Windows 2000 vs Windows ME

[Angel]

I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I am
asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load it
with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have to
feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were for
one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a Windows
98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
Angel

[Nigel Stapley]

Angel wrote:
> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I am
> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load it
> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have to
> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were for
> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a Windows
> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> Angel
>
>

No.

ME is the last of the 9x line (i.e. 95 > 98 > ME)
W2000 is in the NT line (i.e. NT > 2000 > XP > V*st*)

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.thejudge.me.uk

<reply-to will bounce>

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

No.

Angel wrote:
> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I am
> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load it
> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have to
> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were for
> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
> Windows
> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> Angel

[Angel]

Nigel,
Thank you for the info.
Angel

"Nigel Stapley" > wrote in message
news:Zr6dnSEXja4EgjLV4p2dnAA@plusnet...
: Angel wrote:
: > I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
am
: > asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
it
: > with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
to
: > feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
: > Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
for
: > one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
Windows
: > 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: > Angel
: >
: >
:
: No.
:
: ME is the last of the 9x line (i.e. 95 > 98 > ME)
: W2000 is in the NT line (i.e. NT > 2000 > XP > V*st*)
:
: --
: Regards
:
: Nigel Stapley
:
: www.thejudge.me.uk
:
: <reply-to will bounce>

[Angel]

PA. Bear,
Thanks
Angel

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
...
: No.
:
: Angel wrote:
: > I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
am
: > asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
it
: > with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
to
: > feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
: > Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
for
: > one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
: > Windows
: > 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: > Angel
:

[Bill in Co.]

It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may still
have Win98 drivers for it.

I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as it
has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.

> Angel wrote:
>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
>> am
>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load it
>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have to
>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were for
>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
>> Windows
>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
>> Angel

[Don Phillipson[_5_]]

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...

> I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
> computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as
it
> has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.

A couple of Brother printers (e.g. 2040, currently discounted at
distress prices) have Win98 drivers and parallel connector sockets.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as supported
but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
media.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." > wrote in message
...
> It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
> still have Win98 drivers for it.
>
> I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
> computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as
> it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
>
>> Angel wrote:
>>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
>>> am
>>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
>>> it
>>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
>>> to
>>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
>>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
>>> for
>>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
>>> Windows
>>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
>>> Angel
>
>

[Bill in Co.]

Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
>> computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as
>> it
>> has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
>
> A couple of Brother printers (e.g. 2040, currently discounted at
> distress prices) have Win98 drivers and parallel connector sockets.

OK. Or she could probably broaden her choices a bit more by considering
some USB printers, but even those are somewhat hard to find (as to being
Win98SE compatible) But I know at least some still have Win98SE drivers (but
most likely in the older series, and not the newest ones coming out).

[Angel]

Hi all,

I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will last
as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will work
with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.

When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out. Last
year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am taking
classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps the
mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the classes. If
I didn't, I would not take them.

Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
supported
: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
: media.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: http://grystmill.com
:
: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
: ...
: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
: >
: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
Win98SE
: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long
as
: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
: >
: >> Angel wrote:
: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason
I
: >>> am
: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
: >>> it
: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
: >>> to
: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
: >>> for
: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
: >>> Windows
: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: >>> Angel
: >
: >
:
:

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Well, as you can imagine, since I currently don't have the room to set up my
Konika-Minolta or HP color laser printers (and the wife's business has first
claim on them), I have one scavenged Deskjet Printer that I can only make
work sometimes, and you can't have it!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Angel" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will
> last
> as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will
> work
> with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
>
> When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out. Last
> year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am taking
> classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps the
> mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the classes.
> If
> I didn't, I would not take them.
>
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
> : Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
> supported
> : but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
> : media.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : http://grystmill.com
> :
> : "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
> : > still have Win98 drivers for it.
> : >
> : > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
> Win98SE
> : > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long
> as
> : > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
> : >
> : >> Angel wrote:
> : >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
> reason
> I
> : >>> am
> : >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not
> load
> : >>> it
> : >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I
> have
> : >>> to
> : >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is
> a
> : >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements
> were
> : >>> for
> : >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
> : >>> Windows
> : >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> : >>> Angel
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

[Dan]

Bill, sometimes the Windows ME driver works --- does for me with ATI Radeon
9800 XT and the Windows 2000 driver for my HP Printer after HP removed all
the 98 drivers for it from there website so 98 users do have options if they
are smart enough to use them --- grin. I certainly would not trust any
Windows XP drivers on 98 Second Edition because they are too far apart.
Well, 98 Second Edition users have until at least 2010 before Windows 2000
Professional users are supposed to be left high and dry after end of support
for 2000 Professional and that will be a sad day, imo.

