USB's 2.0

[Pat[_3_]]

Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can email
me directly tried all the software downloads error message
need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
--
Pat

[Don Phillipson[_5_]]

"Pat" > wrote in message
...

> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.

You will not get much help unless you identify the
devices you want to connect via USB and whether
you have device drivers for Win98.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Don Phillipson[_5_]]

"Pat" > wrote in message
...

> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.

You will not get much help unless you identify the
devices you want to connect via USB and whether
you have device drivers for Win98.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[teebo]

> I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.

since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
And you can use news since you are here, right?

news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)

If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?

please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
your money went to Sandisk anyway...)

if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
the U3-functionallity. you can download an U3-remover from
http://www.u3.com/support/default.aspx#CQ3
But I'm not sure you can run the U3-remover program frow win98
though, perhaps you must use win2000/XP to fix your usbmemory.
ask a friend to use his winXP-computer for some minutes.

[teebo]

> I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.

since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
And you can use news since you are here, right?

news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)

If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?

please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
your money went to Sandisk anyway...)

if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
the U3-functionallity. you can download an U3-remover from
http://www.u3.com/support/default.aspx#CQ3
But I'm not sure you can run the U3-remover program frow win98
though, perhaps you must use win2000/XP to fix your usbmemory.
ask a friend to use his winXP-computer for some minutes.

[mm]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:35:51 GMT, teebo > wrote:

>> I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.
>
>since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
>And you can use news since you are here, right?
>
>news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
>add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)
>
>If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
>the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
>your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?
>
>please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
>perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
>if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
>your money went to Sandisk anyway...)
>
>if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
>the U3-functionallity.

I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98 and once
for a bit on winxp, without removing U3 at all. It worked fine.

In fact I was even able to to load data, and maybe programs (I forget)
at home, using win98, and still use them with u3 when at my brother's,
who has winxp.

How come you think it is ugly? I brought my laptop with me to my
brother's, for other reasons, but there is already one .jpg etc.
viewer for u3, and it would have been great to only have to bring the
flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
installing any software on my brother's computer. Actually, he
wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that
problem.

[mm]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:35:51 GMT, teebo > wrote:

>> I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.
>
>since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
>And you can use news since you are here, right?
>
>news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
>add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)
>
>If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
>the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
>your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?
>
>please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
>perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
>if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
>your money went to Sandisk anyway...)
>
>if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
>the U3-functionallity.

I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98 and once
for a bit on winxp, without removing U3 at all. It worked fine.

In fact I was even able to to load data, and maybe programs (I forget)
at home, using win98, and still use them with u3 when at my brother's,
who has winxp.

How come you think it is ugly? I brought my laptop with me to my
brother's, for other reasons, but there is already one .jpg etc.
viewer for u3, and it would have been great to only have to bring the
flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
installing any software on my brother's computer. Actually, he
wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that
problem.

[Alan Edwards]

USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

I have no problem using USB 2.0 with Win98 SE on a range of USBs.
What version of Win98?
What specific USB device?

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:15:01 -0800, in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Pat > wrote:

>Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can email
>me directly tried all the software downloads error message
>need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
>click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.

[Alan Edwards]

USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

I have no problem using USB 2.0 with Win98 SE on a range of USBs.
What version of Win98?
What specific USB device?

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:15:01 -0800, in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Pat > wrote:

>Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can email
>me directly tried all the software downloads error message
>need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
>click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.

[Lil' Dave]

Don't know what is more boring. Someone whose newsgroup user name under
other newsgroup user names may have been here in similar scenarios in the
past within all practicality no information provided question, or, watching
xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
at the very least.

Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

--
Dave

"Pat" > wrote in message
...
> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
> --
> Pat

[Lil' Dave]

Don't know what is more boring. Someone whose newsgroup user name under
other newsgroup user names may have been here in similar scenarios in the
past within all practicality no information provided question, or, watching
xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
at the very least.

Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

--
Dave

"Pat" > wrote in message
...
> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
> --
> Pat

[Lil' Dave]

Don't know what is more boring. Someone whose newsgroup user name under
other newsgroup user names may have been here in similar scenarios in the
past within all practicality no information provided question, or, watching
xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
at the very least.

Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

--
Dave

"Pat" > wrote in message
...
> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
> --
> Pat

[Lil' Dave]

Don't know what is more boring. Someone whose newsgroup user name under
other newsgroup user names may have been here in similar scenarios in the
past within all practicality no information provided question, or, watching
xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
at the very least.

Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

--
Dave

"Pat" > wrote in message
...
> Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
> --
> Pat

[Pat[_3_]]

I have flash drives that cannot be read by my USB port
--
Pat


"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "Pat" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> > me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> > need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> > click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
>
> You will not get much help unless you identify the
> devices you want to connect via USB and whether
> you have device drivers for Win98.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>
>

[Pat[_3_]]

I have flash drives that cannot be read by my USB port
--
Pat


"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "Pat" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Ineed to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computer you can
> email
> > me directly tried all the software downloads error
> message
> > need windows 2000 this is an old laptop but still very much alive tried to
> > click the link to a response but it did not connect so email me directly.
>
> You will not get much help unless you identify the
> devices you want to connect via USB and whether
> you have device drivers for Win98.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>
>

[Pat[_3_]]

I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY
--
Pat


"teebo" wrote:

> > I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.
>
> since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
> And you can use news since you are here, right?
>
> news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
> add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)
>
> If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
> the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
> your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?
>
> please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
> perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
> if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
> your money went to Sandisk anyway...)
>
> if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
> the U3-functionallity. you can download an U3-remover from
> http://www.u3.com/support/default.aspx#CQ3
> But I'm not sure you can run the U3-remover program frow win98
> though, perhaps you must use win2000/XP to fix your usbmemory.
> ask a friend to use his winXP-computer for some minutes.
>

[Pat[_3_]]

I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY
--
Pat


"teebo" wrote:

> > I need to convert my USB's to be read on my windows 98 computeryou can email me directly all the software downloadserror message "need windows 2000"this is an old laptop but still very much alivetried to click the link to a response but it did not connectso email me directly.
>
> since you can read news-posts with your newsprogram (or using a web-client
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> for example), then there is no need to send responses with email allso...
> And you can use news since you are here, right?
>
> news is much about multiple people seeing others answers and
> add more info&comments on those. many-to-many communication :-)
>
> If I understand your question right, you have allready installed
> the universal usb driver (mentioned in other newsthreads) but
> your usb-memory is the kind that needs to be setup to work normally?
>
> please tell the name brand/model of it to make sure.
> perhaps it one of those with that ugly "U3" on it?
> if so, perhaps it is a Sandisk memory? (otherwise 5% of
> your money went to Sandisk anyway...)
>
> if it is U3 then you need to run some special program to remove
> the U3-functionallity. you can download an U3-remover from
> http://www.u3.com/support/default.aspx#CQ3
> But I'm not sure you can run the U3-remover program frow win98
> though, perhaps you must use win2000/XP to fix your usbmemory.
> ask a friend to use his winXP-computer for some minutes.
>

[teebo]

> I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98

aha ok win98 perhaps ignores just U3 (good os!)
it is only on XP U3 is a problem then...

> How come you think it is ugly?

it autostarts program when you insert it (!)
that is as bad as it can get when it comes to security
and spreading virus and other malwares. because of U3
some companies have forbidden use of USB-memories now :-(

ok perhaps the bad part is in windows that allows
such behaviour but it doesnt mather.

> flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
> installing any software on my brother's computer.

first, normally os'es have a picture viewer allready (yeah that
is something that is missing in an "empty" win98-installation
and win98-Paint can't open jpg images either, but I guess there
is allways a web browser), and secondly you don't have to use
U3 to run programs from an usb memory, there are lots of
portable apps that is not U3. You start them if you need them,
but...

> wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
> skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that

....I would go bananas if you started programs from your usb
memory on my computer! I don't know where you have put that
usb memory before!

[teebo]

> I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98

aha ok win98 perhaps ignores just U3 (good os!)
it is only on XP U3 is a problem then...

> How come you think it is ugly?

it autostarts program when you insert it (!)
that is as bad as it can get when it comes to security
and spreading virus and other malwares. because of U3
some companies have forbidden use of USB-memories now :-(

ok perhaps the bad part is in windows that allows
such behaviour but it doesnt mather.

> flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
> installing any software on my brother's computer.

first, normally os'es have a picture viewer allready (yeah that
is something that is missing in an "empty" win98-installation
and win98-Paint can't open jpg images either, but I guess there
is allways a web browser), and secondly you don't have to use
U3 to run programs from an usb memory, there are lots of
portable apps that is not U3. You start them if you need them,
but...

> wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
> skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that

....I would go bananas if you started programs from your usb
memory on my computer! I don't know where you have put that
usb memory before!

[teebo]

> I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY

so you have two usb memory sticks
one is "PNY Attaché" and the other is "SONY" of unknown model...
(are you sure there are no model name or number on the sony?)

I suppose the PNY is one of these
http://www3.pny.com/category_buymulti.aspx?Category_ID=53
or one of these?
http://www.pny-europe.com/products.php?usb_flash_drives=3&section=category&categoryid=6
can you be more specific?

If you have tried the universal "works for all" usb-driver
but it didn't work for you, then perhaps you can try the driver PNY makes
themself. You find it under download on their pny-europe.com web site.
Strangely they seems to have different drivers for different models..
http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy_2.5.3.4.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/PNYUSB_Win98.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/Carry it Easy.zip
I suppose that if one don't work, then try another...

There is more help about how to install it on their support webpage:
http://www.pny-europe.com/support.php?section=faq&sel_language=en&sel_type=6
more faq and guides here if you need them:
http://www2.pny.com/support/support_landing_cat.aspx?SectionID=1057
(and there is other drivers you can try there allso)


If the universal don't work but PNY's own do, a good idea might be to
post a message on http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605
how it failed, with info of exact model, if it have some special features,
and link to the working pny driver, to help make the universal better
in the future.

[teebo]

> I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY

so you have two usb memory sticks
one is "PNY Attaché" and the other is "SONY" of unknown model...
(are you sure there are no model name or number on the sony?)

I suppose the PNY is one of these
http://www3.pny.com/category_buymulti.aspx?Category_ID=53
or one of these?
http://www.pny-europe.com/products.php?usb_flash_drives=3&section=category&categoryid=6
can you be more specific?

If you have tried the universal "works for all" usb-driver
but it didn't work for you, then perhaps you can try the driver PNY makes
themself. You find it under download on their pny-europe.com web site.
Strangely they seems to have different drivers for different models..
http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy_2.5.3.4.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/PNYUSB_Win98.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy.exe
http://91.121.96.42/Support/Carry it Easy.zip
I suppose that if one don't work, then try another...

There is more help about how to install it on their support webpage:
http://www.pny-europe.com/support.php?section=faq&sel_language=en&sel_type=6
more faq and guides here if you need them:
http://www2.pny.com/support/support_landing_cat.aspx?SectionID=1057
(and there is other drivers you can try there allso)


If the universal don't work but PNY's own do, a good idea might be to
post a message on http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605
how it failed, with info of exact model, if it have some special features,
and link to the working pny driver, to help make the universal better
in the future.

[teebo]

> past within all practicality no information provided question,or, watching xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

hehe.. updating XP with modem every other week must be
horribly booring :-D

how could I survive back then with only 56kbit/s ?

> Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
> of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
> at the very least.

writing vague newsposts is an artform
that takes lots of years to learn and make perfect

> Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

:-)

I often subconscious make a model of the person I answer
and somehow I think Pat don't talk english normally (me neither...)
and also very young... so I like to pat on his/her head ... :-D

I have never heard of PNA before but I must say that
this usb-memory looks kind of cute:
http://www.sweclockers.com/imagebank/200811/Pny_miniusb_lite001.jpg

About "PNY and Sony" btw, I just read that they together
are selling usb memory sticks with movies on them...
wouldn't a normal dvd be cheaper?
(ok you can probably use the usb memory for other things
after you have seen the movie, and don't want to keep the
movie because it was a booring hollywood product but anyway...)
And if I know Sony right it is probably infested with
some ugly DRM too... (anyone that can say rootkit raise a hand?)

[teebo]

> past within all practicality no information provided question,or, watching xp updates download on a 56K phone modem.

hehe.. updating XP with modem every other week must be
horribly booring :-D

how could I survive back then with only 56kbit/s ?

> Just curious, how long does it take you to develop each post to the extent
> of lack of information and vagueness of question? Guessing it takes awhile
> at the very least.

writing vague newsposts is an artform
that takes lots of years to learn and make perfect

> Keep it up, at least there's some entertainment value in it.

