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JUDY
May 23rd 05, 12:17 AM
I have tried all the ideas in this discussion group and still can't read from
my cd rom. The CD_RW Rom worked previously. I think the problem was the
result of downloading Media Player 9 which I have uninstalled. I switched
CD-RW rom with one that is working in another machine and had the same
problem, so I know it is not the Cd rom. When I insert a CD, it spins,
stops, spins, stops and then nothing. If I go to explorer and try to start
it, then it says "insert CD". I tried the hint of playing an audio CD and
really got excited because the CD played! But then I couldn't get the
internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
I just got. Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
appreciated!
--
Judy

glee
May 23rd 05, 01:41 AM
The CD-RW drive is not likely to work correctly if at all when connected to the IDE
connector on the sound card. You need to connect it to one of the IDE connectors on
the motherboard, after jumpering the drive correctly for the position you install
it.

Re: you error in GFXDRV.DRV, try this:
Click Start> Settings> Control Panel
Double-click System
Click the Performance tab, then click the Graphics button.
Move the Hardware Acceleration slider until it is one notch to the right of None,
the Basic acceleration setting.
Click OK, and then click Close.
When you are prompted to restart your computer, click Yes.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx


"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> I have tried all the ideas in this discussion group and still can't read from
> my cd rom. The CD_RW Rom worked previously. I think the problem was the
> result of downloading Media Player 9 which I have uninstalled. I switched
> CD-RW rom with one that is working in another machine and had the same
> problem, so I know it is not the Cd rom. When I insert a CD, it spins,
> stops, spins, stops and then nothing. If I go to explorer and try to start
> it, then it says "insert CD". I tried the hint of playing an audio CD and
> really got excited because the CD played! But then I couldn't get the
> internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
> GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
> I just got. Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
> three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
> and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
> that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
> never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
> card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
> appreciated!
> --
> Judy

JUDY
May 23rd 05, 03:22 AM
Thanks for the response. I think it is connected to the motherboard (I am
not used to doing this type of stuff!) - the large board at the bottom of the
computer - it is a small wire and connector. The drive is jumpered on the
master slot which is what it was on before it stopped recognizing the Cd. I
think everything is connceted the same way it was connected when it was
working fine. Also, I was able to play an audio CD, but then all that other
stuff wouldn't work so I am afraid to do that again! Any other suggestions?

"glee" wrote:

> The CD-RW drive is not likely to work correctly if at all when connected to the IDE
> connector on the sound card. You need to connect it to one of the IDE connectors on
> the motherboard, after jumpering the drive correctly for the position you install
> it.
>
> Re: you error in GFXDRV.DRV, try this:
> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel
> Double-click System
> Click the Performance tab, then click the Graphics button.
> Move the Hardware Acceleration slider until it is one notch to the right of None,
> the Basic acceleration setting.
> Click OK, and then click Close.
> When you are prompted to restart your computer, click Yes.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx
>
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > I have tried all the ideas in this discussion group and still can't read from
> > my cd rom. The CD_RW Rom worked previously. I think the problem was the
> > result of downloading Media Player 9 which I have uninstalled. I switched
> > CD-RW rom with one that is working in another machine and had the same
> > problem, so I know it is not the Cd rom. When I insert a CD, it spins,
> > stops, spins, stops and then nothing. If I go to explorer and try to start
> > it, then it says "insert CD". I tried the hint of playing an audio CD and
> > really got excited because the CD played! But then I couldn't get the
> > internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
> > GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
> > I just got. Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
> > three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
> > and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
> > that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
> > never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
> > card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
> > appreciated!
> > --
> > Judy
>
>

Brian A.
May 23rd 05, 04:01 AM
"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> But then I couldn't get the
> internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
> GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
> I just got.

Have you installed any new software lately? I've read where Real Player and a
few other apps have caused corrupted video drivers? You might want to check to
your video chip/adapter manufacturers site for the latest updated drivers,
download and install them per their instructions.


Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
> three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
> and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
> that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
> never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
> card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
> appreciated!

Have you tried removing the sound connector cable from the drive and the sound
card to see if it solves the issue?
Do any conflicts show for the drive in DM?
Have you tried the drive in another machine to see if it works?
Have tried the drive on the other IDE channel?
Have you tried a different ribbon cable?
Are the drives connected properly on the ribbon cables and Master/Slave set?

Doubtful, but might be the issue:
Click Start > Run, type in: regedit and press Enter

Navigate to:

hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolsets\servi ces\vxd\ios



In the right pane see if there is an entry "NoIDE". If there is, delete the
NoIDE entry, close out and reboot.


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

glee
May 23rd 05, 04:54 AM
OK, I misunderstood what you wrote. It sounded to me as if you had the drive
connected to an IDE connector on the sound card (older sound cards had them) rather
than the motherboard. You are apparently referring to the audio cable between the
CD-RW drive and the sound card.

Have a look at Brian A's reply, and post back with the info he asked about.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx

"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the response. I think it is connected to the motherboard (I am
> not used to doing this type of stuff!) - the large board at the bottom of the
> computer - it is a small wire and connector. The drive is jumpered on the
> master slot which is what it was on before it stopped recognizing the Cd. I
> think everything is connceted the same way it was connected when it was
> working fine. Also, I was able to play an audio CD, but then all that other
> stuff wouldn't work so I am afraid to do that again! Any other suggestions?
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > The CD-RW drive is not likely to work correctly if at all when connected to the
IDE
> > connector on the sound card. You need to connect it to one of the IDE
connectors on
> > the motherboard, after jumpering the drive correctly for the position you
install
> > it.
> >
> > Re: you error in GFXDRV.DRV, try this:
> > Click Start> Settings> Control Panel
> > Double-click System
> > Click the Performance tab, then click the Graphics button.
> > Move the Hardware Acceleration slider until it is one notch to the right of
None,
> > the Basic acceleration setting.
> > Click OK, and then click Close.
> > When you are prompted to restart your computer, click Yes.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx
> >
> >
> > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have tried all the ideas in this discussion group and still can't read from
> > > my cd rom. The CD_RW Rom worked previously. I think the problem was the
> > > result of downloading Media Player 9 which I have uninstalled. I switched
> > > CD-RW rom with one that is working in another machine and had the same
> > > problem, so I know it is not the Cd rom. When I insert a CD, it spins,
> > > stops, spins, stops and then nothing. If I go to explorer and try to start
> > > it, then it says "insert CD". I tried the hint of playing an audio CD and
> > > really got excited because the CD played! But then I couldn't get the
> > > internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
> > > GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
> > > I just got. Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
> > > three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
> > > and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
> > > that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
> > > never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
> > > card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
> > > appreciated!
> > > --
> > > Judy
> >
> >

