Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

[brbrown]

For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes
on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I
can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose
to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a
time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

[Don Phillipson[_5_]]

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...

> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
in case Win98 has been preloaded.

3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
BootGUI=1
which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
update from the MS web site.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Ron Badour[_2_]]

Not sure this will work but it doesn't cost anything to try. Boot with a
floppy start up disk. At the A: prompt, type: C: and hit enter. At
the C: prompt, type: exit and hit enter. Remove the disk and try
rebooting.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>

[glee]

Does it start successfully in Safe Mode?

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[brbrown]

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> freezes
> > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> I
> > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> choose
> > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> at a
> > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>
> 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
>
> 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> in case Win98 has been preloaded.
>
> 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> BootGUI=1
> which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
>
> 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> update from the MS web site.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
> Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>

[Dan]

Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any
more error messages that you run into.

"brbrown" wrote:

>
>
> "Don Phillipson" wrote:
>
> > "brbrown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> > freezes
> > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> > I
> > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> > choose
> > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> > at a
> > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
> >
> > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
> >
> > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
> >
> > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> > BootGUI=1
> > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
> >
> > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> > update from the MS web site.
> >
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)
> >
> > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >

[brbrown]

"Dan" wrote:

> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any
> more error messages that you run into.
>
> "brbrown" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
> >
> > > "brbrown" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> > > freezes
> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> > > I
> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> > > choose
> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> > > at a
> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
> > >
> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
> > >
> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
> > >
> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> > > BootGUI=1
> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
> > >
> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> > > update from the MS web site.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Don Phillipson
> > > Carlsbad Springs
> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
> > >
> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> > >

Hello Folks

I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
can't connect to the internet.

[MEB[_2_]]

You likely need to install at least 5.1 of IE. It contained numerous
Internet/connection related updates... and you'll need the system updates as
well.
NOTE that if you're running SE, you MAY need IE6 installed to get full
functionality.

Make sure you have installed DUN and its update, and set your TCP/IP
properly.

Are you behind a router, firewall, >>> exactly how do you connect to the
Internet normally?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
|
|
| "Dan" wrote:
|
| > Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and
any
| > more error messages that you run into.
| >
| > "brbrown" wrote:
| >
| > >
| > >
| > > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
| > >
| > > > "brbrown" > wrote in message
| > > > ...
| > > >
| > > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up..
It
| > > > freezes
| > > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos
key is
| > > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The
only way
| > > > I
| > > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I
can
| > > > choose
| > > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
applications one
| > > > at a
| > > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
| > > >
| > > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
| > > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
| > > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
| > > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
| > > >
| > > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
| > > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
| > > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
| > > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
| > > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
| > > >
| > > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
| > > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
| > > > BootGUI=1
| > > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
| > > >
| > > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
| > > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
| > > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
| > > > update from the MS web site.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Don Phillipson
| > > > Carlsbad Springs
| > > > (Ottawa, Canada)
| > > >
| > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no
avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet
managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer).
Many thanks anyway for all your help.
| > > >
|
| Hello Folks
|
| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but
I
| cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
| which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
| can't connect to the internet.

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Just in case... Start>Run>WINIPCFG<enter>

Press Release All, then press Renew All. What are the returns?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and
>> any
>> more error messages that you run into.
>>
>> "brbrown" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
>> >
>> > > "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
>> > > freezes
>> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos
>> > > > key is
>> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The
>> > > > only way
>> > > I
>> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I
>> > > > can
>> > > choose
>> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
>> > > > applications one
>> > > at a
>> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>> > >
>> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
>> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
>> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
>> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
>> > >
>> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
>> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
>> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
>> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
>> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
>> > >
>> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
>> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
>> > > BootGUI=1
>> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
>> > >
>> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
>> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
>> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
>> > > update from the MS web site.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Don Phillipson
>> > > Carlsbad Springs
>> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
>> > >
>> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no
>> > > avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just
>> > > decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful
>> > > although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam
>> > > writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your
>> > > help.
>> > >
>
> Hello Folks
>
> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but
> I
> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> can't connect to the internet.

[PCR]

brbrown wrote:
| "Dan" wrote:
|
|> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress
|> and any more error messages that you run into.
|>
|> "brbrown" wrote:
|>
|> >
|> >
|> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
|> >
|> > > "brbrown" > wrote in message
|> > > ...
|> > >
|> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start
|> > > > up.. It
|> > > freezes
|> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the
|> > > > "Dos key is installed" and "Mode select code page function is
|> > > > completed". The only way
|> > > I
|> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which
|> > > > I can
|> > > choose
|> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
|> > > > applications one
|> > > at a
|> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
|> > >
|> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
|> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
|> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
|> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
|> > >
|> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
|> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
|> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
|> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
|> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
|> > >
|> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
|> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
|> > > BootGUI=1
|> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
|> > >
|> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
|> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
|> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
|> > > update from the MS web site.
|> > >
|> > > --
|> > > Don Phillipson
|> > > Carlsbad Springs
|> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
|> > >
|> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to
|> > > no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have
|> > > just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been
|> > > successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the
|> > > internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks
|> > > anyway for all your help.
|> > >
|
| Hello Folks
|
| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting
| but I cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean
| restore of W98 which was successful although I still haven't been
| able to find out why I can't connect to the internet.

Did you do...?...

(a) a fresh install from a Win98 Installation CD,
(b) a system restore from a manufacturer's CD, or
(c) a system restore from a full system backup of your own?

If your version of IE is not at least v.5.5 (or so), you must upgrade it
before you may use Windows Update, as Terhune once discovered. However,
the rest of the internet should work just fine in the meantime-- PA Bear
said!

