Windows / Temp Files

[Keith Young]

Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically the
same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then have slight
variations in the remainder of the name.

My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to delete.
I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but apparently that doesnt
cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been having some strange problems
with the computer and clearing this temp directory in the past has helped.

Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?

How can I get rid of these files.

Thanks for your help.

Keith

[Heather]

Yes, it probably is to do with your printer, especially if you use it a
lot. Try deleting them a few at a time.....36,000 files is a lot to
clear at one time. Once you get the folder cleared, check it every day
and clear it.

Heather

"Keith Young" > wrote in message
...
> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically
> the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then
> have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>
> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been
> having some strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp
> directory in the past has helped.
>
> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>
> How can I get rid of these files.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Keith
>

[Noel Paton]

Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at the
A:\> prompt


REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old

MD C:\windows\Temp

reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder

then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you see one
or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see what the
contents are
post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate the
cause, and find a cure

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Keith Young" > wrote in message
...
> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically the
> same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then have
> slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>
> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but apparently
> that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been having some
> strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp directory in the
> past has helped.
>
> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>
> How can I get rid of these files.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Keith
>

[Heather]

Thanks for the DOS commands......I find that whenever I use my printer
or scanner (scanner is worse), I get a ton of temp files. He has
probably never noticed them before and they do not "self-destruct".

Cheers.....Day 9 and still going strong. Had those cravings on Day 8
that you mentioned. Neighbour just phoned (3 hours after he quit) and
he is going nuts!! Wuss!! (G)

Figgs

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at
> the A:\> prompt
>
>
> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>
> MD C:\windows\Temp
>
> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>
> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you
> see one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see
> what the contents are
> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate
> the cause, and find a cure
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with
>> basically the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP
>> and then have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>
>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been
>> having some strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp
>> directory in the past has helped.
>>
>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>
>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>
>

[antioch]

Hello Noel
This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies to ME.
There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup but the
other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the numbers down.
I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a few
at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point I got to
copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
With XP I do this;
Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
File - Delete.
Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click on
delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all but the
latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left with 2, 3 or 4
files, all dated and timed the same.
I do this about once every two weeks.
Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
Rgds
Antioch

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at the
> A:\> prompt
>
>
> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>
> MD C:\windows\Temp
>
> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>
> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you see
> one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see what
> the contents are
> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate the
> cause, and find a cure
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically
>> the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then have
>> slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>
>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but apparently
>> that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been having some
>> strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp directory in
>> the past has helped.
>>
>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>
>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>
>

[Noel Paton]

In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be addressed
(carefully!) - there's one for each user account created, one for the
Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at c:\Windows\TEMP for the older
program which doesn't understand WinNT structures. IIRC, the same applies to
Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS system
can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in any Win
NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of reading from or
writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits that apply in FAT32
do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the system would seize in the
same way - unless the user for some reason had installed the OS into a FAT32
environment.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"antioch" > wrote in message
...
> Hello Noel
> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies to
> ME.
> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup but
> the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the numbers
> down.
> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a few
> at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point I got
> to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
> With XP I do this;
> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
> File - Delete.
> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click on
> delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all but
> the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left with 2, 3
> or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
> I do this about once every two weeks.
> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
> Rgds
> Antioch
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at the
>> A:\> prompt
>>
>>
>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>
>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>
>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>
>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you see
>> one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see what
>> the contents are
>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate the
>> cause, and find a cure
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically
>>> the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then
>>> have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>
>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but apparently
>>> that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been having some
>>> strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp directory in
>>> the past has helped.
>>>
>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>
>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[antioch]

Hello Noel
Having never had the privilege of using Me, I had a feeling my comments
would be of no use, as I am sure it would have been suggested already.
I wonder if 'Vista' will have the same built-in temp that will grow and
grow, regenerate etc without most users knowing until they have no more disk
space.
Rgds
Antioch

