> To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
>>> 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
>>> provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
>>> the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
>>> 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
>>> </snip>
>>>
>>> So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
>>> be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
>>> WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
>>> try Ralink Tech Support.
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

> Error reports? Completion??

Mart,

As far as I am aware this is where we started some days ago. The installer
just "hangs" and John has to Ctrl-Alt-Del out.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart > wrote:

> Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you
> try to run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in?
>
> Error reports? Completion??
>
> If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in?
>
> Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc.

[Mike M]

Mart,

Regardless of which site or version of the driver John uses I feel the whole
exercise is somewhat pointless until he solves the problem as to why the
installer freezes and never completes the installation.

Until such time as he can actually install a driver, correct or incorrect, I
feel there is little to be gained by contacting Edimax.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart > wrote:

> Mike/John
>
>> .. I think the most important point from your post
>> is the possible differences in behaviour between
>> systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
>
> Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The
> UK site :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
> http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=
> does not.
>
> I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file
> is not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to
> enumerate the wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the
> drivers will (apparently) install but the system then halts before
> completion.
> Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

[Mike M]

Mart,

Note that the Edimax UK site includes the Win 98/Me driver version
v1.02.02.0000 for devices using the RT73 series chipset which is missing
from the International Edimax site. It's not as if the two sites make
different claims about the v3.1.3.0 driver used for NT based systems.
Edimax obviously understand that there are still Win 98 and Win Me users in
the UK. <vbg>

From the file rt73.inf
; rt73.inf
;
; This installation script supports Windows 98,Me,2000 & XP for the
; Ralink RT73 series USB Wireless LAN Card.

The driver package also includes Win Me drivers for the devices using the
more recent RALink 2500 chipset.
From the file rt25u98.inf
; rt2500usb.inf
;
; This installation script supports Windows 98,Me,2000 & XP for the
; Ralink RT2500 series USB Wireless LAN Card.

--
Mike Maltby



Mart > wrote:

> Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The
> UK site :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44
> includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
> http://www.edimax.com/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=
> does not.
>
> I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file
> is not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to
> enumerate the wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the
> drivers will (apparently) install but the system then halts before
> completion.
> Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

John,

This looks like your installation was made using the driver from the RALink
site as it doesn't appear to include the 73** chipset drivers which are
included in the Edimax version. I feel these are probably pretty important
given the EW-7318Ug uses the 73** chipset (note the name of the device).

Below I note the differences between your system and mine when installing
using the file Ralink RT7x_070903.exe extracted from the file
EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip which I downloaded
from the UK Edimax site.

> Hi Mike
>
> These are the folders/files that get installed; I'd be interested to
> know from you which files I dont install?(ie those omitted from the
> complete installation.
>
> C:\Program Files\Ralink>Common>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI

plus: acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe, results.txt

Results.txt contains the following text:

message=Driver install was successful.
reboot=1.
code=0.

> C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
> LANCard>Driver>Colnstaller.dll;difxapi.dll;Ralnst;Ralnst64;RalOx6 4;rt25u98;tr25u98.sys;setacl

plus: rt73.bin, rt73.inf, rt73u98.sys

> C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
> LANCard>Utility>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI

Plus
C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless LANCard>Aegis>
containing: acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe

> Start>Programs>Ralink Wireless>Ralink Utility
>
> Clicking this Ralink Utilty only puts an Icon in the system tray
> which does nothing.
--
Mike Maltby

[JohnN]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> JohnN > wrote:
>
> John,
>
> This looks like your installation was made using the driver from the
> RALink site as it doesn't appear to include the 73** chipset drivers which
> are included in the Edimax version. I feel these are probably pretty
> important given the EW-7318Ug uses the 73** chipset (note the name of the
> device).
>

Mike

The files listed are from the ME version from the Edimax site; - it looks
like the files you mention 73** just didnt install!

