Java Runtime d/l hiding

[rooster]

I tried to d/l the Java Runtime Environment program to W98/ IE6.
According to the Java d/l site, the Verify signal (animated steaming cup of
coffee) indicated a successful d/l. During the installation, *no* cues nor
clues appeared to indicate where the program would be installed.
When I tried to "Find" the program, I tried: "C: \Program
Files\Java\xxxx.1.[45].digit\\bin" and "java.exe" and every combo I could
think up, but no luck. I looked at my temp-internet files and couldn't see
anything there, either.

It is a given that I have spazzed someplace here. Can any of you CSI
types, (Computer Spazz Investigations) clue me in?

rooster

[AlmostBob]

look in control panel for "Java Plug In"
--
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spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use

Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_


"rooster" > wrote in message
...
> I tried to d/l the Java Runtime Environment program to W98/ IE6.
> According to the Java d/l site, the Verify signal (animated steaming cup
of
> coffee) indicated a successful d/l. During the installation, *no* cues nor
> clues appeared to indicate where the program would be installed.
> When I tried to "Find" the program, I tried: "C: \Program
> Files\Java\xxxx.1.[45].digit\\bin" and "java.exe" and every combo I could
> think up, but no luck. I looked at my temp-internet files and couldn't see
> anything there, either.
>
> It is a given that I have spazzed someplace here. Can any of you CSI
> types, (Computer Spazz Investigations) clue me in?
>
> rooster
>
>
>
>

[rooster]

Hi Almost Bob;

... nothing manifest in Control Panel Window; likewise, Add/Delete
Programs and Internet Options.

rooster

[glee]

Windows Manual Download and Installation Instructions for the Java Rutime
Environment (JRE):
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010300.xml

Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml

Please provide the link you are using to install the java Runtime Environment.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rooster" > wrote in message
...
> I tried to d/l the Java Runtime Environment program to W98/ IE6.
> According to the Java d/l site, the Verify signal (animated steaming cup of
> coffee) indicated a successful d/l. During the installation, *no* cues nor
> clues appeared to indicate where the program would be installed.
> When I tried to "Find" the program, I tried: "C: \Program
> Files\Java\xxxx.1.[45].digit\\bin" and "java.exe" and every combo I could
> think up, but no luck. I looked at my temp-internet files and couldn't see
> anything there, either.
>
> It is a given that I have spazzed someplace here. Can any of you CSI
> types, (Computer Spazz Investigations) clue me in?
>
> rooster
>
>
>
>

[glee]

....also:
Java Technology Help - Installation:
http://java.com/en/download/help/index_installing.xml
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Windows Manual Download and Installation Instructions for the Java Rutime
> Environment (JRE):
> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010300.xml
>
> Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
>
> Please provide the link you are using to install the java Runtime Environment.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "rooster" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I tried to d/l the Java Runtime Environment program to W98/ IE6.
> > According to the Java d/l site, the Verify signal (animated steaming cup of
> > coffee) indicated a successful d/l. During the installation, *no* cues nor
> > clues appeared to indicate where the program would be installed.
> > When I tried to "Find" the program, I tried: "C: \Program
> > Files\Java\xxxx.1.[45].digit\\bin" and "java.exe" and every combo I could
> > think up, but no luck. I looked at my temp-internet files and couldn't see
> > anything there, either.
> >
> > It is a given that I have spazzed someplace here. Can any of you CSI
> > types, (Computer Spazz Investigations) clue me in?
> >
> > rooster
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[AlmostBob]

If the control panel applet isnt there, the install didnt complete, was AV
and antispyware disabled during the install

--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use

Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_


"rooster" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Almost Bob;
>
> ... nothing manifest in Control Panel Window; likewise, Add/Delete
> Programs and Internet Options.
>
> rooster
>
>

[glee]

Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"AlmostBob" > wrote in message
...
> If the control panel applet isnt there, the install didnt complete, was AV
> and antispyware disabled during the install
>
> --
> Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
> spybot http://security.kolla.de
> AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
> Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
> Catalog of removal tools (1)
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
> Catalog of removal tools (2)
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387
> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use
>
> Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
> _
>
>
> "rooster" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Almost Bob;
> >
> > ... nothing manifest in Control Panel Window; likewise, Add/Delete
> > Programs and Internet Options.
> >
> > rooster
> >
> >
>
>

[rooster]

AlmostBob & Glee;

The long story..... awww, forget it.

