Changing IP

[Santander]

a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address option.
I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run winipcfg, do
release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not changed. I
tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the problem? Is
it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?

[Tim Slattery]

"SANTANDER" > wrote:

>a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address option.
>I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run winipcfg, do
>release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not changed. I
>tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the problem? Is
>it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?

AFAIK, you're not guaranteed to get a different IP address when you
release/renew, you get whatever your ISP - in particular its DHCP
server - wants to assign to you.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

[MEB[_2_]]

"SANTANDER" > wrote in message
...
| a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address
option.
| I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run winipcfg,
do
| release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not changed. I
| tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the problem?
Is
| it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
|

It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in conjunction with
the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem ID}. You
should have received some information related to that activity, either at
signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master web pages
for that information, or use the help/support to find out for sure.

You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in memory which
will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to line
problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired and/or
reset by the provider's server.

IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it has
static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is what the
assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual external address
may be from a proxy on the provider's network.

Reference:
How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512

How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269

NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best Practise
(#13449)
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~

[Santander]

I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online at IP
lookup web pages).
Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac address, cable
signal details, modem recent events Logs.
When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP WARNING -
Non-critical field invalid in response'
Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface. "Baseline Privacy
Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across the cable
network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and CMTS."
So they dont use BPI, its bad.
http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf

It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card similar as
described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269

Santander


"MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
...
>
> "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> ...
> | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address
> option.
> | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run winipcfg,
> do
> | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not changed.
I
> | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the
problem?
> Is
> | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
> |
>
> It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in conjunction with
> the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem ID}.
You
> should have received some information related to that activity, either at
> signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master web
pages
> for that information, or use the help/support to find out for sure.
>
> You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in memory which
> will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to line
> problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired and/or
> reset by the provider's server.
>
> IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it has
> static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
> Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is what the
> assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual external
address
> may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
>
> Reference:
> How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
>
> How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
>
> NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best Practise
> (#13449)
> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
>
>

[MEB[_2_]]

"SANTANDER" > wrote in message
...
| I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online at IP
| lookup web pages).
| Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac address, cable
| signal details, modem recent events Logs.
| When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP WARNING -
| Non-critical field invalid in response'

Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..

| Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
| As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface. "Baseline
Privacy
| Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across the cable
| network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and CMTS."
| So they dont use BPI, its bad.
| http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
|
| It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card similar
as
| described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
|
| Santander
|

Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm

Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search

Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing your MAC
all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to provide you
service.

You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable modem for
full effect.
Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272

What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| ...
| >
| > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address
| > option.
| > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run
winipcfg,
| > do
| > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not
changed.
| I
| > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the
| problem?
| > Is
| > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
| > |
| >
| > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in conjunction
with
| > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem ID}.
| You
| > should have received some information related to that activity, either
at
| > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master web
| pages
| > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for sure.
| >
| > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in memory
which
| > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to line
| > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired and/or
| > reset by the provider's server.
| >
| > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it has
| > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
| > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is what the
| > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual external
| address
| > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
| >
| > Reference:
| > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
| > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
| >
| > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
| > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| >
| > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best Practise
| > (#13449)
| > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| >
| > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| >
|

[Santander]

I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for every
subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static in
conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big differences*.

Santander
--------


"MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
...
>
> "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> ...
> | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online at IP
> | lookup web pages).
> | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac address,
> cable
> | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
> | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP WARNING -
> | Non-critical field invalid in response'
>
> Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
>
> | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
> | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface. "Baseline
> Privacy
> | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across the
> cable
> | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and CMTS."
> | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
> | http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
> |
> | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card
> similar
> as
> | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> |
> | Santander
> |
>
> Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
> http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
>
> Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
>
> Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing your MAC
> all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
> billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to provide you
> service.
>
> You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable modem
> for
> full effect.
> Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
>
> What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
>
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | ...
> | >
> | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP address
> | > option.
> | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run
> winipcfg,
> | > do
> | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not
> changed.
> | I
> | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the
> | problem?
> | > Is
> | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
> | > |
> | >
> | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in conjunction
> with
> | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem
> ID}.
> | You
> | > should have received some information related to that activity, either
> at
> | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master web
> | pages
> | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for sure.
> | >
> | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in memory
> which
> | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to line
> | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired
> and/or
> | > reset by the provider's server.
> | >
> | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it has
> | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
> | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is what
> the
> | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual external
> | address
> | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
> | >
> | > Reference:
> | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
> | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
> | >
> | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
> | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> | >
> | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best Practise
> | > (#13449)
> | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | >
> | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
>

[MEB[_2_]]

"Santander" > wrote in message
...
| I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
| normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for every
| subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static in
| conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big differences*.
|
| Santander
| --------
|

Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can actually
provide that answer.

HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for individual
customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find and
block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP, then it
would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their service.
Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.

When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had their own
proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which transmitted
identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There, re-assignment of
IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses had to
be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software, the
adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and just like a
network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know EXACTLY
*what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your network
you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit* that
wireless access in *your network*.
Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.

Think of it like this:
You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's server
*directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with hundreds of
thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks and
servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see what I'm
talking about here].
How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide security
for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you are who
you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability to do
what you want in THEIR network?

--
MEB c-2008
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| ...
| >
| > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online at IP
| > | lookup web pages).
| > | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac address,
| > cable
| > | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
| > | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP WARNING -
| > | Non-critical field invalid in response'
| >
| > Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
| >
| > | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
| > | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface. "Baseline
| > Privacy
| > | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across the
| > cable
| > | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and
CMTS."
| > | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
| > | http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
| > |
| > | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card
| > similar
| > as
| > | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > |
| > | Santander
| > |
| >
| > Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
| > http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
| >
| > Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
| >
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
| >
| > Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing your
MAC
| > all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
| > billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to provide you
| > service.
| >
| > You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable modem
| > for
| > full effect.
| > Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
| >
| > What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| >
| > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | >
| > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP
address
| > | > option.
| > | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run
| > winipcfg,
| > | > do
| > | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not
| > changed.
| > | I
| > | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the
| > | problem?
| > | > Is
| > | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in conjunction
| > with
| > | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem
| > ID}.
| > | You
| > | > should have received some information related to that activity,
either
| > at
| > | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master
web
| > | pages
| > | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for sure.
| > | >
| > | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in memory
| > which
| > | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to line
| > | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired
| > and/or
| > | > reset by the provider's server.
| > | >
| > | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it
has
| > | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
| > | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is what
| > the
| > | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual external
| > | address
| > | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
| > | >
| > | > Reference:
| > | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
| > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
| > | >
| > | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
| > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > | >
| > | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best Practise
| > | > (#13449)
| > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | >
| > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > | > _ _
| > | > ~~
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
| >
|

[Santander]

well, the small ISP has much less customers, not hundreds of thousand.
I do not demand from them to allow me constantly change their network
configuration, I just worry about a privacy.

S.

"MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Santander" > wrote in message
> ...
> | I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
> | normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for every
> | subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static in
> | conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big differences*.
> |
> | Santander
> | --------
> |
>
> Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can actually
> provide that answer.
>
> HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
> providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for individual
> customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find and
> block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
> auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP, then it
> would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their service.
> Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
> returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.
>
> When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had their own
> proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which transmitted
> identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There, re-assignment of
> IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses had to
> be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software, the
> adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
> NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
> permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and just like
> a
> network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know EXACTLY
> *what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your network
> you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit* that
> wireless access in *your network*.
> Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
> hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.
>
> Think of it like this:
> You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's
> server
> *directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with hundreds
> of
> thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks and
> servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see what I'm
> talking about here].
> How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide security
> for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you are who
> you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
> More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability to do
> what you want in THEIR network?
>
> --
> MEB c-2008
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
>
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | ...
> | >
> | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online at
> IP
> | > | lookup web pages).
> | > | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac address,
> | > cable
> | > | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
> | > | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP WARNING -
> | > | Non-critical field invalid in response'
> | >
> | > Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
> | >
> | > | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
> | > | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface. "Baseline
> | > Privacy
> | > | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across the
> | > cable
> | > | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and
> CMTS."
> | > | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
> | > | http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
> | > |
> | > | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card
> | > similar
> | > as
> | > | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> | > |
> | > | Santander
> | > |
> | >
> | > Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
> | > http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
> | >
> | > Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
> | >
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
> | >
> | > Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing your
> MAC
> | > all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
> | > billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to provide
> you
> | > service.
> | >
> | > You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable
> modem
> | > for
> | > full effect.
> | > Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
> | >
> | > What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | >
> | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | >
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | > | ...
> | > | >
> | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> | > | > ...
> | > | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP
> address
> | > | > option.
> | > | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run
> | > winipcfg,
> | > | > do
> | > | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not
> | > changed.
> | > | I
> | > | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is the
> | > | problem?
> | > | > Is
> | > | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in
> conjunction
> | > with
> | > | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable Modem
> | > ID}.
> | > | You
> | > | > should have received some information related to that activity,
> either
> | > at
> | > | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers master
> web
> | > | pages
> | > | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for
> sure.
> | > | >
> | > | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in
> memory
> | > which
> | > | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to
> line
> | > | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired
> | > and/or
> | > | > reset by the provider's server.
> | > | >
> | > | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether it
> has
> | > | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
> | > | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is
> what
> | > the
> | > | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual
> external
> | > | address
> | > | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
> | > | >
> | > | > Reference:
> | > | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
> | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
> | > | >
> | > | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
> | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> | > | >
> | > | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best
> Practise
> | > | > (#13449)
> | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > | >
> | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> | > | > _ _
> | > | > ~~
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