John
> Below I note the differences between your system and mine when installing
> using the file Ralink RT7x_070903.exe extracted from the file
> EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip which I downloaded
> from the UK Edimax site.
>
>> Hi Mike
>>
>> These are the folders/files that get installed; I'd be interested to
>> know from you which files I dont install?(ie those omitted from the
>> complete installation.
>>
>> C:\Program Files\Ralink>Common>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI
>
> plus: acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe, results.txt
>
> Results.txt contains the following text:
>
> message=Driver install was successful.
> reboot=1.
> code=0.
>
>> C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
>> LANCard>Driver>Colnstaller.dll;difxapi.dll;Ralnst;Ralnst64;RalOx6 4;rt25u98;tr25u98.sys;setacl
>
> plus: rt73.bin, rt73.inf, rt73u98.sys
>
>> C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless
>> LANCard>Utility>RACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI
>
> Plus
> C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless LANCard>Aegis>
> containing: acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe
>
>> Start>Programs>Ralink Wireless>Ralink Utility
>>
>> Clicking this Ralink Utilty only puts an Icon in the system tray
>> which does nothing.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
>

[Mike M]

John,

So no rt73 files, no aegis files and no results.txt file containing the all
important message "Driver install was successful." I simply don't know or
understand why this is happening. 99% of cases where the drive install
fails are a result of the windows\inf file hitting the limits of the FAT
filing system due to containing a large number of zero byte oem*.inf files,
usually the result of having a Symantec "product" installed, but you've
already confirmed that that is not the case.

Given that the installer hangs and doesn't complete am I correct in assuming
that you don't see a popup small rectangular window that says something
along the lines of "Updating hardware information database"? This is the
point at which details of the inf files etc is added to the database so that
the device is recognised each time it is inserted. I'm guessing the "hang"
happens before you get to this stage.
--
Mike Maltby



JohnN > wrote:

> The files listed are from the ME version from the Edimax site; - it
> looks like the files you mention 73** just didnt install!

[Mart]

Mike wrote :-

> As far as I am aware this is where we started some days ago. The
> installer just "hangs" and John has to Ctrl-Alt-Del out.

Sorry guys, looks like I may have missed some of the earlier postings.

John wrote :-

> As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' ....

Tried deleting it in Safe Mode and start over?

(Sorry if you've already done that)

Mart

<snipped>

[JohnN]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> John,
>
> So no rt73 files, no aegis files and no results.txt file containing the
> all important message "Driver install was successful." I simply don't
> know or understand why this is happening. 99% of cases where the drive
> install fails are a result of the windows\inf file hitting the limits of
> the FAT filing system due to containing a large number of zero byte
> oem*.inf files, usually the result of having a Symantec "product"
> installed, but you've already confirmed that that is not the case.
>
> Given that the installer hangs and doesn't complete am I correct in
> assuming that you don't see a popup small rectangular window that says
> something along the lines of "Updating hardware information database"?
Hi Mike,

I do get this message along with its 'updating bar' across the screen! - and
this completes!

John

This is the
> point at which details of the inf files etc is added to the database so
> that the device is recognised each time it is inserted. I'm guessing the
> "hang" happens before you get to this stage.
> --
> Mike Maltby
>
>
>
> JohnN > wrote:
>
>> The files listed are from the ME version from the Edimax site; - it
>> looks like the files you mention 73** just didnt install!
>

[JohnN]

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mike wrote :-
>
>> As far as I am aware this is where we started some days ago. The
>> installer just "hangs" and John has to Ctrl-Alt-Del out.
>
> Sorry guys, looks like I may have missed some of the earlier postings.
>
> John wrote :-
>
>> As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' ....
>
> Tried deleting it in Safe Mode and start over?

Hi Mark,
Delete what in Safe Mode?
If I do whatever you are suggesting how do I get system back to Normal; I've
never (fortunately) had to boot to SafeMode!
John
>
> (Sorry if you've already done that)
>
> Mart
>
> <snipped>
>

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

>> Given that the installer hangs and doesn't complete am I correct in
>> assuming that you don't see a popup small rectangular window that
>> says something along the lines of "Updating hardware information
>> database"?
> Hi Mike,
>
> I do get this message along with its 'updating bar' across the
> screen! - and this completes!

That's interesting. I wonder why the installer then hangs as it should have
done its job by then although from your posts it appears it doesn't install
the rt73 driver.
--
Mike Maltby

[JohnN]

"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
>
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
>> John,
>>
>> So no rt73 files, no aegis files and no results.txt file containing the
>> all important message "Driver install was successful." I simply don't
>> know or understand why this is happening. 99% of cases where the drive
>> install fails are a result of the windows\inf file hitting the limits of
>> the FAT filing system due to containing a large number of zero byte
>> oem*.inf files, usually the result of having a Symantec "product"
>> installed, but you've already confirmed that that is not the case.
>>
>> Given that the installer hangs and doesn't complete am I correct in
>> assuming that you don't see a popup small rectangular window that says
>> something along the lines of "Updating hardware information database"?
> Hi Mike,
>
> I do get this message along with its 'updating bar' across the screen! -
> and this completes!

