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josef

October 12th 08, 06:58 PM

I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update MS
had? Is there an all in one service pack?

philo

October 12th 08, 07:10 PM

"josef" > wrote in message
...
> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
MS
> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>
>

No all in one service pack through Microsoft,
though there is an unofficial one out there that rolls up a number of them.

However you should still be able to update by going to the update site

it should be right there on the top of your "start" menu

BTW: the first thing to do would be to install a virus checker,
next upgrade your browser to IE6

josef

October 12th 08, 07:19 PM

Thanks I haven't used this old clunker in a while and I need to clean out
all the dust bunnies first.
"philo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "josef" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
> MS
>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>>
>>
>
> No all in one service pack through Microsoft,
> though there is an unofficial one out there that rolls up a number of
> them.
>
> However you should still be able to update by going to the update site
>
> it should be right there on the top of your "start" menu
>
>
> BTW: the first thing to do would be to install a virus checker,
> next upgrade your browser to IE6
>
>

philo

October 12th 08, 08:37 PM

"josef" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks I haven't used this old clunker in a while and I need to clean out
> all the dust bunnies first.

I always take the machines outside when I do that

There is enough dust in my workshop as it is

> "philo" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "josef" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
update
> > MS
> >> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No all in one service pack through Microsoft,
> > though there is an unofficial one out there that rolls up a number of
> > them.
> >
> > However you should still be able to update by going to the update site
> >
> > it should be right there on the top of your "start" menu
> >
> >
> > BTW: the first thing to do would be to install a virus checker,
> > next upgrade your browser to IE6
> >
> >
>
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]

October 12th 08, 08:54 PM

1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6

TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable your
anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
installing.

2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

josef wrote:
> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
> MS
> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

Dan

October 12th 08, 10:05 PM

Josef, the only update that I really do not like that is offered for Windows
98 is the one that checks for updates all the time and is really annoying and
at least for me set a check of every 5 minutes for an update and so I just
removed it because it was not needed especially now that Microsoft support
ended for Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition as well as ME on July 11, 2006.
You will not have a problem if you go ahead and follow Robear's steps because
his advice is almost always great.

"josef" wrote:

> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update MS
> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>
>
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]

October 12th 08, 10:48 PM

[The Windows Critical Update Notification utility is not offered as a
critical security update at Windows Update and is no longer supported
anyway; cf. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224420.]

Dan wrote:
> Josef, the only update that I really do not like that is offered for
> Windows
> 98 is the one that checks for updates all the time and is really annoying
> and at least for me set a check of every 5 minutes for an update and so I
> just removed it because it was not needed especially now that Microsoft
> support ended for Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition as well as ME on July
> 11, 2006. You will not have a problem if you go ahead and follow Robear's
> steps because his advice is almost always great.
>
> "josef" wrote:
>
>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
>> MS had? Is there an all in one service pack?

Buffalo

October 12th 08, 11:27 PM

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
> manually:
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>
> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
> your anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice
> after installing.

Shouldn't he turn his anti-virus before step 2???

>
> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install,
> if offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>
> josef wrote:
>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>> update MS
>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

PA Bear [MS MVP]

October 12th 08, 11:47 PM

Yes.

Buffalo wrote:
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>> manually:
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>
>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>> your anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice
>> after installing.
>
> Shouldn't he turn his anti-virus before step 2???
>
>>
>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install,
>> if offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>
>> josef wrote:
>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>> update MS
>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

Dan

October 13th 08, 12:08 AM

Thanks for the Microsoft web-site article on the Windows Critical Update
Notification utility Robear and I certainly appreciate the information.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [The Windows Critical Update Notification utility is not offered as a
> critical security update at Windows Update and is no longer supported
> anyway; cf. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224420.]
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Josef, the only update that I really do not like that is offered for
> > Windows
> > 98 is the one that checks for updates all the time and is really annoying
> > and at least for me set a check of every 5 minutes for an update and so I
> > just removed it because it was not needed especially now that Microsoft
> > support ended for Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition as well as ME on July
> > 11, 2006. You will not have a problem if you go ahead and follow Robear's
> > steps because his advice is almost always great.
> >
> > "josef" wrote:
> >
> >> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
> >> MS had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>
>

thanatoid

October 13th 08, 05:59 AM

"josef" > wrote in
:

> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to
> the last update MS had? Is there an all in one service
> pack?

http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

thanatoid

October 13th 08, 05:59 AM

"Buffalo" > wrote in
:

> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then
>> install it manually:
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1
> 550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>
>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet
>> and disable your anti-virus application BEFORE installing
>> IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after installing.