JUDY
May 23rd 05, 08:57 PM
"Brian A." wrote:

> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > But then I couldn't get the
> > internet browser to work - message general protection fault in module
> > GFXDRV.DRV - had to go to safe mode to fix back and use WinASO Registry which
> > I just got.
>
> Have you installed any new software lately? I've read where Real Player and a
> few other apps have caused corrupted video drivers? You might want to check to
> your video chip/adapter manufacturers site for the latest updated drivers,
> download and install them per their instructions.

I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing Media
Player from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have Real
Player installed on this machine.
>
>
> Back to the CD-RW rom - I have been trying to get it to read for
> > three straight days/nights! I went into safe mode and deleted the drivers
> > and disk devices so they would reload in the correct order on start up, but
> > that did not fix the problem. I have a HI-Val 2242 CD-RW Rom (but I have
> > never attempted to burn a CD) and it is connected to a Creative Blaster sound
> > card. The other drive that I tried is a Mitsumi CRMC-FX2405. Help is
> > appreciated!
>
> Have you tried removing the sound connector cable from the drive and the sound
> card to see if it solves the issue?
Yes, no change if not plugged into card.
> Do any conflicts show for the drive in DM?
No conflicts show.
> Have you tried the drive in another machine to see if it works?
The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it was
working) - if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular
(not audio) CD in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is
listed as Audio.
The Hi Val does nothing in the Comaq - the CD rom drive does not even show
up in explorer. I also pulled the drive from the Compaq which works fine in
the Comaq and tried it on this machine and it does not work on this machine.
> Have tried the drive on the other IDE channel? Yes. Then I get a conflict on the secondary IDE.
> Have you tried a different ribbon cable? Yes, I got another ribbon cable from work and still have the problem.
> Are the drives connected properly on the ribbon cables and Master/Slave set? Yes.
>
> Doubtful, but might be the issue:
> Click Start > Run, type in: regedit and press Enter
>
> Navigate to:
>
> hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolsets\servi ces\vxd\ios
>
>
>
> In the right pane see if there is an entry "NoIDE". If there is, delete the
> NoIDE entry, close out and reboot.
"NoIDE" is not there.
> Thanks
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
>
>

Brian A.
May 24th 05, 12:27 AM
Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
Put a data CD in the drive

At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by ^,
do not type the ^:

cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
dir^adl: ex: dir d:

If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.

Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.

Post back with the results.

Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your response to me.
First you mention:
<quote>
I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing Media Player
from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have Real Player
installed on this machine.
</quote>
and then mention:
<quote>
The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it was working) -
if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular (not audio) CD
in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed as Audio.
</quote>

If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

JUDY
May 24th 05, 02:55 AM
"Brian A." wrote:

> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
I don't have a boot disk.
> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
> Put a data CD in the drive
>
> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by ^,
> do not type the ^:
>
> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
>
> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
>
> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
>
> Post back with the results.
>
> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your response to me.
> First you mention:

It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with the problem
drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and then uninstalled
it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I now have Real
Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive that is working
fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
Sooo - I have 3 drives
the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in my IBM machine
to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken

Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
an audio CD inserted
> <quote>
> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing Media Player
> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have Real Player
> installed on this machine.
> </quote>
> and then mention:
> <quote>
> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it was working) -
> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular (not audio) CD
> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed as Audio.
> </quote>
>
> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.
>
>
> Thanks for your patience!--
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
>

Brian A.
May 24th 05, 03:28 AM
Is the drive recognized and disk readable in DOS on the IBM?


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
> I don't have a boot disk.
>> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
>> Put a data CD in the drive
>>
>> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by
>> ^,
>> do not type the ^:
>>
>> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
>> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
>>
>> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
>>
>> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
>>
>> Post back with the results.
>>
>> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your response to me.
>> First you mention:
>
> It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with the problem
> drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and then uninstalled
> it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I now have Real
> Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive that is working
> fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
> Sooo - I have 3 drives
> the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
> The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
> and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in my IBM machine
> to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken
>
> Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
> Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
> Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
> Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
> Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
> Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
> an audio CD inserted
>> <quote>
>> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing Media
>> Player
>> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have Real Player
>> installed on this machine.
>> </quote>
>> and then mention:
>> <quote>
>> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it was
>> working) -
>> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular (not audio)
>> CD
>> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed as Audio.
>> </quote>
>>
>> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your patience!--
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko
>> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>

glee
May 24th 05, 04:11 AM
Brian, Shouldn't they be typing just <assigned drive letter>, such as D: ?
Typing CD D: will not switch you to the D: drive in DOS. You use Change
Directory (CD) to switch directories, not drives or partitions. To switch to
another drive (such as from A: to D:) and then do a Directory reading, you would
type:
D:
DIR

If you are using the command DIR D: then you should not need to switch drives
first....just DIR D: should work from the A: prompt, but I would prefer using the
commands I gave above to switch drives first.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
> Put a data CD in the drive
>
> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by ^,
> do not type the ^:
>
> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
>
> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.

