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JD
November 4th 06, 02:44 PM
The 2007 version of Quicken no longer list Windows 98SE as a supported
OS. Has anyone installed Quicken 2007 on a Windows 98SE machine?
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Richard G. Harper
November 4th 06, 10:51 PM
If Quicken says it's unsupported, I'd take their word for it. If anything
goes wrong they won't help you fix the problem - thus the term
"unsupported".

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"JD" > wrote in message
...
> The 2007 version of Quicken no longer list Windows 98SE as a supported OS.
> Has anyone installed Quicken 2007 on a Windows 98SE machine?
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> JD..

JD
November 4th 06, 11:57 PM
On 04-Nov-06 16:51, Richard G. Harper wrote:

> If Quicken says it's unsupported, I'd take their word for it. If anything
> goes wrong they won't help you fix the problem - thus the term
> "unsupported".
>
Honestly, they've never helped me fix a problem in the past. I have
software for my digital camera that installed on 98 SE but after an
"update" a window flashed by that said the software was not for 98SE but
it still works?

After a little more research, I found a post in another newsgroup that
said Quicken 2007 would not even install on 98SE. Once it recognizes the
OS as 98SE it shuts down the install.

Have you every considered bottom posting to a reply? With your signature
as it is, everything after it doesn't transfer to my reply to your post.

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Gary S. Terhune
November 5th 06, 12:22 AM
No problem here. Perhaps it is more accurately a flaw in your own reader
that is cutting off everything after the sig. Top-posting is perfectly
acceptable.

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MS MVP Shell/User
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"JD" > wrote in message
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> On 04-Nov-06 16:51, Richard G. Harper wrote:
> Have you every considered bottom posting to a reply? With your signature
> as it is, everything after it doesn't transfer to my reply to your post.
>
> --
> JD..

JD
November 5th 06, 01:19 AM
On 04-Nov-06 18:22, Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> No problem here. Perhaps it is more accurately a flaw in your own reader
> that is cutting off everything after the sig. Top-posting is perfectly
> acceptable.
>


Didn't mean to step on any body's toes! My understanding is everything
after the signature delimiter is supposed to drop off so there aren't
multiple signatures?

Most the newsgroups I post in request that people either bottom post or
reply in-line.

I don't come to this newsgroup very often so I'm not familiar how it
works. Is it unacceptable for me to continue to bottom post?

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JD..

RobertVA
November 5th 06, 02:19 AM
JD wrote:
> On 04-Nov-06 18:22, Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
>> No problem here. Perhaps it is more accurately a flaw in your own reader
>> that is cutting off everything after the sig. Top-posting is perfectly
>> acceptable.
>>
>
>
> Didn't mean to step on any body's toes! My understanding is everything
> after the signature delimiter is supposed to drop off so there aren't
> multiple signatures?
>
> Most the newsgroups I post in request that people either bottom post or
> reply in-line.
>
> I don't come to this newsgroup very often so I'm not familiar how it
> works. Is it unacceptable for me to continue to bottom post?

Bottom posting makes more sense to me. If there is a continuing exchange
of articles in a thread, top posting makes it VERY hard to figure out
the sequence of the quotes. There ARE some occasions when earlier
articles aren't available, and quotes sometimes help explain the
context. That doesn't mean you always have to quote ALL of every prior
article in the thread though.

Gary S. Terhune
November 5th 06, 03:12 AM
Not stepping on any toes, not exactly, <s>.

Top-posting, bottom-posting, inline posting, all are acceptable. To insist
upon one over the other is elitist. I understand that many users will claim
that it's some kind of "rule". It isn't.

Personally, I find both bottom-posting and inline posting to be frequently
bothersome. Bottom-posting because I often have to scroll past a *lot* of
content just to see a one-line or one-paragraph response. With inline, it
can quickly become a real mess trying to understand a conversation that has
been replied to a few times. Examples of conversations that are nigh
impossible to read for that reason abound in these newsgroups. Proponents of
bottom and inline posting will insist that it's more "natural", that it
presents the info in proper order, etc., But most of us have already read
the conversation to that point and only need the new content. The included
content is only there for reference, in case the person hasn't read the
previous posts. To cause additional work for those who are already up to
date, instead of presenting the new content at the top, seems rather
inconsiderate to me.

What seems to be the case is that you are either using an optional setting
or your newsreader is hard-wired to do as you describe. If everyone
bottom-posted or posted inline, the technique would make sense, I suppose.
All I was (and am) saying is that it is your setting or built-in function
that is causing the "problem" you're having, not the top-posting.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"JD" > wrote in message
...
> On 04-Nov-06 18:22, Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
> > No problem here. Perhaps it is more accurately a flaw in your own reader
> > that is cutting off everything after the sig. Top-posting is perfectly
> > acceptable.
> >
>
>
> Didn't mean to step on any body's toes! My understanding is everything
> after the signature delimiter is supposed to drop off so there aren't
> multiple signatures?
>
> Most the newsgroups I post in request that people either bottom post or
> reply in-line.
>
> I don't come to this newsgroup very often so I'm not familiar how it
> works. Is it unacceptable for me to continue to bottom post?
>
> --
> JD..

Gary S. Terhune
November 5th 06, 03:15 AM
If everyone top-posted, it wouldn't be at all difficult to figure out the
sequence. Nor is it really all that difficult to figure out when there is
mixed bottom and top-posting. The real difficulty comes when there are a
sequence of inline postings. Proper trimming is what really determines the
readability of any of these styles.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"RobertVA" > wrote in message
...
> JD wrote:
> > On 04-Nov-06 18:22, Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> >
> >> No problem here. Perhaps it is more accurately a flaw in your own
reader
> >> that is cutting off everything after the sig. Top-posting is perfectly
> >> acceptable.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Didn't mean to step on any body's toes! My understanding is everything
> > after the signature delimiter is supposed to drop off so there aren't
> > multiple signatures?
> >
> > Most the newsgroups I post in request that people either bottom post or
> > reply in-line.
> >
> > I don't come to this newsgroup very often so I'm not familiar how it
> > works. Is it unacceptable for me to continue to bottom post?
>
> Bottom posting makes more sense to me. If there is a continuing exchange
> of articles in a thread, top posting makes it VERY hard to figure out
> the sequence of the quotes. There ARE some occasions when earlier
> articles aren't available, and quotes sometimes help explain the
> context. That doesn't mean you always have to quote ALL of every prior
> article in the thread though.

Ian
November 22nd 06, 05:09 PM
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>
> Personally, I find both bottom-posting and inline posting to be frequently
> bothersome. Bottom-posting because I often have to scroll past a *lot* of
> content just to see a one-line or one-paragraph response.

Precisely, and in Agent it prevents you from using keystrokes to quickly
flick through postings.

I don't understand why people see the need to repeat entire threads in every
reply, anyway. What is the point of that?

Gary S. Terhune
November 23rd 06, 12:11 AM
There is a benefit to we regulars who are scanning through threads for ones
for which we might have some potentially helpful advice, or which discuss
tech issues that we are interested in tracking. Because we often attend to
*many* groups, and some of those groups are HUGE, we maintain a short date
limit -- 15 to 30 days, or less. Thus, when we only happen upon a group
every week or two, we can often miss the early days of a thread,
particularly where the issue is a particularly gnarly one, or one that
simply requires days to deal with. Without the early posts of a thread,
we're usually working in the dark, lacking in many details, pretty much
useless to the discussion.

Even if the entire thread is available, if you have to read back through the
thread it's a PITA to scroll lots of repetitive inline and bottom posts to
gather little bits of new data, when scrolling through just one post would
provide the same info *if* the previous content still remained. Of course,
if top-posting were the norm, we'd pretty much only have to read the thread
from the beginning, and it would be a relatively painless process.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
> >
> > Personally, I find both bottom-posting and inline posting to be
frequently
> > bothersome. Bottom-posting because I often have to scroll past a *lot*
of
> > content just to see a one-line or one-paragraph response.
>
> Precisely, and in Agent it prevents you from using keystrokes to quickly
> flick through postings.
>
> I don't understand why people see the need to repeat entire threads in
every
> reply, anyway. What is the point of that?
>
>