Is your modem (if you use one) showing well in Device Manager, without
any red/yellow ?/! on it?

Did you reinstall your ISP & click its connectoid? That may be all you
need to do. If it fails, perhaps try...

"START, Programs, Accessories, Communications, Internet Connections
Wizard"


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

[Ben Myers[_3_]]

"brbrown" > wrote in message ...
<snip>>
> > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>
> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> can't connect to the internet.

Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

Ben

[brbrown]

"Ben Myers" wrote:

> "brbrown" > wrote in message ...
> <snip>>
> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >
> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> > can't connect to the internet.
>
> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
>
> Ben
>
Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
I'll post again with the results

[glee]

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ben Myers" wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> <snip>>
>> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail
>> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
>> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't
>> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP
>> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>> >
>> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
>> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
>> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
>> > can't connect to the internet.
>>
>> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
>> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
>> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
>>
>> Ben
>>
> Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
> cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
> MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
> I'll post again with the results

The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
using Ethernet.

See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
cathyj :
http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[brbrown]

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "Ben Myers" wrote:
> >
> >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> <snip>>
> >> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail
> >> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
> >> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't
> >> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP
> >> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >> >
> >> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> >> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> >> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> >> > can't connect to the internet.
> >>
> >> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
> >> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
> >> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> > Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
> > cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
> > MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
> > I'll post again with the results
>
> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
> using Ethernet.
>
> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
> cathyj :
> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst using the ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I was able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My problem though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to download the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot now find the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I chose the wrong one. Brian

[glee]

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
> "glee" wrote:
>>
>> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
>> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
>> using Ethernet.
>>
>> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
>> cathyj :
>> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>>
>>
>Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst
using the
>ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I
>was
>able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My
>problem
>though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to
>download
>the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot
>now find
>the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely
>looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I
>chose the
>wrong one. Brian

First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching
back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue
was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up
using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid
driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[brbrown]

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >>
> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
> >> using Ethernet.
> >>
> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
> >> cathyj :
> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> >>
> >>
> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst
> using the
> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I
> >was
> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My
> >problem
> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to
> >download
> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot
> >now find
> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely
> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I
> >chose the
> >wrong one. Brian
>
> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching
> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue
> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up
> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>
> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid
> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
>> >> Are you
>> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
>> >> strongly suggest
>> >> using Ethernet.
>> >>
>> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
>> >> posts by
>> >> cathyj :
>> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
>> though, whilst
>> using the
>> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
>> >at all and I
>> >was
>> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
>> >back on. My
>> >problem
>> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
>> >had to
>> >download
>> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
>> >I cannot
>> >now find
>> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
>> >each likely
>> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
>> >when I
>> >chose the
>> >wrong one. Brian
>>
>> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
>> switching
>> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
>> poster's issue
>> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
>> it up
>> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>>
>> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
>> avoid
>> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
>> with it?
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP
>> desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I
>> considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card
>> with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine
>> though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

[brbrown]

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
>
> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
>
> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
> >> >> Are you
> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
> >> >> strongly suggest
> >> >> using Ethernet.
> >> >>
> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
> >> >> posts by
> >> >> cathyj :
> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
> >> though, whilst
> >> using the
> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
> >> >at all and I
> >> >was
> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
> >> >back on. My
> >> >problem
> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
> >> >had to
> >> >download
> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
> >> >I cannot
> >> >now find
> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
> >> >each likely
> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
> >> >when I
> >> >chose the
> >> >wrong one. Brian
> >>
> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
> >> switching
> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
> >> poster's issue
> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
> >> it up
> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
> >>
> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
> >> avoid
> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
> >> with it?
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> >> http://dts-l.net/
> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an
email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet
cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
"pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks
for the lead.
Brian













>
>

[brbrown]

"brbrown" wrote:

>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
> > 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
> >
> > 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
> > http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
> >
> > Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
> > outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
> > drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
> > look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "brbrown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >
> > >> > "glee" wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
> > >> >> Are you
> > >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
> > >> >> strongly suggest
> > >> >> using Ethernet.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
> > >> >> posts by
> > >> >> cathyj :
> > >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
> > >> though, whilst
> > >> using the
> > >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
> > >> >at all and I
> > >> >was
> > >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
> > >> >back on. My
> > >> >problem
> > >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
> > >> >had to
> > >> >download
> > >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
> > >> >I cannot
> > >> >now find
> > >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
> > >> >each likely
> > >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
> > >> >when I
> > >> >chose the
> > >> >wrong one. Brian
> > >>
> > >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
> > >> switching
> > >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
> > >> poster's issue
> > >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
> > >> it up
> > >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
> > >>
> > >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
> > >> avoid
> > >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
> > >> with it?
> > >> --
> > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > >> http://dts-l.net/
> > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an
> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet
> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks
> for the lead.
> Brian
>
> Garry, assuming I install the D Link adapter, can you recommend a 5 port switch to enable me to network my XP desktop, my Vista laptop and my W98 desktop please? Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system,
including at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet
adapter. It's how they've been networking things since 1980. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
>>
>> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
>> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
>>
>> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just
>> two
>> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even
>> Win95
>> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
>> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > "glee" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a
>> >> >> router.
>> >> >> Are you
>> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
>> >> >> strongly suggest
>> >> >> using Ethernet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page,
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> posts by
>> >> >> cathyj :
>> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
>> >> though, whilst
>> >> using the
>> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no
>> >> >problem
>> >> >at all and I
>> >> >was
>> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
>> >> >back on. My
>> >> >problem
>> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously
>> >> >I
>> >> >had to
>> >> >download
>> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only.
>> >> >However
>> >> >I cannot
>> >> >now find
>> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk
>> >> >trying
>> >> >each likely
>> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a
>> >> >Restore
>> >> >when I
>> >> >chose the
>> >> >wrong one. Brian
>> >>
>> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off
>> >> and
>> >> switching
>> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
>> >> poster's issue
>> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to
>> >> set
>> >> it up
>> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>> >>
>> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying
>> >> to
>> >> avoid
>> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
>> >> with it?
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> >> http://dts-l.net/
>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to
> an
> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any
> ethernet
> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine.
> Thanks
> for the lead.
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

http://tinyurl.com/5omola (Amazon.com)