:-)

I often subconscious make a model of the person I answer
and somehow I think Pat don't talk english normally (me neither...)
and also very young... so I like to pat on his/her head ... :-D

I have never heard of PNA before but I must say that
this usb-memory looks kind of cute:
http://www.sweclockers.com/imagebank/200811/Pny_miniusb_lite001.jpg

About "PNY and Sony" btw, I just read that they together
are selling usb memory sticks with movies on them...
wouldn't a normal dvd be cheaper?
(ok you can probably use the usb memory for other things
after you have seen the movie, and don't want to keep the
movie because it was a booring hollywood product but anyway...)
And if I know Sony right it is probably infested with
some ugly DRM too... (anyone that can say rootkit raise a hand?)

[Pat[_3_]]

Just read the device PNY Attache 2G I only plug the PNY into my computer at
home a windows XP still going strong too. Reads it opens right up no problem.
The SONY is for college work that needs to be done at IT Center only gets
plugged in there with what floats around there anything can come home.
The big PNY is also an Attache 8 G code on it CEFC.
--
Pat


"teebo" wrote:

>
> > I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY
>
> so you have two usb memory sticks
> one is "PNY Attaché" and the other is "SONY" of unknown model...
> (are you sure there are no model name or number on the sony?)
>
> I suppose the PNY is one of these
> http://www3.pny.com/category_buymulti.aspx?Category_ID=53
> or one of these?
> http://www.pny-europe.com/products.php?usb_flash_drives=3&section=category&categoryid=6
> can you be more specific?
>
> If you have tried the universal "works for all" usb-driver
> but it didn't work for you, then perhaps you can try the driver PNY makes
> themself. You find it under download on their pny-europe.com web site.
> Strangely they seems to have different drivers for different models..
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy_2.5.3.4.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/PNYUSB_Win98.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/Carry it Easy.zip
> I suppose that if one don't work, then try another...
>
> There is more help about how to install it on their support webpage:
> http://www.pny-europe.com/support.php?section=faq&sel_language=en&sel_type=6
> more faq and guides here if you need them:
> http://www2.pny.com/support/support_landing_cat.aspx?SectionID=1057
> (and there is other drivers you can try there allso)
>
>
> If the universal don't work but PNY's own do, a good idea might be to
> post a message on http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605
> how it failed, with info of exact model, if it have some special features,
> and link to the working pny driver, to help make the universal better
> in the future.
>
>

[Pat[_3_]]

Just read the device PNY Attache 2G I only plug the PNY into my computer at
home a windows XP still going strong too. Reads it opens right up no problem.
The SONY is for college work that needs to be done at IT Center only gets
plugged in there with what floats around there anything can come home.
The big PNY is also an Attache 8 G code on it CEFC.
--
Pat


"teebo" wrote:

>
> > I have PNY flash drives one is the Attache and the other is SONY
>
> so you have two usb memory sticks
> one is "PNY Attaché" and the other is "SONY" of unknown model...
> (are you sure there are no model name or number on the sony?)
>
> I suppose the PNY is one of these
> http://www3.pny.com/category_buymulti.aspx?Category_ID=53
> or one of these?
> http://www.pny-europe.com/products.php?usb_flash_drives=3&section=category&categoryid=6
> can you be more specific?
>
> If you have tried the universal "works for all" usb-driver
> but it didn't work for you, then perhaps you can try the driver PNY makes
> themself. You find it under download on their pny-europe.com web site.
> Strangely they seems to have different drivers for different models..
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy_2.5.3.4.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/PNYUSB_Win98.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/CarryItEasy.exe
> http://91.121.96.42/Support/Carry it Easy.zip
> I suppose that if one don't work, then try another...
>
> There is more help about how to install it on their support webpage:
> http://www.pny-europe.com/support.php?section=faq&sel_language=en&sel_type=6
> more faq and guides here if you need them:
> http://www2.pny.com/support/support_landing_cat.aspx?SectionID=1057
> (and there is other drivers you can try there allso)
>
>
> If the universal don't work but PNY's own do, a good idea might be to
> post a message on http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605
> how it failed, with info of exact model, if it have some special features,
> and link to the working pny driver, to help make the universal better
> in the future.
>
>

[mm]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:39:11 GMT, teebo > wrote:

>
>> I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98
>
>aha ok win98 perhaps ignores just U3 (good os!)