[MEB[_2_]]

"Santander" > wrote in message
...
| well, the small ISP has much less customers, not hundreds of thousand.
| I do not demand from them to allow me constantly change their network
| configuration, I just worry about a privacy.
|
| S.

We all worry about privacy.. the problem is, there never, really, was any
privacy out on the Internet. Regardless of what you do to hide, once you
connect with ANY part of the Internet's network, you have been identified.
Go to a web site and its server pulls information. It has to, so it can
provide you with what you asked for.
It doesn't matter if you're behind a router or a NAT or a firewall or a
proxy, they have an address or pass an address which becomes part of the
sent IP packet... it can't change... UNLESS both the sender and the receiver
run some kind of algorythm which *syncronizes IP generation on the fly*. The
difficulty would be routing, it becomes a matter of WHERE and HOW to route
the packets when there are so many nodes in between. Broadcast the new IP
and you're once again identified. Fail to broadcast it, and the packet has
no where to go and no way to get there, there is no destination. The packet
dies within very short steps/hops, if it goes anywhere.
For example: VPN creates a permanent LINK between computers and attempts to
block outside access.
Can you travel the Internet from within a VPN?
WELLLLL, yeeeaaaaah, but one end must be a hosting server for the Internet
access. It then becomes an attackable point into the VPN.

As I have indicated before, EVERYTHING has a sending and receiving address,
whether you are behind an anonymous server/service or not, the packet
travels the web/network and MUST have a destination for the connection to
exist... if the destination is discovered or monitored, or some software
uses an already authorized connection or IP then where's the privacy and
security.... just in your mind because it really doesn't exist.
Of course this is just my interpretation of what goes on out here...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| ...
| >
| >
| > "Santander" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
| > | normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for
every
| > | subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static in
| > | conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big differences*.
| > |
| > | Santander
| > | --------
| > |
| >
| > Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can actually
| > provide that answer.
| >
| > HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
| > providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for individual
| > customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find and
| > block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
| > auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP, then
it
| > would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their
service.
| > Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
| > returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.
| >
| > When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had their
own
| > proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which transmitted
| > identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There, re-assignment
of
| > IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses had
to
| > be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software, the
| > adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
| > NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
| > permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and just
like
| > a
| > network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know
EXACTLY
| > *what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your
network
| > you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit* that
| > wireless access in *your network*.
| > Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
| > hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.
| >
| > Think of it like this:
| > You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's
| > server
| > *directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with
hundreds
| > of
| > thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks and
| > servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see what
I'm
| > talking about here].
| > How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide
security
| > for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you are
who
| > you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
| > More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability to
do
| > what you want in THEIR network?
| >
| > --
| > MEB c-2008
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| >
| > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | >
| > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online
at
| > IP
| > | > | lookup web pages).
| > | > | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac
address,
| > | > cable
| > | > | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
| > | > | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP
WARNING -
| > | > | Non-critical field invalid in response'
| > | >
| > | > Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
| > | >
| > | > | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
| > | > | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface.
"Baseline
| > | > Privacy
| > | > | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across
the
| > | > cable
| > | > | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and
| > CMTS."
| > | > | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
| > | > |
http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
| > | > |
| > | > | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network Card
| > | > similar
| > | > as
| > | > | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > | > |
| > | > | Santander
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
| > | > http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
| > | >
| > | > Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
| > | >
| >
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
| > | >
| > | > Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing
your
| > MAC
| > | > all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
| > | > billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to provide
| > you
| > | > service.
| > | >
| > | > You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable
| > modem
| > | > for
| > | > full effect.
| > | > Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
| > | >
| > | > What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | >
| > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > | > _ _
| > | > ~~
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | > | ...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > | > | > ...
| > | > | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP
| > address
| > | > | > option.
| > | > | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then run
| > | > winipcfg,
| > | > | > do
| > | > | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has not
| > | > changed.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is
the
| > | > | problem?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in
| > conjunction
| > | > with
| > | > | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable
Modem
| > | > ID}.
| > | > | You
| > | > | > should have received some information related to that activity,
| > either
| > | > at
| > | > | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers
master
| > web
| > | > | pages
| > | > | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for
| > sure.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in
| > memory
| > | > which
| > | > | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related to
| > line
| > | > | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until expired
| > | > and/or
| > | > | > reset by the provider's server.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise whether
it
| > has
| > | > | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain new.
| > | > | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is
| > what
| > | > the
| > | > | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual
| > external
| > | > | address
| > | > | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Reference:
| > | > | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
| > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
| > | > | >
| > | > | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
| > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > | > | >
| > | > | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best
| > Practise
| > | > | > (#13449)
| > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB
| > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > | > | > _ _
| > | > | > ~~
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