Any of these will work. I have no preferences, but because I started out
with Linksys, I tend to stay with it. (There's a $10 rebate to bring the
price down to $8.48 and free shipping if you order in the next three days.)

There are no drivers involved. Just remember that a true switch requires a
power supply. However, you have no need for gigabit speeds, so you can cut
cost that way (look for anything not "gigabit" or not 10/100/1000, just
10/100.) Unless you want to consider the future replacement of the
modem/router you're using with one that has gigabit speed, or you want to
add a router to allow internal network gigabit speeds. Just know that to get
gigabit speed, every component in the network must support it. The LAN cards
in the computers, any switches, and especially the router. Note that
anything over 100Mbps LAN speed doesn't won't improve internet speeds until
they go over 100 Mbps, which is a bit farther in the future (but "coming
soon".)

Note that this Linksys card has drivers for Win95. http://tinyurl.com/55vp53
If I looked deeper, I could still find cards that work with DOS (even this
one might.)

My apologies for incorrect assumptions. Had I known that you were having
problems locating hardware, it would have been a more straight-forward
response on my part.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "brbrown" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>
>> > 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
>> >
>> > 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
>> > http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
>> >
>> > Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just
>> > two
>> > outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even
>> > Win95
>> > drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really
>> > didn't
>> > look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS-MVP Shell/User
>> > http://grystmill.com
>> >
>> > "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "glee" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> > >> ...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "glee" wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a
>> > >> >> router.
>> > >> >> Are you
>> > >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
>> > >> >> strongly suggest
>> > >> >> using Ethernet.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the
>> > >> >> page, in
>> > >> >> posts by
>> > >> >> cathyj :
>> > >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
>> > >> though, whilst
>> > >> using the
>> > >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no
>> > >> >problem
>> > >> >at all and I
>> > >> >was
>> > >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after
>> > >> >switching
>> > >> >back on. My
>> > >> >problem
>> > >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so
>> > >> >previously I
>> > >> >had to
>> > >> >download
>> > >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only.
>> > >> >However
>> > >> >I cannot
>> > >> >now find
>> > >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk
>> > >> >trying
>> > >> >each likely
>> > >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a
>> > >> >Restore
>> > >> >when I
>> > >> >chose the
>> > >> >wrong one. Brian
>> > >>
>> > >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching
>> > >> off and
>> > >> switching
>> > >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
>> > >> poster's issue
>> > >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how
>> > >> to set
>> > >> it up
>> > >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are
>> > >> trying to
>> > >> avoid
>> > >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be
>> > >> done
>> > >> with it?
>> > >> --
>> > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> > >> http://dts-l.net/
>> > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a
>> switch
>> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
>> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two
>> that
>> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to
>> an
>> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any
>> ethernet
>> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my
>> router
>> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
>> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
>> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine.
>> Thanks
>> for the lead.
>> Brian
>>
>> Garry, assuming I install the D Link adapter, can you recommend a 5 port
>> switch to enable me to network my XP desktop, my Vista laptop and my W98
>> desktop please? Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >

[glee]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
...
> Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system, including
> at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet adapter. It's how
> they've been networking things since 1980. See:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet
>
> That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

All your links work fine here.....strange that the OP can't use them.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Big Brother (anti-malware apps/settings) at work perhaps?

Which reminds me to go ruffle PA's fur and ask him what's up with Protected
Mode in IE7/Vista. Doesn't work very well (doesn't provide the prompts it's
supposed to) for certain sites, requiring the user to turn it off, which
requires closing all IE and restarting, and the Status Bar indicator doesn't
seem to know that you've turned it back on until after a reboot. Not nice
not to know if PM is actually on or not.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> ...
>> Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system,
>> including at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet
>> adapter. It's how they've been networking things since 1980. See:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet
>>
>> That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.
>
> All your links work fine here.....strange that the OP can't use them.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>

[brbrown]

Hello Gary

Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
I get on. Brian

[brbrown]

Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished
up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.
So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it
would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which
do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where
can I find a driver?

"brbrown" wrote:

>
> Hello Gary
>
> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
> I get on. Brian
>

[John Dulak]

brbrown wrote:
> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
> switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished
> up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.
> So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it
> would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
> searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which
> do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where
> can I find a driver?
>


brbrown:

Try the procedure outlined here:

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp

Also be sure you have the driver for the right VERSION of this card.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp

John


> "brbrown" wrote:
>
>> Hello Gary
>>
>> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
>> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
>> I get on. Brian
>>


--
\\\||///
------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
----------------------------()--------------------------
'' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

[glee]

"John Dulak" > wrote in message
...
> brbrown wrote:
>> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
>> switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished up
>> with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one. So, I
>> installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it would work
>> like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have searched the
>> internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which do not work and I
>> have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where can I find a driver?
>>
>
>
> brbrown:
>
> Try the procedure outlined here:
>
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp
>
> Also be sure you have the driver for the right VERSION of this card.
>
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp
>
> John

Good catch, John! Excellent info there.... very unintuitive way of getting the
drivers installed. If it was Microsoft drivers, they'd say that was a "feature",
not a bug. ;-)

The page in your second link on the two versions of the card is crucial also.

