missing drivers mobo "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" - pls he [Archive]

Ian

February 18th 05, 06:51 AM

Many thanks for your response. Info obtained as follows:-

mobo ID : 07/20/1999-i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00
mobo name: PCPartner BSMS3-C872

FSB Properties
Bus type : Intel GTL+
bus width : 64 bit
Real clock : 67 Mhz
Effective clock : 67 Mhz
Bandwidth : 533 MB/s

Chipset Bus properties Bus type -Intel Hub Interface
Bus width- 8-bit

mobo Manufacturer-PC Partner LTD
prod info: http://www.pcpartner.com/products/motherboards.htm
Bios download: http:/www.pcpartner.com/support/bios.htm

BIOS PROPERTIES
BIOS type: Award Modular
Award BIOS Type: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS message : BIOS-N-4M (90720)
System BIOS date: 07/20/99
video BIOS date: 06/23/19

BIOS upgrade: http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?referredid=40

Hope this is of some help in solving my problem and look forward for your
continued support,TIA

"glee" wrote:

> Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look further in
> its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown, the model.
> This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated Digital
> Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for the
> Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that motherboard, and
> may require a board-specific driver installation.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Many thanks for your response.
> > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > -
> > MPU-401 Compitable
> > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it has
> > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > 4/ Video - a whole list
> >
> > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> >
> > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > Compatible
> >
> > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> >
> > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Brian A.
> > >
> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > >
> > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver installed)
> > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > (90720)",
> > > >
> > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810 L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631 BW\VLA.
> > > >
> > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > >
> > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also 2
> > > > other folders namely
> > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > specifiically
> > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices" .......................
> > > > many thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Ian

February 19th 05, 12:53 AM

glee,

can you please help me out here, TIA

"glee" wrote:

> Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look further in
> its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown, the model.
> This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated Digital
> Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for the
> Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that motherboard, and
> may require a board-specific driver installation.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Many thanks for your response.
> > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > -
> > MPU-401 Compitable
> > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it has
> > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > 4/ Video - a whole list
> >
> > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> >
> > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > Compatible
> >
> > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> >
> > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Brian A.
> > >
> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > >
> > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver installed)
> > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > (90720)",
> > > >
> > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810 L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631 BW\VLA.
> > > >
> > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > >
> > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also 2
> > > > other folders namely
> > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > specifiically
> > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices" .......................
> > > > many thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee

February 19th 05, 01:51 AM

A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you here
was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been at work
for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten dinner,
done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer for the
first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.

Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
motherboard manufacturer?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> glee,
>
> can you please help me out here, TIA
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
further in
> > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown, the
model.
> > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
Digital
> > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for the
> > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that motherboard,
and
> > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > -
> > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it has
> > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > >
> > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > >
> > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > Compatible
> > >
> > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > >
> > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Brian A.
> > > >
> > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > >
> > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver installed)
> > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > (90720)",
> > > > >
> > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810 L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631 BW\VLA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also 2
> > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > specifiically
> > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices" .......................
> > > > > many thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Brian A.

February 19th 05, 02:06 AM

For starters you have an Intel 810 processor. If you are not using any
expansion cards and your sound and video are integrated you can get the
drivers from Intel here:
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21

or use this link if the other breaks.
http://tinyurl.com/63zut

From what I find the PCPartners mobo with the i810 uses AC '97 audio.
Make sure that your devices are integrated and Intel before
downloading/installing the drivers. You can download a chipset identifier
from Intel to double check. If in any doubt or you have any questions,
please ask and we will help out with what we can.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Many thanks for your response. Info obtained as follows:-
>
> mobo ID : 07/20/1999-i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00
> mobo name: PCPartner BSMS3-C872
>
> FSB Properties
> Bus type : Intel GTL+
> bus width : 64 bit
> Real clock : 67 Mhz
> Effective clock : 67 Mhz
> Bandwidth : 533 MB/s
>
> Chipset Bus properties Bus type -Intel Hub Interface
> Bus width- 8-bit
>
> mobo Manufacturer-PC Partner LTD
> prod info: http://www.pcpartner.com/products/motherboards.htm
> Bios download: http:/www.pcpartner.com/support/bios.htm
>
> BIOS PROPERTIES
> BIOS type: Award Modular
> Award BIOS Type: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
> Award BIOS message : BIOS-N-4M (90720)
> System BIOS date: 07/20/99
> video BIOS date: 06/23/19
>
> BIOS upgrade: http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?referredid=40
>
> Hope this is of some help in solving my problem and look forward for your
> continued support,TIA
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
>> further in
>> its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown,
>> the model.
>> This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
>> Integrated Digital
>> Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any,
>> for the
>> Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
>> motherboard, and
>> may require a board-specific driver installation.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>> "Ian" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Many thanks for your response.
>> > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
>>
>> > -
>> > MPU-401 Compitable
>> > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
>> > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it
>> > has
>> > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
>> > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
>> > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
>> > 4/ Video - a whole list
>> >
>> > When I look under Physical Devices:
>> > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
>> > Function 5
>> > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
>> >
>> > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
>> > Compatible
>> >
>> > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
>> > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
>> > b)MPU-401 Compatible
>> >
>> > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one
>> > to
>> > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
>> > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada
>> > > yada,
>> > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
>> > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Brian A.
>> > >
>> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
>> > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
>> > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
>> > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
>> > > >
>> > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
>> > > > installed)
>> > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
>> > > > "BIOS-N-4M
>> > > > (90720)",
>> > > >
>> > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
>> > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
>> > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
>> > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
>> > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
>> > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
>> > > > BW\VLA.
>> > > >
>> > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
>> > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
>> > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
>> > > >
>> > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are
>> > > > also 2
>> > > > other folders namely
>> > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
>> > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
>> > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
>> > > > specifiically
>> > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
>> > > > .......................
>> > > > many thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>