[Santander]

Problem is that all ISP providers must follow directions of local criminal
agencies/bureau and provide them access to private information about their
customers and activity, and they do this, otherwise their business will be
screwed.. I know that this information used for blackmail and pursue peoples
for their political convictions, agents follow instructions of a political
management, but it's impossible to prove this.

S.


"MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
...
>
> "Santander" > wrote in message
> ...
> | well, the small ISP has much less customers, not hundreds of thousand.
> | I do not demand from them to allow me constantly change their network
> | configuration, I just worry about a privacy.
> |
> | S.
>
> We all worry about privacy.. the problem is, there never, really, was any
> privacy out on the Internet. Regardless of what you do to hide, once you
> connect with ANY part of the Internet's network, you have been identified.
> Go to a web site and its server pulls information. It has to, so it can
> provide you with what you asked for.
> It doesn't matter if you're behind a router or a NAT or a firewall or a
> proxy, they have an address or pass an address which becomes part of the
> sent IP packet... it can't change... UNLESS both the sender and the
> receiver
> run some kind of algorythm which *syncronizes IP generation on the fly*.
> The
> difficulty would be routing, it becomes a matter of WHERE and HOW to route
> the packets when there are so many nodes in between. Broadcast the new IP
> and you're once again identified. Fail to broadcast it, and the packet has
> no where to go and no way to get there, there is no destination. The
> packet
> dies within very short steps/hops, if it goes anywhere.
> For example: VPN creates a permanent LINK between computers and attempts
> to
> block outside access.
> Can you travel the Internet from within a VPN?
> WELLLLL, yeeeaaaaah, but one end must be a hosting server for the Internet
> access. It then becomes an attackable point into the VPN.
>
> As I have indicated before, EVERYTHING has a sending and receiving
> address,
> whether you are behind an anonymous server/service or not, the packet
> travels the web/network and MUST have a destination for the connection to
> exist... if the destination is discovered or monitored, or some software
> uses an already authorized connection or IP then where's the privacy and
> security.... just in your mind because it really doesn't exist.
> Of course this is just my interpretation of what goes on out here...
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
>
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | ...
> | >
> | >
> | > "Santander" > wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > | I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
> | > | normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for
> every
> | > | subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static in
> | > | conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big
> differences*.
> | > |
> | > | Santander
> | > | --------
> | > |
> | >
> | > Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can actually
> | > provide that answer.
> | >
> | > HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
> | > providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for
> individual
> | > customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find
> and
> | > block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
> | > auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP, then
> it
> | > would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their
> service.
> | > Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
> | > returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.
> | >
> | > When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had their
> own
> | > proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which transmitted
> | > identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There, re-assignment
> of
> | > IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses
> had
> to
> | > be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software,
> the
> | > adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
> | > NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
> | > permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and just
> like
> | > a
> | > network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know
> EXACTLY
> | > *what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your
> network
> | > you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit* that
> | > wireless access in *your network*.
> | > Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
> | > hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.
> | >
> | > Think of it like this:
> | > You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's
> | > server
> | > *directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with
> hundreds
> | > of
> | > thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks and
> | > servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see what
> I'm
> | > talking about here].
> | > How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide
> security
> | > for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you are
> who
> | > you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
> | > More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability
> to
> do
> | > what you want in THEIR network?
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB c-2008
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | >
> | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | >
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | > | ...
> | > | >
> | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> | > | > ...
> | > | > | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked online
> at
> | > IP
> | > | > | lookup web pages).
> | > | > | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac
> address,
> | > | > cable
> | > | > | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
> | > | > | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP
> WARNING -
> | > | > | Non-critical field invalid in response'
> | > | >
> | > | > Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
> | > | >
> | > | > | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
> | > | > | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface.
> "Baseline
> | > | > Privacy
> | > | > | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy across
> the
> | > | > cable
> | > | > | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM and
> | > CMTS."
> | > | > | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
> | > | > |
> http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
> | > | > |
> | > | > | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network
> Card
> | > | > similar
> | > | > as
> | > | > | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Santander
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
> | > | > http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
> | > | >
> | > | > Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
> | > | >
> | >
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
> | > | >
> | > | > Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing
> your
> | > MAC
> | > | > all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to your
> | > | > billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to
> provide
> | > you
> | > | > service.
> | > | >
> | > | > You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the cable
> | > modem
> | > | > for
> | > | > full effect.
> | > | > Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
> | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
> | > | >
> | > | > What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > | >
> | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> | > | > _ _
> | > | > ~~
> | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
> | > | > | ...
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
> | > | > | > ...
> | > | > | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static IP
> | > address
> | > | > | > option.
> | > | > | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then
> run
> | > | > winipcfg,
> | > | > | > do
> | > | > | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has
> not
> | > | > changed.
> | > | > | I
> | > | > | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where is
> the
> | > | > | problem?
> | > | > | > Is
> | > | > | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in
> | > conjunction
> | > | > with
> | > | > | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable
> Modem
> | > | > ID}.
> | > | > | You
> | > | > | > should have received some information related to that
> activity,
> | > either
> | > | > at
> | > | > | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers
> master
> | > web
> | > | > | pages
> | > | > | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out for
> | > sure.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in
> | > memory
> | > | > which
> | > | > | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related
> to
> | > line
> | > | > | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until
> expired
> | > | > and/or
> | > | > | > reset by the provider's server.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise
> whether
> it
> | > has
> | > | > | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain
> new.
> | > | > | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg is
> | > what
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual
> | > external
> | > | > | address
> | > | > | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Reference:
> | > | > | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
> | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
> | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best
> | > Practise
> | > | > | > (#13449)
> | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB
> | > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > | > | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> | > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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[MEB[_2_]]