Brian A.
May 24th 05, 05:11 AM
Yup, you are correct. Actually as long as you keep using dir stepping into
directories, you don't need the cd command.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Brian, Shouldn't they be typing just <assigned drive letter>, such as D: ?
> Typing CD D: will not switch you to the D: drive in DOS. You use Change
> Directory (CD) to switch directories, not drives or partitions. To switch to
> another drive (such as from A: to D:) and then do a Directory reading, you
> would
> type:
> D:
> DIR
>
> If you are using the command DIR D: then you should not need to switch drives
> first....just DIR D: should work from the A: prompt, but I would prefer using
> the
> commands I gave above to switch drives first.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
>> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
>> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
>> Put a data CD in the drive
>>
>> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by
>> ^,
>> do not type the ^:
>>
>> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
>> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
>>
>> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
>

JUDY
May 24th 05, 04:35 PM
How do I check it in DOS?

"Brian A." wrote:

> Is the drive recognized and disk readable in DOS on the IBM?
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
> > I don't have a boot disk.
> >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
> >> Put a data CD in the drive
> >>
> >> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each. Spaces noted by
> >> ^,
> >> do not type the ^:
> >>
> >> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
> >> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
> >>
> >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
> >>
> >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
> >>
> >> Post back with the results.
> >>
> >> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your response to me.
> >> First you mention:
> >
> > It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with the problem
> > drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and then uninstalled
> > it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I now have Real
> > Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive that is working
> > fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
> > Sooo - I have 3 drives
> > the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
> > The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
> > and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in my IBM machine
> > to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken
> >
> > Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
> > Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
> > Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
> > Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
> > Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
> > Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
> > an audio CD inserted
> >> <quote>
> >> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing Media
> >> Player
> >> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have Real Player
> >> installed on this machine.
> >> </quote>
> >> and then mention:
> >> <quote>
> >> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it was
> >> working) -
> >> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular (not audio)
> >> CD
> >> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed as Audio.
> >> </quote>
> >>
> >> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your patience!--
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko
> >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Brian A.
May 24th 05, 08:45 PM
"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> How do I check it in DOS?

As stated in my last response with a change on the commands, see below create
boot disk.

>> > I don't have a boot disk.

Put a formatted floppy in the drive.
In Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Startup Disk tab > Create Disk button

or you can download one from:
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Please read in the upper right "Read1st" for instructions on how to
download/create the disk.

<quote>
>> >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
>> >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
>> >> Put a data CD in the drive
>> >>
>> >> At the prompt use the DIR command and press Enter. Spaces noted by ^, do
>> >> not type the ^:
>> >>
>> >> dir^assigned drive letter: ex: dir d:
>> >>
>> >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
>> >>
>> >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
</quote>
If dir^assigned drive letter: generates an error, try:

assigned drive letter: and press Enter. ex: d:
dir d: and press Enter

>> >> Post back with the results.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

PCR
May 24th 05, 09:25 PM
The Startup Diskette will ask whether you want CD-ROM support. Select
"yes", & it will assign a letter to the CD drive. That is the letter
they are referring to as "Assigned Drive Letter". Then, at the A:\
Prompt, type that letter. Say it is "D:"; then...

D:
DIR

Did you get a listing? Then the CD drive is good, because DOS drivers
can access it. Windows drivers are having a problem accessing it, then.
So...


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
| How do I check it in DOS?
|
| "Brian A." wrote:
|
| > Is the drive recognized and disk readable in DOS on the IBM?
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > Brian A. Sesko
| > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| >
| >
| >
| > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
| > ...
| > >
| > >
| > > "Brian A." wrote:
| > >
| > >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
| > > I don't have a boot disk.
| > >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
| > >> Put a data CD in the drive
| > >>
| > >> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each.
Spaces noted by
| > >> ^,
| > >> do not type the ^:
| > >>
| > >> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
| > >> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
| > >>
| > >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
| > >>
| > >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
| > >>
| > >> Post back with the results.
| > >>
| > >> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your
response to me.
| > >> First you mention:
| > >
| > > It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with the
problem
| > > drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and then
uninstalled
| > > it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I now
have Real
| > > Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive that
is working
| > > fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
| > > Sooo - I have 3 drives
| > > the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
| > > The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
| > > and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in my
IBM machine
| > > to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken
| > >
| > > Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
| > > Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
| > > Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
| > > Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
| > > Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
| > > Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even though
it is not
| > > an audio CD inserted
| > >> <quote>
| > >> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing
Media
| > >> Player
| > >> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have
Real Player
| > >> installed on this machine.
| > >> </quote>
| > >> and then mention:
| > >> <quote>
| > >> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it
was
| > >> working) -
| > >> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular
(not audio)
| > >> CD
| > >> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed
as Audio.
| > >> </quote>
| > >>
| > >> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> Thanks for your patience!--
| > >>
| > >> Brian A. Sesko
| > >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > >> Conflicts start where information
lacks.
| > >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >

JUDY
May 24th 05, 10:29 PM
Ok, got it done and the disk recognized and readable in DOS. I got a
directory of the CD. Thanks for your patience in dealing with a novice! Now
what?

"Brian A." wrote:

> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > How do I check it in DOS?
>
> As stated in my last response with a change on the commands, see below create
> boot disk.
>
> >> > I don't have a boot disk.
>
> Put a formatted floppy in the drive.
> In Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Startup Disk tab > Create Disk button
>
> or you can download one from:
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>
> Please read in the upper right "Read1st" for instructions on how to
> download/create the disk.
>
> <quote>
> >> >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
> >> >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
> >> >> Put a data CD in the drive
> >> >>
> >> >> At the prompt use the DIR command and press Enter. Spaces noted by ^, do
> >> >> not type the ^:
> >> >>
> >> >> dir^assigned drive letter: ex: dir d:
> >> >>
> >> >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
> </quote>
> If dir^assigned drive letter: generates an error, try:
>
> assigned drive letter: and press Enter. ex: d:
> dir d: and press Enter
>
> >> >> Post back with the results.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
>

Brian A.
May 25th 05, 01:38 AM
First let's make sure of 2 things:
1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.