For those who haven't visited John's first link on installing the driver:

<quote>

Question

Message "Windows was unable to install the drivers" or "Drivers not found" when
installing the FA311 or FA312 drivers

Answer

1. Delete the driver files from the hd (Search for fa311).
2. Remove the Client for Microsoft Networks from the network configuration.
3.Remove The network Interface Card from the device manager.
4. Restart Computer.
5. Install the adapter using the display a list of drivers option and direct the
install to the floppy. The drivers should now begin to install. If at the end of the
install it says Windows was unable to install the driver, click Finish.
5. Restart the computer and then go into Device Manager, you will see Netgear Fa311
listed in other devices with an !. It will say the drivers were not installed and to
click reinstall to reinstall the drivers.
6. Click the reinstall driver button.
7. Choose display a list of drivers option, Click Have Disk option, It will bring up
a prompt asking you to insert the Manufacturers diskette, click OK. The drivers will
continue to load and then prompt for a restart. Go ahead and restart at this time.
The drivers should be loaded properly after the restart.

</quote>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Not in the least bit friendly. Based upon the below, I'd recommend that
brbrown return that adapter and get a nice simple Linksys.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> "John Dulak" > wrote in message
> ...
>> brbrown wrote:
>>> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
>>> FS605 switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD
>>> and finished up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows
>>> could find one. So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable
>>> in just in case it would work like you said, without one. Going through
>>> old ground, I have searched the internet and found many options of FA311
>>> drivers three of which do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back
>>> to my old question, where can I find a driver?
>>>
>>
>>
>> brbrown:
>>
>> Try the procedure outlined here:
>>
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp
>>
>> Also be sure you have the driver for the right VERSION of this card.
>>
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp
>>
>> John
>
> Good catch, John! Excellent info there.... very unintuitive way of
> getting the drivers installed. If it was Microsoft drivers, they'd say
> that was a "feature", not a bug. ;-)
>
> The page in your second link on the two versions of the card is crucial
> also.
>
> For those who haven't visited John's first link on installing the driver:
>
> <quote>
>
> Question
>
> Message "Windows was unable to install the drivers" or "Drivers not found"
> when installing the FA311 or FA312 drivers
>
> Answer
>
> 1. Delete the driver files from the hd (Search for fa311).
> 2. Remove the Client for Microsoft Networks from the network
> configuration.
> 3.Remove The network Interface Card from the device manager.
> 4. Restart Computer.
> 5. Install the adapter using the display a list of drivers option and
> direct the install to the floppy. The drivers should now begin to install.
> If at the end of the install it says Windows was unable to install the
> driver, click Finish.
> 5. Restart the computer and then go into Device Manager, you will see
> Netgear Fa311 listed in other devices with an !. It will say the drivers
> were not installed and to click reinstall to reinstall the drivers.
> 6. Click the reinstall driver button.
> 7. Choose display a list of drivers option, Click Have Disk option, It
> will bring up a prompt asking you to insert the Manufacturers diskette,
> click OK. The drivers will continue to load and then prompt for a restart.
> Go ahead and restart at this time. The drivers should be loaded properly
> after the restart.
>
> </quote>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>

[Brian A.]

"brbrown" > wrote in message ...
> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
> switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished
> up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.
> So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it
> would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
> searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which
> do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where
> can I find a driver?
>
> "brbrown" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Gary
>>
>> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
>> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
>> I get on. Brian
>>

I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[brbrown]

Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no floppy)
but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on it
that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
"Brian A." wrote:

> "brbrown" > wrote in message ...
> > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
> > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished
> > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.
> > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it
> > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
> > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which
> > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where
> > can I find a driver?
> >
> > "brbrown" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello Gary
> >>
> >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
> >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
> >> I get on. Brian
> >>
>
> I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Use Find>Files & Folders to search for WIN98*.CAB files. You should find
several dozen, probably in a folder named C:\Windows\Options\CABS. Wherever
that folder is, when asked for your Windows 98 installation CD, point the
dialogue to that folder full of CAB files.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
> Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
> floppy)
> but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on it
> that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
>> > FS605
>> > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and
>> > finished
>> > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find
>> > one.
>> > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case
>> > it
>> > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
>> > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of
>> > which
>> > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question,
>> > where
>> > can I find a driver?
>> >
>> > "brbrown" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hello Gary
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
>> >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you
>> >> know how
>> >> I get on. Brian
>> >>
>>
>> I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy that
>> is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>

[Brian A.]

> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message ...
>> > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605
>> > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished
>> > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.
>> > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it
>> > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have
>> > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which
>> > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where
>> > can I find a driver?
>> >
>> > "brbrown" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hello Gary
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
>> >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how
>> >> I get on. Brian
>> >>
>>
>> I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
"brbrown" > wrote in message ...
>
> Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no floppy)
> but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on it
> that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.

At a guess, the CD might have Win2K, Xp and Vista drivers/files since you just purchased the card. I may be off track yet Netgears support site states those OS's as requirements for the card.