"Bill in Co." wrote:

> It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may still
> have Win98 drivers for it.
>
> I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
> computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as it
> has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
>
> > Angel wrote:
> >> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
> >> am
> >> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load it
> >> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have to
> >> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
> >> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were for
> >> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
> >> Windows
> >> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> >> Angel
>
>
>

[Dan]

Thanks for the FYI, Gary, stupid third-party companies . . .

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as supported
> but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
> media.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
> > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
> > still have Win98 drivers for it.
> >
> > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
> > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as
> > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
> >
> >> Angel wrote:
> >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason I
> >>> am
> >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
> >>> it
> >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
> >>> to
> >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
> >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
> >>> for
> >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
> >>> Windows
> >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> >>> Angel
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Dan]

I also do not like Epson printers because my dad had one once and it had
stupid ink monitoring software that had to be removed. No Epson printer ever
again for me unless it is a last resort.

" wrote:

> There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still available.
> Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
> have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
> I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
> tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
> printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
> paper too.
>
> I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
> never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
> prefer 98, so I changed it.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will last
> >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will work
> >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
> >
> >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out. Last
> >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am taking
> >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps the
> >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the classes. If
> >I didn't, I would not take them.
> >
> >Angel
> >
> >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
> >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
> >supported
> >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
> >: media.
> >:
> >: --
> >: Gary S. Terhune
> >: MS-MVP Shell/User
> >: http://grystmill.com
> >:
> >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> >: ...
> >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
> >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
> >: >
> >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
> >Win98SE
> >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long
> >as
> >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
> >: >
> >: >> Angel wrote:
> >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The reason
> >I
> >: >>> am
> >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not load
> >: >>> it
> >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I have
> >: >>> to
> >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is a
> >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements were
> >: >>> for
> >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
> >: >>> Windows
> >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> >: >>> Angel
> >: >
> >: >
> >:
> >:
> >
>
>

[Dan]

.. . . parallel connector sockets --- the joy --- mine is just sadly USB 2.x

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the Win98SE
> > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as long as
> it
> > has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
>
> A couple of Brother printers (e.g. 2040, currently discounted at
> distress prices) have Win98 drivers and parallel connector sockets.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>

[Angel]

> wrote in message
...
: There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still available.
: Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
: have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
: I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
: tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
: printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
: paper too.
:
My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought I was
doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them) and from
then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the top.
Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one page at a
time now.

I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to the
printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing even
though it was not as much paper as the first time.

: I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
: never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
: prefer 98, so I changed it.
:
I am still waiting for the ME that I was promised over a year ago. I never
worked with WinME. It looks like I won't be working with WinME. I am not
going to hold my breath until I get the "ME" promised.

Angel
:
: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
:
: >Hi all,
: >
: >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will
last
: >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will
work
: >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
: >
: >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out. Last
: >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
taking
: >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps
the
: >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the classes.
If
: >I didn't, I would not take them.
: >
: >Angel
: >
: >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: ...
: >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
: >supported
: >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
: >: media.
: >:
: >: --
: >: Gary S. Terhune
: >: MS-MVP Shell/User
: >: http://grystmill.com
: >:
: >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
: >: ...
: >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some may
: >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
: >: >
: >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
: >Win98SE
: >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as
long
: >as
: >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
: >: >
: >: >> Angel wrote:
: >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
reason
: >I
: >: >>> am
: >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not
load
: >: >>> it
: >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I
have
: >: >>> to
: >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It is
a
: >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements
were
: >: >>> for
: >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is a
: >: >>> Windows
: >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: >: >>> Angel
: >: >
: >: >
: >:
: >:
: >
:

[Angel]