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be addressed
> (carefully!) - there's one for each user account created, one for the
> Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at c:\Windows\TEMP for the
> older program which doesn't understand WinNT structures. IIRC, the same
> applies to Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
> In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS system
> can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in any Win
> NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of reading from or
> writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits that apply in FAT32
> do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the system would seize in the
> same way - unless the user for some reason had installed the OS into a
> FAT32 environment.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "antioch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hello Noel
>> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies to
>> ME.
>> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup but
>> the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the numbers
>> down.
>> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a
>> few at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point I
>> got to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
>> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
>> With XP I do this;
>> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
>> File - Delete.
>> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click on
>> delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all but
>> the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left with 2,
>> 3 or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
>> I do this about once every two weeks.
>> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
>> Rgds
>> Antioch
>>
>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at
>>> the A:\> prompt
>>>
>>>
>>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>>
>>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>>
>>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>>
>>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you see
>>> one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see what
>>> the contents are
>>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate
>>> the cause, and find a cure
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>
>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>
>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>> NG's
>>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically
>>>> the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then
>>>> have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>>
>>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>>>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>>>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been
>>>> having some strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp
>>>> directory in the past has helped.
>>>>
>>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>>
>>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Noel Paton]

In 99% of cases the problem lies not with the OS, but with a misbehaving
program - - and most of the rest is due to a user killing a program
improperly, so not allowing it to clean up after itself.
One case in point is a program installation - which may create a few hundred
files in the TEMP folder - if the install fails (or the user kills it
improperly), then the files may be left in the folder. Since Win ME, all
OS's have an option to run a cleanup as part of scheduled maintenance, and
I generally recommend that 'novice' users use that facility. The more
experienced user will generally have found their own favoured way of
cleaning the system

Very rarely, a program will have a bug - or two programs will conflict - in
such a way as to quickly generate thousands of files, in one of three
locations.... the Windows\INF folder, the TEMP folder, or the System Restore
archive.... strangely enough the predominant causes for all three amount
either to user error, or incompetence on the part of Symantec programmers.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"antioch" > wrote in message
...
> Hello Noel
> Having never had the privilege of using Me, I had a feeling my comments
> would be of no use, as I am sure it would have been suggested already.
> I wonder if 'Vista' will have the same built-in temp that will grow and
> grow, regenerate etc without most users knowing until they have no more
> disk space.
> Rgds
> Antioch
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be addressed
>> (carefully!) - there's one for each user account created, one for the
>> Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at c:\Windows\TEMP for the
>> older program which doesn't understand WinNT structures. IIRC, the same
>> applies to Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
>> In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS
>> system can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in any
>> Win NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of reading
>> from or writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits that apply
>> in FAT32 do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the system would
>> seize in the same way - unless the user for some reason had installed the
>> OS into a FAT32 environment.
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hello Noel
>>> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies to
>>> ME.
>>> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup but
>>> the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the
>>> numbers down.
>>> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a
>>> few at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point I
>>> got to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
>>> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
>>> With XP I do this;
>>> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
>>> File - Delete.
>>> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click
>>> on delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all
>>> but the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left
>>> with 2, 3 or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
>>> I do this about once every two weeks.
>>> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
>>> Rgds
>>> Antioch
>>>
>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at
>>>> the A:\> prompt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>>>
>>>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>>>
>>>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>>>
>>>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you see
>>>> one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see what
>>>> the contents are
>>>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate
>>>> the cause, and find a cure
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>
>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>
>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>> NG's
>>>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically
>>>>> the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then
>>>>> have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>>>>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>>>>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been
>>>>> having some strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp
>>>>> directory in the past has helped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[antioch]

Hello Noel
I take your points only on the assumption that I have understood what you
mean.
I have had two computers in the last 12 months, both with Winxp Home SP2 and
both have had temp folders that add files etc every time the computer is
switched on.
I can confirm that despite doing a cleanup, this particular temp does not
get cleaned.
Most often when a cleanup is performed, there is nothing in the 'temp' as
shown.
Yet there is plenty in that other one unless I have done a manual cleanout.
I have never had any Symantec/Norton product on either computer.
I am not alone with this phenomenon.
Rgds
Antioch

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> In 99% of cases the problem lies not with the OS, but with a misbehaving
> program - - and most of the rest is due to a user killing a program
> improperly, so not allowing it to clean up after itself.
> One case in point is a program installation - which may create a few
> hundred files in the TEMP folder - if the install fails (or the user kills
> it improperly), then the files may be left in the folder. Since Win ME,
> all OS's have an option to run a cleanup as part of scheduled
> maintenance, and I generally recommend that 'novice' users use that
> facility. The more experienced user will generally have found their own
> favoured way of cleaning the system
>
> Very rarely, a program will have a bug - or two programs will conflict -
> in such a way as to quickly generate thousands of files, in one of three
> locations.... the Windows\INF folder, the TEMP folder, or the System
> Restore archive.... strangely enough the predominant causes for all three
> amount either to user error, or incompetence on the part of Symantec
> programmers.
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "antioch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hello Noel
>> Having never had the privilege of using Me, I had a feeling my comments
>> would be of no use, as I am sure it would have been suggested already.
>> I wonder if 'Vista' will have the same built-in temp that will grow and
>> grow, regenerate etc without most users knowing until they have no more
>> disk space.
>> Rgds
>> Antioch
>>
>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be addressed
>>> (carefully!) - there's one for each user account created, one for the
>>> Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at c:\Windows\TEMP for the
>>> older program which doesn't understand WinNT structures. IIRC, the same
>>> applies to Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
>>> In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS
>>> system can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in any
>>> Win NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of reading
>>> from or writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits that
>>> apply in FAT32 do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the system
>>> would seize in the same way - unless the user for some reason had
>>> installed the OS into a FAT32 environment.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>
>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>
>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>> NG's
>>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hello Noel
>>>> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies to
>>>> ME.
>>>> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup
>>>> but the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the
>>>> numbers down.
>>>> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a
>>>> few at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point
>>>> I got to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
>>>> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
>>>> With XP I do this;
>>>> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
>>>> File - Delete.
>>>> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click
>>>> on delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all
>>>> but the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left
>>>> with 2, 3 or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
>>>> I do this about once every two weeks.
>>>> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
>>>> Rgds
>>>> Antioch
>>>>
>>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at
>>>>> the A:\> prompt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>>>>
>>>>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>>>>
>>>>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>>>>
>>>>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you
>>>>> see one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and see
>>>>> what the contents are
>>>>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate
>>>>> the cause, and find a cure
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>>> NG's
>>>>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>>>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with
>>>>>> basically the same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP
>>>>>> and then have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>>>>>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>>>>>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been
>>>>>> having some strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp
>>>>>> directory in the past has helped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Noel Paton]

Many anti-virus products create random-named executables in the TEMP folder
which cannot be cleaned with Windows running - the idea being that a
potential virus then doesn't know the name of the running process that it
has to kill to survive. Some anti-spyware products do the same, IIRC
(RootkitRevealer for one) These files are deleted during a graceful shutdown