FTR, I should have said win98SE.

>it is only on XP U3 is a problem then...
>
>> How come you think it is ugly?
>
>it autostarts program when you insert it (!)

I don't remember exactly what happened when I inserted it in my
brother's computer. In the previous post I said "Maybe I loaded
programs", but actually I know I copied in programs, from the u3
website. What I meant was is: I don't know if the one I used was one
that was on the drive when I bought it or one I copied in. Certainly
most of the programs on the drive didn't start. I don't think any of
them did, except maybe u3 itself.

>that is as bad as it can get when it comes to security
>and spreading virus and other malwares. because of U3
>some companies have forbidden use of USB-memories now :-(

Wow. Whether they have u3 on them or not??

>ok perhaps the bad part is in windows that allows
>such behaviour but it doesnt mather.
>
>> flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
>> installing any software on my brother's computer.
>
>first, normally os'es have a picture viewer allready (yeah that
>is something that is missing in an "empty" win98-installation
>and win98-Paint can't open jpg images either, but I guess there
>is allways a web browser),

None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
backwards.**

> and secondly you don't have to use
>U3 to run programs from an usb memory, there are lots of
>portable apps that is not U3. You start them if you need them,
>but...

Well, Agent and Eudora, that i use every day, are like that, now that
you mention it.

>> wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
>> skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that
>
>...I would go bananas if you started programs from your usb
>memory on my computer! I don't know where you have put that
>usb memory before!

Nowhere but my own computer, which is fully virus-protected. But I
see your point.

I don't remember if I liked the u3 picture vewier software or not.


(Off topic: I spent a lot of time looking for good software when I got
home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
the following exceptions.

When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending
files to them to be printed and mailed to me, or maybe picked up at a
local drugstore. I took hundreds of pictures, and for 99% of them, I
just want to look at them. And maybe I'd like to start printing
myself the ones I want prints of.

Ritz Camera, a local chain, had something a bit better but still not
great.

Believe it or not, Wal-mart had the best software by a film processor,
plus they put mini-prints of each photo on the CD label. There is
another big-box membership store, I forget their name, CVB?, that does
this. Eventually I found a word to search on and the viewing software
is available free from the company that wrote it.

And there was software that came with my friend's Ricoh camera. No
good at all.

The best turned out to be the program that came with my camera, made
by Fujifilm.

Whether it's portable I don't know. I don't know what it takes to
run in u3, but I'm sure it won't do that either.

[mm]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:39:11 GMT, teebo > wrote:

>
>> I've been using a 4 gig Sandisk flash drive with U3, on win98
>
>aha ok win98 perhaps ignores just U3 (good os!)

FTR, I should have said win98SE.

>it is only on XP U3 is a problem then...
>
>> How come you think it is ugly?
>
>it autostarts program when you insert it (!)

I don't remember exactly what happened when I inserted it in my
brother's computer. In the previous post I said "Maybe I loaded
programs", but actually I know I copied in programs, from the u3
website. What I meant was is: I don't know if the one I used was one
that was on the drive when I bought it or one I copied in. Certainly
most of the programs on the drive didn't start. I don't think any of
them did, except maybe u3 itself.

>that is as bad as it can get when it comes to security
>and spreading virus and other malwares. because of U3
>some companies have forbidden use of USB-memories now :-(

Wow. Whether they have u3 on them or not??

>ok perhaps the bad part is in windows that allows
>such behaviour but it doesnt mather.
>
>> flash drive, and to be able to run the picture viewer without
>> installing any software on my brother's computer.
>
>first, normally os'es have a picture viewer allready (yeah that
>is something that is missing in an "empty" win98-installation
>and win98-Paint can't open jpg images either, but I guess there
>is allways a web browser),

None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
backwards.**

> and secondly you don't have to use
>U3 to run programs from an usb memory, there are lots of
>portable apps that is not U3. You start them if you need them,
>but...

Well, Agent and Eudora, that i use every day, are like that, now that
you mention it.

>> wouldn't complain if I installed something, but I know a lot of
>> skittish people who would go bananas if I tried that. U3 solves that
>
>...I would go bananas if you started programs from your usb
>memory on my computer! I don't know where you have put that
>usb memory before!

