Posting In The Future?

[glee]

Yes, you are posting 12 hours ahead here also, in both your post and the reply to
yourself....8:40 AM tomorrow.
Make sure you really do have your computer set to PM and not AM.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"DaffyD®" > wrote in message
...
> According to the guys in the Windows 2000 general newsgroup, my posts are
> apparently dated 12 hours ahead. I'm showing that as I write this, the time
> is 8:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time. My posts in Outlook Express also
> correspond to my time. Can anyone tell me the date/time stamp for this post
> in this newsgroup? I'm also going to post this on the msnews.microsoft.com
> server as well.
> --
> DaffyD®
>
> If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.
>
>

[Bill in Co.]

You post here (which just came in) is dated 07:27 AM tomorrow morning (i.e,
Thursday, Sept 18)!! (As I write this it is 11 PM, on Wednesday nite,
Sept 17)

DaffyD® wrote:
> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
> fine.
> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> date/time
> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply
> was
> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing the
> opposite of what you see?
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yes, you are posting 12 hours ahead here also, in both your post and the
>> reply to yourself....8:40 AM tomorrow.
>> Make sure you really do have your computer set to PM and not AM.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> According to the guys in the Windows 2000 general newsgroup, my posts
>>> are
>>> apparently dated 12 hours ahead. I'm showing that as I write this, the
>>> time
>>> is 8:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time. My posts in Outlook Express also
>>> correspond to my time. Can anyone tell me the date/time stamp for this
>>> post
>>> in this newsgroup? I'm also going to post this on the
>>> msnews.microsoft.com
>>> server as well.
>>> --
>>> DaffyD®
>>>
>>> If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks fine.
>I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the date/time
>properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
>strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply was
>posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing the
>opposite of what you see?

These are your original headers as I see them:

================================================== ==========
From: "DaffyD®" >
Subject: Posting In The Future?
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
Lines: 12
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
================================================== ==========

Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).

Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[remo]

"DaffyD®" > > > DaffyD®
> > >
> > > If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

take one thing to heart mister duck,, at least you are now 12hours ahead of yourself, and hence,
you dont need your sig/logo anymore.

tee hee.

[DaffyD®]

According to the guys in the Windows 2000 general newsgroup, my posts are
apparently dated 12 hours ahead. I'm showing that as I write this, the time
is 8:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time. My posts in Outlook Express also
correspond to my time. Can anyone tell me the date/time stamp for this post
in this newsgroup? I'm also going to post this on the msnews.microsoft.com
server as well.
--
DaffyD®

If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

[DaffyD®]

Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks fine.
I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the date/time
properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply was
posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing the
opposite of what you see?

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, you are posting 12 hours ahead here also, in both your post and the
reply to
> yourself....8:40 AM tomorrow.
> Make sure you really do have your computer set to PM and not AM.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > According to the guys in the Windows 2000 general newsgroup, my posts
are
> > apparently dated 12 hours ahead. I'm showing that as I write this, the
time
> > is 8:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time. My posts in Outlook Express also
> > correspond to my time. Can anyone tell me the date/time stamp for this
post
> > in this newsgroup? I'm also going to post this on the
msnews.microsoft.com
> > server as well.
> > --
> > DaffyD®
> >
> > If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.
> >
> >
>

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Check your headers:

<QP>
From: "DaffyD®" >
Subject: Posting In The Future?
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
</QP>

That last line should read "Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -0700" for PDT.


DaffyD® wrote:
> According to the guys in the Windows 2000 general newsgroup, my posts are
> apparently dated 12 hours ahead. I'm showing that as I write this, the
> time
> is 8:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time. My posts in Outlook Express also
> correspond to my time. Can anyone tell me the date/time stamp for this
> post
> in this newsgroup? I'm also going to post this on the
> msnews.microsoft.com
> server as well.

[Bill in Co.]

This one is also dated TOMORROW!

DaffyD® wrote:
> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
>>> fine.
>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>> date/time
>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply
>>> was
>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
>>> the
>>> opposite of what you see?
>>
>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>
>> ================================================== ==========
>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> Lines: 12
>> X-Priority: 3
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>> Message-ID: >
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>> ================================================== ==========
>>
>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>
>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> I'm going to send a reply to this and then follow it up with one
> containing
> the headers from the first email.
>
> DaffyD

[Bill in Co.]

And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.

DaffyD® wrote:
> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
>>> fine.
>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>> date/time
>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply
>>> was
>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
>>> the
>>> opposite of what you see?
>>
>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>
>> ================================================== ==========
>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> Lines: 12
>> X-Priority: 3
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>> Message-ID: >
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>> ================================================== ==========
>>
>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>
>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>
> From: "DaffyD®" >
> References: >
> >
> >
> >
> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> Lines: 51
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> Message-ID: >
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[DaffyD®]

How 'bout now?

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>
> >>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
> >>> fine.
> >>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >>> date/time
> >>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
What's
> >>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
> >>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
reply
> >>> was
> >>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
> >>> the
> >>> opposite of what you see?
> >>
> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>
> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> Lines: 12
> >> X-Priority: 3
> >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >> Message-ID: >
> >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> >> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> >> ================================================== ==========
> >>
> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >>
> >> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
> >>
> >> - Franc Zabkar
> >> --
> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >
> > Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >
> > From: "DaffyD®" >
> > References: >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> > Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> > Lines: 51
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> > Message-ID: >
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>
>

[Bill in Co.]

Now THAT is much better!! What did you do?

DaffyD® wrote:
> How 'bout now?
>
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>
>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>
>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>> date/time
>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>> What's
>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>> reply
>>>>> was
>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
>>>>> the
>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>
>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>> Lines: 12
>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>
>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>
>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>> --
>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>
>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>
>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>> References: >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>> Lines: 51
>>> X-Priority: 3
>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>> Message-ID: >
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...

>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>
>> ================================================== ==========
>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> ================================================== ==========
>>
>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>
>Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:

>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600

You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
double-click the clock in the Systray?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>How 'bout now?

Your headers still show GMT - 16 hours.