Perhaps this is for the files that do load, maybe one or two are inf files
but not the ones needed
>

> John
>
> This is the
>> point at which details of the inf files etc is added to the database so
>> that the device is recognised each time it is inserted. I'm guessing the
>> "hang" happens before you get to this stage.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnN > wrote:
>>
>>> The files listed are from the ME version from the Edimax site; - it
>>> looks like the files you mention 73** just didnt install!
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

JohnN > wrote:

> Perhaps this is for the files that do load, maybe one or two are inf
> files but not the ones needed

John,

In a last act of desperation and given that you apparently have never
managed to install the rt73* driver files needed by the device I've zipped
up the three files involved and sent them to you by e-mail. Try unzipping
these and placing in a folder on the Win Me desktop and then see if you can
update/install the driver using Dev. Manager by selecting the unknown
device, choosing update driver and pointing the wizard at the folder on the
desktop.
--
Mike Maltby

[JohnN]

Problem Solved

With the help of Mike M. and all his helpful posts I have managed to get my
USB/Wireless adapter working!

In order to install an Edimax EW-7318USG Wirewless LAN Adapter (Windows
XP/Vista) onto my WinME pc I downloaded a WinME Driver from Edimax.After
unzipping the download, the resultant RaLink Application Program would not
completely install and 'hung' midway.
However upon investigation some files did install into a couple of folders
in the primary folder Program Files/Ralink.
With the adapter inserted 'an unkown device' did appear in Device Manager
and when updating this driver by pointing to the files installed above, the
driver was not recognised.
In fact at boot up an error message stating Missing Aegise2.dll file
occurred.

After trying several ideas to overcome the problem - listed in posts and
including removing my Norton protection the situation did not change - until
I obtained the missing files by mail.; and those missing files are:
acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe plus: rt73.bin, rt73.inf,
rt73u98.sys.When inserted in respective folders and running the AegisI2.exe
file successfully installed the Driver and now my Wireless system is up and
running!

Thanks to Mike M

"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
>I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME
>pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip'
>file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the
>Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver
>the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it
>'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the
>problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME
>USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>
> Thanks J.
>

[Mart]

John wrote :-

> Delete what in Safe Mode?

The 'unknown device' shown (with a yellow question/exclamation mark) in
Device Manager

> If I do whatever you are suggesting how do I get system back to Normal;

No, I think you misunderstand. There is an option to delete (or remove)
devices whilst in DevMan - and is often best done in Safe Mode (rather than
Normal Mode) as some 'badly installed devices' don't always show in Normal
Mode, but do show up in Safe Mode.

Having deleted (or removed) the device (taking its drivers with it!) in Safe
Mode, as you re-boot (back into Normal Mode), WinMe will attempt to
re-detect (as a fresh detection) your WiFi stick and put the (new) hardware
detection wizard back on the screen in readiness to setup (according to the
WiFi stick user manual) as though it was a 'first-time' attempt.

This method will *usually* fix a bad hardware installation.

> I've never (fortunately) had to boot to SafeMode!

To boot into Safe Mode, either press and hold the Shift key at power-up, or
keep stabbing at the F8 key during power-up, or press and hold the Ctrl key
at power-up until you are presented with an on-screen menu with a Safe Mode
option.

HOWEVER - I see elsewhere, that you have now succeeded in getting the full
complement of driver files (from Mike?) and have now got your adapter
working - well done! - And well done also to Mike for his perseverance <g>

Mart



"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mike wrote :-
>>
>>> As far as I am aware this is where we started some days ago. The
>>> installer just "hangs" and John has to Ctrl-Alt-Del out.
>>
>> Sorry guys, looks like I may have missed some of the earlier postings.
>>
>> John wrote :-
>>
>>> As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' ....
>>
>> Tried deleting it in Safe Mode and start over?
>
> Hi Mark,
> Delete what in Safe Mode?
> If I do whatever you are suggesting how do I get system back to Normal;
> I've never (fortunately) had to boot to SafeMode!
> John
>>
>> (Sorry if you've already done that)
>>
>> Mart
>>
>> <snipped>

[Noel Paton[_3_]]

Well done that man!
10/10 for persistence!
...I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation working
properly though.