Nowhere but my own computer, which is fully virus-protected. But I
see your point.

I don't remember if I liked the u3 picture vewier software or not.


(Off topic: I spent a lot of time looking for good software when I got
home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
the following exceptions.

When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending
files to them to be printed and mailed to me, or maybe picked up at a
local drugstore. I took hundreds of pictures, and for 99% of them, I
just want to look at them. And maybe I'd like to start printing
myself the ones I want prints of.

Ritz Camera, a local chain, had something a bit better but still not
great.

Believe it or not, Wal-mart had the best software by a film processor,
plus they put mini-prints of each photo on the CD label. There is
another big-box membership store, I forget their name, CVB?, that does
this. Eventually I found a word to search on and the viewing software
is available free from the company that wrote it.

And there was software that came with my friend's Ricoh camera. No
good at all.

The best turned out to be the program that came with my camera, made
by Fujifilm.

Whether it's portable I don't know. I don't know what it takes to
run in u3, but I'm sure it won't do that either.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message >, mm
> writes:
[]
>None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
>family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
>with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
>backwards.**
[]
>home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
>some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
>didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
>the following exceptions.

In what way did IrfanView not meet your needs? It can certainly do all
you mention above.
>
>When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
>to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
>It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
>harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
>think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
>to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending

I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some
software (not just Kodak's own) can read CDs in this format, including
viewing the images from the disc. (I _think_ IrfanView is one that can,
but I have no such disc, so can't say.)
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"THE MIT LAW OF SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPMENT: Every program expands until
it can read mail." - unknown

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message >, mm
> writes:
[]
>None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
>family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
>with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
>backwards.**
[]
>home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
>some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
>didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
>the following exceptions.

In what way did IrfanView not meet your needs? It can certainly do all
you mention above.
>
>When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
>to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
>It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
>harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
>think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
>to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending

I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some
software (not just Kodak's own) can read CDs in this format, including
viewing the images from the disc. (I _think_ IrfanView is one that can,
but I have no such disc, so can't say.)
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"THE MIT LAW OF SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPMENT: Every program expands until
it can read mail." - unknown

[mm]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:

>In message >, mm
> writes:
>[]
>>None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
>>family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
>>with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
>>backwards.**
>[]
>>home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
>>some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
>>didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
>>the following exceptions.
>
>In what way did IrfanView not meet your needs? It can certainly do all
>you mention above.

Hmmm. Apparently I installed this November 6, 2007, more than a year
ago, just a day or two before I left on my big trip. And before I had
a digital camera. (Actually, I thought I left the first of November,
but there is no way I could have created directories on my desktop
computer when I was out of town. I left two days before my friend's
wedding. I can ask her when her wedding was.)

I don't remember why I wanted it -- it's starting to come back to
me.....- but I guess I used it only for that purpose and didn't learn
all it's capabilities. And indeed it does have slide-show and even
lets the user set the interval to a thousandth of a second!! And it
will play music, although it was not obvious how, like the Fujifilm
program was.. I'll have to spend a lot of time learning what the many
many preferences of Irfanview do. Maybe it's better.

>>
>>When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
>>to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
>>It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
>>harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
>>think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
>>to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending
>
>I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
>developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
>name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some

I think it came in the same format as comes from the digital camera.
Yeah, I didn't find the CD, only the computer files of a CD made from
a roll of film, and I'm sure the CD said Kodak on it, and the files
are in .jpg format. Is that what you mean by PhotoCD format? I
really don't know.

.....Now I recall a little better. I probably wanted Irfanview to view
the two CDs I had at that time that were made from a film camera. I
dind't intend to buy a digital camera at the time.

>software (not just Kodak's own) can read CDs in this format, including
>viewing the images from the disc. (I _think_ IrfanView is one that can,
>but I have no such disc, so can't say.)

Irfanview has no trouble reading .jpg files.

I'll have to spend more time reading its help files. etc.

And I'm pretty sure this is portable, though so far I still like the
Fujifllm software a lot, even though I think it only lets me set the
slide show interval to whole seconds.

Thanks.
>[]

[mm]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:

>In message >, mm
> writes:
>[]
>>None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
>>family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
>>with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
>>backwards.**
>[]
>>home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
>>some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
>>didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
>>the following exceptions.
>
>In what way did IrfanView not meet your needs? It can certainly do all
>you mention above.