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600

Did you push back your system time instead of adjusting your time
zone?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
fine.
> >I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
date/time
> >properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
> >strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
> >stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply
was
> >posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing the
> >opposite of what you see?
>
> These are your original headers as I see them:
>
> ================================================== ==========
> From: "DaffyD®" >
> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> Lines: 12
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> Message-ID: >
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> ================================================== ==========
>
> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>
> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

I'm going to send a reply to this and then follow it up with one containing
the headers from the first email.

DaffyD

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
fine.
> >I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
date/time
> >properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
> >strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
> >stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your reply
was
> >posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing the
> >opposite of what you see?
>
> These are your original headers as I see them:
>
> ================================================== ==========
> From: "DaffyD®" >
> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> Lines: 12
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> Message-ID: >
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> ================================================== ==========
>
> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>
> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:

From: "DaffyD®" >
References: >
>
>
>
Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
Lines: 51
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<QP>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
</QP>

Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
something's still wrong. What did you do?

UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.

You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be UTC -0700
for PDT currently).
--
~PA Bear


DaffyD® wrote:
> How 'bout now?
>
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>
>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>
>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>> date/time
>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>> What's
>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>> reply
>>>>> was
>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
>>>>> the
>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>
>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>
>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>> Lines: 12
>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>
>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>
>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>> --
>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>
>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>
>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>> References: >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>> Lines: 51
>>> X-Priority: 3
>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>> Message-ID: >
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[Bill in Co.]

I just checked only the post's date & time, so maybe like you say he's still
got a problem.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> <QP>
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
> </QP>
>
> Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
> something's still wrong. What did you do?
>
> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>
> You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be UTC -0700
> for PDT currently).
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
>> How 'bout now?
>>
>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>>
>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>>> date/time
>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>>> What's
>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>>> reply
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>>
>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>>
>>>>> ================================================== =====
>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>>> Lines: 12
>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>>> ================================================== =====
>>>>>
>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>>> --
>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>>
>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>> References: >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>>> Lines: 51
>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
<snip>
> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.

And if you were, in fact, in WA and your date was correct, the UTC offset
(right now) would be +0800
--
~PA Bear

[Alan Edwards]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:39:33 -0400, in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:

>PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
><snip>
>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>
>And if you were, in fact, in WA and your date was correct, the UTC offset
>(right now) would be +0800

That's better.
AFAIK, there is no such thing as UTC -1600, despite it showing in his
headers.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Alan Edwards wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
>>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>>
>> And if you were, in fact, in WA and your date was correct, the UTC offset
>> (right now) would be +0800
>
> That's better.

On second thought, I figured some clarification might be in order there.
<eg>

> AFAIK, there is no such thing as UTC -1600, despite it showing in his
> headers.

I was thinking the same thing, Alan. How those headers are showing
UTC -1600 remains a mystery to me.
--
~R

[Bill in Co.]

I'm using Dimension 4 (D4) too, but I don't have that same problem. (If
IT is throwing your clock off by 9 hours, that sounds pretty weird).

DaffyD® wrote:
> I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
> clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
> deleted the program.
>
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Now THAT is much better!! What did you do?
>>
>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>> How 'bout now?
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>>>
>>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>> >>>>>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>>>> date/time
>>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>>>> What's
>>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>>>> Lines: 12
>>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>> References: >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>>>> Lines: 51
>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>
> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> ================================================== ==========
> >>
> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >
> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>
> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>
> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
> double-click the clock in the Systray?
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

(GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.

[DaffyD®]

I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
deleted the program.

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> Now THAT is much better!! What did you do?
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
> > How 'bout now?
> >
> > "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
> >>
> >> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
looks
> >>>>> fine.
> >>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >>>>> date/time
> >>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
> >>>>> What's
> >>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
time
> >>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
> >>>>> reply
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
seeing
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> opposite of what you see?
> >>>>
> >>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>>>
> >>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> >>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >>>> Lines: 12
> >>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> >>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> >>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> >>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>
> >>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> >>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Franc Zabkar
> >>>> --
> >>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >>>
> >>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>>
> >>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>> References: >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> >>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>> Lines: 51
> >>> X-Priority: 3
> >>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>> Message-ID: >
> >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> >>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>
>

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:15:32 +1000, Alan Edwards
> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:39:33 -0400, in
>microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:
>
>>PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>><snip>
>>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
>>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>>
>>And if you were, in fact, in WA and your date was correct, the UTC offset
>>(right now) would be +0800
>
>That's better.
>AFAIK, there is no such thing as UTC -1600, despite it showing in his
>headers.
>
>...Alan

When I change my time zone, this is one registry key that is affected:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation

The "ActiveTimeBias" and "Bias" parameters appear to hold the UTC
offset.

For example, these are the values of the affected parameters for my
time zone (GMT +1000).

"ActiveTimeBias"=hex:a8,fd,ff,ff
"StandardName"="AUS Eastern Standard Time"
"DaylightName"="AUS Eastern Daylight Time"
"Bias"=hex:a8,fd,ff,ff

The bias value of 0xfffffda8 is equal to -600 decimal. This appears to
be the UTC offset in minutes.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Franc Zabkar]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
>clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
>deleted the program.

I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation

What values do you have for the following paramaters:

"ActiveTimeBias"
"StandardName"
"DaylightName"
"Bias"

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:00:24 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
>>clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
>>deleted the program.
>
>I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
>
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
>
>What values do you have for the following paramaters:
>
> "ActiveTimeBias"
> "StandardName"
> "DaylightName"
> "Bias"

I'm wondering if the "ActiveTimeBias" has been incorrectly set to "C0
03 00 00" (ie +960 minutes).

If so, then you might like to try changing your time zone to some
other, apply the change, and then change back to your preferred time
zone. Maybe this procedure will reset the above parameters, assuming
they are broken. If the numbers are still wrong, then you could
manually edit them, or look for damage in some other registry key.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

The data in that CurrentControlSet key derives from the appropriate sub-key
in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Tim e Zones\<your time
zone>. (In NT systems, it's \Windows NT\ instead of \Windows\.) The data is
written when you Apply a new Time Zone. The first thing to do if you suspect
corruption of that key is to choose a different time zone, apply it, and
then reset to the desired TZ. If the corruption is still there, then the
info in the above key is the problem.