Once the drivers/software are at hand:
Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
if listed.
Reboot.

Right click IE on the desktop
Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.

Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete

Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.

Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.

Post back with results or questions.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Brian A.
May 25th 05, 01:40 AM
D: isn't necessary, simply typing "dir d:" will do, one less step is all.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> The Startup Diskette will ask whether you want CD-ROM support. Select
> "yes", & it will assign a letter to the CD drive. That is the letter
> they are referring to as "Assigned Drive Letter". Then, at the A:\
> Prompt, type that letter. Say it is "D:"; then...
>
> D:
> DIR
>
> Did you get a listing? Then the CD drive is good, because DOS drivers
> can access it. Windows drivers are having a problem accessing it, then.
> So...
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> | How do I check it in DOS?
> |
> | "Brian A." wrote:
> |
> | > Is the drive recognized and disk readable in DOS on the IBM?
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Brian A. Sesko
> | > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "Brian A." wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
> | > > I don't have a boot disk.
> | > >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
> | > >> Put a data CD in the drive
> | > >>
> | > >> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each.
> Spaces noted by
> | > >> ^,
> | > >> do not type the ^:
> | > >>
> | > >> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
> | > >> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
> | > >>
> | > >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows issue.
> | > >>
> | > >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
> | > >>
> | > >> Post back with the results.
> | > >>
> | > >> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your
> response to me.
> | > >> First you mention:
> | > >
> | > > It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with the
> problem
> | > > drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and then
> uninstalled
> | > > it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I now
> have Real
> | > > Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive that
> is working
> | > > fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
> | > > Sooo - I have 3 drives
> | > > the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
> | > > The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
> | > > and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in my
> IBM machine
> | > > to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken
> | > >
> | > > Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
> | > > Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
> | > > Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
> | > > Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
> | > > Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
> | > > Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even though
> it is not
> | > > an audio CD inserted
> | > >> <quote>
> | > >> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after installing
> Media
> | > >> Player
> | > >> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I have
> Real Player
> | > >> installed on this machine.
> | > >> </quote>
> | > >> and then mention:
> | > >> <quote>
> | > >> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person said it
> was
> | > >> working) -
> | > >> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a regular
> (not audio)
> | > >> CD
> | > >> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is listed
> as Audio.
> | > >> </quote>
> | > >>
> | > >> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on hand.
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >> Thanks for your patience!--
> | > >>
> | > >> Brian A. Sesko
> | > >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > >> Conflicts start where information
> lacks.
> | > >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | >
> | >
>
>

glee
May 25th 05, 02:35 AM
Brian, FWIW, my experience with Hi-Val CD-ROM and CD-RW drives (other than they
don't seem to work for long), is that the only "drivers" they include on disc are
DOS drivers for using the drive as a CD-ROM in real mode. So, installing drivers
from a disc for the CD-ROM or CD-RW drive will likely cause it to use real mode
drivers....which is what you are trying to avoid, no? Or am I mis-reading your
instructions?

A CD-RW drive will or should come with software for CD writing (EZ CD, Nero, etc),
but should work just fine with nothing but the standard Windows drivers installed,
*as a CD-ROM*, prior to installing the CD mastering software. Also, when you remove
the CD drives and drive controllers from DM in Safe Mode and restart in normal mode,
you will not see any hardware detection screens for the CD drive.....Windows should
silently install the CD drive without a peep. You will see a controller
installation prompt *if* a separate CD controller is present, but that will not
likely be on the disc that came with the CD-RW.

Perhaps I am mis-reading your post, and you can clarify.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> First let's make sure of 2 things:
> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>
> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
> if listed.
> Reboot.
>
> Right click IE on the desktop
> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>
> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>
> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>
> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>
> Post back with results or questions.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>

PCR
May 25th 05, 06:06 AM
You are correct, but I THOUGHT you or Glee preferred it this way.
Actually, I would just "DIR D:", myself, as you now say (provided that
is the letter). I see it did work for Judy; so, the CD drive is good. I
will let you & Glee battle it out over the proper Windows drivers to
use. It does look like my CD-R/W is working fine set apparently at...

Manufacturer.......... (Standard CD-ROM device)
Model................... (CD ROM drive)

....as shown at...