Hmmm. Apparently I installed this November 6, 2007, more than a year
ago, just a day or two before I left on my big trip. And before I had
a digital camera. (Actually, I thought I left the first of November,
but there is no way I could have created directories on my desktop
computer when I was out of town. I left two days before my friend's
wedding. I can ask her when her wedding was.)

I don't remember why I wanted it -- it's starting to come back to
me.....- but I guess I used it only for that purpose and didn't learn
all it's capabilities. And indeed it does have slide-show and even
lets the user set the interval to a thousandth of a second!! And it
will play music, although it was not obvious how, like the Fujifilm
program was.. I'll have to spend a lot of time learning what the many
many preferences of Irfanview do. Maybe it's better.

>>
>>When I developed real film, I took each roll to a different processor,
>>to get a collection of CD-reading software. Kodak's was the worst.
>>It kept trying to install all the photos from the CD onto the
>>harddrive. It would say, "You have 15 seconds to stop this." I don't
>>think I could view the pictures at all from the CD, only by copying it
>>to the HD. Also, there whole program was centered around sending
>
>I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
>developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
>name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some

I think it came in the same format as comes from the digital camera.
Yeah, I didn't find the CD, only the computer files of a CD made from
a roll of film, and I'm sure the CD said Kodak on it, and the files
are in .jpg format. Is that what you mean by PhotoCD format? I
really don't know.

.....Now I recall a little better. I probably wanted Irfanview to view
the two CDs I had at that time that were made from a film camera. I
dind't intend to buy a digital camera at the time.

>software (not just Kodak's own) can read CDs in this format, including
>viewing the images from the disc. (I _think_ IrfanView is one that can,
>but I have no such disc, so can't say.)

Irfanview has no trouble reading .jpg files.

I'll have to spend more time reading its help files. etc.

And I'm pretty sure this is portable, though so far I still like the
Fujifllm software a lot, even though I think it only lets me set the
slide show interval to whole seconds.

Thanks.
>[]

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message >, mm
> writes:
>On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:
>
>>In message >, mm
> writes:
>>[]
>>>None of these are adequate. For showing pictures of my big trip to my
>>>family, I wanted to use something that included slide-show operation,
>>>with user-settable time between slides, ability to pause and go
>>>backwards.**
>>[]
>>>home from the trip. The multimedia group recommended Irfanview, and
>>>some group recommended picassa, which are useful, but not great. I
>>>didn't come across anything really good for free or for money, with
>>>the following exceptions.
>>
>>In what way did IrfanView not meet your needs? It can certainly do all
>>you mention above.
[]
>I don't remember why I wanted it -- it's starting to come back to
>me.....- but I guess I used it only for that purpose and didn't learn
>all it's capabilities. And indeed it does have slide-show and even
>lets the user set the interval to a thousandth of a second!! And it
>will play music, although it was not obvious how, like the Fujifilm

You just include the .mp3 file(s) in the slideshow list. IIRR, it starts
to play them when it gets to them, then after whatever interval you've
set, moves on to the next file - but if the next file is an image, the
sound file will continue playing while the images are shown. [N. b. -
I'm not sure if you need the "plugins" for it to be able to play .mp3
files; they're available on the same site, anyway, so no problem. I
always install both.]

>program was.. I'll have to spend a lot of time learning what the many
>many preferences of Irfanview do. Maybe it's better.
>
I'm still learning ... (-:
[]
>>I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
>>developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
>>name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some
>
>I think it came in the same format as comes from the digital camera.
>Yeah, I didn't find the CD, only the computer files of a CD made from
>a roll of film, and I'm sure the CD said Kodak on it, and the files
>are in .jpg format. Is that what you mean by PhotoCD format? I
>really don't know.

No. Sounds like you got a data CD, if you could just read it with
ordinary W98 Windows Explorer. (The blank CD may well have been _made_
by Kodak: they make things that involve a thin film of a chemical on a
backing, which for many years meant that they made photographic film,
but they also make recording tape, and blank CDs. Probably blank DVDs
too by now.)