I have a download that replaces the entire TZ key with current settings, up
to date -- except for Pakistan's, where they recently changed the law
without much warning. I still don't know what their new law(s) prescribe for
Standard and Daylight times. I need to find out and update the file. This
article is the jumping off point:
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm

Note that you may want to take the file apart and inspect the REG files.
Running the EXE includes a script that uses the SendKeys method, so keep
your hands off the keyboard and just watch the show unless prompted. If the
script stalls or does not execute at all (lots of possible reasons), don't
worry. Just Merge the appropriate REG file and then change the TZ in the
Time/Date applet, apply, and then change it back.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:15:32 +1000, Alan Edwards
> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:39:33 -0400, in
>>microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:
>>
>>>PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>><snip>
>>>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then
>>>> the
>>>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>>>
>>>And if you were, in fact, in WA and your date was correct, the UTC offset
>>>(right now) would be +0800
>>
>>That's better.
>>AFAIK, there is no such thing as UTC -1600, despite it showing in his
>>headers.
>>
>>...Alan
>
> When I change my time zone, this is one registry key that is affected:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
>
> The "ActiveTimeBias" and "Bias" parameters appear to hold the UTC
> offset.
>
> For example, these are the values of the affected parameters for my
> time zone (GMT +1000).
>
> "ActiveTimeBias"=hex:a8,fd,ff,ff
> "StandardName"="AUS Eastern Standard Time"
> "DaylightName"="AUS Eastern Daylight Time"
> "Bias"=hex:a8,fd,ff,ff
>
> The bias value of 0xfffffda8 is equal to -600 decimal. This appears to
> be the UTC offset in minutes.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

"DaffyD®" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
>> >>
>> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >>
>> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>> >
>> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>
>> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>
>> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
>> double-click the clock in the Systray?
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
>

Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on Daylight
time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix. Or
just go to my site and follow the trail.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

[DaffyD®]

my answers are embedded below. these are both with D4 installed and
uninstalled. With D4 installed, my system clock reads 11:28 am--which is 9
hours before my current time of 8:28 pm.

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
> >clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
> >deleted the program.
>
> I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
>
> What values do you have for the following paramaters:
>
> "ActiveTimeBias" (960)
> "StandardName" Pacific Standard Time
> "DaylightName" Pacific Daylight Time
> "Bias" (480)
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[DaffyD®]

my answer below.

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:00:24 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >finger to keyboard and composed:
> >
> >>I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my
system
> >>clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
> >>deleted the program.
> >
> >I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
> >
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
> >
> >What values do you have for the following paramaters:
> >
> > "ActiveTimeBias"
> > "StandardName"
> > "DaylightName"
> > "Bias"
>
> I'm wondering if the "ActiveTimeBias" has been incorrectly set to "C0
> 03 00 00" (ie +960 minutes).
>
> If so, then you might like to try changing your time zone to some
> other, apply the change, and then change back to your preferred time
> zone. Maybe this procedure will reset the above parameters, assuming
> they are broken. If the numbers are still wrong, then you could
> manually edit them, or look for damage in some other registry key.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Yes! It is 960. What should it be?

[DaffyD®]

I'm in UTC-8. D4 puts my system clock in UTC+8 even though the Time/Date
taskbar still shows me in the Pacific Daylight Time zone.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> <QP>
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
> </QP>
>
> Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
> something's still wrong. What did you do?
>
> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>
> You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be UTC -0700
> for PDT currently).
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
> > How 'bout now?
> >
> > "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
> >>
> >> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
looks
> >>>>> fine.
> >>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >>>>> date/time
> >>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
> >>>>> What's
> >>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
time
> >>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
> >>>>> reply
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
seeing
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> opposite of what you see?
> >>>>
> >>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>>>
> >>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> >>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >>>> Lines: 12
> >>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> >>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> >>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> >>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>
> >>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
> >>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Franc Zabkar
> >>>> --
> >>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >>>
> >>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>>
> >>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>> References: >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> >>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>> Lines: 51
> >>> X-Priority: 3
> >>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>> Message-ID: >
> >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> >>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>

[DaffyD®]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>
> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >> >>
> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >>
> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
Pacific
> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >> >
> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>
> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>
> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
> >>
> >> - Franc Zabkar
> >> --
> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >
> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
> >
>
> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on Daylight
> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix. Or
> just go to my site and follow the trail.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
>
> I used your program and now my system is set 3 hours ahead, which is at
least getting closer.
I also see that the tech who built this computer is already using TZ Edit.
How would I turn this off or delete it?

[DaffyD®]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>
> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >> >>
> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >>
> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
Pacific
> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >> >
> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>
> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>
> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
> >>
> >> - Franc Zabkar
> >> --
> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >
> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
> >
>
> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on Daylight
> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix. Or
> just go to my site and follow the trail.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is now
synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be
accurate.
>

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:30:00 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>my answers are embedded below. these are both with D4 installed and
>uninstalled. With D4 installed, my system clock reads 11:28 am--which is 9
>hours before my current time of 8:28 pm.

Gary is probably the best person to advise you, but I believe the
ActiveTimeBias should be set to 480 or 420.

Did Gary's TZ updater utility restore the correct the data at the
following key?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time
Zones\Pacific

FWIW, my registry, with the original Microsoft TZ data, shows ...

"Display"="(GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana"
"Dlt"="Pacific Daylight Time"
"Std"="Pacific Standard Time"
"MapID"="32,33"
"TZI"=hex:e0,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0a, 00,00,00,05,00,02,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,01,00,02,00,00,00 ,00,00,00,00

As you can see, the BIAS is 0x000001e0 (=480 minutes).