The zip file I'm offering are the files off of the floppy provided with the cards I purchased awhile back which I used in 98/98SE machines.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[brbrown]

Sorry Gary, I meant to add a Smiley. Amazon will no take my Netgear adapter
back as it is not faulty. It's my problem if I haven't got a Windows CD and
it's cheaper to buy another adapter than a CD. Which is the Linksys model you
are using? I will get one.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Not in the least bit friendly. Based upon the below, I'd recommend that
> brbrown return that adapter and get a nice simple Linksys.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "John Dulak" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> brbrown wrote:
> >>> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
> >>> FS605 switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD
> >>> and finished up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows
> >>> could find one. So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable
> >>> in just in case it would work like you said, without one. Going through
> >>> old ground, I have searched the internet and found many options of FA311
> >>> drivers three of which do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back
> >>> to my old question, where can I find a driver?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> brbrown:
> >>
> >> Try the procedure outlined here:
> >>
> >> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp
> >>
> >> Also be sure you have the driver for the right VERSION of this card.
> >>
> >> http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp
> >>
> >> John
> >
> > Good catch, John! Excellent info there.... very unintuitive way of
> > getting the drivers installed. If it was Microsoft drivers, they'd say
> > that was a "feature", not a bug. ;-)
> >
> > The page in your second link on the two versions of the card is crucial
> > also.
> >
> > For those who haven't visited John's first link on installing the driver:
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > Question
> >
> > Message "Windows was unable to install the drivers" or "Drivers not found"
> > when installing the FA311 or FA312 drivers
> >
> > Answer
> >
> > 1. Delete the driver files from the hd (Search for fa311).
> > 2. Remove the Client for Microsoft Networks from the network
> > configuration.
> > 3.Remove The network Interface Card from the device manager.
> > 4. Restart Computer.
> > 5. Install the adapter using the display a list of drivers option and
> > direct the install to the floppy. The drivers should now begin to install.
> > If at the end of the install it says Windows was unable to install the
> > driver, click Finish.
> > 5. Restart the computer and then go into Device Manager, you will see
> > Netgear Fa311 listed in other devices with an !. It will say the drivers
> > were not installed and to click reinstall to reinstall the drivers.
> > 6. Click the reinstall driver button.
> > 7. Choose display a list of drivers option, Click Have Disk option, It
> > will bring up a prompt asking you to insert the Manufacturers diskette,
> > click OK. The drivers will continue to load and then prompt for a restart.
> > Go ahead and restart at this time. The drivers should be loaded properly
> > after the restart.
> >
> > </quote>
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > http://dts-l.net/
> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >
>
>
>

[MEB[_2_]]

Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.

Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set Folder
Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not there
search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially possible
that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other files, as
installed by the manufacturer.

As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the required
Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP. The
likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with its
support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will give
you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
folder/directory.

IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from the
driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the *\Windows\System*
and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32 folders/directories to
see if the required files have already been installed.

Check this registry KEY:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
"SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"

Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
|
| Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
floppy)
| but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on it
| that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
| "Brian A." wrote:
|
| > "brbrown" > wrote in message
...
| > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
FS605
| > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and
finished
| > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find
one.
| > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in
case it
| > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I
have
| > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of
which
| > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question,
where
| > > can I find a driver?
| > >
| > > "brbrown" wrote:
| > >
| > >>
| > >> Hello Gary
| > >>
| > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
| > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you
know how
| > >> I get on. Brian
| > >>
| >
| > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy
that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
| >
| > --
| >
| > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| >
| > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
| > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| >
| >

[brbrown]

Gosh, you've all given me plenty to think about and try which I will do.
First of all though, Garry I have managed to find the CAB files with plenty
of drivers in but obviously don't know which is needed. I can't now get the
dialogue box up that asks me to insert the Windows CD so I can't try the CABS
yet. I will perservere and try all suggestions. Thank you all for your help
and patience

"MEB" wrote:

> Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
> Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.
>
> Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set Folder
> Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not there
> search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially possible
> that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other files, as
> installed by the manufacturer.
>
> As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the required
> Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP. The
> likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with its
> support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will give
> you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
> folder/directory.
>
> IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from the
> driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the *\Windows\System*
> and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32 folders/directories to
> see if the required files have already been installed.
>
> Check this registry KEY:
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
> "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
>
> Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
>
> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> |
> | Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
> floppy)
> | but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on it
> | that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
> | "Brian A." wrote:
> |
> | > "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> | > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
> FS605
> | > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and
> finished
> | > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find
> one.
> | > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in
> case it
> | > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I
> have
> | > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of
> which
> | > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question,
> where
> | > > can I find a driver?
> | > >
> | > > "brbrown" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >>
> | > >> Hello Gary
> | > >>
> | > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a
> | > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you
> know how
> | > >> I get on. Brian
> | > >>
> | >
> | > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy
> that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | >
> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

The "not friendly" reference was aimed at the Netgear adapter. If you can't
make it work using the instructions provided by Netgear, then I would
consider the adapter faulty.