Hmm, thought someone might jump in here...

This became important enough for a place on peoplescounsel blog.. sorry,,,
the reply is posted there...

http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!53EA9B092290EC45!1540.entry

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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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"Santander" > wrote in message
...
| Problem is that all ISP providers must follow directions of local criminal
| agencies/bureau and provide them access to private information about their
| customers and activity, and they do this, otherwise their business will be
| screwed.. I know that this information used for blackmail and pursue
peoples
| for their political convictions, agents follow instructions of a political
| management, but it's impossible to prove this.
|
| S.
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| ...
| >
| > "Santander" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | well, the small ISP has much less customers, not hundreds of thousand.
| > | I do not demand from them to allow me constantly change their network
| > | configuration, I just worry about a privacy.
| > |
| > | S.
| >
| > We all worry about privacy.. the problem is, there never, really, was
any
| > privacy out on the Internet. Regardless of what you do to hide, once you
| > connect with ANY part of the Internet's network, you have been
identified.
| > Go to a web site and its server pulls information. It has to, so it can
| > provide you with what you asked for.
| > It doesn't matter if you're behind a router or a NAT or a firewall or a
| > proxy, they have an address or pass an address which becomes part of the
| > sent IP packet... it can't change... UNLESS both the sender and the
| > receiver
| > run some kind of algorythm which *syncronizes IP generation on the fly*.
| > The
| > difficulty would be routing, it becomes a matter of WHERE and HOW to
route
| > the packets when there are so many nodes in between. Broadcast the new
IP
| > and you're once again identified. Fail to broadcast it, and the packet
has
| > no where to go and no way to get there, there is no destination. The
| > packet
| > dies within very short steps/hops, if it goes anywhere.
| > For example: VPN creates a permanent LINK between computers and attempts
| > to
| > block outside access.
| > Can you travel the Internet from within a VPN?
| > WELLLLL, yeeeaaaaah, but one end must be a hosting server for the
Internet
| > access. It then becomes an attackable point into the VPN.
| >
| > As I have indicated before, EVERYTHING has a sending and receiving
| > address,
| > whether you are behind an anonymous server/service or not, the packet
| > travels the web/network and MUST have a destination for the connection
to
| > exist... if the destination is discovered or monitored, or some software
| > uses an already authorized connection or IP then where's the privacy and
| > security.... just in your mind because it really doesn't exist.
| > Of course this is just my interpretation of what goes on out here...
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| >
| > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Santander" > wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > | I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
| > | > | normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for
| > every
| > | > | subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static
in
| > | > | conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big
| > differences*.
| > | > |
| > | > | Santander
| > | > | --------
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can
actually
| > | > provide that answer.
| > | >
| > | > HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
| > | > providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for
| > individual
| > | > customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find
| > and
| > | > block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
| > | > auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP,
then
| > it
| > | > would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their
| > service.
| > | > Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
| > | > returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.
| > | >
| > | > When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had
their
| > own
| > | > proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which
transmitted
| > | > identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There,
re-assignment
| > of
| > | > IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses
| > had
| > to
| > | > be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software,
| > the
| > | > adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
| > | > NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
| > | > permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and
just
| > like
| > | > a
| > | > network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know
| > EXACTLY
| > | > *what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your
| > network
| > | > you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit*
that
| > | > wireless access in *your network*.
| > | > Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
| > | > hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.
| > | >
| > | > Think of it like this:
| > | > You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's
| > | > server
| > | > *directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with
| > hundreds
| > | > of
| > | > thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks
and
| > | > servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see
what
| > I'm
| > | > talking about here].
| > | > How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide
| > security
| > | > for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you
are
| > who
| > | > you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
| > | > More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability
| > to
| > do
| > | > what you want in THEIR network?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB c-2008
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | >
| > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > | > _ _
| > | > ~~
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | > | ...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > | > | > ...
| > | > | > | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked
online
| > at
| > | > IP
| > | > | > | lookup web pages).
| > | > | > | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac
| > address,
| > | > | > cable
| > | > | > | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
| > | > | > | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP
| > WARNING -
| > | > | > | Non-critical field invalid in response'
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
| > | > | > | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface.
| > "Baseline
| > | > | > Privacy
| > | > | > | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy
across
| > the
| > | > | > cable
| > | > | > | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM
and
| > | > CMTS."
| > | > | > | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
| > | > | > |
| > http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/specs/CM-SP-BPI+_I12-050812.pdf
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network
| > Card
| > | > | > similar
| > | > | > as
| > | > | > | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Santander
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
| > | > | > http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A-MAC+address+changer&btnG=Google+Search
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing
| > your
| > | > MAC
| > | > | > all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to
your
| > | > | > billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to
| > provide
| > | > you
| > | > | > service.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the
cable
| > | > modem
| > | > | > for
| > | > | > full effect.
| > | > | > Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB
| > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > | > | > _ _
| > | > | > ~~
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not > wrote in message
| > | > | > | ...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "SANTANDER" > wrote in message
| > | > | > | > ...
| > | > | > | > | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static
IP
| > | > address
| > | > | > | > option.
| > | > | > | > | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then
| > run
| > | > | > winipcfg,
| > | > | > | > do
| > | > | > | > | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has
| > not
| > | > | > changed.
| > | > | > | I
| > | > | > | > | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where
is
| > the
| > | > | > | problem?
| > | > | > | > Is
| > | > | > | > | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in
| > | > conjunction
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable
| > Modem
| > | > | > ID}.
| > | > | > | You
| > | > | > | > should have received some information related to that
| > activity,
| > | > either
| > | > | > at
| > | > | > | > signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers
| > master
| > | > web
| > | > | > | pages
| > | > | > | > for that information, or use the help/support to find out
for
| > | > sure.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in
| > | > memory
| > | > | > which
| > | > | > | > will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related
| > to
| > | > line
| > | > | > | > problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until
| > expired
| > | > | > and/or
| > | > | > | > reset by the provider's server.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise
| > whether
| > it
| > | > has
| > | > | > | > static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain
| > new.
| > | > | > | > Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg
is
| > | > what
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual
| > | > external
| > | > | > | address
| > | > | > | > may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Reference:
| > | > | > | > How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
| > | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
| > | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best
| > | > Practise
| > | > | > | > (#13449)
| > | > | > | > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB
| > | > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > | > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > | > | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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