glee

February 19th 05, 03:12 AM

Ian,
This appears to be the manual for your motherboard:
http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/man/intel/c87201.pdf
Please look through it and let us know if it matches what you have. Also, check if
you have any PCI cards besides the modem installed in any slots on the board. If
not, it would appear that you have the AC97 integrated audio, and integrated video.
As you can see from the info on page 9 of the manual, there was a CD that came with
the board, which contained the needed drivers for sound, video, and USB. I assume
that you do not have the original CD with the drivers on it?

There are drivers listed here:
http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X
that appear to be for the family of motherboards yours is in. It is likely that you
would use the Intel Chipsets Driver: Intel INF Installation Utility listed there,
following the guidelines shown on page 9 of the manual mentioned above.
I don't know which, if any, of the AC97 drivers listed there would be the correct
one for your board.....perhaps Brian has an idea on that.

I am going to go check his links now......
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Many thanks for your response. Info obtained as follows:-
>
> mobo ID : 07/20/1999-i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00
> mobo name: PCPartner BSMS3-C872
>
> FSB Properties
> Bus type : Intel GTL+
> bus width : 64 bit
> Real clock : 67 Mhz
> Effective clock : 67 Mhz
> Bandwidth : 533 MB/s
>
> Chipset Bus properties Bus type -Intel Hub Interface
> Bus width- 8-bit
>
> mobo Manufacturer-PC Partner LTD
> prod info: http://www.pcpartner.com/products/motherboards.htm
> Bios download: http:/www.pcpartner.com/support/bios.htm
>
> BIOS PROPERTIES
> BIOS type: Award Modular
> Award BIOS Type: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
> Award BIOS message : BIOS-N-4M (90720)
> System BIOS date: 07/20/99
> video BIOS date: 06/23/19
>
> BIOS upgrade: http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?referredid=40
>
> Hope this is of some help in solving my problem and look forward for your
> continued support,TIA
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
further in
> > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown, the
model.
> > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
Digital
> > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for the
> > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that motherboard,
and
> > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > -
> > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it has
> > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > >
> > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > >
> > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > Compatible
> > >
> > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > >
> > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Brian A.
> > > >
> > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > >
> > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver installed)
> > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > (90720)",
> > > > >
> > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810 L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631 BW\VLA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also 2
> > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > specifiically
> > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices" .......................
> > > > > many thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 19th 05, 05:29 AM

Glen and Brian,
I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
(in the PCI slot)
I have downloaded from
http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.

Earlier I downloaded from
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
-the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.

In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus

I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
to monitor adaptor)

When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
conflict and there is no word " IRQ"

The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
22 from

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
(guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)

Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.

"glee" wrote:

> A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you here
> was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been at work
> for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten dinner,
> done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer for the
> first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
>
> Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> motherboard manufacturer?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > glee,
> >
> > can you please help me out here, TIA
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
> further in
> > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown, the
> model.
> > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
> Digital
> > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for the
> > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that motherboard,
> and
> > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > -
> > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it has
> > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > >
> > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > >
> > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > Compatible
> > > >
> > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > >
> > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian A.
> > > > >
> > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver installed)
> > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810 L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631 BW\VLA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also 2
> > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices" .......................
> > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee

February 19th 05, 12:34 PM

Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card, which
will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you install
the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1

Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do the
USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver: Intel
INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Glen and Brian,
> I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> (in the PCI slot)
> I have downloaded from
> http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
>
> Earlier I downloaded from
>
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
>
> In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
>
> I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> to monitor adaptor)
>
> When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
>
> The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> 22 from
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
>
> Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
here
> > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been at
work
> > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
dinner,
> > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer for
the
> > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> >
> > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > motherboard manufacturer?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > glee,
> > >
> > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
> > further in
> > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown,
the
> > model.
> > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
> > Digital
> > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for
the
> > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
motherboard,
> > and
> > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > -
> > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it
has
> > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > >
> > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > >
> > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > Compatible
> > > > >
> > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > >
> > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
installed)
> > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
"BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
BW\VLA.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also
2
> > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
........................
> > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 19th 05, 07:23 PM