As for the Linksys adapter, I gave you a link already but you couldn't make
it work in your system. That, alone, is a red flag to me, as there is no
good reason for those links not to work in any browser. Regardless, here's
the one that matters: http://tinyurl.com/6jevyj Here's the manufacturer's
page: http://tinyurl.com/7bagq

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sorry Gary, I meant to add a Smiley. Amazon will no take my Netgear
> adapter
> back as it is not faulty. It's my problem if I haven't got a Windows CD
> and
> it's cheaper to buy another adapter than a CD. Which is the Linksys model
> you
> are using? I will get one.
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Not in the least bit friendly. Based upon the below, I'd recommend that
>> brbrown return that adapter and get a nice simple Linksys.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "glee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "John Dulak" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> brbrown wrote:
>> >>> Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear
>> >>> FS605 switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card
>> >>> CD
>> >>> and finished up with a message saying that I needed a driver and
>> >>> Windows
>> >>> could find one. So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet
>> >>> cable
>> >>> in just in case it would work like you said, without one. Going
>> >>> through
>> >>> old ground, I have searched the internet and found many options of
>> >>> FA311
>> >>> drivers three of which do not work and I have now uninstalled them.
>> >>> Back
>> >>> to my old question, where can I find a driver?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> brbrown:
>> >>
>> >> Try the procedure outlined here:
>> >>
>> >> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp
>> >>
>> >> Also be sure you have the driver for the right VERSION of this card.
>> >>
>> >> http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >
>> > Good catch, John! Excellent info there.... very unintuitive way of
>> > getting the drivers installed. If it was Microsoft drivers, they'd say
>> > that was a "feature", not a bug. ;-)
>> >
>> > The page in your second link on the two versions of the card is crucial
>> > also.
>> >
>> > For those who haven't visited John's first link on installing the
>> > driver:
>> >
>> > <quote>
>> >
>> > Question
>> >
>> > Message "Windows was unable to install the drivers" or "Drivers not
>> > found"
>> > when installing the FA311 or FA312 drivers
>> >
>> > Answer
>> >
>> > 1. Delete the driver files from the hd (Search for fa311).
>> > 2. Remove the Client for Microsoft Networks from the network
>> > configuration.
>> > 3.Remove The network Interface Card from the device manager.
>> > 4. Restart Computer.
>> > 5. Install the adapter using the display a list of drivers option and
>> > direct the install to the floppy. The drivers should now begin to
>> > install.
>> > If at the end of the install it says Windows was unable to install the
>> > driver, click Finish.
>> > 5. Restart the computer and then go into Device Manager, you will see
>> > Netgear Fa311 listed in other devices with an !. It will say the
>> > drivers
>> > were not installed and to click reinstall to reinstall the drivers.
>> > 6. Click the reinstall driver button.
>> > 7. Choose display a list of drivers option, Click Have Disk option, It
>> > will bring up a prompt asking you to insert the Manufacturers diskette,
>> > click OK. The drivers will continue to load and then prompt for a
>> > restart.
>> > Go ahead and restart at this time. The drivers should be loaded
>> > properly
>> > after the restart.
>> >
>> > </quote>
>> > --
>> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> > http://dts-l.net/
>> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >
>>
>>
>>

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

You don't need to know which CAB is needed, etc. When asked for the Windows
installation files (CD), just redirect the dialogue to that folder, period.

As for getting the dialogue again, start completely over with Brian's
instructions and his floppy.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
> Gosh, you've all given me plenty to think about and try which I will do.
> First of all though, Garry I have managed to find the CAB files with
> plenty
> of drivers in but obviously don't know which is needed. I can't now get
> the
> dialogue box up that asks me to insert the Windows CD so I can't try the
> CABS
> yet. I will perservere and try all suggestions. Thank you all for your
> help
> and patience
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
>> Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
>> Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.
>>
>> Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set Folder
>> Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not there
>> search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially
>> possible
>> that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other files,
>> as
>> installed by the manufacturer.
>>
>> As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the required
>> Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP. The
>> likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with its
>> support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will
>> give
>> you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
>> folder/directory.
>>
>> IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from the
>> driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the
>> *\Windows\System*
>> and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32 folders/directories to
>> see if the required files have already been installed.
>>
>> Check this registry KEY:
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
>> "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
>>
>> Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.
>>
>> --
>> MEB
>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> --
>> _________
>>
>>
>>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> |
>> | Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
>> floppy)
>> | but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on
>> it
>> | that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
>> | "Brian A." wrote:
>> |
>> | > "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> | > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a
>> Netgear
>> FS605
>> | > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD
>> and
>> finished
>> | > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could
>> find
>> one.
>> | > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in
>> case it
>> | > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I
>> have
>> | > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three
>> of
>> which
>> | > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old
>> question,
>> where
>> | > > can I find a driver?
>> | > >
>> | > > "brbrown" wrote:
>> | > >
>> | > >>
>> | > >> Hello Gary
>> | > >>
>> | > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to
>> trace a
>> | > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let
>> you
>> know how
>> | > >> I get on. Brian
>> | > >>
>> | >
>> | > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy
>> that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
>> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
>> | >
>> | > --
>> | >
>> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
>> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> | >
>> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> | >
>> | >
>>
>>
>>

[brbrown]

Thanks Garry. I thought I would try all over again. I will take the card out,
and reboot first. I have also downloaded Brian's FA311 which didn't work
either, The netgear box says Windows 98. I have also found the Windows CD
which I thought was a Tutorial CD only. On closer inspection, I can see other
files and drivers.
MEB I have found that an NDis2driver and TCP/IP is shown as existing. The
registry shows the path up to Setup then is broken down to EBD,Migration
DLL's, Netsetup, Optional components, SetupX, VarlDTD, Winboot Div and Shared
DLL's