>"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my system
>> >clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
>> >deleted the program.
>>
>> I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
>>
>> What values do you have for the following paramaters:
>>
>> "ActiveTimeBias" (960)
>> "StandardName" Pacific Standard Time
>> "DaylightName" Pacific Daylight Time
>> "Bias" (480)

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Sunny]

Ask here as well ? (Your ISP)
CustName: Wave Broadband
Address: Private Residence
City: Port Orchard
StateProv: WA


"DaffyD®" > wrote in message
...
> Bill, I'm going to ask the tech at work who gave me this computer what
> he
> thinks is going on. I mean, if the BIOS system clock is OK, and the
> Windows
> taskbar clock matches my watch, why would D4 synch me up with the
> newsgroup
> but throw off the Windows clock by 9 hrs? This is one of 2 mysteries
> with
> this computer that I need to solve.
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm using Dimension 4 (D4) too, but I don't have that same problem.
> (If
>> IT is throwing your clock off by 9 hours, that sounds pretty weird).
>>
>> DaffyD® wrote:
>> > I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my
> system
>> > clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am.
>> > So I
>> > deleted the program.
>> >
>> > "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Now THAT is much better!! What did you do?
>> >>
>> >> DaffyD® wrote:
>> >>> How 'bout now?
>> >>>
>> >>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>> >>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®"
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
>> >>>>>>> looks
>> >>>>>>> fine.
>> >>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> date/time
>> >>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not
>> >>>>>>> AM.
>> >>>>>>> What's
>> >>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE,
>> >>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>> time
>> >>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see
>> >>>>>>> your
>> >>>>>>> reply
>> >>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
>> >>>>>>> seeing
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>> >>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>> >>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> >>>>>> Lines: 12
>> >>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>> >>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> >>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>> >>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>> >>>>>> Message-ID: >
>> >>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> >>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>> >>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>> >>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
> Pacific
>> >>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>> >>>>> References: >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>> >>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>> >>>>> Lines: 51
>> >>>>> X-Priority: 3
>> >>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> >>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>> >>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>> >>>>> Message-ID: >
>> >>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> >>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>> >>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>> >>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>>
>>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

"DaffyD®" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
>> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
>> >>
>> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> >> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
> Pacific
>> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>> >> >
>> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>> >>
>> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>> >>
>> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
>> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
>> >>
>> >> - Franc Zabkar
>> >> --
>> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>> >
>> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
>> >
>>
>> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on
>> Daylight
>> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix. Or
>> just go to my site and follow the trail.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is now
> synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be
> accurate.

Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't fix the
issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the mix? Without D4
being involved, the updater should have fixed the issue and I'd be very
interested to know if that wasn't the case. I don't know of any mechanism in
Win98 that would change that Registry key or its sub-keys.

Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and above was
released a month ago.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/

I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised if it's
Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very first and only
monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic A75s, a CRT with "short
depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of its life powered up and serving
as my primary monitor. More recently it's been attached to whatever machine
happens to need it, usually my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up this
morning it started doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to reincarnate
as an arc welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed
tomorrow. Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC, there's
not much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"
enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any flat
panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one. That's
revolting.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

[DaffyD®]

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:02:52 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> > wrote:
>
> >You post here (which just came in) is dated 07:27 AM tomorrow morning
(i.e,
> >Thursday, Sept 18)!! (As I write this it is 11 PM, on Wednesday
nite,
> >Sept 17)
> >
> >DaffyD® wrote:
> >> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see looks
> >> fine.
> >> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >> date/time
> >> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM. What's
> >> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's time
> >> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
reply
> >> was
> >> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be seeing
the
> >> opposite of what you see?
> >>
>
> The internet is on DRUGS !!!!!
> Al Gore forgot to mention this..... :)

Whoa, dude. That's why I get high on surfin the 'net. Far out.

[DaffyD®]

Bill, I'm going to ask the tech at work who gave me this computer what he
thinks is going on. I mean, if the BIOS system clock is OK, and the Windows
taskbar clock matches my watch, why would D4 synch me up with the newsgroup
but throw off the Windows clock by 9 hrs? This is one of 2 mysteries with
this computer that I need to solve.



"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> I'm using Dimension 4 (D4) too, but I don't have that same problem.
(If
> IT is throwing your clock off by 9 hours, that sounds pretty weird).
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
> > I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my
system
> > clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So I
> > deleted the program.
> >
> > "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Now THAT is much better!! What did you do?
> >>
> >> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>> How 'bout now?
> >>>
> >>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
> >>>>
> >>>> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
> >>>>>> >>>>>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
> >>>>>>> looks
> >>>>>>> fine.
> >>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >>>>>>> date/time
> >>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
> >>>>>>> What's
> >>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
> >>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
> >>>>>>> reply
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
> >>>>>>> seeing
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >>>>>> Lines: 12
> >>>>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> >>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
Pacific
> >>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>>> References: >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>>>> Lines: 51
> >>>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> >>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>
>

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:30:00 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >my answers are embedded below. these are both with D4 installed and
> >uninstalled. With D4 installed, my system clock reads 11:28 am--which is
9
> >hours before my current time of 8:28 pm.
>
> Gary is probably the best person to advise you, but I believe the
> ActiveTimeBias should be set to 480 or 420.
>
> Did Gary's TZ updater utility restore the correct the data at the
> following key?
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time
> Zones\Pacific
>
> FWIW, my registry, with the original Microsoft TZ data, shows ...
>
> "Display"="(GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana"
> "Dlt"="Pacific Daylight Time"
> "Std"="Pacific Standard Time"
> "MapID"="32,33"
>
"TZI"=hex:e0,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0a, 00,00,00,05,00,02,00,
00,\
> 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,01,00,02,00,00,00 ,00,00,00,00
>
> As you can see, the BIAS is 0x000001e0 (=480 minutes).
>
> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>
> >> >I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my
system
> >> >clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So
I
> >> >deleted the program.
> >>
> >> I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
> >>
> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
> >>
> >> What values do you have for the following paramaters:
> >>
> >> "ActiveTimeBias" (960)
> >> "StandardName" Pacific Standard Time
> >> "DaylightName" Pacific Daylight Time
> >> "Bias" (480)
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

It may be due to Gary's program, Bias is now 0x000001e0 (480). What did
change is that ActiveTimeBias which is now 0x000001a4 (420). The change came
out by futzing around with Gary's program, TZEDIT, and then D4. If the
headers are still wrong, I'm throwing in the towel. Actually, I'll keep it
for a beach towel and head for the Southern California beaches, smack dab in
the PDT UTC-7, and where the only headers you see are on muscle cars and
surfer dudes wiping out on the big waves. Ciao!
--
DaffyD®

If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Screw D4. Uninstall it.

