system configuration utility [msconfig.exe]

[Jim]

What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want to
delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?

[philo]

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
to
> delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
>
>

To edit autoexec.bat you can just open it in notepad and remove the line you
don't want.

Or else run sysedit to get to it

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or highlight
it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method, since it
leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a "Normal"
startup anymore.

You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in Autoexec.bat,
then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.

The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in Win98.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
> to
> delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
>
>

[Jim]

Thanks, I forgot the name of that program. I thought there was a program
similar too msconfig.exe that would leave a yellow pencil on the line when
editing. The only access [right click or edit button] in the msconfig does
not have a delete...!? I remember some kind of program like that and
although sysedit will work that is not the one I thinking of... Do you
recall this editing program?
"philo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
> to
> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
> >
> >
>
> To edit autoexec.bat you can just open it in notepad and remove the line
you
> don't want.
>
> Or else run sysedit to get to it
>
>

[Jim]

An interesting side point; I have a few blank lines with checked mark. I
thought it was part of the network boot or was some proprietary MS lines, so
I left them in the batch. Would I run into problem if I delete those lines.
Also, I can do a boot without these in msconfig like clean boot in the
windows environment.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or highlight
> it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method, since
it
> leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a
"Normal"
> startup anymore.
>
> You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in Autoexec.bat,
> then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.
>
> The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in
Win98.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
> > to
> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
> >
> >
>
>

[Don Phillipson[_5_]]

"Jim" > wrote in message
...

> What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
to
> delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> left after an uninstall.

Have you tried restarting Win98 without AUTOEXEC.BAT?
It is only a legacy from Win95 (which did require it: Win98
does not, this being one of its major points of difference from Win95.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Jim]

thanks Don, the sysedit program did the trick. I am aware of this phenomenon
of win98. If you uncheck a screen or a line the only execution is the MS
flagged lines.
"Don Phillipson" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
> to
> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> > left after an uninstall.
>
> Have you tried restarting Win98 without AUTOEXEC.BAT?
> It is only a legacy from Win95 (which did require it: Win98
> does not, this being one of its major points of difference from Win95.)
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

I don't understand your last sentence.

When you uncheck a line in any of those files (Autoexec.bat, Config.sys,
System.ini, Win.ini, etc.), we'll call one TESTING, for example, you get the
following result in the file itself:

rem TShoot: TESTING

If you simply highlight and delete the entire text in MSCONFIG, you get left
with a pencil icon and the file itself changes it to:

Rem TShoot: TESTING

Note the difference in case of the first 'R'.

Edit at the file(s) directly, either right-clicking the file and then
clicking Edit for a BAT file, or simply d-clicking INI files, or using
SYSEDIT. Find lines that begin the second way and you'll possibly have your
answer, though MSCONFIG is NOT the only thing that will create such line
edits. You'll have to figure out for yourself

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> An interesting side point; I have a few blank lines with checked mark. I
> thought it was part of the network boot or was some proprietary MS lines,
> so
> I left them in the batch. Would I run into problem if I delete those
> lines.
> Also, I can do a boot without these in msconfig like clean boot in the
> windows environment.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
>> You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or
>> highlight
>> it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method, since
> it
>> leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a
> "Normal"
>> startup anymore.
>>
>> You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in
>> Autoexec.bat,
>> then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.
>>
>> The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in
> Win98.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I
>> > want
>> > to
>> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat
>> > file
>> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
>> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[philo]

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks, I forgot the name of that program. I thought there was a program
> similar too msconfig.exe that would leave a yellow pencil on the line when
> editing. The only access [right click or edit button] in the msconfig does
> not have a delete...!? I remember some kind of program like that and
> although sysedit will work that is not the one I thinking of... Do you
> recall this editing program?
> "