(1) "START button, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(2) Open the CDROM branch, &...
(a) D-Clk the drive in it (mine says "IDE-CD R/RW 4x4x24") for
Properties
(b) Click the Driver tab.
(c) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(d) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(e) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
| D: isn't necessary, simply typing "dir d:" will do, one less step is
all.
|
| --
|
| Brian A. Sesko
| { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
|
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > The Startup Diskette will ask whether you want CD-ROM support.
Select
| > "yes", & it will assign a letter to the CD drive. That is the letter
| > they are referring to as "Assigned Drive Letter". Then, at the A:\
| > Prompt, type that letter. Say it is "D:"; then...
| >
| > D:
| > DIR
| >
| > Did you get a listing? Then the CD drive is good, because DOS
drivers
| > can access it. Windows drivers are having a problem accessing it,
then.
| > So...
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
| > ...
| > | How do I check it in DOS?
| > |
| > | "Brian A." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Is the drive recognized and disk readable in DOS on the IBM?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > Brian A. Sesko
| > | > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > | > Conflicts start where information
lacks.
| > | > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "Brian A." wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Start the machine with a 98 boot disk w/CD support.
| > | > > I don't have a boot disk.
| > | > >> Take note near the end of boot at the assigned drive letter.
| > | > >> Put a data CD in the drive
| > | > >>
| > | > >> At the prompt type each command and press Enter after each.
| > Spaces noted by
| > | > >> ^,
| > | > >> do not type the ^:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> cd^assigned drive letter: ex: cd d:
| > | > >> dir^adl: ex: dir d:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> If you can see the contents of the CD then it is a windows
issue.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Remove the boot disk and press ctrl+alt+del to reboot.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Post back with the results.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Please advise if you mistyped the difference here in your
| > response to me.
| > | > >> First you mention:
| > | > >
| > | > > It is confusing! I have an IBM machine which is the one with
the
| > problem
| > | > > drive - it is the machine that I had loaded Media Player and
then
| > uninstalled
| > | > > it because the drive went south. This is the machine that I
now
| > have Real
| > | > > Player on. My other machine is a Compaq and it has a drive
that
| > is working
| > | > > fine and this machine has Media Player on it.
| > | > > Sooo - I have 3 drives
| > | > > the Compaq drive which works fine in the Compaq
| > | > > The Hi Val which is the one I am having the problems with
| > | > > and the "borrowed from work drive" to see if it would work in
my
| > IBM machine
| > | > > to see if my Hi Val drive was just broken
| > | > >
| > | > > Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
| > | > > Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
| > | > > Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
| > | > > Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
| > | > > Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
| > | > > Mitsumi drive initates Media Player in Compaq machine even
though
| > it is not
| > | > > an audio CD inserted
| > | > >> <quote>
| > | > >> I began having the problem with the CD-RW driver after
installing
| > Media
| > | > >> Player
| > | > >> from the Microsoft website. I have uninstalled it. Now I
have
| > Real Player
| > | > >> installed on this machine.
| > | > >> </quote>
| > | > >> and then mention:
| > | > >> <quote>
| > | > >> The Mitsumi CRMCFX2405 I borrowed from work (my IT person
said it
| > was
| > | > >> working) -
| > | > >> if I plug it into my Compaq machine, this drive with a
regular
| > (not audio)
| > | > >> CD
| > | > >> in it starts up the Windows Media Player and the drive is
listed
| > as Audio.
| > | > >> </quote>
| > | > >>
| > | > >> If it's as you stated, then there is a software issue on
hand.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Thanks for your patience!--
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Brian A. Sesko
| > | > >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > | > >> Conflicts start where information
| > lacks.
| > | > >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|

JUDY
May 25th 05, 04:38 PM
I have been to the Hi Val site and also had the problem of finding my drive
#. That is the only # on the drive - I thought maybe it was just so "old"
they didn't bother listing it anymore (says mfg 1998). It looked to me like
all of the older ones used the standard windows drivers. I previously
uninstalled DirectCD and Easy CE Creater. After uninstalling this software,
I also previously went into safe mode and removed All drives and ALL
controllers (except FIFO's) and the System device called PCI Bus and
restarted. See GLen's comment - I think that is how mine worked. But I did
not delete the Cookies and Temp files first. I'll give it another
uninstalling Real Player (haven't reinstalled DirectCD and Easy CD as yet)
and delete the cookies and temp.

"Brian A." wrote:

> First let's make sure of 2 things:
> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>
> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
> if listed.
> Reboot.
>
> Right click IE on the desktop
> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>
> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>
> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>
> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>
> Post back with results or questions.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>

JUDY
May 25th 05, 05:08 PM
Content.IE5Hi Brian - When I go to Windows/temp/ there are folders there and
if I select delete all I get the msg "The folder *folder name* is a system
folder. If you delete it, Windows or antoher program may no longer work
correctly. Are you sure you want to delete this folder am move all its
contents to the Recycle Bin?" The folders are Cookies, History and Temporary
Internet Files. Temporary Internet Files has an additional folder
Content.IE5 - this folder has additional folders E1gtduqs, jzccmwbv, Opahq781
and Wh4xgngt. Do I answer "yes" or "no"? Also there is another temporary
internet folder under the directory Windows - Windows/Temporary Internet
files AND Windows/Temp/Temorary Internet Files.

"Brian A." wrote:

> First let's make sure of 2 things:
> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>
> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
> if listed.
> Reboot.
>
> Right click IE on the desktop
> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>
> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>
> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>
> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>
> Post back with results or questions.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>

glee
May 25th 05, 07:46 PM
There should be no need to delete the actual folder trees. Brian gave instructions
for deleting the files, using the GUI that was made for it, not by deleting the
folders in Explorer.

Reboot.
Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
-Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
-Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.

Delete the Temporary Internet Files:
Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
offline content, and click OK, and OK.

There should normally not be a need to delete your Cookies for this type of problem.
If you want to, first export the Cookies to a file, from within IE:
In IE, click the File menu> Import and Export....then follow the wizard to export
the cookies to a file.
Following the export you can delete cookies here:
Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
Click the Delete Cookies button, on the General tab.

If you have more than one set of TIFs, you can delete the unused folder tree --
Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab> Settings
button:
Look at the "Current Location" listed....you want to keep that folder tree. You
can delete the other folder tree in Windows Explorer.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx


"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> Content.IE5Hi Brian - When I go to Windows/temp/ there are folders there and
> if I select delete all I get the msg "The folder *folder name* is a system
> folder. If you delete it, Windows or antoher program may no longer work
> correctly. Are you sure you want to delete this folder am move all its
> contents to the Recycle Bin?" The folders are Cookies, History and Temporary
> Internet Files. Temporary Internet Files has an additional folder
> Content.IE5 - this folder has additional folders E1gtduqs, jzccmwbv, Opahq781
> and Wh4xgngt. Do I answer "yes" or "no"? Also there is another temporary
> internet folder under the directory Windows - Windows/Temporary Internet
> files AND Windows/Temp/Temorary Internet Files.
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
> > First let's make sure of 2 things:
> > 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
> > in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> > 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> > latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
> > look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
> >
> > Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> > Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> > Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
> > if listed.
> > Reboot.
> >
> > Right click IE on the desktop
> > Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> > Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
> >
> > Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> > Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
> >
> > Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
> >
> > Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> > instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
> > are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
> >
> > Post back with results or questions.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian A. Sesko
> > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >
> >

Brian A.
May 25th 05, 08:58 PM
I've never used HIVal, and truly, this is the first I really heard mention of
them. I've always used Mitsumi, HP or Sony drives and to this day they all still
work, including an HP that was installed in '94. I know others don't wish for
them, perhaps I just have good luck with em. You didn't mis-read on getting away
from RM drivers, yet unless I'm mistaken, some drives require them to function
properly, perhaps it's a past memory for CD-ROMS.