UTC and GMT are *not* always the same: During British Summer Time (BST), GMT
= UTC +1 (or +0100). Therefore...

PDT = UTC -7 (or -0700) = GMT -8 (or -0800)

DaffyD® wrote:
> I'm in UTC-8. D4 puts my system clock in UTC+8 even though the Time/Date
> taskbar still shows me in the Pacific Daylight Time zone.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> <QP>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
>> </QP>
>>
>> Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
>> something's still wrong. What did you do?
>>
>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>>
>> You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be
>> UTC -0700
>> for PDT currently).
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>>
>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>> How 'bout now?
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>>>
>>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
>>>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>>>> date/time
>>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>>>> What's
>>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>>>> Lines: 12
>>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>>>> ================================================== ==========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas Pacific
>>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>> References: >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>>>> Lines: 51
>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[Bill in Co.]

Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine over
here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
that - as a "solution".

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> Screw D4. Uninstall it.
>
> UTC and GMT are *not* always the same: During British Summer Time (BST),
> GMT
> = UTC +1 (or +0100). Therefore...
>
> PDT = UTC -7 (or -0700) = GMT -8 (or -0800)
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
>> I'm in UTC-8. D4 puts my system clock in UTC+8 even though the Time/Date
>> taskbar still shows me in the Pacific Daylight Time zone.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> <QP>
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
>>> </QP>
>>>
>>> Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
>>> something's still wrong. What did you do?
>>>
>>> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then the
>>> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
>>>
>>> You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be
>>> UTC -0700
>>> for PDT currently).
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>>> How 'bout now?
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
>>>>>
>>>>> DaffyD® wrote:
>>>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
>>>>>>>> date/time
>>>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
>>>>>>>> What's
>>>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ================================================== ======
>>>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>>>>>>> Lines: 12
>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
>>>>>>> ================================================== ======
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
>>>>>>> Pacific
>>>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
>>>>>> References: >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>>>>>> Lines: 51
>>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
>>>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine over
>here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
>that - as a "solution".

I use WebTime 2000:
http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html

I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
in the background to consume resources, however small.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Dan]

Have fun taking a break. BTW, DaffyD, have you fully checked your computer
system out for any baddies that may be manipulating your time clock
especially since Bill in Co. uses Dimension 4 and Franc uses another time
clock program and even with Gary S. Terhune's time clock adjuster your time
clock was still wrong. The reason I ask this is that I have had my time
clock be off in the past and it was due to mal-ware. This is just a thought
and another perspective and please let us know what anti-spyware utilities
you use to scan your system as well as the antivirus scanner you are using.
Another thing to check is in add/remove programs to make sure there is
nothing there that you do not recognize or that seems malicious. I helped
out for a week at Camp Stoney this summer again in Santa Fe, New Mexico and
of course and no surprise to me that 2 computers were compromised because of
the camp counselor's continued use of MySpace, FaceBook and Yahoo programs
and junk had gotten in and infected both computers in the same way. I
removed the infected programs and ran the appropriate software and fixed
them. The 2 computers that were compromised were both running Windows. One
of the computers had Windows 2000 Professional and the other computer had
Windows XP. There was a 3rd computer that also had Windows XP but this
computer just had printer issues so it just took removing the old software
and downloading and installing brand new basic printer drivers to get the
machine working as normal again. It certainly is fun to work on computers as
long as you don't let the machines get the better of you and put the matter
in perspective at least that is what helps me deal with electronics when I
get frustrated. Have a great week.

"DaffyD®" wrote:

>
> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:30:00 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> > finger to keyboard and composed:
> >
> > >my answers are embedded below. these are both with D4 installed and
> > >uninstalled. With D4 installed, my system clock reads 11:28 am--which is
> 9
> > >hours before my current time of 8:28 pm.
> >
> > Gary is probably the best person to advise you, but I believe the
> > ActiveTimeBias should be set to 480 or 420.
> >
> > Did Gary's TZ updater utility restore the correct the data at the
> > following key?
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time
> > Zones\Pacific
> >
> > FWIW, my registry, with the original Microsoft TZ data, shows ...
> >
> > "Display"="(GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana"
> > "Dlt"="Pacific Daylight Time"
> > "Std"="Pacific Standard Time"
> > "MapID"="32,33"
> >
> "TZI"=hex:e0,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0a, 00,00,00,05,00,02,00,
> 00,\
> > 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,01,00,02,00,00,00 ,00,00,00,00
> >
> > As you can see, the BIAS is 0x000001e0 (=480 minutes).
> >
> > >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:50:36 -1600, "DaffyD®" > put
> > >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> > >>
> > >> >I installed a program called Dimension 4, but then it threw off my
> system
> > >> >clock by 9 hours. Instead of it showing 8 pm my clock showed 11 am. So
> I
> > >> >deleted the program.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if Dimension 4 changed this registry key:
> > >>
> > >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
> > >>
> > >> What values do you have for the following paramaters:
> > >>
> > >> "ActiveTimeBias" (960)
> > >> "StandardName" Pacific Standard Time
> > >> "DaylightName" Pacific Daylight Time
> > >> "Bias" (480)
> >
> > - Franc Zabkar
> > --
> > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> It may be due to Gary's program, Bias is now 0x000001e0 (480). What did
> change is that ActiveTimeBias which is now 0x000001a4 (420). The change came
> out by futzing around with Gary's program, TZEDIT, and then D4. If the
> headers are still wrong, I'm throwing in the towel. Actually, I'll keep it
> for a beach towel and head for the Southern California beaches, smack dab in
> the PDT UTC-7, and where the only headers you see are on muscle cars and
> surfer dudes wiping out on the big waves. Ciao!
> --
> DaffyD®
>
> If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.
>
>
>