Well nothing simpler than opening a comman prompt

and the the C: prompt

just type:


edit autoexec.bat


or else just rename it to autoexec.txt

then open it in notepad, edit it then save it as autoexec.bat

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

You can right-click>Edit to open BAT files in Notepad.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"philo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks, I forgot the name of that program. I thought there was a program
>> similar too msconfig.exe that would leave a yellow pencil on the line
>> when
>> editing. The only access [right click or edit button] in the msconfig
>> does
>> not have a delete...!? I remember some kind of program like that and
>> although sysedit will work that is not the one I thinking of... Do you
>> recall this editing program?
>> "
>
>
> Well nothing simpler than opening a comman prompt
>
> and the the C: prompt
>
> just type:
>
>
> edit autoexec.bat
>
>
> or else just rename it to autoexec.txt
>
> then open it in notepad, edit it then save it as autoexec.bat
>
>

[philo]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> You can right-click>Edit to open BAT files in Notepad.
>
>


Duh!!!!


That's the easy way to do it.

I missed that ...sheesh !



> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "philo" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Jim" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Thanks, I forgot the name of that program. I thought there was a
program
> >> similar too msconfig.exe that would leave a yellow pencil on the line
> >> when
> >> editing. The only access [right click or edit button] in the msconfig
> >> does
> >> not have a delete...!? I remember some kind of program like that and
> >> although sysedit will work that is not the one I thinking of... Do you
> >> recall this editing program?
> >> "
> >
> >
> > Well nothing simpler than opening a comman prompt
> >
> > and the the C: prompt
> >
> > just type:
> >
> >
> > edit autoexec.bat
> >
> >
> > or else just rename it to autoexec.txt
> >
> > then open it in notepad, edit it then save it as autoexec.bat
> >
> >
>
>

[Jim]

You answered my question about the pencil icon. It has been awhile since I
had to do anything in the editing of msconfig. I have some check lines that
are blank and no rem or Rem and a few comment lines that are REM with notes.
I guess I should just leave it alone since works ok; a sort of "If it works
don't fix it!" idea. Thank-you.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> I don't understand your last sentence.
>
> When you uncheck a line in any of those files (Autoexec.bat, Config.sys,
> System.ini, Win.ini, etc.), we'll call one TESTING, for example, you get
the
> following result in the file itself:
>
> rem TShoot: TESTING
>
> If you simply highlight and delete the entire text in MSCONFIG, you get
left
> with a pencil icon and the file itself changes it to:
>
> Rem TShoot: TESTING
>
> Note the difference in case of the first 'R'.
>
> Edit at the file(s) directly, either right-clicking the file and then
> clicking Edit for a BAT file, or simply d-clicking INI files, or using
> SYSEDIT. Find lines that begin the second way and you'll possibly have
your
> answer, though MSCONFIG is NOT the only thing that will create such line
> edits. You'll have to figure out for yourself
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > An interesting side point; I have a few blank lines with checked mark. I
> > thought it was part of the network boot or was some proprietary MS
lines,
> > so
> > I left them in the batch. Would I run into problem if I delete those
> > lines.
> > Also, I can do a boot without these in msconfig like clean boot in the
> > windows environment.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or
> >> highlight
> >> it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method,
since
> > it
> >> leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a
> > "Normal"
> >> startup anymore.
> >>
> >> You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in
> >> Autoexec.bat,
> >> then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.
> >>
> >> The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in
> > Win98.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I
> >> > want
> >> > to
> >> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat
> >> > file
> >> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> >> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Personally, I'd want to clean up all that garbage. Figure out why they are
the way they are and, based upon that, do some to-the-bone editing. Heck,
even if you don't clean them up, don't you at least want to know why they're
there in the first place? You can always save a few backups first, for
safety's sake.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> You answered my question about the pencil icon. It has been awhile since I
> had to do anything in the editing of msconfig. I have some check lines
> that
> are blank and no rem or Rem and a few comment lines that are REM with
> notes.
> I guess I should just leave it alone since works ok; a sort of "If it
> works
> don't fix it!" idea. Thank-you.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
>> I don't understand your last sentence.
>>
>> When you uncheck a line in any of those files (Autoexec.bat, Config.sys,
>> System.ini, Win.ini, etc.), we'll call one TESTING, for example, you get
> the
>> following result in the file itself:
>>
>> rem TShoot: TESTING
>>
>> If you simply highlight and delete the entire text in MSCONFIG, you get
> left
>> with a pencil icon and the file itself changes it to:
>>
>> Rem TShoot: TESTING
>>
>> Note the difference in case of the first 'R'.
>>
>> Edit at the file(s) directly, either right-clicking the file and then
>> clicking Edit for a BAT file, or simply d-clicking INI files, or using
>> SYSEDIT. Find lines that begin the second way and you'll possibly have
> your
>> answer, though MSCONFIG is NOT the only thing that will create such line
>> edits. You'll have to figure out for yourself
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > An interesting side point; I have a few blank lines with checked mark.
>> > I
>> > thought it was part of the network boot or was some proprietary MS
> lines,
>> > so
>> > I left them in the batch. Would I run into problem if I delete those
>> > lines.
>> > Also, I can do a boot without these in msconfig like clean boot in the
>> > windows environment.
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or
>> >> highlight
>> >> it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method,
> since
>> > it
>> >> leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a
>> > "Normal"
>> >> startup anymore.
>> >>
>> >> You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in
>> >> Autoexec.bat,
>> >> then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.
>> >>
>> >> The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in
>> > Win98.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Jim" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat
>> >> > file
>> >> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
>> >> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[Jim]