Yes, I have a Videocam USB2.0 which at some point while ( trying to resolve
the mobo (display+sounds issue) I try to install it. Cos, I have
install/uninstall them many times (as it does not seems to work properly, 1
minute I can see the picture and next when I reboot, I cant giving reason as
there is some files missing such as 'ksuser.dll files etc and ask to insert
98se but there is no such file found).

Yes, I have downloaded and installed the Intel chipset driver, INTEL INF
installation Utitity (Intel chipset software Installation Utility
ver.5.00.1012) ((As I typed this, I just re-run this and its ok***))

Yes, there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager.
quote " Do the USB ports work with any USB devices" - No, if I may refer to
using the videocam usb2.0
++
Now, after all the above, I have just uninstall the drivers for Videocam
USB2.0, also go to add/remove to remove the item and make sure that there is
no such item in the DM. I have also remove under 'other device'- microsoft
TV/Video Connection

So, what I have now in the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI
Universal Serial Bus.

There is also the Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device
Manager

Just try to re-re-run (different from ***) the Intel Chipset softweare
Installation Utility - and it says "could not obtain the data for the
SourcePath value in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Set up
key.Registry is corrupt.
Hell, is this just because I have delete the "Microsoft TV/Video Connection"

OH ...What a mess I am in now......
(The installation of the Videocam USB2.0 is very simple, insert cd, run
driver, then plug in the usb BUT what the mess) What shall I
do?.......................TIA, TIA

, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
> slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card, which
> will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you install
> the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
> drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
>
> Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do the
> USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver: Intel
> INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Glen and Brian,
> > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> > (in the PCI slot)
> > I have downloaded from
> > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> >
> > Earlier I downloaded from
> >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> >
> > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> >
> > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > to monitor adaptor)
> >
> > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> >
> > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> > 22 from
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
> >
> > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
> here
> > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been at
> work
> > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
> dinner,
> > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer for
> the
> > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > >
> > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > glee,
> > > >
> > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
> > > further in
> > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown,
> the
> > > model.
> > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
> > > Digital
> > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for
> the
> > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> motherboard,
> > > and
> > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it
> has
> > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> installed)
> > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
> BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also
> 2
> > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> ........................
> > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Ian

February 19th 05, 07:37 PM

If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
install the videoUSB2.0).

QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
normal.

fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA

"glee" wrote:

> Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
> slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card, which
> will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you install
> the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
> drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
>
> Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do the
> USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver: Intel
> INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Glen and Brian,
> > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> > (in the PCI slot)
> > I have downloaded from
> > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> >
> > Earlier I downloaded from
> >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> >
> > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> >
> > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > to monitor adaptor)
> >
> > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> >
> > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> > 22 from
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
> >
> > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
> here
> > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been at
> work
> > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
> dinner,
> > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer for
> the
> > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > >
> > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > glee,
> > > >
> > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please look
> > > further in
> > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if shown,
> the
> > > model.
> > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax Integrated
> > > Digital
> > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any, for
> the
> > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> motherboard,
> > > and
> > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia it
> has
> > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5
> > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich one to
> > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada yada,
> > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> installed)
> > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
> BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Download from http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are also
> 2
> > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> ........................
> > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee

February 19th 05, 09:04 PM

You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its own
drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact a
USB 2.0 card?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> install the videoUSB2.0).
>
> QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> normal.
>
> fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
>
>
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
> > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
which
> > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
install
> > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
> > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> >
> > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do
the
> > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver:
Intel
> > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Glen and Brian,
> > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > I have downloaded from
> > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > >
> > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > >
> >
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > >
> > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > >
> > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > to monitor adaptor)
> > >
> > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > >
> > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> > > 22 from
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
> > >
> > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
> > here
> > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been
at
> > work
> > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
> > dinner,
> > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer
for
> > the
> > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > >
> > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > glee,
> > > > >
> > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
look
> > > > further in
> > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
shown,
> > the
> > > > model.
> > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
Integrated
> > > > Digital
> > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any,
for
> > the
> > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > motherboard,
> > > > and
> > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > >
-
> > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia
it
> > has
> > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
Function 5
> > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich
one to
> > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada
yada,
> > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > installed)
> > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
> > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Download from
http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are
also
> > 2
> > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > ........................
> > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

glee

February 19th 05, 09:13 PM

Do you have any USB ports besides the ones on the USB card, or are the ports on the
USB card the only USB ports on the computer?
Is the USB PCI card a USB 2.0 card, and do you have the disc it came with, to
install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE?