Installed XP once to many or they went different from others. I really can't
recall if I was prompted but I do ?recall? seeing everything being installed,
another perhaps is because my machines are self built and I use all of Intels
drivers that are needed. Of course CD and other non-Intel hw not included.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Brian, FWIW, my experience with Hi-Val CD-ROM and CD-RW drives (other than
> they
> don't seem to work for long), is that the only "drivers" they include on disc
> are
> DOS drivers for using the drive as a CD-ROM in real mode. So, installing
> drivers
> from a disc for the CD-ROM or CD-RW drive will likely cause it to use real
> mode
> drivers....which is what you are trying to avoid, no? Or am I mis-reading
> your
> instructions?
>
> A CD-RW drive will or should come with software for CD writing (EZ CD, Nero,
> etc),
> but should work just fine with nothing but the standard Windows drivers
> installed,
> *as a CD-ROM*, prior to installing the CD mastering software. Also, when you
> remove
> the CD drives and drive controllers from DM in Safe Mode and restart in normal
> mode,
> you will not see any hardware detection screens for the CD drive.....Windows
> should
> silently install the CD drive without a peep. You will see a controller
> installation prompt *if* a separate CD controller is present, but that will
> not
> likely be on the disc that came with the CD-RW.
>
> Perhaps I am mis-reading your post, and you can clarify.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>

JUDY
May 26th 05, 04:02 PM
I did these things (also per Glen response) and I still can't read the CD in
windows. thinking of trying the window to my right --- the one that opens up
to the street! thanks.

"Brian A." wrote:

> First let's make sure of 2 things:
> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be entries
> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took a
> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>
> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD, etc,
> if listed.
> Reboot.
>
> Right click IE on the desktop
> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>
> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>
> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>
> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the drivers
> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>
> Post back with results or questions.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>

Brian A.
May 27th 05, 12:26 AM
See if this installation file I got from driverguide.com for the HiVal 2242
helps.
http://basconotw.mvps.com/inq_results3.htm


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
>I did these things (also per Glen response) and I still can't read the CD in
> windows. thinking of trying the window to my right --- the one that opens up
> to the street! thanks.
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> First let's make sure of 2 things:
>> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be
>> entries
>> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
>> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
>> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took
>> a
>> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>>
>> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
>> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
>> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD,
>> etc,
>> if listed.
>> Reboot.
>>
>> Right click IE on the desktop
>> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
>> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>>
>> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
>> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>>
>> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>>
>> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
>> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the
>> drivers
>> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>>
>> Post back with results or questions.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko
>> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>>

glee
May 27th 05, 02:04 AM
?? Your link takes me to:
http://basconotw.mvps.com/?f
with a lot of underwear ads, and some crappy pop-ups. Wassup with that?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> See if this installation file I got from driverguide.com for the HiVal 2242
> helps.
> http://basconotw.mvps.com/inq_results3.htm
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> >I did these things (also per Glen response) and I still can't read the CD in
> > windows. thinking of trying the window to my right --- the one that opens up
> > to the street! thanks.
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> First let's make sure of 2 things:
> >> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be
> >> entries
> >> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
> >> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
> >> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I took
> >> a
> >> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
> >>
> >> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
> >> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
> >> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD,
> >> etc,
> >> if listed.
> >> Reboot.
> >>
> >> Right click IE on the desktop
> >> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
> >> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
> >>
> >> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
> >> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
> >>
> >> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
> >>
> >> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
> >> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the
> >> drivers
> >> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
> >>
> >> Post back with results or questions.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko
> >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >>
>

Brian A.
May 27th 05, 02:36 AM
Tis a bonehead, I is. [|8 o }
I goofed the copy/paste edit switching it. I had a .com link in the clipboard
already which I pasted to change the comcast.net site, noticed the wrong addy
and mumbled slightly, typed basconotw.mvps forgetting the to change to .org.
Sorry bout that. <BSEG>

Try http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm

Now I'm curious to see what type of undies!

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"glee" > wrote in message
...
> ?? Your link takes me to:
> http://basconotw.mvps.com/?f
> with a lot of underwear ads, and some crappy pop-ups. Wassup with that?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
>> See if this installation file I got from driverguide.com for the HiVal 2242
>> helps.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.com/inq_results3.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko
>> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I did these things (also per Glen response) and I still can't read the CD in
>> > windows. thinking of trying the window to my right --- the one that opens
>> > up
>> > to the street! thanks.
>> >
>> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >
>> >> First let's make sure of 2 things:
>> >> 1) The drive isn't using Real Mode drivers. If it is there should/may be
>> >> entries
>> >> in either autoexec.bat or config.sys
>> >> 2) You have the drivers/software for the drive. Check HiVal's site for any
>> >> latest updated drivers/software. Software not necessary, drivers are. I
>> >> took
>> >> a
>> >> look and it appears you need more letters/#'s for the drive model.
>> >>
>> >> Once the drivers/software are at hand:
>> >> Uninstall Real Player via Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
>> >> Uninstall any software related to the CD drive including DirectCD, EazyCD,
>> >> etc,
>> >> if listed.
>> >> Reboot.
>> >>
>> >> Right click IE on the desktop
>> >> Click Properties > Delete Cookies button
>> >> Click Delete Files, place a check in Delete All Offline..., click OK > OK.
>> >>
>> >> Open Explorer and navigate to c:\windows\temp
>> >> Click once in the right pane, then press ctrl+A and press Delete
>> >>
>> >> Reboot to Safe Mode and remove all CD devices and related controllers.
>> >>
>> >> Windows will detect new hardware. Do not let Windows install any drivers,
>> >> instead select to install drivers from location and point to where the
>> >> drivers
>> >> are on the disk. When done reboot if asked.
>> >>
>> >> Post back with results or questions.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Brian A. Sesko
>> >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>