The short story: "Ol' Paint" here is limping along with 82% free, 16MB
RAM @ 133 MHz. The Sys Req's for Java Runtime 5.0 are: 32MB @ 166MHz.

Unless there is a viable workaround for the prohibit: "This machine does
not have the recommended amount of memory to install this product", then I'm
snookered. Even if I could install it, could I run it?

As ever, I appreciate your insight and help.

rooster

[glee]

"Get more RAM" seems to be the only workaround.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"rooster" > wrote in message
...
> AlmostBob & Glee;
>
> The long story..... awww, forget it.
>
> The short story: "Ol' Paint" here is limping along with 82% free, 16MB
> RAM @ 133 MHz. The Sys Req's for Java Runtime 5.0 are: 32MB @ 166MHz.
>
> Unless there is a viable workaround for the prohibit: "This machine does
> not have the recommended amount of memory to install this product", then I'm
> snookered. Even if I could install it, could I run it?
>
> As ever, I appreciate your insight and help.
>
> rooster
>
>

[Brian A.]

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml

What's up with these instructions?
From the link:

9. Close all applications including the browser.
10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation process.

Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
installation.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

[glee]

What part don't you understand?

....glen

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
>
> What's up with these instructions?
> From the link:
>
> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation process.
>
> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
> installation.
>
> --
>
> Brian A.
>
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
>
>
>

[Brian A.]

Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install. Kind
of tough for those not always connected.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"glee" > wrote in message
...
> What part don't you understand?
>
> ...glen
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
>> "glee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
>> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
>>
>> What's up with these instructions?
>> From the link:
>>
>> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
>> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation
>> process.
>>
>> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
>> installation.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A.
>>
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[rooster]

Glen;

I know, I know; I'm procrastinating. I am probably going to have to go
over to the enemy (Mac G5) to optimise the programs I want to run and I'm
still trying to find a compelling reason to stay with Uncle Bill & the Boys
(& Girls). The i-Life Platform and Garage Band Suite are exactly what I am
looking for and in it's simplest configuration.

À bientôt,

rooster

[glee]

Not at all. I am connected right now with dial-up. I can close my browser and
newsreader and still be connected through DUN. So, where's the problem? The only
time this would be a problem is if you use <shudder> AOL....but that's not really an
ISP, is it?

....glen

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install. Kind
> of tough for those not always connected.
>
> --
>
> Brian A.
>
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What part don't you understand?
> >
> > ...glen
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "glee" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> >> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
> >>
> >> What's up with these instructions?
> >> From the link:
> >>
> >> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
> >> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation
> >> process.
> >>
> >> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A.
> >>
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

[glee]

Well, we'll miss your questions here..... ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"rooster" > wrote in message
...
> Glen;
>
> I know, I know; I'm procrastinating. I am probably going to have to go
> over to the enemy (Mac G5) to optimise the programs I want to run and I'm
> still trying to find a compelling reason to stay with Uncle Bill & the Boys
> (& Girls). The i-Life Platform and Garage Band Suite are exactly what I am
> looking for and in it's simplest configuration.
>
> À bientôt,
>
> rooster
>
>

[Hugh Candlin]

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install. Kind
> of tough for those not always connected.

Why?

Running a browser has absolutely nothing
to do with being connected to the Internet.

A browser is not and never has been
an Internet necessity.

A browser is a tool used for browsing,
be it the World Wide Web tool or a local hard drive.

The Internet was around decades before the browser.

[mae]

I thought that too at first, but that is because I have my settings to
disconnect when I close the browser. I would just have to say stay connected
when I get the autodisconnect But I won't install their Java. And they had
no good support - last time I looked.
--
mae

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
| Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install. Kind
| of tough for those not always connected.
|
| --
|
| Brian A.
|
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "glee" > wrote in message
| ...
| > What part don't you understand?
| >
| > ...glen
| >
| > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| > ...
| >> "glee" > wrote in message
| >> ...
| >> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
| >> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
| >>
| >> What's up with these instructions?
| >> From the link:
| >>
| >> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
| >> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation
| >> process.
| >>
| >> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
| >> installation.
| >>
| >> --
| >>
| >> Brian A.
| >>
| >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
| >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
|

[Brian A.]

Ok, that's obviously something I'm not familiar with. Don't know if it
makes a difference but I've never had dial-up so DUN was never needed. My
beginning experiences with the net on my own machine was with cable.