Love it. Nothing like admitting IE is nothing but badly-written
spyware with an ugly butt (excuse me, backdoor).

Figures the Hairy One would author this piece of wisdom.

<SNIP>

--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

PA Bear [MS MVP]

October 13th 08, 06:35 AM

thanatoid wrote:
> "Buffalo" > wrote in
> :
>
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then
>>> install it manually:
>>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1
>> 550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>
>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet
>>> and disable your anti-virus application BEFORE installing
>>> IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after installing.
>
> Love it. Nothing like admitting IE is nothing but badly-written
> spyware with an ugly butt (excuse me, backdoor).

You've got the wrong end of the stick (again): The AV apps are the problem,
not IE and not Windows. They have a tendency to disallow the changes being
made during an IE upgrade (which, in essence, is really a Windows upgrade).

Dan

October 13th 08, 06:57 PM

Since, this service pack is unofficial then do you really trust it thanatoid?
Do you use the service pack on your 98 Second Edition system?

"thanatoid" wrote:

> "josef" > wrote in
> :
>
> > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to
> > the last update MS had? Is there an all in one service
> > pack?
>
> http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
>
>
> --
> Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
> votes decide everything.
> - Josef Stalin
>

philo

October 14th 08, 12:06 PM

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Since, this service pack is unofficial then do you really trust it
thanatoid?
> Do you use the service pack on your 98 Second Edition system?
>
> "thanatoid" wrote:
>
> > "josef" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to
> > > the last update MS had? Is there an all in one service
> > > pack?
> >
> > http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
> >
> >

I have used the unofficial service pack with no problems...
it simply contains a number of MS updates all rolled into one installer.

However, there will be many add'll updates needed...

Dan

October 15th 08, 06:54 PM

Thanks for letting me know, philo. I appreciate it.

"philo" wrote:

>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Since, this service pack is unofficial then do you really trust it
> thanatoid?
> > Do you use the service pack on your 98 Second Edition system?
> >
> > "thanatoid" wrote:
> >
> > > "josef" > wrote in
> > > :
> > >
> > > > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to
> > > > the last update MS had? Is there an all in one service
> > > > pack?
> > >
> > > http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
> > >
> > >
>
>
> I have used the unofficial service pack with no problems...
> it simply contains a number of MS updates all rolled into one installer.
>
> However, there will be many add'll updates needed...
>
>
>

KenB

December 1st 08, 04:31 PM

When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems way
to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?

If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
came with the original Win 98?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
> manually:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>
> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable your
> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
> installing.
>
> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> josef wrote:
> > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last update
> > MS
> > had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]

December 1st 08, 05:29 PM

That's merely the size of the installer (IE6SETUP.EXE). When you use it
(connected to the internet), the total size of the full download may be as
large as 77.5 MB, depending on what components you choose to install (e.g.,
Outlook Express; various IMEs).

KenB wrote:
> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems
> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>
> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
> came with the original Win 98?
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>> manually:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>
>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>> your
>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>> installing.
>>
>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> josef wrote:
>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>> update
>>> MS
>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

MEB[_2_]

December 1st 08, 05:56 PM

That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
aspects you want to install.

IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser like
Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support JAVA
and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its access
to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with large file
deletes and manipulations. IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however, it
does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
Scripting.
If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
last/most recent).