No Gary, if it only works once in a while, then mine is better than yours
(at this time)!! If you happen to run across one that is good and I can use
it, please let me know.
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
: Well, as you can imagine, since I currently don't have the room to set up
my
: Konika-Minolta or HP color laser printers (and the wife's business has
first
: claim on them), I have one scavenged Deskjet Printer that I can only make
: work sometimes, and you can't have it!
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: http://grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Hi all,
: >
: > I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will
: > last
: > as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will
: > work
: > with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
: >
: > When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out. Last
: > year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
taking
: > classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps
the
: > mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the classes.
: > If
: > I didn't, I would not take them.
: >
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > ...
: > : Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
: > supported
: > : but for which support has been removed or disabled in the installation
: > : media.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : http://grystmill.com
: > :
: > : "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
: > : ...
: > : > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some
may
: > : > still have Win98 drivers for it.
: > : >
: > : > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
: > Win98SE
: > : > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as
long
: > as
: > : > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
: > : >
: > : >> Angel wrote:
: > : >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
: > reason
: > I
: > : >>> am
: > : >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not
: > load
: > : >>> it
: > : >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I
: > have
: > : >>> to
: > : >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It
is
: > a
: > : >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements
: > were
: > : >>> for
: > : >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is
a
: > : >>> Windows
: > : >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: > : >>> Angel
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

You were promised ME? By whom? And why?

In any case, it won't help your find a printer. If they don't have Win98SE
drivers, they don't have ME drivers.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Angel" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> : There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still available.
> : Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
> : have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
> : I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
> : tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
> : printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
> : paper too.
> :
> My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought I was
> doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them) and from
> then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the top.
> Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one page at
> a
> time now.
>
> I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to the
> printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing even
> though it was not as much paper as the first time.
>
> : I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
> : never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
> : prefer 98, so I changed it.
> :
> I am still waiting for the ME that I was promised over a year ago. I never
> worked with WinME. It looks like I won't be working with WinME. I am not
> going to hold my breath until I get the "ME" promised.
>
> Angel
> :
> : On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
> :
> : >Hi all,
> : >
> : >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will
> last
> : >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will
> work
> : >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
> : >
> : >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out.
> Last
> : >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
> taking
> : >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps
> the
> : >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the
> classes.
> If
> : >I didn't, I would not take them.
> : >
> : >Angel
> : >
> : >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : ...
> : >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
> : >supported
> : >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the
> installation
> : >: media.
> : >:
> : >: --
> : >: Gary S. Terhune
> : >: MS-MVP Shell/User
> : >: http://grystmill.com
> : >:
> : >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> : >: ...
> : >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some
> may
> : >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
> : >: >
> : >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
> : >Win98SE
> : >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as
> long
> : >as
> : >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
> : >: >
> : >: >> Angel wrote:
> : >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
> reason
> : >I
> : >: >>> am
> : >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not
> load
> : >: >>> it
> : >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I
> have
> : >: >>> to
> : >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It
> is
> a
> : >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements
> were
> : >: >>> for
> : >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is
> a
> : >: >>> Windows
> : >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> : >: >>> Angel
> : >: >
> : >: >
> : >:
> : >:
> : >
> :
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Your information is woefully wrong. There is nothing about ME that makes it
the least bit similar to Win2000 when it comes to hardware.

And when it comes to HP printers, my experience (including the experience of
my clients) is that they are generally more dependable than most.

As for your problem with the camera, after reading your posts over the last
several weeks, my guess would be that it was purely a user error -- you
bought the cheapest camera you could find and then wondered why it turned
out to be a POS. It's a measure of your intelligence (or rather, lack
thereof) that you think this was HP's fault.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:18:01 -0700, Dan
> > wrote:
>
>>I also do not like Epson printers because my dad had one once and it had
>>stupid ink monitoring software that had to be removed. No Epson printer
>>ever
>>again for me unless it is a last resort.
>>
>
> Ink monitoring software?????
> That sounds like a pain.......
>
> The best printers I have owned are Canon and Panasonic. My laser
> printer is a Canon and works well. I still have my old 24 pin dot
> matrix printer from the 90's and it still works.
>
> Another brand I'd avoid is HP. However, I am not basing that on any
> experience with their printers, but on their digital cameras. I got a
> HP digital camera and it was the worst piece of junk I ever owned.
> The photo quality was horrid, and I needed to replace the batteries
> after every 8 to 12 pictures (less if I used the flash). HP never
> even returned my email. Luckily the store exchanged it for another
> brand. I wont buy any HP product again.
>
" wrote:
>>
>>> There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still available.
>>> Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
>>> have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
>>> I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
>>> tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
>>> printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
>>> paper too.
>>>
>>> I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
>>> never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
>>> prefer 98, so I changed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi all,
>>> >
>>> >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it will
>>> >last
>>> >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that will
>>> >work
>>> >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
>>> >
>>> >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out.
>>> >Last
>>> >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
>>> >taking
>>> >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It keeps
>>> >the
>>> >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the
>>> >classes. If
>>> >I didn't, I would not take them.
>>> >
>>> >Angel
>>> >
>>> >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
>>> >supported
>>> >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the
>>> >installation
>>> >: media.
>>> >:
>>> >: --
>>> >: Gary S. Terhune
>>> >: MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> >: http://grystmill.com
>>> >:
>>> >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
>>> >: ...
>>> >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some
>>> >may
>>> >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
>>> >: >
>>> >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
>>> >Win98SE
>>> >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as
>>> >long
>>> >as
>>> >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
>>> >: >
>>> >: >> Angel wrote:
>>> >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
>>> >reason
>>> >I
>>> >: >>> am
>>> >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can not
>>> >load
>>> >: >>> it
>>> >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once. I
>>> >have
>>> >: >>> to
>>> >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000. It
>>> >is a
>>> >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the requirements
>>> >were
>>> >: >>> for
>>> >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which is
>>> >a
>>> >: >>> Windows
>>> >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
>>> >: >>> Angel
>>> >: >
>>> >: >
>>> >:
>>> >:
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>

[Jeff Richards]

This is a common fault for printers and is easily fixed. In fact, the
manufacturer probably has a kit with user-installation instructions
available - certainly HP used to have them. It involves replacing a small
soft pad that is used to apply pressure to the sheets for gripping. Because
it's a soft pad, it goes soggy after years of use.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Angel" > wrote in message
...
>
> <snip<
> :
> My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought I was
> doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them) and from
> then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the top.
> Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one page at
> a
> time now.
>
> I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to the
> printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing even
> though it was not as much paper as the first time.
>

[Angel]