[DaffyD®]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
put
> >> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
> > Pacific
> >> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >> >>
> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
> >> >>
> >> >> - Franc Zabkar
> >> >> --
> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >> >
> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on
> >> Daylight
> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix.
Or
> >> just go to my site and follow the trail.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is
now
> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be
> > accurate.
>
> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't fix
the
> issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the mix? Without D4
> being involved, the updater should have fixed the issue and I'd be very
> interested to know if that wasn't the case. I don't know of any mechanism
in
> Win98 that would change that Registry key or its sub-keys.
>
> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and above
was
> released a month ago.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/
>
> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised if it's
> Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very first and only
> monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic A75s, a CRT with "short
> depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of its life powered up and
serving
> as my primary monitor. More recently it's been attached to whatever
machine
> happens to need it, usually my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up
this
> morning it started doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to
reincarnate
> as an arc welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed
> tomorrow. Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC, there's
> not much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"
> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any flat
> panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one. That's
> revolting.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
I'm sorry about the monitor problem. I've used the same one for over 10
years. It developed display problems. Now I'm using a castoff from where I
work. If I could afford to buy a new monitor it would come with a new
computer, Gary.

Anyway, your program was part of the fix. I remember that I installed it but
the time still wasn't right. I used D4 to query one of the servers and the
correct time was displayed on the taskbar.
I think your program was the key to D4 getting it right. Since things seem
to be working again, do you think I should still download your program
update?
>
>

[DaffyD®]

I believe I've got it fixed now--how do the headers look?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Screw D4. Uninstall it.
>
> UTC and GMT are *not* always the same: During British Summer Time (BST),
GMT
> = UTC +1 (or +0100). Therefore...
>
> PDT = UTC -7 (or -0700) = GMT -8 (or -0800)
>
> DaffyD® wrote:
> > I'm in UTC-8. D4 puts my system clock in UTC+8 even though the Time/Date
> > taskbar still shows me in the Pacific Daylight Time zone.
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> <QP>
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:51:10 -1600
> >> </QP>
> >>
> >> Your post's date & time appear correctly but the above tells us that
> >> something's still wrong. What did you do?
> >>
> >> UTC -1600 would put you in Western Australia (e.g., Perth), but then
the
> >> date would be Fri., 19 Sept 2008.
> >>
> >> You need to adjust both your date and time zone (which should be
> >> UTC -0700
> >> for PDT currently).
> >> --
> >> ~PA Bear
> >>
> >>
> >> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>> How 'bout now?
> >>>
> >>> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> And this one too is also dated TOMORROW! It ain't fixed, Daffy.
> >>>>
> >>>> DaffyD® wrote:
> >>>>> "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:27:19 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
put
> >>>>>> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Glen, I'm not sure what to do because everything that I can see
> >>>>>>> looks
> >>>>>>> fine.
> >>>>>>> I have been using a new computer for 2 weeks now but checking the
> >>>>>>> date/time
> >>>>>>> properties on the taskbar, the date and time do show PM, not AM.
> >>>>>>> What's
> >>>>>>> strange is that when I look at the time of your post in OE, it's
> >>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>> stamped 11:50 AM on the 17th, which means that per what I see your
> >>>>>>> reply
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>> posted 9 hours before I posted the my question. Why would I be
> >>>>>>> seeing
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> opposite of what you see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>>>> Subject: Posting In The Future?
> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >>>>>> Lines: 12
> >>>>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> >>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> >>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845131
> >>>>>> ================================================== ==========
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
Pacific
> >>>>>> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe that explains the 9 hours difference?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Franc Zabkar
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: "DaffyD®" >
> >>>>> References: >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Posting In The Future?
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >>>>> Lines: 51
> >>>>> X-Priority: 3
> >>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
> >>>>> Message-ID: >
> >>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> >>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24-113-202-109.wavecable.com 24.113.202.109
> >>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> >>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:845161
>

[DaffyD®]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
put
> >> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >>
> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
> > Pacific
> >> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
> >> >>
> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
> >> >>
> >> >> - Franc Zabkar
> >> >> --
> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> >> >
> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on
> >> Daylight
> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix.
Or
> >> just go to my site and follow the trail.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is
now
> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be
> > accurate.
>
> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't fix
the
> issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the mix? Without D4
> being involved, the updater should have fixed the issue and I'd be very
> interested to know if that wasn't the case. I don't know of any mechanism
in
> Win98 that would change that Registry key or its sub-keys.
>
> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and above
was
> released a month ago.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/
>
> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised if it's
> Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very first and only
> monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic A75s, a CRT with "short
> depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of its life powered up and
serving
> as my primary monitor. More recently it's been attached to whatever
machine
> happens to need it, usually my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up
this
> morning it started doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to
reincarnate
> as an arc welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed
> tomorrow. Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC, there's
> not much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"
> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any flat
> panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one. That's
> revolting.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background, like D4,
or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works. Do I
need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your registry fix also
negate the need for a time synchonization program?

>

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine
over
> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
> >that - as a "solution".
>
> I use WebTime 2000:
> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html
>
> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
> in the background to consume resources, however small.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although
the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.

[Franc Zabkar]

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" > put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...

>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine
>over
>> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
>> >that - as a "solution".
>>
>> I use WebTime 2000:
>> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html
>>
>> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
>> in the background to consume resources, however small.
>
>Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although
>the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.

Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.
However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4
could be better from that point of view.

BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't
OE allow you to see them for yourself?

I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email
message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???

File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Sunny]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>
>>> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works
>>> >fine
>>over
>>> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck
>>> >with
>>> >that - as a "solution".
>>>
>>> I use WebTime 2000:
>>> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html
>>>
>>> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
>>> in the background to consume resources, however small.
>>
>>Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs?
>>Although
>>the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.
>
> Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.
> However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4
> could be better from that point of view.
>
> BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't
> OE allow you to see them for yourself?
>
> I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email
> message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???
>
> File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source

OE can also use > Right click on message and select "propperties" :-)

[dadiOH[_3_]]

DaffyD® wrote:

> I believe I've got it fixed now--how do the headers look?

Look for yourself...