Brian A.
May 27th 05, 02:37 AM
Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

JUDY
May 27th 05, 05:11 PM
Didn't help.

"Brian A." wrote:

> Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
>

glee
May 29th 05, 04:18 AM
Judy, Is Brian working off-list with you on this problem, or have you just stopped
posting? Curious where you stand on the issue right now. Your results with the
three drives in three machines sounds off to me.....you wrote in an earlier post:
Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
Mitsumi drive initiates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
an audio CD inserted

Are you sure you had the drives all jumpered correctly in each of the computers you
tried them in, and did the BIOS list them on the boot screens during startup? Your
first two results re: the Hi-Val indicate a problem with that drive, but only if it
is installed correctly in each of the machines tested. The results with the
remaining drives make me wonder how they are cabled and jumpered in each machine and
how the BIOS regarded them.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> Didn't help.
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian A. Sesko
> > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >

Brian A.
May 29th 05, 05:04 AM
I'm running low on thoughts, yet here are 2 more:

In DM double click on the drive properties and see if DMA is enabled, if so
disable it and reboot.

This one you MUST MAKE SURE you have all of your drivers on hand in a folder on
the system. This is an extreme and last resort which many shy away from. I have
done it numerous times without complication, yet it is highly recommended that
you backup your system and especially any important data files before
attempting.
Start from scratch:
Click Start > Run, type in: regedit and press Enter
Click the + next to hkey_local_machine
Right click on Enum
Press Delete and confirm Yes.
Shutdown and remove all adapters/cards from the PCI/ISA/AGP slots and any
cables/power to drives except the OS drive.
Reboot and Windows will detect the hardware and begin the wizard install
process.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> Didn't help.
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko
>> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>

JUDY
May 31st 05, 11:47 PM
The DMA is disabled. The second solution sounds pretty scary for me! How do
I make sure I have all of my dirvers on hand in a folder on the system? I
have never done a system backup or backup of data files except for my Quicken
files. This is the machine that I have everything on - fax modem, new
router to conect to the Compaq machine, all my e-mail, my citrix connection
to work from home, pictures, etc. Maybe the sane thing to do is buy a new
machine. This is like a jigzaw puzzle!


"Brian A." wrote:

> I'm running low on thoughts, yet here are 2 more:
>
> In DM double click on the drive properties and see if DMA is enabled, if so
> disable it and reboot.
>
> This one you MUST MAKE SURE you have all of your drivers on hand in a folder on
> the system. This is an extreme and last resort which many shy away from. I have
> done it numerous times without complication, yet it is highly recommended that
> you backup your system and especially any important data files before
> attempting.
> Start from scratch:
> Click Start > Run, type in: regedit and press Enter
> Click the + next to hkey_local_machine
> Right click on Enum
> Press Delete and confirm Yes.
> Shutdown and remove all adapters/cards from the PCI/ISA/AGP slots and any
> cables/power to drives except the OS drive.
> Reboot and Windows will detect the hardware and begin the wizard install
> process.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > Didn't help.
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko
> >> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

JUDY
June 1st 05, 12:21 AM
Hi, Glen. Just stopped for a rest period. No resolution to problem as yet.
The drive was readable in DOS. Don't know what working off-list is. I
thought that I connected and jumpered all the drives the same way as the
drive that was working was connected and jumpered. I am not familiar with
the BIOS on the boot screen and where to look. I am sure that I did not pay
attention to that. I'll reboot and see if I can find it. Also, haven't
tried Brian's last suggestion - may be above my capabilities. Thanks.

"glee" wrote:

> Judy, Is Brian working off-list with you on this problem, or have you just stopped
> posting? Curious where you stand on the issue right now. Your results with the
> three drives in three machines sounds off to me.....you wrote in an earlier post:
> Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
> Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
> Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
> Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
> Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
> Mitsumi drive initiates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
> an audio CD inserted
>
> Are you sure you had the drives all jumpered correctly in each of the computers you
> tried them in, and did the BIOS list them on the boot screens during startup? Your
> first two results re: the Hi-Val indicate a problem with that drive, but only if it
> is installed correctly in each of the machines tested. The results with the
> remaining drives make me wonder how they are cabled and jumpered in each machine and
> how the BIOS regarded them.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > Didn't help.
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
> > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Brian A. Sesko
> > > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee
June 1st 05, 03:58 AM
"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> Hi, Glen. Just stopped for a rest period. No resolution to problem as yet.
> The drive was readable in DOS. Don't know what working off-list is.

It means working through private emails rather than in the groups.

> thought that I connected and jumpered all the drives the same way as the
> drive that was working was connected and jumpered.

The jumpers have to be set to either master or slave, unless you are using the Cable
Select method on all drives on a particular machine. If you install the drive in
the same relative location on another computer, then the jumpers are set
correctly....otherwise, they are not.

> I am not familiar with
> the BIOS on the boot screen and where to look. I am sure that I did not pay
> attention to that. I'll reboot and see if I can find it. Also, haven't
> tried Brian's last suggestion - may be above my capabilities. Thanks.

