W98SE, WM9, Task Manager and AutoShutdown

[Bruce]

I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
Internet.

The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
works great - wish more machines had this!

Problem is shutting down.

I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it always
hangs.

The shutdown command I am using is:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows

and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"

If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.

So my questions to you are:
A. is this the best shut down command I can use?
B. Are there better ways to do this?

I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

[meirman]

In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
-0400 "Bruce" > posted:

>I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
>Internet.
>
>The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
>works great - wish more machines had this!

Who wrote the BIOS? I might like to get one.

>Problem is shutting down.
>
>I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it always
>hangs.
>
>The shutdown command I am using is:
>C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows
>
>and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"
>
>If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.
>
>So my questions to you are:
>A. is this the best shut down command I can use?

Don't know.

>B. Are there better ways to do this?

Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. :) )

I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1

The last number determines exactly what happens.
1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
2 = ?? Restart Windows?
3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
4 = ?? Standby?
5 = ?? Turn off computer????

Let us know what happens.

Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
you use it then?

>I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
>doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.
>
>Thanks for any help you can provide!
>
>
>


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[Bruce]

"meirman" > wrote in message
...
> In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
> -0400 "Bruce" > posted:
>
> >I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
> >Internet.
> >
> >The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
> >works great - wish more machines had this!
>
> Who wrote the BIOS? I might like to get one.

This is an old IBM Aptiva. I have never seen it since - doesn't mean they
aren't out there, but it is the only place I have seen it.

Hint to manufacturers - we like this feature!
>
> >Problem is shutting down.
> >
> >I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it
always
> >hangs.
> >
> >The shutdown command I am using is:
> >C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows
> >
> >and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"
> >
> >If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.
> >
> >So my questions to you are:
> >A. is this the best shut down command I can use?
>
> Don't know.

But you suggest a new one below! Thanks.
>
> >B. Are there better ways to do this?
>
> Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
> You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. :) )
I as actually asking if there are better ways e.g., trying to shut WM9 down
separately from Windows, or something else like that.

>
> I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1
>
> The last number determines exactly what happens.
> 1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
> 2 = ?? Restart Windows?
> 3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
> 4 = ?? Standby?
> 5 = ?? Turn off computer????
>

I will try the above and let you know.

> Let us know what happens.
>
> Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
> you use it then?
No, this is a totally wiped machine, so it isn't leftover, unless like a lot
of W98 MS left it in there.

The command I got from some old publication - they probably reused it from
W31 - saved their researchers time ;-)


Thank you for your ideas - I will try them.
>
> >I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
> >doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.
> >
> >Thanks for any help you can provide!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Meirman
>
> If emailing, please let me know whether
> or not you are posting the same letter.
>
> Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.

[meirman]

In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 28 May 2004 08:14:40
-0400 "Bruce" > posted:

>
>"meirman" > wrote in message
...
>> In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
>> -0400 "Bruce" > posted:
>> >The shutdown command I am using is:
>> >C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows
>> >
>> >and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"
>> >
>> >If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.
>> >
>> >So my questions to you are:
>> >A. is this the best shut down command I can use?
>>
>> Don't know.
>
>But you suggest a new one below! Thanks.

But I don't know if yours is the best or not. :)

>> >B. Are there better ways to do this?
>>
>> Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
>> You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. :) )
>I as actually asking if there are better ways e.g., trying to shut WM9 down
>separately from Windows, or something else like that.
>
>>
>> I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1

I got this off some webpage, maybe a MS one.

>> The last number determines exactly what happens.
>> 1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
>> 2 = ?? Restart Windows?
>> 3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
>> 4 = ?? Standby?
>> 5 = ?? Turn off computer????
>>
>I will try the above and let you know.
>
>> Let us know what happens.
>>
>> Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
>> you use it then?
>No, this is a totally wiped machine, so it isn't leftover, unless like a lot
>of W98 MS left it in there.
>
>The command I got from some old publication - they probably reused it from
>W31 - saved their researchers time ;-)

I still have win3.1 in one of my partitions, and I just checked and
there is no rundll*.* in it at all.

OTOH, win98 FE has both of them with the same date/time. May 11, '98,
at 8:01 PM.
>
>Thank you for your ideas - I will try them.

You're welcome.

Meirman

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