1. right click on it
2. click "Properties"
3. click "Details"

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Ctrl-F3 is one of my more well-used keystrokes.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>
>>> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine
>>over
>>> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
>>> >that - as a "solution".
>>>
>>> I use WebTime 2000:
>>> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html
>>>
>>> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
>>> in the background to consume resources, however small.
>>
>>Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although
>>the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.
>
> Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.
> However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4
> could be better from that point of view.
>
> BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't
> OE allow you to see them for yourself?
>
> I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email
> message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???
>
> File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

"DaffyD®" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
>> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®" >
> put
>> >> >> finger to keyboard and composed:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
>> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?) whereas
>> > Pacific
>> >> >> >> Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
>> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Franc Zabkar
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>> >> >
>> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on
>> >> Daylight
>> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a fix.
> Or
>> >> just go to my site and follow the trail.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system clock is
> now
>> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message should be
>> > accurate.
>>
>> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't fix
> the
>> issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the mix? Without D4
>> being involved, the updater should have fixed the issue and I'd be very
>> interested to know if that wasn't the case. I don't know of any mechanism
> in
>> Win98 that would change that Registry key or its sub-keys.
>>
>> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and above
> was
>> released a month ago.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/
>>
>> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised if
>> it's
>> Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very first and
>> only
>> monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic A75s, a CRT with "short
>> depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of its life powered up and
> serving
>> as my primary monitor. More recently it's been attached to whatever
> machine
>> happens to need it, usually my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up
> this
>> morning it started doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to
> reincarnate
>> as an arc welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed
>> tomorrow. Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC,
>> there's
>> not much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"
>> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any flat
>> panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one. That's
>> revolting.
>
> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background, like D4,
> or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works. Do I
> need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your registry fix
> also
> negate the need for a time synchonization program?

TZEdit is a simple wizard that allows you to edit the data in
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Tim e Zones. It does not run
in the background, it doesn't sync your clock.

My patch is likewise passive. It's intended purpose is to simply update
pre-XP Windows systems to account for changes in the onset and finish dates
of Daylight Savings Time. I only injected it here because I saw that it
could be useful for recovering from your specific (and AFAIK rare) issue. If
D4 had been uninstalled before using my patch, and if my patch actually
completed (I'd do it manually to be certain, using the REG file and
restarting the system,) I'm almost 100% sure that the clock would have been
restored to like-new (and updated) Time Zone info. It's almost certain that
D4 that gave you all the grief, and based upon this event, alone, I'd stop
using D4. Period. I haven't got the time, right now, to attempt repeating
your issue, but I suspect the addition of Windows 2K/XP/2003 support to D4
somehow left the 9x part in an unstable state. It's either that, or your
system was already unstable and/or overly tweaked.(?) Find another app to do
the job. If it doesn't have it's own scheduler running in the background,
see if it's a good candidate for Task Scheduler. Just have to know the
command-line switches.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

[PCR]

DaffyD® wrote:
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| ...
|> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
|> ...
|> >
|> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> > ...
|> >> "DaffyD®" > wrote in message
|> >> ...
|> >> >
|> >> > "Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
|> >> > ...
|> >> >> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:04:27 -1600, "DaffyD®"
|> >> >> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
|> >> >>
|> >> >> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
|> >> >> ...
|> >> >>
|> >> >> >> These are your original headers as I see them:
|> >> >> >>
|> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
|> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:40:05 -1600
|> >> >> >> ================================================== ==========
|> >> >> >>
|> >> >> >> Your time zone appears to be set for GMT-16 hours (?)
|> >> >> >> whereas Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) is GMT-7 (USA & Canada).
|> >> >> >
|> >> >> >Here are the headers from my email sent moments ago:
|> >> >>
|> >> >> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 -1600
|> >> >>
|> >> >> You still have a problem. What Time Zone do you see when you
|> >> >> double-click the clock in the Systray?
|> >> >>
|> >> >> - Franc Zabkar
|> >> >> --
|> >> >> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|> >> >
|> >> > (GMT-8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
|> >> >
|> >>
|> >> Which means your clock should read UTC -7. Because we're still on
|> >> Daylight
|> >> time. See my reply to Franc, at 2:27 Pacific Daylight Time, for a
|> >> fix. Or just go to my site and follow the trail.
|> >>
|> >> --
|> >> Gary S. Terhune
|> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> >> http://grystmill.com
|> >>
|> >> I did more fiddling around with TZ Edit and D4 and my system
|> >> clock is
| now
|> > synch'd with my watch. Hopefully the headers for this message
|> > should be accurate.
|>
|> Looks fine to me. But it bothers me that using my update file didn't
|> fix the issue immediately, or didn't you try it without D4 in the
|> mix? Without D4 being involved, the updater should have fixed the
|> issue and I'd be very interested to know if that wasn't the case. I
|> don't know of any mechanism in Win98 that would change that Registry
|> key or its sub-keys.
|>
|> Turns out that the most recent update to the TZ info in WinXP and
|> above was released a month ago.
|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951072/
|>
|> I'll be updating my files tomorrow, Sunday, but don't be surprised
|> if it's Monday or even Tuesday before I upload everything. The very
|> first and only monitor I ever bought for myself was a ViewSonic
|> A75s, a CRT with "short depth" dimensions. Spent the better part of
|> its life powered up and serving as my primary monitor. More recently
|> it's been attached to whatever machine happens to need it, usually
|> my test machine. Well, when I cranked it up this morning it started
|> doing a snap, crackle, pop like it wanted to reincarnate as an arc
|> welder, so I've got to drag a used monitor out of the shed tomorrow.
|> Kinda sad, actually. that monitor had great color. IIRC, there's not
|> much left in the shed that will work decently enough, or be "short"
|> enough to fit on my desk. Gotta see if any of my "clients" have any
|> flat panels that need to be "recycled". Might have to buy a new one.
|> That's revolting.
|>
|> --
|> Gary S. Terhune
|> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> http://grystmill.com
|>
|> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,
|> like D4,
| or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.
| Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your
| registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?

I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last
post to Terhune...!...

OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM
Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700

Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it
immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although it
looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you run
TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...

.....Quote..........
The 2006 implementation is as follows:
• Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.
• Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.

The 2007 implementation is as follows:
• Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.
• Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007
.....EOQ............