The Photo CD format was one of the three formats that came out when the
CD was invented (well, there were a few others, including IIRR one that
included some analogue video!). The first (widely known) was the audio
CD, and the other two were the data CD and the PhotoCD; in the same way
as there were audio CD players, there were PhotoCD players (about the
size of a VCR - sat under the TV). It was mainly a format used for
digitising images from film - it was well before digital cameras. I
think the format included on the disc each image at several resolutions;
you took your roll of film to be developed, and a Photo CD was one of
the options. They could be added to until full, though not all outlets
offered that; I think you could get about 100 images on a disc. The
outlets sometimes gave you an index card showing all the images in tiny
thumbnail, often as the CD title card.

With the increase in digital cameras and computers, the PhotoCD format
has more or less died, though I think a medical X-ray I got recently
(had to have it done at a hospital who gave me a CD to give to my
dentist) might have been in it, or something else again. Nowadays, an
ordinary data CD is more or less universal, I think, containing as you
say whatever the camera produces, usually JPEGs.
>
>....Now I recall a little better. I probably wanted Irfanview to view
>the two CDs I had at that time that were made from a film camera. I
>dind't intend to buy a digital camera at the time.
>
>>software (not just Kodak's own) can read CDs in this format, including
>>viewing the images from the disc. (I _think_ IrfanView is one that can,
>>but I have no such disc, so can't say.)
>
>Irfanview has no trouble reading .jpg files.

No, I suspect it spends most of its time doing so. I'm not sure if it
can read CDs in the PhotoCD format - it's more a matter of whether the
OS can read them (in much the same way as W98's Explorer can't natively
read an audio CD). I'm not sure what format the images on a PhotoCD are
in - possibly several different ones for the different resolutions?
Though I suspect plain bitmap.
>
>I'll have to spend more time reading its help files. etc.
>
>And I'm pretty sure this is portable, though so far I still like the
>Fujifllm software a lot, even though I think it only lets me set the
>slide show interval to whole seconds.

IrfavView's .exe file can be copied and carried, though a full
installation is better. (It'll also make a set of slides - possibly
including music - into a stand-alone slideshow executable if you want,
though I suspect that's not adjustable once made.)
>
>Thanks.
>>[]
>
YW
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Forget computers; it's hard enough getting humans to pass the Turing test."
- David Bedno

[mm]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:26:18 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> wrote:

>
>>I don't remember why I wanted it -- it's starting to come back to
>>me.....- but I guess I used it only for that purpose and didn't learn
>>all it's capabilities. And indeed it does have slide-show and even
>>lets the user set the interval to a thousandth of a second!! And it
>>will play music, although it was not obvious how, like the Fujifilm
>
>You just include the .mp3 file(s) in the slideshow list. IIRR, it starts
>to play them when it gets to them, then after whatever interval you've
>set, moves on to the next file - but if the next file is an image, the
>sound file will continue playing while the images are shown. [N. b. -
>I'm not sure if you need the "plugins" for it to be able to play .mp3
>files; they're available on the same site, anyway, so no problem. I
>always install both.]

Thanks. Now I have to find some music. :)
>
>>program was.. I'll have to spend a lot of time learning what the many
>>many preferences of Irfanview do. Maybe it's better.
>>
>I'm still learning ... (-:
>[]
>>>I think Kodak (or one of their agents), if giving you a CD from a
>>>developed film, would be using the PhotoCD format (I think that's the
>>>name, anyway). This is a different format from an ordinary data CD. Some
>>
>>I think it came in the same format as comes from the digital camera.
>>Yeah, I didn't find the CD, only the computer files of a CD made from
>>a roll of film, and I'm sure the CD said Kodak on it, and the files
>>are in .jpg format. Is that what you mean by PhotoCD format? I
>>really don't know.
>
>No. Sounds like you got a data CD, if you could just read it with
>ordinary W98 Windows Explorer.

I play them in FireFox, and also there is the terrible software that
comes on the CD.

> (The blank CD may well have been _made_
>by Kodak: they make things that involve a thin film of a chemical on a
>backing, which for many years meant that they made photographic film,
>but they also make recording tape, and blank CDs. Probably blank DVDs
>too by now.)

I found the CD today. I forget if I got Processing by Kodak, or
"Processing by the cheap company using Kodak Paper", but the CD is in
yellow and white with print in red and blue and says "Kodak Picture
CD" and all the picture files on it are .jpg.