Hi Gary,
I think it was 2 Christmas's ago. He got a new XP for Christmas from his
son. He was going to take all his files off it. The last time I spoke to him
about it he did not have his files off it. That was sometime last year. He
is a Homeopathic Practitioner I know and I go to the meetings with him
Because I do not drive at night. The next meeting I go to I will ask him
again and see what he says. I think it has a printer with it, not sure.
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
: You were promised ME? By whom? And why?
:
: In any case, it won't help your find a printer. If they don't have Win98SE
: drivers, they don't have ME drivers.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: http://grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" > wrote in message
: ...
: >
: > > wrote in message
: > ...
: > : There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still available.
: > : Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
: > : have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
: > : I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
: > : tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
: > : printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
: > : paper too.
: > :
: > My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought I
was
: > doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them) and
from
: > then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the top.
: > Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one page
at
: > a
: > time now.
: >
: > I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to the
: > printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing even
: > though it was not as much paper as the first time.
: >
: > : I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
: > : never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
: > : prefer 98, so I changed it.
: > :
: > I am still waiting for the ME that I was promised over a year ago. I
never
: > worked with WinME. It looks like I won't be working with WinME. I am not
: > going to hold my breath until I get the "ME" promised.
: >
: > Angel
: > :
: > : On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
: > :
: > : >Hi all,
: > : >
: > : >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it
will
: > last
: > : >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that
will
: > work
: > : >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding one.
: > : >
: > : >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out.
: > Last
: > : >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
: > taking
: > : >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It
keeps
: > the
: > : >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the
: > classes.
: > If
: > : >I didn't, I would not take them.
: > : >
: > : >Angel
: > : >
: > : >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : ...
: > : >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
: > : >supported
: > : >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the
: > installation
: > : >: media.
: > : >:
: > : >: --
: > : >: Gary S. Terhune
: > : >: MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : >: http://grystmill.com
: > : >:
: > : >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
: > : >: ...
: > : >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However, some
: > may
: > : >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
: > : >: >
: > : >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for the
: > : >Win98SE
: > : >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer, as
: > long
: > : >as
: > : >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >> Angel wrote:
: > : >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000? The
: > reason
: > : >I
: > : >: >>> am
: > : >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can
not
: > load
: > : >: >>> it
: > : >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at once.
I
: > have
: > : >: >>> to
: > : >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000.
It
: > is
: > a
: > : >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the
requirements
: > were
: > : >: >>> for
: > : >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer which
is
: > a
: > : >: >>> Windows
: > : >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: > : >: >>> Angel
: > : >: >
: > : >: >
: > : >:
: > : >:
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Good luck!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Angel" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Gary,
> I think it was 2 Christmas's ago. He got a new XP for Christmas from his
> son. He was going to take all his files off it. The last time I spoke to
> him
> about it he did not have his files off it. That was sometime last year. He
> is a Homeopathic Practitioner I know and I go to the meetings with him
> Because I do not drive at night. The next meeting I go to I will ask him
> again and see what he says. I think it has a printer with it, not sure.
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
> : You were promised ME? By whom? And why?
> :
> : In any case, it won't help your find a printer. If they don't have
> Win98SE
> : drivers, they don't have ME drivers.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : http://grystmill.com
> :
> : "Angel" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : >
> : > > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : > : There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still
> available.
> : > : Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future. They
> : > : have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
> : > : I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although it
> : > : tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
> : > : printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be the
> : > : paper too.
> : > :
> : > My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought I
> was
> : > doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them) and
> from
> : > then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the
> top.
> : > Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one page
> at
> : > a
> : > time now.
> : >
> : > I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to
> the
> : > printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing even
> : > though it was not as much paper as the first time.
> : >
> : > : I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000. I
> : > : never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
> : > : prefer 98, so I changed it.
> : > :
> : > I am still waiting for the ME that I was promised over a year ago. I
> never
> : > worked with WinME. It looks like I won't be working with WinME. I am
> not
> : > going to hold my breath until I get the "ME" promised.
> : >
> : > Angel
> : > :
> : > : On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" > wrote:
> : > :
> : > : >Hi all,
> : > : >
> : > : >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope it
> will
> : > last
> : > : >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that
> will
> : > work
> : > : >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding
> one.
> : > : >
> : > : >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work out.
> : > Last
> : > : >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I am
> : > taking
> : > : >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It
> keeps
> : > the
> : > : >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the
> : > classes.
> : > If
> : > : >I didn't, I would not take them.
> : > : >
> : > : >Angel
> : > : >
> : > : >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : ...
> : > : >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed as
> : > : >supported
> : > : >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the
> : > installation
> : > : >: media.
> : > : >:
> : > : >: --
> : > : >: Gary S. Terhune
> : > : >: MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : >: http://grystmill.com
> : > : >:
> : > : >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
> : > : >: ...
> : > : >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However,
> some
> : > may
> : > : >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
> : > : >: >
> : > : >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for
> the
> : > : >Win98SE
> : > : >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB printer,
> as
> : > long
> : > : >as
> : > : >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
> : > : >: >
> : > : >: >> Angel wrote:
> : > : >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000?
> The
> : > reason
> : > : >I
> : > : >: >>> am
> : > : >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I can
> not
> : > load
> : > : >: >>> it
> : > : >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at
> once.
> I
> : > have
> : > : >: >>> to
> : > : >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer, 10/30/2000.
> It
> : > is
> : > a
> : > : >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the
> requirements
> : > were
> : > : >: >>> for
> : > : >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer
> which
> is
> : > a
> : > : >: >>> Windows
> : > : >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
> : > : >: >>> Angel
> : > : >: >
> : > : >: >
> : > : >:
> : > : >:
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

[Angel]

Hi Gary,

Did not have any luck with getting the computer. He still has not taken his
files off it as yet. I spoke to him last night on the way to the Homeopathic
Group Meeting. It has been 2 years this coming January that it was promised.
I reminded him of that. For now, that computer is out.

Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
: Good luck!
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: http://grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Hi Gary,
: > I think it was 2 Christmas's ago. He got a new XP for Christmas from his
: > son. He was going to take all his files off it. The last time I spoke to
: > him
: > about it he did not have his files off it. That was sometime last year.
He
: > is a Homeopathic Practitioner I know and I go to the meetings with him
: > Because I do not drive at night. The next meeting I go to I will ask him
: > again and see what he says. I think it has a printer with it, not sure.
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > ...
: > : You were promised ME? By whom? And why?
: > :
: > : In any case, it won't help your find a printer. If they don't have
: > Win98SE
: > : drivers, they don't have ME drivers.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : http://grystmill.com
: > :
: > : "Angel" > wrote in message
: > : ...
: > : >
: > : > > wrote in message
: > : > ...
: > : > : There are probably a lot of brand new older printers still
: > available.
: > : > : Check some online auctions. I'd avoid Lexmark in the future.
They
: > : > : have a bad reputation and are the most expensive printer for ink.
: > : > : I bought a used Canon Laser printer and it works well. Although
it
: > : > : tends to pull several sheets of paper at once too. I think all
: > : > : printers do that at least once and awhile. Part of it might be
the
: > : > : paper too.
: > : > :
: > : > My printer does it most of the time. When it first did it, I thought
I
: > was
: > : > doing something wrong . It pulled a lot through (staggering them)
and
: > from
: > : > then on, it did it a lot. It would print all pages a little at the
: > top.
: > : > Because I do not want to waste a lot of paper, I only feed it one
page
: > at
: > : > a
: > : > time now.
: > : >
: > : > I thought that when it did that the first time, it did something to
: > the
: > : > printer. I have tried different papers. and it did the same thing
even
: > : > though it was not as much paper as the first time.
: > : >
: > : > : I was told that a computer that runs WinME can also run Win2000.
I
: > : > : never tried it though. My computer came with Win2000, but I still
: > : > : prefer 98, so I changed it.
: > : > :
: > : > I am still waiting for the ME that I was promised over a year ago. I
: > never
: > : > worked with WinME. It looks like I won't be working with WinME. I am
: > not
: > : > going to hold my breath until I get the "ME" promised.
: > : >
: > : > Angel
: > : > :
: > : > : On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0400, "Angel" >
wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : >Hi all,
: > : > : >
: > : > : >I guess I will have to "nurse " this old printer along and hope
it
: > will
: > : > last
: > : > : >as long as this computer. I have been looking around for one that
: > will
: > : > work
: > : > : >with this OS. I have not found one yet. Wish me luck on finding
: > one.
: > : > : >
: > : > : >When classes start on Monday, this old printer will get a work
out.
: > : > Last
: > : > : >year the Prof. called my computer "an old dinosaur". Yes Gary, I
am
: > : > taking
: > : > : >classes again. This one is called "Philosophy of Expression". It
: > keeps
: > : > the
: > : > : >mind from going stale. It challenges it. Of course, I enjoy the
: > : > classes.
: > : > If
: > : > : >I didn't, I would not take them.
: > : > : >
: > : > : >Angel
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : ...
: > : > : >: Worse, there are many out there being sold with Win98SE listed
as
: > : > : >supported
: > : > : >: but for which support has been removed or disabled in the
: > : > installation
: > : > : >: media.
: > : > : >:
: > : > : >: --
: > : > : >: Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : >: MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : >: http://grystmill.com
: > : > : >:
: > : > : >: "Bill in Co." > wrote in message
: > : > : >: ...
: > : > : >: > It's getting harder to find a printer for Win98. However,
: > some
: > : > may
: > : > : >: > still have Win98 drivers for it.
: > : > : >: >
: > : > : >: > I don't know if they make parallel port printers anymore (for
: > the
: > : > : >Win98SE
: > : > : >: > computers), but you can always consider getting a USB
printer,
: > as
: > : > long
: > : > : >as
: > : > : >: > it has Win98SE capability, but even that is limited now.
: > : > : >: >
: > : > : >: >> Angel wrote:
: > : > : >: >>> I have a question: Is Windows ME the same as Windows 2000?
: > The
: > : > reason
: > : > : >I
: > : > : >: >>> am
: > : > : >: >>> asking is because my printer is not what it used to be. I
can
: > not
: > : > load
: > : > : >: >>> it
: > : > : >: >>> with paper, it jams or all pages go through almost all at
: > once.
: > I
: > : > have
: > : > : >: >>> to
: > : > : >: >>> feed it one page at a time. I bought the printer,
10/30/2000.
: > It
: > : > is
: > : > a
: > : > : >: >>> Lexmark Z51. I was looking at a new printer and the
: > requirements
: > : > were
: > : > : >: >>> for
: > : > : >: >>> one, Windows 2000 or later. I am still using my computer
: > which
: > is
: > : > a
: > : > : >: >>> Windows
: > : > : >: >>> 98SE, bought 6/1/2000.
: > : > : >: >>> Angel
: > : > : >: >
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