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~
"KenB" > wrote in message
...
| When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems
way
| to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
|
| If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
| came with the original Win 98?
|
|
| "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
|
| > 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
| > manually:
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
| >
| > TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
your
| > anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
| > installing.
| >
| > 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
| > offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
| > --
| > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
| >
| > josef wrote:
| > > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
update
| > > MS
| > > had? Is there an all in one service pack?
| >
| >

KenB

December 1st 08, 06:00 PM

Is there any place to download the 'full' 77 MB file?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> That's merely the size of the installer (IE6SETUP.EXE). When you use it
> (connected to the internet), the total size of the full download may be as
> large as 77.5 MB, depending on what components you choose to install (e.g.,
> Outlook Express; various IMEs).
>
> KenB wrote:
> > When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems
> > way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
> >
> > If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
> > came with the original Win 98?
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
> >> manually:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
> >>
> >> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
> >> your
> >> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
> >> installing.
> >>
> >> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
> >> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >>
> >> josef wrote:
> >>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
> >>> update
> >>> MS
> >>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>
>

PA Bear [MS MVP]

December 1st 08, 08:55 PM

Excuse me but...

1. MS considered IE6 SP1 a "critical update" for Win9x:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.browser/msg/5024b07f15bf6e52

2. If Win98 has been reinstalled, the machine cannot be fully patched at
Windows Update unless and until IE6 SP1 has been installed. Unlike Opera or
FF, IE is part and parcel of the OS. If IE isn't as secure as possible,
Windows won't be either.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

MEB wrote:
> That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
> aspects you want to install.
>
> IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
> Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
> vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser like
> Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support
> JAVA
> and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its access
> to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with large file
> deletes and manipulations. IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however, it
> does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
> Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
> unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
> Scripting.
> If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
> last/most recent).
>
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
> "KenB" > wrote in message
> ...
>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems
>> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>
>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
>> came with the original Win 98?
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>>> manually:
>>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>
>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>>> your
>>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>>> installing.
>>>
>>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
>>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>> josef wrote:
>>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>>> update
>>>> MS
>>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

PA Bear [MS MVP]

December 1st 08, 08:57 PM

No, but you may still be able to order it on CD (US &CA only):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx

KenB wrote:
> Is there any place to download the 'full' 77 MB file?
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> That's merely the size of the installer (IE6SETUP.EXE). When you use it
>> (connected to the internet), the total size of the full download may be
>> as
>> large as 77.5 MB, depending on what components you choose to install
>> (e.g.,
>> Outlook Express; various IMEs).
>>
>> KenB wrote:
>>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that
>>> seems
>>> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>>
>>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4
>>> that
>>> came with the original Win 98?
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>>>> manually:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>>
>>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>>>> your
>>>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>>>> installing.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
>>>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>
>>>> josef wrote:
>>>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>>>> update
>>>>> MS
>>>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

Bill in Co.

December 1st 08, 09:09 PM

MEB wrote:
> That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
> aspects you want to install.
>
> IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
> Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
> vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser like
> Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support
> JAVA and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its
> access
> to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with large file
> deletes and manipulations.

Not necessarily. That particular problem was easily resolved with swapping
out those 2 browse DLL files (using the IE5.5 versions) - no problemo. So
at least for me, IE6 SP1 or 2 works great, although I also have some other
browsers installed too.

> IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however, it
> does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
> Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
> unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
> Scripting.
> If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
> last/most recent).
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
> "KenB" > wrote in message
> ...
>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems
>> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>
>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that
>> came with the original Win 98?
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>>> manually:
>>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>
>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>>> your
>>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>>> installing.
>>>
>>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install, if
>>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>> josef wrote:
>>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>>> update
>>>> MS had? Is there an all in one service pack?

MEB[_2_]

December 1st 08, 10:53 PM

Okay, but you will have to admit that those updates you are referring to,
relate to IE6 and NOT the OS per se... a SUPPORTED browser has its own
installations and corrections to many of the issues from Microsoft
vulnerabilities.

On the other side; without installing IE 6, many programs will not install
or will not work properly as some of those files are necessary within those
programs.

Therefore, without installing IE6 you negate the issues related to its
usage and the FACT that is has not been updated on 9X since 2006 OR after
installing, by blocking its usage via the Firewall... considering then
fully, the number of CRITICAL updates installed in the supported OSs for IE6
since April 2006 [which are dozens]....