Good point. When I cleared the one line I originally discussed, there was no
check box after it was cleared in sysedit. The stuff that had been leftover
was for AV bootscans. The highlighted blank lines with the check box checked
are of variable lengths which means that something was there and probably
d-clicked edited and erased via a backspace instead of the edit > clear.
Much of this is in a section of the, rem - By Windows 98 Network -
c:\windows\net start. It might be hidden lines (but why?) or was erased by
some uninstall or rewrite or author thought it looked better this way. I
don't know.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> Personally, I'd want to clean up all that garbage. Figure out why they are
> the way they are and, based upon that, do some to-the-bone editing. Heck,
> even if you don't clean them up, don't you at least want to know why
they're
> there in the first place? You can always save a few backups first, for
> safety's sake.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You answered my question about the pencil icon. It has been awhile since
I
> > had to do anything in the editing of msconfig. I have some check lines
> > that
> > are blank and no rem or Rem and a few comment lines that are REM with
> > notes.
> > I guess I should just leave it alone since works ok; a sort of "If it
> > works
> > don't fix it!" idea. Thank-you.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I don't understand your last sentence.
> >>
> >> When you uncheck a line in any of those files (Autoexec.bat,
Config.sys,
> >> System.ini, Win.ini, etc.), we'll call one TESTING, for example, you
get
> > the
> >> following result in the file itself:
> >>
> >> rem TShoot: TESTING
> >>
> >> If you simply highlight and delete the entire text in MSCONFIG, you get
> > left
> >> with a pencil icon and the file itself changes it to:
> >>
> >> Rem TShoot: TESTING
> >>
> >> Note the difference in case of the first 'R'.
> >>
> >> Edit at the file(s) directly, either right-clicking the file and then
> >> clicking Edit for a BAT file, or simply d-clicking INI files, or using
> >> SYSEDIT. Find lines that begin the second way and you'll possibly have
> > your
> >> answer, though MSCONFIG is NOT the only thing that will create such
line
> >> edits. You'll have to figure out for yourself
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > An interesting side point; I have a few blank lines with checked
mark.
> >> > I
> >> > thought it was part of the network boot or was some proprietary MS
> > lines,
> >> > so
> >> > I left them in the batch. Would I run into problem if I delete those
> >> > lines.
> >> > Also, I can do a boot without these in msconfig like clean boot in
the
> >> > windows environment.
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> You can edit it directly in MSCONFIG. Iether d-click the text or
> >> >> highlight
> >> >> it and click on the Edit button. This is my least favorite method,
> > since
> >> > it
> >> >> leaves a blank line that has to remain checked or you won't have a
> >> > "Normal"
> >> >> startup anymore.
> >> >>
> >> >> You answered your own question. If the lines involved are in
> >> >> Autoexec.bat,
> >> >> then you simply edit Autoexec.bat.
> >> >>
> >> >> The editing tool you're referring to is SYSEDIT. It's still there in
> >> > Win98.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jim" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case
I
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > delete the line which refers to removed software in the
autoexe.bat
> >> >> > file
> >> >> > left after an uninstall. What was the editing tool prior to this
> >> >> > msconfig.exe, sysconfig or something?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