OK, lemme go look at that thread.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Judy, Is Brian working off-list with you on this problem, or have you just
stopped
> > posting? Curious where you stand on the issue right now. Your results with the
> > three drives in three machines sounds off to me.....you wrote in an earlier
post:
> > Hi Val drive in IBM machine won't recognize disk
> > Hi Val drive in Compaq machine won't recognize disk
> > Compaq drive works fine in Compaq
> > Compaq drive in IBM won't recognize disk
> > Mitsumi drive does not work in IBM
> > Mitsumi drive initiates Media Player in Compaq machine even though it is not
> > an audio CD inserted
> >
> > Are you sure you had the drives all jumpered correctly in each of the computers
you
> > tried them in, and did the BIOS list them on the boot screens during startup?
Your
> > first two results re: the Hi-Val indicate a problem with that drive, but only if
it
> > is installed correctly in each of the machines tested. The results with the
> > remaining drives make me wonder how they are cabled and jumpered in each machine
and
> > how the BIOS regarded them.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Didn't help.
> > >
> > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry for the bonehead typing/copy/paste on the link, it should be:
> > > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/inq_results3.htm
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Brian A. Sesko
> > > > { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Brian A.
June 2nd 05, 04:45 AM
"JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
...
> The DMA is disabled.

Try enabling it to see if it helps, if not or problems arise disable it again.


> The second solution sounds pretty scary for me!

As mentioned, it is an extreme last resort, let's wait and see if any other
suggestions arise.

Such as:
Did you install any software for the CD-RW?
If you did and it was before installing Real Player or Media Player (whichever
on the problem machine), this "may" be where it stems from. The problem with
installing new applications that are capable of multiple file types is many take
over the file types on install, they all think they need to be the default app
for the file types and some don't like to relinquish the grasp.

I suggest uninstalling any/all app types that have to do with the CD drive/s
via Add/Remove Programs. Once all are uninstalled, reinstall the one for the
CD-RW drive and see if it takes control back as the default app for the file
types it handles.


> How do I make sure I have all of my dirvers on hand in a folder on the system?

You can download/install/run the free Everest Home Edition which will give you
all the information you need on your systems enviroment, including hardware
type/manufacturer/model etc.
http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en


Once you have all the info needed, download the latest
drivers/firmware/software available from the manufacturers site and save them to
disk.

> I have never done a system backup or backup of data files except for my
> Quicken
> files. This is the machine that I have everything on - fax modem, new
> router to conect to the Compaq machine, all my e-mail, my citrix connection
> to work from home, pictures, etc.

The best way to backup is to use an imaging application such as Norton Ghost or
similar. It creates an exact image of your entire system, and should anything
ever happen to your system, you can restore it back to the exact state it was in
from your most recently created image. Images can be created to a separate drive
or partition (volume) even over the network to a separate machine. I believe
BootIt NG creates images but will leave it to Glen or someone else for comment
on that as I don't use it and I don't believe it will work over a network.

Since I note and come to the belief that you have 2 home machines networked. It
would be simple enough to save your driver files to the machine without the
issue.


> Maybe the sane thing to do is buy a new machine.

Many times replacing older w/newer does save ones sanity if needed and if cost
effective.


> This is like a jigzaw puzzle!

Aren't they all!

BTW, there are revisions/additions I will need to make to the "extreme last
resort" instructions.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

JUDY
June 3rd 05, 03:55 PM
Hi Brian, thanks again! I work on Thursday and Friday, so I won't get to
these ideas until next week. Judy

"Brian A." wrote:

> "JUDY" <judy_501_judy> wrote in message
> ...
> > The DMA is disabled.
>
> Try enabling it to see if it helps, if not or problems arise disable it again.
>
>
> > The second solution sounds pretty scary for me!
>
> As mentioned, it is an extreme last resort, let's wait and see if any other
> suggestions arise.
>
> Such as:
> Did you install any software for the CD-RW?
> If you did and it was before installing Real Player or Media Player (whichever
> on the problem machine), this "may" be where it stems from. The problem with
> installing new applications that are capable of multiple file types is many take
> over the file types on install, they all think they need to be the default app
> for the file types and some don't like to relinquish the grasp.
>
> I suggest uninstalling any/all app types that have to do with the CD drive/s
> via Add/Remove Programs. Once all are uninstalled, reinstall the one for the
> CD-RW drive and see if it takes control back as the default app for the file
> types it handles.
>
>
> > How do I make sure I have all of my dirvers on hand in a folder on the system?
>
> You can download/install/run the free Everest Home Edition which will give you
> all the information you need on your systems enviroment, including hardware
> type/manufacturer/model etc.
> http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
>
>
> Once you have all the info needed, download the latest
> drivers/firmware/software available from the manufacturers site and save them to
> disk.
>
> > I have never done a system backup or backup of data files except for my
> > Quicken
> > files. This is the machine that I have everything on - fax modem, new
> > router to conect to the Compaq machine, all my e-mail, my citrix connection
> > to work from home, pictures, etc.
>
> The best way to backup is to use an imaging application such as Norton Ghost or
> similar. It creates an exact image of your entire system, and should anything
> ever happen to your system, you can restore it back to the exact state it was in
> from your most recently created image. Images can be created to a separate drive
> or partition (volume) even over the network to a separate machine. I believe
> BootIt NG creates images but will leave it to Glen or someone else for comment
> on that as I don't use it and I don't believe it will work over a network.
>
> Since I note and come to the belief that you have 2 home machines networked. It
> would be simple enough to save your driver files to the machine without the
> issue.
>
>
> > Maybe the sane thing to do is buy a new machine.
>
> Many times replacing older w/newer does save ones sanity if needed and if cost
> effective.
>
>
> > This is like a jigzaw puzzle!
>
> Aren't they all!
>
> BTW, there are revisions/additions I will need to make to the "extreme last
> resort" instructions.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
>