So your correct on one hand but fail to address the issues related
thereafter...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
_ _
~~
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
| Excuse me but...
|
| 1. MS considered IE6 SP1 a "critical update" for Win9x:
|
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.browser/msg/5024b07f15bf6e52
|
| 2. If Win98 has been reinstalled, the machine cannot be fully patched at
| Windows Update unless and until IE6 SP1 has been installed. Unlike Opera
or
| FF, IE is part and parcel of the OS. If IE isn't as secure as possible,
| Windows won't be either.
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
|
|
| MEB wrote:
| > That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
| > aspects you want to install.
| >
| > IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
| > Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
| > vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser
like
| > Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support
| > JAVA
| > and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its
access
| > to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with large file
| > deletes and manipulations. IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however,
it
| > does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
| > Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
| > unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
| > Scripting.
| > If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
| > last/most recent).
| >
| >
| > Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
| > _ _
| > ~~
| > "KenB" > wrote in message
| > ...
| >> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that
seems
| >> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
| >>
| >> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4
that
| >> came with the original Win 98?
| >>
| >>
| >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
| >>
| >>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
| >>> manually:
| >>>
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
| >>>
| >>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
| >>> your
| >>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
| >>> installing.
| >>>
| >>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install,
if
| >>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
| >>> --
| >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| >>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
| >>>
| >>> josef wrote:
| >>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
| >>>> update
| >>>> MS
| >>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?
|

MEB[_2_]

December 1st 08, 10:53 PM

Bill in Co.

December 1st 08, 10:58 PM

I don't think it was. Was it even asked for? (But it's been discussed at
length in here before - one can research it if one is interested).

MEB wrote:
> Ah, okay, so where was that information supplied for this querier???
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>> MEB wrote:
>>> That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
>>> aspects you want to install.
>>>
>>> IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
>>> Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
>>> vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser
>>> like
>>> Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support
>>> JAVA and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its
>>> access to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with
>>> large file
>>> deletes and manipulations.
>>
>> Not necessarily. That particular problem was easily resolved with
>> swapping
>> out those 2 browse DLL files (using the IE5.5 versions) - no problemo.
> So
>> at least for me, IE6 SP1 or 2 works great, although I also have some
>> other
>> browsers installed too.
>>
>>> IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however, it
>>> does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
>>> Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
>>> unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
>>> Scripting.
>>> If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
>>> last/most recent).
>>>
>>> --
>>> MEB
>>> http://peoplescounsel.org
>>> a Peoples' counsel
>>>
>>> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
>>> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
>>> _ _
>>> ~~
>>> "KenB" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that
>>>> seems
>>>> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>>>
>>>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4
>>>> that
>>>> came with the original Win 98?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>>>>> manually:
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>>>
>>>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>>>>> your
>>>>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>>>>> installing.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install,
>>>>> if
>>>>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> josef wrote:
>>>>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> MS had? Is there an all in one service pack?

PA Bear [MS MVP]

December 2nd 08, 12:21 AM

> Okay, but you will have to admit that those updates you are referring to,
> relate to IE6 and NOT the OS per se...

Nope. Again, IE is part and parcel of the OS. You cannot separate the two.

The fact that Win9x hasn't been supported since July 2006 is pertinent, too.

MEB wrote:
> Okay, but you will have to admit that those updates you are referring to,
> relate to IE6 and NOT the OS per se... a SUPPORTED browser has its own
> installations and corrections to many of the issues from Microsoft
> vulnerabilities.
>
> On the other side; without installing IE 6, many programs will not install
> or will not work properly as some of those files are necessary within
> those
> programs.
>
> Therefore, without installing IE6 you negate the issues related to its
> usage and the FACT that is has not been updated on 9X since 2006 OR after
> installing, by blocking its usage via the Firewall... considering then
> fully, the number of CRITICAL updates installed in the supported OSs for
> IE6
> since April 2006 [which are dozens]....
>
> So your correct on one hand but fail to address the issues related
> thereafter...
>
>
> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> _ _
> ~~
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Excuse me but...
>>
>> 1. MS considered IE6 SP1 a "critical update" for Win9x:
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.browser/msg/5024b07f15bf6e52
>>
>> 2. If Win98 has been reinstalled, the machine cannot be fully patched at
>> Windows Update unless and until IE6 SP1 has been installed. Unlike Opera
>> or FF, IE is part and parcel of the OS. If IE isn't as secure as
>> possible,
>> Windows won't be either.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> MEB wrote:
>>> That's the stub installer for Internet usage. Run that and choose what
>>> aspects you want to install.
>>>
>>> IE 6 is NOT recommended for usage within the Win9X environment on the
>>> Internet. Too many updates have been issued relating to flaws and
>>> vulnerabilities since End of Support of 9X. Pick a supported browser
>>> like
>>> Firefox or Opera, or use a LIMITED browser [one which does not support
>>> JAVA
>>> and Flash]. IF you install it, it might be wise to then disable its
>>> access
>>> to the Internet in your Firewall. IE6 does cause issues with large file
>>> deletes and manipulations. IE 5.5 does not have those issues, however,
>>> it
>>> does have vulnerabilities that were addressed in IE 6 SP1.
>>> Disable or uninstall Adobe Reader [PDF], Apple QuickTime [basically now
>>> unused], RealPlayer, and either limit and monitor, or disable Windows
>>> Scripting.
>>> If JAVA is necessary use Sun's Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_16-b02 is the
>>> last/most recent).
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
>>> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
>>> _ _
>>> ~~
>>> "KenB" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that
>>>> seems
>>>> way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>>>
>>>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4
>>>> that
>>>> came with the original Win 98?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Download IE6 SP1 (SAVE, do not RUN, the download) then install it
>>>>> manually:
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
>>>>>
>>>>> TIP: Physically disconnect your machine from the internet and disable
>>>>> your
>>>>> anti-virus application BEFORE installing IE6 SP1. Reboot twice after
>>>>> installing.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com | Select CUSTOM install,
>>>>> if
>>>>> offered | Install any/all criticial security updates offered.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> josef wrote:
>>>>>> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> MS
>>>>>> had? Is there an all in one service pack?

J. P. Gilliver (John)

December 2nd 08, 01:25 AM

In message >, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> writes:
>Excuse me but...
>
>1. MS considered IE6 SP1 a "critical update" for Win9x:
>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5
>5.browser/msg/5024b07f15bf6e52
>
>2. If Win98 has been reinstalled, the machine cannot be fully patched
>at Windows Update unless and until IE6 SP1 has been installed. Unlike
>Opera or FF, IE is part and parcel of the OS. If IE isn't as secure as
>possible, Windows won't be either.

Although all sorts of things sulk if IE isn't present (though those
HTML-type help files - .chm is it? - will still work if you just have
two of the .dll files), IE is _not_ quite as integral to the OS as we
are always being told; 98lite - or just their IEradicator - will remove
it completely, still leaving a functioning OS.

(MS people tend to bring out the garlic and crucifixes when you mention
98lite, though.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Bother," said Pooh, as Eeyore sneezed the crack all over Owl.

MEB[_2_]

December 2nd 08, 02:32 AM

whoa neddy

December 2nd 08, 07:29 AM

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:21:24 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" >
wrote:

>> Okay, but you will have to admit that those updates you are referring to,
>> relate to IE6 and NOT the OS per se...
>
>Nope. Again, IE is part and parcel of the OS. You cannot separate the two.

(snip rest)

I have a text book here which explains exactly how to separate the I from IE so
that 98 and Windows Explorer still function but IE is neutered. And it also
details how - if one is inclined to forego WinExploder - the total of IE can be
excised.

teebo

December 3rd 08, 12:37 AM

> I have a text book here which explains exactly how to separate the I
> from IE
> so that 98 and Windows Explorer still function but IE is neutered. And it
> also details how - if one is inclined to forego WinExploder - the total
> of
> IE can be excised.

it can be interesting to read that book, can you scan it and put it
somewhere for me to read?
I have always used 98Lite to install win98 without internet explorer
but would prefer to know how to do it myself manually.

thanatoid

December 3rd 08, 04:51 AM

=?Utf-8?B?S2VuQg==?= > wrote
in :

> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481
> KB - that seems way to small for this program. Am I really
> getting what I need?

Depending on their degree of what some call "paranoia" and
others "being aware", people will either say it's the
"downloader" and you get to choose which parts of the IE package
you want when you use it to download and run it's exe's /while/
online (ALWAYS a good idea ;-), or they will say it's yet
another sneaky way for MS to get into your computer and make
sure it's kosher by /their/ standards.

Anyway, anyone who uses IE/OE is out of their mind.

> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade
> to the IE4 that came with the original Win 98?

See above sentence.

<SNIP>

--
"May you live in interesting times."
(curse, origin disputed)

thanatoid

December 3rd 08, 04:51 AM

"josef" > wrote in
:

> I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to
> the last update MS had? Is there an all in one service
> pack?

http://exuberant.ms11.net

I also strongly suggest going to
http://www.litepc.com/download.html and getting their IE
Eradicator (free) - or at least /never/ using IE except for chm
files.

--
"May you live in interesting times."
(curse, origin disputed)

teebo

December 11th 08, 07:07 PM

not that I would use internet explorer anyway, but it would be interesting
to know what prevents InternetExplorer6.0SP2 to work in win98?
(besides that SP2 doesn't exist and of some strange reason really
named "Security Version 1")

> Just in case someone in the future want to download internet explorer 6.0 sp1
> file by file (and this post should hopefully help archive.org archivate them)
> I push the links here...
> (Files that differ from the zip (new version 1411 instead of 1106) is noted after)
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ADVAUTH.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/AOLSUPP.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/BRANDING.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/GSETUP95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/GSETUPNT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/HELPCONT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IECIF.CAB (iesetup.cif)
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEDATA.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEMIL_1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEMIL_2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEMIL_3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEMIL_4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEW2K_1.CAB (dummy.cat, ieexcep.cat, ieexcep.inf)
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEW2K_2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEW2K_3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IEW2K_4.CAB (vgx.dll)
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/IE_EXTRA.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/MOBILE95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/MOBILENT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/OEEXCEP.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/actsetup.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/axa.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/axa3.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/crlupd.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/fontcore.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/fontsup.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/hhupd.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/icw.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/icwcon.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie4shlnt.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s5.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie_s6.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ieak6opt.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/iedom.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ieexinst.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkad.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkar.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkiw.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkja.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkko.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkpe.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkth.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkvi.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkzhc.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ielpkzht.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s5.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ient_s6.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/jaaime.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/koaime.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/mailnews.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/mpcdcs.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/mplay2a.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/mplay2u.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/mplayer2.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/oainst.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/readme.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/scaime.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/scr56en.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/scripten.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/setupnt.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/setupw95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/swflash.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/tcaime.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ts95.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/tsnt.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/usp10.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/vgx.cab (vgx.cat, vgx.dll, vgx.inf)
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/wab.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ieak6.exe
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ieak6cd.exe
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie6setup.exe (ie6wzd.exe, iesetup.cif)
ie6oem.exe, iesetup.ini, readme.txt missing
>
>
> the same files for another language:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ADVAUTH.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/AOLSUPP.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/BRANDING.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/GSETUP95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/GSETUPNT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/HELPCONT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IECIF.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEDATA.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEMIL_1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEMIL_2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEMIL_3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEMIL_4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEW2K_1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEW2K_2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEW2K_3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IEW2K_4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/IE_EXTRA.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/MOBILE95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/MOBILENT.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/OEEXCEP.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/actsetup.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/crlupd.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/icw.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/icwcon.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie4shlnt.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s5.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie_s6.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ieak6opt.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/iedom.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ieexinst.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s1.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s2.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s3.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s4.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s5.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ient_s6.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/mailnews.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/mplay2a.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/mplay2u.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/mplayer2.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/oainst.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/readme.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/setupnt.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/setupw95.CAB
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ts95.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/tsnt.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/wab.cab
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ieak6.exe
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ieak6cd.exe
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ie6setup.exe
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/axa.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/axa3.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/fontcore.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/fontsup.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/hhupd.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkad.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkar.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkiw.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkja.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkko.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkpe.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkth.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkvi.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkzhc.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/ielpkzht.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/jaaime.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/koaime.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/mpcdcs.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/scaime.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/swflash.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/tcaime.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/usp10.cab [same as english]
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_SP1/W98NT42KMeXP/SV/vgx.cab [same as english]
ie6oem.exe, iesetup.ini, readme.txt, scr56en.cab, scripten.cab missing
>
>
>>> When I download that IE6 SP1 - the file I get is only 481 KB - that seems way to small for this program. Am I really getting what I need?
>>
>> microsoft's stupid way of downloading the full version
>> seems to be by running the downloaderinstaller on another computer
>> (or a virtual machine?) and ask it to not install, but just download instead:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257249/EN-US/
>> they are of some reason bent on forcing you to run their downloader...
>>
>> so if you have downloaded ie6setup.exe to C:\iesucks\ you should run this:
>> C:\iesucks\ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d:1 /s:""C:\iesucks\ie6setup.exe"""
>>
>> or skip that **** and download it from somewhere else instead....
>> ftp://ftp.cuhk.edu.hk/pub/packages/info-systems/www/msie/6.0sp1/
>> ftp://ftp.qut.edu.au/pub/mirrors/microsoft/patches/internet-explorer/6.0sp1/
>> ftp://ftp.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/_Windows/Microsoft_Internet_Explorer/ie_6_incl_servicepack/sp1_multi_os_englisch/
>>
>> Alternatively you could download all the files one at a time from
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/
>> perhaps using archive org to know what the filenames are
>> http://web.archive.org/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/*
>>
>> But now to the important question, what softwares do requires MSIE ?
>> it would be nice to have a little list so we could find a way to
>> work around that.
>> Let's unite for a InternetExplorer-free world!
>>
>>> If I have IE 5 on a CD - would that be a 'decent' upgrade to the IE4 that came with the original Win 98?
>>
>> no version of internet explorer is decent :-)
>>
>>>> > I have win98 original. I re installed. How do I update to the last > update MS had? Is there an all in one service pack?
>>
>> yes. since you are using win98firstedition and not win98se, I assume
>> that win98 Service Pack 2.5.2 is the thing you are looking for:
>> http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#982
>>
>> If you *do* taint your windows with internetexplorer, then you should
>> perhaps allso install the patches for it with "OLD IE 6.0 SP1 Updater IE6UPD" http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm#UPD
>>
>>
>> Now for a question I have about IE6sp1:
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> the version from ftp.rz.uni-frankfurt don't have all the files
>> that the others have (but instead it have these four files:
>> filelist.dat, iesetup.dir, This folder is safe to delete.txt)
>>
>> actsetup.CAB "Active Setup"?
>> axa.cab, axa3.cab "ActiveXAnimation/DirectAnimation" what is this?
>> ie4shlnt.cab "NT4 shell web integration"
>> ie6oem.exe "Hardware Vendor Channel"
>> ieak6.exe, ieak6cd.exe, ieak6opt.CAB "InternetExplorer6 Administration Kit"
>> IECIF.CAB (iesetup.cif)
>> ielpkar.cab "Arabic Text Support"
>> ielpkiw.cab "Hebrew Text Support"
>> ielpkja.cab "Japanese Text Display Support"
>> ielpkko.cab "Korean Text Display Support"
>> ielpkpe.cab "Pan-European Text Display Support"
>> ielpkth.cab "Thai Text Support"
>> ielpkvi.cab "Vietnamese Text Support"
>> ielpkzhc.cab "Chinese (Simplified) Text Display Support"
>> ielpkzht.cab "Chinese (Traditional) Text Display Support"
>> jaaime.cab "Japanese Text Input Support"
>> koaime.cab "Korean Text Input Support"
>> scaime.cab "Chinese (Simplified) Text Input Support"
>> tcaime.cab "Chinese (Traditional) Text Input Support"
>> usp10.cab "Uniscribe - (Arabic, Hebrew, Thai, etc)"
>> readme.txt
>>
>> It allso have a different iesetup.ini with these [Options]:
>> Language=0409
>> Shell_Integration=0
>> Win95=6.0.2800.1106
>> Millen=6.0.2800.1106
>> NTx86=6.0.2800.1106
>> W2K=6.0.2800.1106
>> NTalpha=0
>>
>> instead of:
>> IELiteMode=0
>> ConfirmFileList=0
>> Shell_Integration=1
>>
>> and a long [Downloaded Files] section.
>>
>> the "Shell_Integration=0" sounds nice to me... :-)
>> perhaps it is a better one?
>>
>> (as long as you don't need ActiveXanimation, AdministrationKit, Arabic, Hebrew, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese etc)