Autoexec.bat and similar features in Windows 98 is just one reason I really
enjoy using the os. I like all these features and I like that 98 has the
underlying maintenance operating system of DOS. It helps me feel safe.

"Jim" wrote:

> thanks Don, the sysedit program did the trick. I am aware of this phenomenon
> of win98. If you uncheck a screen or a line the only execution is the MS
> flagged lines.
> "Don Phillipson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Jim" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > What is the best way to edit a line in msconfig.exe? In this case I want
> > to
> > > delete the line which refers to removed software in the autoexe.bat file
> > > left after an uninstall.
> >
> > Have you tried restarting Win98 without AUTOEXEC.BAT?
> > It is only a legacy from Win95 (which did require it: Win98
> > does not, this being one of its major points of difference from Win95.)
> >
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Jim]

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Autoexec.bat and similar features in Windows 98 is just one reason I
really
> enjoy using the os. I like all these features and I like that 98 has the
> underlying maintenance operating system of DOS. It helps me feel safe.
>
Actually win98 does not need this to run. win95 and 3.1 etc. did. I agree
with the that feeling though. It is a fun system to study with and the only
drawback for us is the lack of sufficient system resources. I do feel that
writers of software should be as efficient as possible and the programs
getting written from 2k on with xp are bloated bundled bs. They would have
flunked them in the 70's and 80's for not being as trim as that. The other
thing that MS should have done with the kernel abstraction layer is boost
the EAL of CC to 4 or 5 like win2k pro is. There are programs on CS in the
70's that had the highest ratings label of top secret [military and state]
at kernel abstraction layer like Bell-LaPadulla and Biba along with roles
labeling could function without a firewall because the user would need a
privileged smartcard or better to gain access to those files. The public
domain does not need that high of CS but enough for being secure and safe
with there data at that layer and labeling is realizable.

[Dan]

Thanks for your reply, Jim. When the APS Network was hacked, my Windows XP
Professional Service Pack 2 was completely wiped. The hacker(s) could only
cause VPN to crash in Windows 98 Second Edition and could not touch anything
because of its internal safety. Google Chris Quirke, MVP for more details
and see:

http://secunia.com/product/13/?task=advisories (98 Second Edition)

http://secunia.com/product/22/?task=advisories (XP Professional)

http://secunia.com/product/1/?task=advisories (windows 2000)

http://cquirke.blogspot.com/

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/riskfix.htm

and of course my favorite us-cert.gov



"Jim" wrote:

>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Autoexec.bat and similar features in Windows 98 is just one reason I
> really
> > enjoy using the os. I like all these features and I like that 98 has the
> > underlying maintenance operating system of DOS. It helps me feel safe.
> >
> Actually win98 does not need this to run. win95 and 3.1 etc. did. I agree
> with the that feeling though. It is a fun system to study with and the only
> drawback for us is the lack of sufficient system resources. I do feel that
> writers of software should be as efficient as possible and the programs
> getting written from 2k on with xp are bloated bundled bs. They would have
> flunked them in the 70's and 80's for not being as trim as that. The other
> thing that MS should have done with the kernel abstraction layer is boost
> the EAL of CC to 4 or 5 like win2k pro is. There are programs on CS in the
> 70's that had the highest ratings label of top secret [military and state]
> at kernel abstraction layer like Bell-LaPadulla and Biba along with roles
> labeling could function without a firewall because the user would need a
> privileged smartcard or better to gain access to those files. The public
> domain does not need that high of CS but enough for being secure and safe
> with there data at that layer and labeling is realizable.
>
>
>