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> You don't need to know which CAB is needed, etc. When asked for the Windows
> installation files (CD), just redirect the dialogue to that folder, period.
>
> As for getting the dialogue again, start completely over with Brian's
> instructions and his floppy.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Gosh, you've all given me plenty to think about and try which I will do.
> > First of all though, Garry I have managed to find the CAB files with
> > plenty
> > of drivers in but obviously don't know which is needed. I can't now get
> > the
> > dialogue box up that asks me to insert the Windows CD so I can't try the
> > CABS
> > yet. I will perservere and try all suggestions. Thank you all for your
> > help
> > and patience
> >
> > "MEB" wrote:
> >
> >> Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
> >> Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.
> >>
> >> Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set Folder
> >> Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not there
> >> search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially
> >> possible
> >> that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other files,
> >> as
> >> installed by the manufacturer.
> >>
> >> As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the required
> >> Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP. The
> >> likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with its
> >> support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will
> >> give
> >> you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
> >> folder/directory.
> >>
> >> IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from the
> >> driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the
> >> *\Windows\System*
> >> and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32 folders/directories to
> >> see if the required files have already been installed.
> >>
> >> Check this registry KEY:
> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
> >> "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
> >>
> >> Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.
> >>
> >> --
> >> MEB
> >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> >> --
> >> _________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> |
> >> | Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
> >> floppy)
> >> | but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says on
> >> it
> >> | that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
> >> | "Brian A." wrote:
> >> |
> >> | > "brbrown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> | > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a
> >> Netgear
> >> FS605
> >> | > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD
> >> and
> >> finished
> >> | > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could
> >> find
> >> one.
> >> | > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in
> >> case it
> >> | > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I
> >> have
> >> | > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three
> >> of
> >> which
> >> | > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old
> >> question,
> >> where
> >> | > > can I find a driver?
> >> | > >
> >> | > > "brbrown" wrote:
> >> | > >
> >> | > >>
> >> | > >> Hello Gary
> >> | > >>
> >> | > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to
> >> trace a
> >> | > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let
> >> you
> >> know how
> >> | > >> I get on. Brian
> >> | > >>
> >> | >
> >> | > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the floppy
> >> that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
> >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
> >> | >
> >> | > --
> >> | >
> >> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> >> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >> | >
> >> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> >> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >> | >
> >> | >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

[MEB[_2_]]

Now that you have found the CABs and apparently the CD {is this correct?};
try going into Safe Mode and uninstalling the entire Network. That's
everything in Networking.
Also check under Device Manager > Network Adapters {while in Safe Mode} and
uninstall/delete ALL shown. IF you have a modem, uninstall the driver.
Shut down, remove the NetGear adapter physically from the machine {remember
to follow static discharge procedures and disconnect from power}.
Re-start to Normal Mode (it may ask for a new password and/or user), let
windows install the basics, the modem {if installed}... check after
re-starting... both > Network, AND Device Manager > Network Adapters.
*IF* you have a modem installed, make sure its driver is installed and the
modem shows up in > Network, with TCP/IP installed. Add Microsoft Networking
Client if not installed.

The next question is if the 98SE system was fully updated via
windowsupdate?
*IF NOT* then you need to at least download and install the DCOM98 update
[you need several others for both networking and system protection, I would
recommend running/installing any/all critical updates offered]. *IF* you
know it has been updated, try typing in "qfecheck" [no quotes] in the RUN
box and looking for failed or improperly installed updates.

Only after checking these issues AND the updates, try re-installing the
card.

BTW: was the registry SourcePath shown similar to what I had indicated?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
| Thanks Garry. I thought I would try all over again. I will take the card
out,
| and reboot first. I have also downloaded Brian's FA311 which didn't work
| either, The netgear box says Windows 98. I have also found the Windows CD
| which I thought was a Tutorial CD only. On closer inspection, I can see
other
| files and drivers.
| MEB I have found that an NDis2driver and TCP/IP is shown as existing. The
| registry shows the path up to Setup then is broken down to EBD,Migration
| DLL's, Netsetup, Optional components, SetupX, VarlDTD, Winboot Div and
Shared
| DLL's
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
| > You don't need to know which CAB is needed, etc. When asked for the
Windows
| > installation files (CD), just redirect the dialogue to that folder,
period.
| >
| > As for getting the dialogue again, start completely over with Brian's
| > instructions and his floppy.
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > http://grystmill.com
| >
| > "brbrown" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > > Gosh, you've all given me plenty to think about and try which I will
do.
| > > First of all though, Garry I have managed to find the CAB files with
| > > plenty
| > > of drivers in but obviously don't know which is needed. I can't now
get
| > > the
| > > dialogue box up that asks me to insert the Windows CD so I can't try
the
| > > CABS
| > > yet. I will perservere and try all suggestions. Thank you all for your
| > > help
| > > and patience
| > >
| > > "MEB" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
| > >> Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.
| > >>
| > >> Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set
Folder
| > >> Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not
there
| > >> search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially
| > >> possible
| > >> that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other
files,
| > >> as
| > >> installed by the manufacturer.
| > >>
| > >> As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the
required
| > >> Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP.
The
| > >> likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with
its
| > >> support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will
| > >> give
| > >> you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
| > >> folder/directory.
| > >>
| > >> IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from
the
| > >> driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the
| > >> *\Windows\System*
| > >> and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32
folders/directories to
| > >> see if the required files have already been installed.
| > >>
| > >> Check this registry KEY:
| > >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
| > >> "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
| > >>
| > >> Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> MEB
| > >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > >> --
| > >> _________
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
| > >> ...
| > >> |
| > >> | Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
| > >> floppy)
| > >> | but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says
on
| > >> it
| > >> | that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
| > >> | "Brian A." wrote:
| > >> |
| > >> | > "brbrown" > wrote in message
| > >> ...
| > >> | > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a
| > >> Netgear
| > >> FS605
| > >> | > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card
CD
| > >> and
| > >> finished
| > >> | > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows
could
| > >> find
| > >> one.
| > >> | > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just
in
| > >> case it
| > >> | > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old
ground, I
| > >> have
| > >> | > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers
three
| > >> of
| > >> which
| > >> | > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old
| > >> question,
| > >> where
| > >> | > > can I find a driver?
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > > "brbrown" wrote:
| > >> | > >
| > >> | > >>
| > >> | > >> Hello Gary
| > >> | > >>
| > >> | > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to
| > >> trace a
| > >> | > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll
let
| > >> you
| > >> know how
| > >> | > >> I get on. Brian
| > >> | > >>
| > >> | >
| > >> | > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the
floppy
| > >> that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
| > >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
| > >> | >
| > >> | > --
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| > >> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > >> | >
| > >> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
| > >> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| > >> | >
| > >> | >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >

[Gary S. Terhune[_2_]]

Did you read the instructions Brian provided? It also mentions deleting
certain files before reinstalling the drivers, for instance? These
instructions?
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100181.asp

Follow those instructions EXACTLY!

Did you verify the version as described here (again, a link Brian already
provided)?
http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/FA311.asp

Do you have version 2? Since the card is new, I would assume so. If you'll
look at the Product sheet for Netgear FA311v2 at
http://kbserver.netgear.com/datasheets/enus_ds_fa311_21nov07.pdf

....you'll see that only Windows 2000/XP/Vista are supported. If what you got
was an FA311v2, and the sales presentation at Amazon.com. did not mention
that fact, then they sent you the wrong item and you are due a refund. Since
I can't find one mention of FA311v2 or any such reference at Amazon.com, if
you got FA311v2 it's their screw-up.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Garry. I thought I would try all over again. I will take the card
> out,
> and reboot first. I have also downloaded Brian's FA311 which didn't work
> either, The netgear box says Windows 98. I have also found the Windows CD
> which I thought was a Tutorial CD only. On closer inspection, I can see
> other
> files and drivers.
> MEB I have found that an NDis2driver and TCP/IP is shown as existing. The
> registry shows the path up to Setup then is broken down to EBD,Migration
> DLL's, Netsetup, Optional components, SetupX, VarlDTD, Winboot Div and
> Shared
> DLL's
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> You don't need to know which CAB is needed, etc. When asked for the
>> Windows
>> installation files (CD), just redirect the dialogue to that folder,
>> period.
>>
>> As for getting the dialogue again, start completely over with Brian's
>> instructions and his floppy.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Gosh, you've all given me plenty to think about and try which I will
>> > do.
>> > First of all though, Garry I have managed to find the CAB files with
>> > plenty
>> > of drivers in but obviously don't know which is needed. I can't now
>> > get
>> > the
>> > dialogue box up that asks me to insert the Windows CD so I can't try
>> > the
>> > CABS
>> > yet. I will perservere and try all suggestions. Thank you all for your
>> > help
>> > and patience
>> >
>> > "MEB" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Both Brian and Gary have supplied ideas for locating and installing.
>> >> Brian's offered installation file seems to be viable.
>> >>
>> >> Try locating the CAB files on the hard drive [you may need to set
>> >> Folder
>> >> Options to allow viewing hidden folders and hidden files], if not
>> >> there
>> >> search the restore CD and/or other computer CDs. It is potentially
>> >> possible
>> >> that there may be a hidden partition containing the CABs and other
>> >> files,
>> >> as
>> >> installed by the manufacturer.
>> >>
>> >> As an alternative > check in Control Panel > Network > for the
>> >> required
>> >> Microsoft Networking Client, File and Printer Sharing, and TCP/IP. The
>> >> likely issue is whether NDIS3/5 has been installed previously with its
>> >> support files. If these are not installed, try adding them. This will
>> >> give
>> >> you an idea whether there is a hidden partition or manufacturer's
>> >> folder/directory.
>> >>
>> >> IF you find them installed in Network, when installing the card from
>> >> the
>> >> driver Brian supplied, try directing the installer to the
>> >> *\Windows\System*
>> >> and possibly the \Windows and/or \Windows\System32 folders/directories
>> >> to
>> >> see if the required files have already been installed.
>> >>
>> >> Check this registry KEY:
>> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup]
>> >> "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
>> >>
>> >> Your key may be different, please post back what it shows.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> MEB
>> >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> >> --
>> >> _________
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> |
>> >> | Brian, I have tried to follow the procedure on the CD (there was no
>> >> floppy)
>> >> | but I do not have a Windows CD other than the Restore CD which says
>> >> on
>> >> it
>> >> | that its use will completely wipe my hardrive before Restoring.
>> >> | "Brian A." wrote:
>> >> |
>> >> | > "brbrown" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> | > > Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a
>> >> Netgear
>> >> FS605
>> >> | > > switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD
>> >> and
>> >> finished
>> >> | > > up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows
>> >> could
>> >> find
>> >> one.
>> >> | > > So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just
>> >> in
>> >> case it
>> >> | > > would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground,
>> >> I
>> >> have
>> >> | > > searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers
>> >> three
>> >> of
>> >> which
>> >> | > > do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old
>> >> question,
>> >> where
>> >> | > > can I find a driver?
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > > "brbrown" wrote:
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | > >> Hello Gary
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | > >> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to
>> >> trace a
>> >> | > >> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let
>> >> you
>> >> know how
>> >> | > >> I get on. Brian
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | >
>> >> | > I have zipped up the original drivers/files/docs off of the
>> >> floppy
>> >> that is provided with the Netgear FA311 and placed the zip file here.
>> >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq3.htm
>> >> | >
>> >> | > --
>> >> | >
>> >> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
>> >> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >> | >
>> >> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> >> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >> | >
>> >> | >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>