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"JohnN" > wrote in message
. uk...
> Problem Solved
>
> With the help of Mike M. and all his helpful posts I have managed to get
> my USB/Wireless adapter working!
>
> In order to install an Edimax EW-7318USG Wirewless LAN Adapter (Windows
> XP/Vista) onto my WinME pc I downloaded a WinME Driver from Edimax.After
> unzipping the download, the resultant RaLink Application Program would not
> completely install and 'hung' midway.
> However upon investigation some files did install into a couple of folders
> in the primary folder Program Files/Ralink.
> With the adapter inserted 'an unkown device' did appear in Device Manager
> and when updating this driver by pointing to the files installed above,
> the driver was not recognised.
> In fact at boot up an error message stating Missing Aegise2.dll file
> occurred.
>
> After trying several ideas to overcome the problem - listed in posts and
> including removing my Norton protection the situation did not change -
> until I obtained the missing files by mail.; and those missing files are:
> acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe plus: rt73.bin,
> rt73.inf, rt73u98.sys.When inserted in respective folders and running the
> AegisI2.exe file successfully installed the Driver and now my Wireless
> system is up and running!
>
> Thanks to Mike M
>
> "JohnN" > wrote in message
> . uk...
>>I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME
>>pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip'
>>file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the
>>Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver
>>the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it
>>'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the
>>problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME
>>USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>
>> Thanks J.
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

Noel,

I first sent John the RT73 chipset driver files from my install and got John
to point the unknown device in Dev Man (which was the wi-fi device) at where
they were located and they then installed as they should and the device was
then recognised in Dev Man. However due to Win Me (unlike XP and later)
having no native capability of handling wi-fi I had a further look at the
Aegis folder created by the driver installer on my system and established
that AegisI2.exe was the Aegis installer. I therefore sent John a copy of
the Aegis folder and on executing AegisI2.exe Aegis installed and I
understand John was then able to configure and use a wi-fi connection using
the Edimax device.

> ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
> working properly though.

As would I and, showing my known bias, I can't help feeling that Norton had
a hand in the problem.
--
Mike


Noel Paton > wrote:

> Well done that man!
> 10/10 for persistence!
> ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
> working properly though.

[Noel Paton[_3_]]

Yeah - my inclination is that way as well

OT - I'll be in touch later..... Norton(??)-induced problem on an XP box

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Mike M" > wrote in message
...

>> ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
>> working properly though.
>
> As would I and, showing my known bias, I can't help feeling that Norton
> had a hand in the problem.
> --
> Mike
>
>
> Noel Paton > wrote:
>
>> Well done that man!
>> 10/10 for persistence!
>> ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
>> working properly though.
>

[DrPlant]

Mike,

I am having a similar problem with trying to install a Sabrent G802 pci
wireless card in my HP6745C (Windows ME). On initial installation the
install program would hang just before completing (the progress bar extended
all the way to the end). On restart, hardware showed as recognized, and the
green light on the card blinks on. The problem appears to be with the Ralink
wireless utility installation.

I do get a startup alert that AeGise2.dll is missing. FYI, the Sabrent card
has a Ralink 2561 (RT61). I went on the Ralink site and downloaded and
installed that driver (version 1.2.6.0), but it still hung on the Ralink
utility installation. I have to force the install program closed every time.
After reading the posts here, I thought perhaps installing the most recent
version of the Ralink utility might work, but it did not (it was a 2009 USB
RT7x driver package).

Last night I decided not to force kill the hanging install and went to bed.
I woke up to a different message this morning: an error has occured in your
program IS_ap_sta_6x_d_1.

Upon reboot, I didn't see the usual Aegis2.dll missing notice, but instead,
that Is_ap_sta_6x_d_1 has caused an error in I81XDW9.DRV, which I found out
is for the Intel 82810 graphics controller. I updated the graphics
controller to the most recent version I could find (my previous was dated
2000, the update...I think v6.7, was dated 8/23/2002), and tried to reinstall
the WAN card driver and Ralink utility (both the RT6x and RT7x versions), but
it hung again. Keep in mind, that throughout all these reinstalls, the card
is recognized upon restart (hardware install window briefly opens), and the
green light is blinking.

Ralink exists in the start menu, and there is a Ralink folder in my
programs, but upon execution, I get a missing Aegise2.dll message (I'm not
sure where to look for this dll, but it is not in the Ralink folder)

So my problem is that I think I have a properly installed WAN card (it shows
as properly installed in Device manager, and the green light is on), but I
don't have a functional utility to get myself connected. I can't find
anything to manage the connection on the ME system which is similar to my
other wireless XP systems.

I thought there might be a 3rd party wireless management utility, and I
thought I found one (BVRP Connection Manager Lite 1.0), but the several
dowload sites I found actually download v1.1, which upon install alerts an
incompatable OS and shuts down the install.

Since I think my wireless card works, is there a simple solution to getting
myself connected to my network? I have a Robotics USR5461 wireless g router,
using a WEP key.

"Mike M" wrote:

> Noel,
>
> I first sent John the RT73 chipset driver files from my install and got John
> to point the unknown device in Dev Man (which was the wi-fi device) at where
> they were located and they then installed as they should and the device was
> then recognised in Dev Man. However due to Win Me (unlike XP and later)
> having no native capability of handling wi-fi I had a further look at the
> Aegis folder created by the driver installer on my system and established
> that AegisI2.exe was the Aegis installer. I therefore sent John a copy of
> the Aegis folder and on executing AegisI2.exe Aegis installed and I
> understand John was then able to configure and use a wi-fi connection using
> the Edimax device.
>
> > ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
> > working properly though.
>
> As would I and, showing my known bias, I can't help feeling that Norton had
> a hand in the problem.
> --
> Mike
>
>
> Noel Paton > wrote:
>
> > Well done that man!
> > 10/10 for persistence!
> > ..I'd still love to find out what prevented 'normal' installation
> > working properly though.
>
>

[Mike M]

Please mail me and I'll try and get back to you tomorrow. The problem,
based on my earlier work with John, is that the
C:\Program Files\Ralink>RT7xWireless LANCard>Aegis> folder containing:
acAuth.dll, AegisE2.dll, AegisI2.exe, AegisI5.exe isn't created or populated
and similarly for the rt73 driver files. John managed to solve his problem
by using a copy of this folder and files that I e-mailed him.

I'll try and dig out the details overnight and let you have a copy. I'm
sorry I can't help "right now" as I'm currently rather busy on another
problem. In preparation I would probably use system restore to roll your
system back to the state it was in before you hit your Is_ap_sta_6x_d_1
problems as they should be unrelated to your problems with the wi-fi card.

Regards,
--
Mike Maltby



DrPlant > wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I am having a similar problem with trying to install a Sabrent G802
> pci wireless card in my HP6745C (Windows ME). On initial
> installation the install program would hang just before completing
> (the progress bar extended all the way to the end). On restart,
> hardware showed as recognized, and the green light on the card blinks
> on. The problem appears to be with the Ralink wireless utility
> installation.
>
> I do get a startup alert that AeGise2.dll is missing. FYI, the
> Sabrent card has a Ralink 2561 (RT61). I went on the Ralink site and
> downloaded and installed that driver (version 1.2.6.0), but it still
> hung on the Ralink utility installation. I have to force the install
> program closed every time. After reading the posts here, I thought
> perhaps installing the most recent version of the Ralink utility
> might work, but it did not (it was a 2009 USB RT7x driver package).
>
> Last night I decided not to force kill the hanging install and went
> to bed. I woke up to a different message this morning: an error has
> occured in your program IS_ap_sta_6x_d_1.
>
> Upon reboot, I didn't see the usual Aegis2.dll missing notice, but
> instead, that Is_ap_sta_6x_d_1 has caused an error in I81XDW9.DRV,
> which I found out is for the Intel 82810 graphics controller. I
> updated the graphics controller to the most recent version I could
> find (my previous was dated 2000, the update...I think v6.7, was
> dated 8/23/2002), and tried to reinstall the WAN card driver and
> Ralink utility (both the RT6x and RT7x versions), but it hung again.
> Keep in mind, that throughout all these reinstalls, the card is
> recognized upon restart (hardware install window briefly opens), and
> the green light is blinking.
>
> Ralink exists in the start menu, and there is a Ralink folder in my
> programs, but upon execution, I get a missing Aegise2.dll message
> (I'm not sure where to look for this dll, but it is not in the Ralink
> folder)
>
> So my problem is that I think I have a properly installed WAN card
> (it shows as properly installed in Device manager, and the green
> light is on), but I don't have a functional utility to get myself
> connected. I can't find anything to manage the connection on the ME
> system which is similar to my other wireless XP systems.
>
> I thought there might be a 3rd party wireless management utility, and
> I thought I found one (BVRP Connection Manager Lite 1.0), but the
> several dowload sites I found actually download v1.1, which upon
> install alerts an incompatable OS and shuts down the install.
>
> Since I think my wireless card works, is there a simple solution to
> getting myself connected to my network? I have a Robotics USR5461
> wireless g router, using a WEP key.