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

[PCR]

PCR wrote:
| DaffyD® wrote:

....snip
||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,
||> like D4,
|| or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.
|| Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your
|| registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?
|
| I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last
| post to Terhune...!...
|
| OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM
| Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700
|
| Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it
| immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although
| it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you
| run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...
|
| ....Quote..........
| The 2006 implementation is as follows:
| • Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.
| • Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.
|
| The 2007 implementation is as follows:
| • Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.
| • Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007
| ....EOQ............

Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference between
what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of your post.
You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine to be the same.
OE must be applying the time differential equalizer equation between us
(adding 3 hours to your header) before showing it to me! Sheesh! (I
might Chauvin an apology too.)

OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.

| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

[DaffyD®]

"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:54:08 -0700, "DaffyD®" > put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >"Franc Zabkar" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:03:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> >> > put finger to keyboard and composed:
> >>
> >> >Well, D4 is nice in that it keeps the system clock ON TIME (works fine
> >over
> >> >here), but if he can't find the problem there, I guess he's stuck with
> >> >that - as a "solution".
> >>
> >> I use WebTime 2000:
> >> http://www.gregorybraun.com/WebTime.html
> >>
> >> I manually synch my clock once a day. There is no executable running
> >> in the background to consume resources, however small.
> >
> >Wouldn't D4 and Web Time 2000 be very similar types of programs? Although
> >the picture of Merlin looks really cool. I might switch just for him.
>
> Yes, I only suggested Web Time because I've had no issues with it.
> However, Web Time does not have an automatic synch feature, so D4
> could be better from that point of view.
>
> BTW, why do you keep asking others if your headers look right? Doesn't
> OE allow you to see them for yourself?
>
> I don't use OE, but AIUI the following method displays your email
> message headers. Perhaps it works for newsgroup posts as well ???
>
> File -> Properties -> Details -> Message Source
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The problem was that the headers looked fine on my computer--I know how to
check them in Properties--but others in this newsgroup commented that I was
posting in the future based on the headers that they saw. Thankfully the
problem has been solved.

[DaffyD®]

Please see my earlier posts for a description of the issue and its
resolution.

"dadiOH" > wrote in message
...
> DaffyD® wrote:
>
> > I believe I've got it fixed now--how do the headers look?
>
> Look for yourself...
>
> 1. right click on it
> 2. click "Properties"
> 3. click "Details"
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
>
>

[DaffyD®]

I see everything in OE in Pacific Time--Standard or Daylight.
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> PCR wrote:
> | DaffyD® wrote:
>
> ...snip
> ||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,
> ||> like D4,
> || or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it works.
> || Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does your
> || registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization program?
> |
> | I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your last
> | post to Terhune...!...
> |
> | OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM
> | Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700
> |
> | Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it
> | immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.) Although
> | it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you seeing when you
> | run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007 implementation...?...
> |
> | ....Quote..........
> | The 2006 implementation is as follows:
> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.
> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.
> |
> | The 2007 implementation is as follows:
> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.
> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007
> | ....EOQ............
>
> Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference between
> what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of your post.
> You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine to be the same.
> OE must be applying the time differential equalizer equation between us
> (adding 3 hours to your header) before showing it to me! Sheesh! (I
> might Chauvin an apology too.)
>
> OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.
>
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | Should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> |
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
>
Per my OE, you posted at 4:07 PM but your headers show 19:07 PM. So you're
right about the 3 hr difference.
--
DaffyD®

If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.
>

[PCR]

DaffyD® wrote:
| I see everything in OE in Pacific Time--Standard or Daylight.

Yea. Good work with that. I hope from now on they leave these start/stop
days alone for that!

| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
|> PCR wrote:
|> | DaffyD® wrote:
|>
|> ...snip
|> ||> Forgot to ask more about TZ Edit. Does it run in the background,
|> ||> like D4,
|> || or only when I click the executable? I'm still not sure how it
|> || works. Do I need D4 if TZ Edit is already on my computer? Or does
|> || your registry fix also negate the need for a time synchonization
|> || program?
|> |
|> | I think I STILL see a problem somewhere, DaffyD®, looking at your
|> | last post to Terhune...!...
|> |
|> | OE "sent" date/time..... 9/23/08 1:46 AM
|> | Your post's properties... Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:46:54 -0700
|> |
|> | Those don't match by a lot! Did you write it online & post it
|> | immediately or wait a day? (But I doubt that should matter.)
|> | Although it looks worse than a time zone problem, what are you
|> | seeing when you run TZEdit? Does it show the 2007
|> | implementation...?...
|> |
|> | ....Quote..........
|> | The 2006 implementation is as follows:
|> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on April 2, 2006.
|> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on October 29, 2006.
|> |
|> | The 2007 implementation is as follows:
|> | . Daylight saving time starts at 02:00 A.M. on March 11, 2007.
|> | . Daylight saving time ends at 02:00 A.M. on November 4, 2007
|> | ....EOQ............
|>
|> Wait a minute! I think you are OK! There's a 3 hour difference
|> between what I see in your header & what I see in my OE display of
|> your post. You probably see those times as the same, as I see mine
|> to be the same. OE must be applying the time differential equalizer
|> equation between us (adding 3 hours to your header) before showing
|> it to me! Sheesh! (I might Chauvin an apology too.)
|>
|> OK, good work-- you & Terhune. OK, bye.

....snip of extraneous signatures...
| Per my OE, you posted at 4:07 PM but your headers show 19:07 PM. So
| you're right about the 3 hr difference.

Yep, as it finally struck me: OE is putting the sender's local time in
the header & the reader's time in the OE display. Thanks for the
confirmation. You must be near Terhune in California. So, careful you
don't fall on his head in the next earthquake. I hope your other problem
about Win98 vrs. W2K & drivers for the USB also will be solved. I'm
staying out of that one until the last minute.

| --
| DaffyD®
|
| If I Knew Where I Was I'd Be There Now.

That was funny what remo said about that! Remember...?...

"take one thing to heart mister duck,, at least you are now 12hours
ahead of yourself, and hence, you dont need your sig/logo anymore. tee
hee."

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR