System Restore

[ms]

This is a used computer with unknown history.

Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?

How to disable System Restore?

Is this desireable to save system resoures?

TIA

MS

[Mike M]

If you have a system restore checkpoint dated May 2005 and the PC has been
used since then rather than sitting switched off, this could suggest that
system restore is fubared and my advice would be to reset system restore
and clear the archive.

To reset system restore:
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you
restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally more
than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to
be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days
during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

Finally I would suggest that you carry out the following quick test to
confirm that all is now in order.
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you create a checkpoint?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
e) Reboot your PC
Was the checkpoint retained?
--
Mike Maltby



ms > wrote:

> This is a used computer with unknown history.
>
> Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?
>
> How to disable System Restore?
>
> Is this desireable to save system resoures?

[Shane]

"ms" > wrote in message
...
> This is a used computer with unknown history.
>
> Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?
>

It's imperative that you delete files that old, one should not restore back
more than a week or two (say a week if you use it daily, two if you don't!).

> How to disable System Restore?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;264887

>
> Is this desireable to save system resoures?
>

No. System Restore is there for a very good reason. A great many problems
that would otherwise require considerable expertise and/or much work to
recover from, may be resolved in a couple of minutes by restoring to the
last checkpoint. Just set the allocated space to about 200-500MB. A lot of
arrogant rubbish is spouted about Win ME and System Restore by people who
should just stick with 98 and are really just trying to ring their own bell,
like Windows user versions of Linux trolls.

Look here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5BLN%5D;267951

Shane

[Shane]

Glad to see Mike is abroad! I'll bow out now. If you want to know about
System Restore in Win ME, just follow Mike's advice!

Hi Mike! I'll go watch telly now then, before I have my coffee and hit the
sack. After Crime Scene Investigation. After QI. When the fire's gone out.

Shane


"Shane" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ms" > wrote in message
> ...
>> This is a used computer with unknown history.
>>
>> Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?
>>
>
> It's imperative that you delete files that old, one should not restore
> back more than a week or two (say a week if you use it daily, two if you
> don't!).
>
>> How to disable System Restore?
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;264887
>
>>
>> Is this desireable to save system resoures?
>>
>
> No. System Restore is there for a very good reason. A great many problems
> that would otherwise require considerable expertise and/or much work to
> recover from, may be resolved in a couple of minutes by restoring to the
> last checkpoint. Just set the allocated space to about 200-500MB. A lot of
> arrogant rubbish is spouted about Win ME and System Restore by people who
> should just stick with 98 and are really just trying to ring their own
> bell, like Windows user versions of Linux trolls.
>
> Look here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5BLN%5D;267951
>
> Shane
>

[Mike M]

Shane > wrote:

> Glad to see Mike is abroad! I'll bow out now. If you want to know
> about System Restore in Win ME, just follow Mike's advice!
>
> Hi Mike! I'll go watch telly now then, before I have my coffee and
> hit the sack. After Crime Scene Investigation. After QI. When the
> fire's gone out.

Hi Shane,

<VBG>

I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough of
TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)
--
Mike

[ms]

Mike M wrote:
> If you have a system restore checkpoint dated May 2005 and the PC has
> been used since then rather than sitting switched off, this could
> suggest that system restore is fubared and my advice would be to reset
> system restore and clear the archive.
>
> To reset system restore:
> System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
> System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you
> restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
> System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
> System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
> automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
> Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
> System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
> slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally more
> than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to
> be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days
> during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.
>
> Finally I would suggest that you carry out the following quick test to
> confirm that all is now in order.
> a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
> b) Create a manual checkpoint
> Could you create a checkpoint?
> c) Delete the shortcut
> d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
> Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
> e) Reboot your PC
> Was the checkpoint retained?

I can, of course, create a shortcut. But please explain:

> b) Create a manual checkpoint

Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?
Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on desktop. Can
I do this anywhere? I use a windows shell, never work in desktop except to dial up.

MS

[Mike M]

>> b) Create a manual checkpoint
>
> Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?

No. I mean create a manual checkpoint. That is open system restore
[Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools], click create a restore
point and follow the prompts.

> Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on
> desktop. Can I do this anywhere?

The shortcut has to be in an area monitored by system restore and the
desktop is the easiest accessed of such locations but if you want to use
another location so be it.

> I use a windows shell

As does everyone, for most it is called Windows Explorer although some
still use progman.

> I never work in desktop except to dial up.

What does dial up have to do with the shell or gui? Do you mean that you
are using VNC or something similar to access the Win Me system remotely?
--
Mike Maltby



ms > wrote:

>
> I can, of course, create a shortcut. But please explain:
>
>> b) Create a manual checkpoint
>
> Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?
> Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on
> desktop. Can I do this anywhere? I use a windows shell, never work in
> desktop except to dial up.
> MS

[Shane]

> I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
> of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)

I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping it's
because of the codeine!

Anyway, 'Night, mate!


Shane

[Noel Paton]

"Shane" > wrote in message
...
>> I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
>> of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)
>
> I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
> doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping
> it's
> because of the codeine!
>

Nah - it's that you old fogies tend to drop off every five minutes anyhow!
:)
<gd&r>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

[Shane]

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
>>> of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)
>>
>> I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
>> doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping
>> it's
>> because of the codeine!
>>
>
> Nah - it's that you old fogies tend to drop off every five minutes anyhow!
> :)
> <gd&r>
>

Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!

Shane

[Joan Archer]

<lol> Take no notice Shane he's older than you and not far behind Mike <g>
Joan



Shane wrote:
>
> Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!
>
> Shane

[Shane]

Jeez, I didn't think Mike was *that* old! <rofl>

Hey, Mike - if you're older than Noel, kudos for still being alive! There
can't be many who can say that!


Shane


"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> <lol> Take no notice Shane he's older than you and not far behind Mike <g>
> Joan
>
>
>
> Shane wrote:
>>
>> Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!
>>
>> Shane
>
>

[Heather]

You are a brave man, Charlie Brown......to try and take on Sir Michael
of London.....LOL!!

Figgs

"Shane" > wrote in message
...
> Jeez, I didn't think Mike was *that* old! <rofl>
>
> Hey, Mike - if you're older than Noel, kudos for still being alive!
> There can't be many who can say that!
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> <lol> Take no notice Shane he's older than you and not far behind
>> Mike <g>
>> Joan
>>
>>
>>
>> Shane wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Shane
>>
>>
>
>

[Shane]

I think if you look again, Figgs, you'll see Mike's not the target and this
was more a case of 'battle joined'!

Shane


"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> You are a brave man, Charlie Brown......to try and take on Sir Michael of
> London.....LOL!!
>
> Figgs
>
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jeez, I didn't think Mike was *that* old! <rofl>
>>
>> Hey, Mike - if you're older than Noel, kudos for still being alive! There
>> can't be many who can say that!
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> <lol> Take no notice Shane he's older than you and not far behind Mike
>>> <g>
>>> Joan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Noel Paton]

OK, Sir Prancelot - Have at it!
:)
--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Shane" > wrote in message
...
>I think if you look again, Figgs, you'll see Mike's not the target and this
>was more a case of 'battle joined'!
>

[Heather]

LOL!! You are getting up there, old sock!! Having reached the half
century mark......snicker.

Now I will have to check and see when Mike's birthday is....I think it
is March, IIRC. Joanie???

Figgs

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> OK, Sir Prancelot - Have at it!
> :)
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I think if you look again, Figgs, you'll see Mike's not the target and
>>this was more a case of 'battle joined'!
>>
>
>

[Joan Archer]

You called <g>

I'll be in touch.
Joan


Heather wrote:
> LOL!! You are getting up there, old sock!! Having reached the half
> century mark......snicker.
>
> Now I will have to check and see when Mike's birthday is....I think it
> is March, IIRC. Joanie???
>
> Figgs
>

[Mike M]

Shane > wrote:

> Jeez, I didn't think Mike was *that* old! <rofl>
>
> Hey, Mike - if you're older than Noel, kudos for still being alive!
> There can't be many who can say that!

Hi Shane,

A "lot" older. :-)

Back after having had to totally rebuild the box I use for mail and news
following two fan failures. :-(
--
Mike

[Noel Paton]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Shane > wrote:
>
>> Jeez, I didn't think Mike was *that* old! <rofl>
>>
>> Hey, Mike - if you're older than Noel, kudos for still being alive!
>> There can't be many who can say that!
>
> Hi Shane,
>
> A "lot" older. :-)
>
> Back after having had to totally rebuild the box I use for mail and news
> following two fan failures. :-(



"A fanny thing happened on the way to the forum..."
<gd&r - vvvvvF!>
--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

[Mike M]

Noel Paton > wrote:

> "A fanny thing happened on the way to the forum..."
> <gd&r - vvvvvF!>

I wish I knew what was going on with this box. Brand new cpu cooler and
fan, cpu fan speed lovely and steady but the cpu temp is at the upper end
of my limits. I did find though that the 120mm exhaust fan I had
installed at the rear of the case had also failed and am currently running
without that fan. I'm guessing that the exhaust fan was more effective
than I thought in helping to keep the overall temps down and that once
I've replaced it I'll start to see the cpu temp fall. Only problem is
that the new cpu fan is fairly noisy but hopefully I'll be able to slow
that one down once the new exhaust fan is fitted.
--
Mike

[Shane]

'Spect you've sorted it by now, Mike. But just my twopenn'orth, first time I
investigated temps about 10 deg. higher than normal was after I fitted, iirc
the cd rewriter. Although the wiring was at least 2 inches away from it, it
was nonetheless now hanging into the path of the cpu fan, and that made the
difference. Of course if you've got fans actually failing that presumably
has something to do with it!

Shane


"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Noel Paton > wrote:
>
>> "A fanny thing happened on the way to the forum..."
>> <gd&r - vvvvvF!>
>
> I wish I knew what was going on with this box. Brand new cpu cooler and
> fan, cpu fan speed lovely and steady but the cpu temp is at the upper end
> of my limits. I did find though that the 120mm exhaust fan I had
> installed at the rear of the case had also failed and am currently running
> without that fan. I'm guessing that the exhaust fan was more effective
> than I thought in helping to keep the overall temps down and that once
> I've replaced it I'll start to see the cpu temp fall. Only problem is
> that the new cpu fan is fairly noisy but hopefully I'll be able to slow
> that one down once the new exhaust fan is fitted.
> --
> Mike
>
>

[Shane]

I'll have at *you*, varlet!

So, if I got a car, would you clean it up for me?

;-)


Shane

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> OK, Sir Prancelot - Have at it!
> :)
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Shane" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I think if you look again, Figgs, you'll see Mike's not the target and
>>this was more a case of 'battle joined'!
>>
>
>

[Noel Paton]

Sure - the day after I cleaned my own :)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Shane" > wrote in message
...
> I'll have at *you*, varlet!
>
> So, if I got a car, would you clean it up for me?
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Shane
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> OK, Sir Prancelot - Have at it!
>> :)