As they say, you live and learn.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Not at all. I am connected right now with dial-up. I can close my
> browser and
> newsreader and still be connected through DUN. So, where's the problem?
> The only
> time this would be a problem is if you use <shudder> AOL....but that's not
> really an
> ISP, is it?
>
> ...glen
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
>> Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install.
>> Kind
>> of tough for those not always connected.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A.
>>
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "glee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > What part don't you understand?
>> >
>> > ...glen
>> >
>> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> "glee" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
>> >> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
>> >>
>> >> What's up with these instructions?
>> >> From the link:
>> >>
>> >> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
>> >> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation
>> >> process.
>> >>
>> >> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Brian A.
>> >>
>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

[glee]

....and Sun's updating methods are horrendous. I have gotten so fed up with them
that I have reverted for now back to the MS JVM.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"mae" > wrote in message
...
> I thought that too at first, but that is because I have my settings to
> disconnect when I close the browser. I would just have to say stay connected
> when I get the autodisconnect But I won't install their Java. And they had
> no good support - last time I looked.
> --
> mae
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
> | Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to install. Kind
> | of tough for those not always connected.
> |
> | --
> |
> | Brian A.
> |
> | Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> |
> |
> | "glee" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > What part don't you understand?
> | >
> | > ...glen
> | >
> | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> | > ...
> | >> "glee" > wrote in message
> | >> ...
> | >> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> | >> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
> | >>
> | >> What's up with these instructions?
> | >> From the link:
> | >>
> | >> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
> | >> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the installation
> | >> process.
> | >>
> | >> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet during the
> | >> installation.
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >>
> | >> Brian A.
> | >>
> | >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> |
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

I *had* to install Sun for some reason or another. Thought I'd leave it
in place. That lasted about two days. Managed to get it to shut up and
stay in its hole until explicitly told to come out..

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> ...and Sun's updating methods are horrendous. I have gotten so fed up
with them
> that I have reverted for now back to the MS JVM.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "mae" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I thought that too at first, but that is because I have my settings
to
> > disconnect when I close the browser. I would just have to say stay
connected
> > when I get the autodisconnect But I won't install their Java. And
they had
> > no good support - last time I looked.
> > --
> > mae
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > ...
> > | Closing the browser yet staying connected to the internet to
install. Kind
> > | of tough for those not always connected.
> > |
> > | --
> > |
> > | Brian A.
> > |
> > | Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > | http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > |
> > |
> > | "glee" > wrote in message
> > | ...
> > | > What part don't you understand?
> > | >
> > | > ...glen
> > | >
> > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > | > ...
> > | >> "glee" > wrote in message
> > | >> ...
> > | >> > Is advertisement blocking software preventing the download?:
> > | >> > http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ad_block.xml
> > | >>
> > | >> What's up with these instructions?
> > | >> From the link:
> > | >>
> > | >> 9. Close all applications including the browser.
> > | >> 10. Double-click on the saved file icon to start the
installation
> > | >> process.
> > | >>
> > | >> Note: Your computer must remain connected to the Internet
during the
> > | >> installation.
> > | >>
> > | >> --
> > | >>
> > | >> Brian A.
> > | >>
> > | >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > | >> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >
> > |
> >
>

[rooster]

Glen;
Not so fast. The G5 ships with O/E & I/E. If I reconfigure my headers,
interpose a couple of mordent relays and secund a China.net server in, say,
Mongolia, y'all might hardly know its me. That is, if it weren't for the
cosmic improbability that there could be a Sino-pest as inept as me existing
in the same dimension.

BTW ... in China this is the "Year of the Rooster"; kind'a gives ya the
creeps, don't it?

gung hai fat choi,

rooster

[PCR]

Once you get to China, stand on your head, or you'll be up-side-down!
DON'T turn into a little-ender, rooster, JUST like Blanton did!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rooster" > wrote in message
...
| Glen;
| Not so fast. The G5 ships with O/E & I/E. If I reconfigure my
headers,
| interpose a couple of mordent relays and secund a China.net server
in, say,
| Mongolia, y'all might hardly know its me. That is, if it weren't for
the
| cosmic improbability that there could be a Sino-pest as inept as me
existing
| in the same dimension.
|
| BTW ... in China this is the "Year of the Rooster"; kind'a gives ya
the
| creeps, don't it?
|
| gung hai fat choi,
|
| rooster
|
|