--
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http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"antioch" > wrote in message
...
> Hello Noel
> I take your points only on the assumption that I have understood what you
> mean.
> I have had two computers in the last 12 months, both with Winxp Home SP2
> and both have had temp folders that add files etc every time the computer
> is switched on.
> I can confirm that despite doing a cleanup, this particular temp does not
> get cleaned.
> Most often when a cleanup is performed, there is nothing in the 'temp' as
> shown.
> Yet there is plenty in that other one unless I have done a manual
> cleanout.
> I have never had any Symantec/Norton product on either computer.
> I am not alone with this phenomenon.
> Rgds
> Antioch
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In 99% of cases the problem lies not with the OS, but with a misbehaving
>> program - - and most of the rest is due to a user killing a program
>> improperly, so not allowing it to clean up after itself.
>> One case in point is a program installation - which may create a few
>> hundred files in the TEMP folder - if the install fails (or the user
>> kills it improperly), then the files may be left in the folder. Since
>> Win ME, all OS's have an option to run a cleanup as part of scheduled
>> maintenance, and I generally recommend that 'novice' users use that
>> facility. The more experienced user will generally have found their own
>> favoured way of cleaning the system
>>
>> Very rarely, a program will have a bug - or two programs will conflict -
>> in such a way as to quickly generate thousands of files, in one of three
>> locations.... the Windows\INF folder, the TEMP folder, or the System
>> Restore archive.... strangely enough the predominant causes for all three
>> amount either to user error, or incompetence on the part of Symantec
>> programmers.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hello Noel
>>> Having never had the privilege of using Me, I had a feeling my comments
>>> would be of no use, as I am sure it would have been suggested already.
>>> I wonder if 'Vista' will have the same built-in temp that will grow and
>>> grow, regenerate etc without most users knowing until they have no more
>>> disk space.
>>> Rgds
>>> Antioch
>>>
>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be addressed
>>>> (carefully!) - there's one for each user account created, one for the
>>>> Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at c:\Windows\TEMP for the
>>>> older program which doesn't understand WinNT structures. IIRC, the same
>>>> applies to Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
>>>> In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS
>>>> system can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in
>>>> any Win NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of
>>>> reading from or writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits
>>>> that apply in FAT32 do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the
>>>> system would seize in the same way - unless the user for some reason
>>>> had installed the OS into a FAT32 environment.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>
>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>
>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>> NG's
>>>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Hello Noel
>>>>> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies
>>>>> to ME.
>>>>> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup
>>>>> but the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the
>>>>> numbers down.
>>>>> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete a
>>>>> few at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one point
>>>>> I got to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
>>>>> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
>>>>> With XP I do this;
>>>>> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go to
>>>>> File - Delete.
>>>>> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So click
>>>>> on delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then select all
>>>>> but the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You should be left
>>>>> with 2, 3 or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
>>>>> I do this about once every two weeks.
>>>>> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
>>>>> Rgds
>>>>> Antioch
>>>>>
>>>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands at
>>>>>> the A:\> prompt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you
>>>>>> see one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and
>>>>>> see what the contents are
>>>>>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to isolate
>>>>>> the cause, and find a cure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>>>> NG's
>>>>>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>>>>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with
>>>>>>> basically the same name (slightly differet). The names start with
>>>>>>> HP and then have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
>>>>>>> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>>>>>>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have
>>>>>>> been having some strange problems with the computer and clearing
>>>>>>> this temp directory in the past has helped.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[antioch]

Hello Noel
That I didn't realise and I cant say I have heard that possibility mentioned
before in all the temp
posts in the past.
I have only used McAfee or Netguard - perhaps they are doing what you say.
Keeping this folder clear is just another 'household chore'
Rgds
Antioch

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Many anti-virus products create random-named executables in the TEMP
> folder which cannot be cleaned with Windows running - the idea being that
> a potential virus then doesn't know the name of the running process that
> it has to kill to survive. Some anti-spyware products do the same, IIRC
> (RootkitRevealer for one) These files are deleted during a graceful
> shutdown
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "antioch" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hello Noel
>> I take your points only on the assumption that I have understood what you
>> mean.
>> I have had two computers in the last 12 months, both with Winxp Home SP2
>> and both have had temp folders that add files etc every time the computer
>> is switched on.
>> I can confirm that despite doing a cleanup, this particular temp does not
>> get cleaned.
>> Most often when a cleanup is performed, there is nothing in the 'temp' as
>> shown.
>> Yet there is plenty in that other one unless I have done a manual
>> cleanout.
>> I have never had any Symantec/Norton product on either computer.
>> I am not alone with this phenomenon.
>> Rgds
>> Antioch
>>
>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In 99% of cases the problem lies not with the OS, but with a misbehaving
>>> program - - and most of the rest is due to a user killing a program
>>> improperly, so not allowing it to clean up after itself.
>>> One case in point is a program installation - which may create a few
>>> hundred files in the TEMP folder - if the install fails (or the user
>>> kills it improperly), then the files may be left in the folder. Since
>>> Win ME, all OS's have an option to run a cleanup as part of scheduled
>>> maintenance, and I generally recommend that 'novice' users use that
>>> facility. The more experienced user will generally have found their own
>>> favoured way of cleaning the system
>>>
>>> Very rarely, a program will have a bug - or two programs will conflict -
>>> in such a way as to quickly generate thousands of files, in one of three
>>> locations.... the Windows\INF folder, the TEMP folder, or the System
>>> Restore archive.... strangely enough the predominant causes for all
>>> three amount either to user error, or incompetence on the part of
>>> Symantec programmers.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>
>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>
>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>> NG's
>>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hello Noel
>>>> Having never had the privilege of using Me, I had a feeling my comments
>>>> would be of no use, as I am sure it would have been suggested already.
>>>> I wonder if 'Vista' will have the same built-in temp that will grow and
>>>> grow, regenerate etc without most users knowing until they have no more
>>>> disk space.
>>>> Rgds
>>>> Antioch
>>>>
>>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In WinXP, there are a number of TEMP folders which need to be
>>>>> addressed (carefully!) - there's one for each user account created,
>>>>> one for the Administrator account, and a 'reserve' one at
>>>>> c:\Windows\TEMP for the older program which doesn't understand WinNT
>>>>> structures. IIRC, the same applies to Win2K - and to Win2K3 server
>>>>> In WinME you still have the option to boot to a mode in which a DOS
>>>>> system can see the whole disk - which is not necessarily the case in
>>>>> any Win NT-based system, as most boot floppies and not capable of
>>>>> reading from or writing to a NTFS file system. - that said, the limits
>>>>> that apply in FAT32 do not apply in NTFS, so it's unlikely that the
>>>>> system would seize in the same way - unless the user for some reason
>>>>> had installed the OS into a FAT32 environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>>> NG's
>>>>> "antioch" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Hello Noel
>>>>>> This sounds similar to WinXP, but I do not know if the below applies
>>>>>> to ME.
>>>>>> There appears to be 2 temps - one gets deleted when you disk cleanup
>>>>>> but the other never does, and manual appears the only way to keep the
>>>>>> numbers down.
>>>>>> I had a similar thing with 2000. With that OS, if I tried to delete
>>>>>> a few at a time, they just regenerated as copy1, cop2 etc. At one
>>>>>> point I got to copy 10, and finished up with more than I had started.
>>>>>> Yes, it ran into the thousands of files and dozens of folders.
>>>>>> With XP I do this;
>>>>>> Start - Run - type %temp% - Select edit then 'select all'. Then go
>>>>>> to File - Delete.
>>>>>> Delete will start but will stop when a file is still in use. So
>>>>>> click on delete again until you are left with a dozen or so, then
>>>>>> select all but the latest time/dated ones, and delete them. You
>>>>>> should be left with 2, 3 or 4 files, all dated and timed the same.
>>>>>> I do this about once every two weeks.
>>>>>> Hope this is of help - with acknowledgement to Wesley Vogel MVP.
>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>> Antioch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Boot to DOS using a Startup floppy and type the following commands
>>>>>>> at the A:\> prompt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> REN c:\windows\temp c:\windows\old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MD C:\windows\Temp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reboot to Windows, and then delete the C;\Windows\old folder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then check frequently the content of the new Temp folder - when you
>>>>>>> see one or two new HPxxxx.xx files there, open one in Notepad, and
>>>>>>> see what the contents are
>>>>>>> post back, and let us know aht's there, and we may be able to
>>>>>>> isolate the cause, and find a cure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>>>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>>>>>> NG's
>>>>>>> "Keith Young" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
>>>>>>>> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with
>>>>>>>> basically the same name (slightly differet). The names start with
>>>>>>>> HP and then have slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files
>>>>>>>> to delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but
>>>>>>>> apparently that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have
>>>>>>>> been having some strange problems with the computer and clearing
>>>>>>>> this temp directory in the past has helped.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can I get rid of these files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Keith Young]

Thanks to everyone for your help. I will try the suggestions and report
back.

Keith
"Keith Young" > wrote in message
...
> Not sure what is going on but I am trying to clear my windows.temp
> directory. The are more than 36,000 files in there all with basically the
> same name (slightly differet). The names start with HP and then have
> slight variations in the remainder of the name.
>
> My WINME computer locks up when I try and select all of the files to
> delete. I tried to clear through the Disk Cleanup utility but apparently
> that doesnt cleat the Windows.Temp directory. I have been having some
> strange problems with the computer and clearing this temp directory in the
> past has helped.
>
> Can this have anything to do with my HP932 printer?
>
> How can I get rid of these files.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Keith
>

[[email protected]]

I will suggest HS WinPerfect which can clean hard disk and system
registry, optimizes memory, adjusts system specific settings,
accelerates internet connection, improves cpu usage, maintains
security, detects spyware/adware and un-install software no longer
wanted. The core of the software is based on CleanDisk Pro
http://haysoft.com/main/content/view/3020/32/lang,en/

[Shane]

Sounds like a big piece of crap!


Shane


> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I will suggest HS WinPerfect which can clean hard disk and system
> registry, optimizes memory, adjusts system specific settings,
> accelerates internet connection, improves cpu usage, maintains
> security, detects spyware/adware and un-install software no longer
> wanted. The core of the software is based on CleanDisk Pro
> http://haysoft.com/main/content/view/3020/32/lang,en/
>

[Shane]

Sorry. Meant a *big* piece of crap!


Shane



"Shane" > wrote in message
...
> Sounds like a big piece of crap!
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>I will suggest HS WinPerfect which can clean hard disk and system
>> registry, optimizes memory, adjusts system specific settings,
>> accelerates internet connection, improves cpu usage, maintains
>> security, detects spyware/adware and un-install software no longer
>> wanted. The core of the software is based on CleanDisk Pro
>> http://haysoft.com/main/content/view/3020/32/lang,en/
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

Shane > wrote:

> Sorry. Meant a *big* piece of crap!

ROFL
--
Mike

[Noel Paton]

Is it expensive, too???
<vbeg<>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Shane" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry. Meant a *big* piece of crap!
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Sounds like a big piece of crap!
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>>I will suggest HS WinPerfect which can clean hard disk and system
>>> registry, optimizes memory, adjusts system specific settings,
>>> accelerates internet connection, improves cpu usage, maintains
>>> security, detects spyware/adware and un-install software no longer
>>> wanted. The core of the software is based on CleanDisk Pro
>>> http://haysoft.com/main/content/view/3020/32/lang,en/
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Shane]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Shane > wrote:
>
>> Sorry. Meant a *big* piece of crap!
>
> ROFL

:-)

Where'd we be without that kind of stuff though, eh Mike? Thank Heavens for
little minds, as Maurice Chevalier might have said!

Shane

[Shane]

What's that then, Noel? A grin with a duck bill?

You're right though. It sounds like a big, *expensive* piece of crap!



Shane



"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Is it expensive, too???
> <vbeg<>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Sorry. Meant a *big* piece of crap!
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>>
>> "Shane" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Sounds like a big piece of crap!
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>>I will suggest HS WinPerfect which can clean hard disk and system
>>>> registry, optimizes memory, adjusts system specific settings,
>>>> accelerates internet connection, improves cpu usage, maintains
>>>> security, detects spyware/adware and un-install software no longer
>>>> wanted. The core of the software is based on CleanDisk Pro
>>>> http://haysoft.com/main/content/view/3020/32/lang,en/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mike M]

Shane > wrote:

> Where'd we be without that kind of stuff though, eh Mike? Thank
> Heavens for little minds, as Maurice Chevalier might have said!

Indeed. You're in good form today Shane!
--
Mike