The rest of your post is very difficult to follow, and I don't know why you are
removing and/or uninstalling items will-nilly....it is confusing the issue. Since
you have already started in that direction, make sure the video cam software is
uninstalled in Control Panel> Add\Remove Programs> Install/Uninstall tab.....not
Device Manager. After uninstalling the software, reboot, and leave the camera
software uninstalled until you have finished with the current question. You can
deal with making the camera work when the current issues are resolved.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, I have a Videocam USB2.0 which at some point while ( trying to resolve
> the mobo (display+sounds issue) I try to install it. Cos, I have
> install/uninstall them many times (as it does not seems to work properly, 1
> minute I can see the picture and next when I reboot, I cant giving reason as
> there is some files missing such as 'ksuser.dll files etc and ask to insert
> 98se but there is no such file found).
>
> Yes, I have downloaded and installed the Intel chipset driver, INTEL INF
> installation Utitity (Intel chipset software Installation Utility
> ver.5.00.1012) ((As I typed this, I just re-run this and its ok***))
>
> Yes, there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager.
> quote " Do the USB ports work with any USB devices" - No, if I may refer to
> using the videocam usb2.0
> ++
> Now, after all the above, I have just uninstall the drivers for Videocam
> USB2.0, also go to add/remove to remove the item and make sure that there is
> no such item in the DM. I have also remove under 'other device'- microsoft
> TV/Video Connection
>
> So, what I have now in the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI
> Universal Serial Bus.
>
> There is also the Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device
> Manager
>
> Just try to re-re-run (different from ***) the Intel Chipset softweare
> Installation Utility - and it says "could not obtain the data for the
> SourcePath value in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Set up
> key.Registry is corrupt.
> Hell, is this just because I have delete the "Microsoft TV/Video Connection"
>
> OH ...What a mess I am in now......
> (The installation of the Videocam USB2.0 is very simple, insert cd, run
> driver, then plug in the usb BUT what the mess) What shall I
> do?.......................TIA, TIA
>
>
>
> , with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
> > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
which
> > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
install
> > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
> > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> >
> > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do
the
> > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver:
Intel
> > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Glen and Brian,
> > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > I have downloaded from
> > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > >
> > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > >
> >
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > >
> > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > >
> > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > to monitor adaptor)
> > >
> > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > >
> > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> > > 22 from
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
> > >
> > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
> > here
> > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been
at
> > work
> > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
> > dinner,
> > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer
for
> > the
> > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > >
> > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > glee,
> > > > >
> > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
look
> > > > further in
> > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
shown,
> > the
> > > > model.
> > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
Integrated
> > > > Digital
> > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any,
for
> > the
> > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > motherboard,
> > > > and
> > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > >
-
> > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia
it
> > has
> > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
Function 5
> > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich
one to
> > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada
yada,
> > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > installed)
> > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
> > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Download from
http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are
also
> > 2
> > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > ........................
> > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 19th 05, 11:09 PM

Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
(using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.

"glee" wrote:

> You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
> come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its own
> drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact a
> USB 2.0 card?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> > install the videoUSB2.0).
> >
> > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> > normal.
> >
> > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a PCI
> > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
> which
> > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
> install
> > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have native
> > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > >
> > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager? Do
> the
> > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets Driver:
> Intel
> > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside the
> > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb ports
> > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > >
> > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > >
> > >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > >
> > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > > >
> > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms nat kb
> > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > >
> > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > >
> > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and item
> > > > 22 from
> > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP 7.1)
> > > >
> > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to you
> > > here
> > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep; been
> at
> > > work
> > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work; gotten
> > > dinner,
> > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a computer
> for
> > > the
> > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re: your
> > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > glee,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
> look
> > > > > further in
> > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
> shown,
> > > the
> > > > > model.
> > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> Integrated
> > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if any,
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > > motherboard,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport Joystick
> > > > > > >
> -
> > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under multimedia
> it
> > > has
> > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
> Function 5
> > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006 MPU-401
> > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know ehich
> one to
> > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide me.TIA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU , yada
> yada,
> > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS PC873631
> > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Download from
> http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and game
> > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401 Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there are
> also
> > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee

February 20th 05, 06:13 AM

OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no others?
IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB ports
built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports are
working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually a
USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer. The
"Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.

Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it works
with USB 1.1?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
> > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its
own
> > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact
a
> > USB 2.0 card?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > >
> > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> > > normal.
> > >
> > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a
PCI
> > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
> > which
> > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
> > install
> > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
native
> > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > >
> > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager?
Do
> > the
> > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
Driver:
> > Intel
> > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside
the
> > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
ports
> > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms
nat kb
> > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > >
> > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > >
> > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and
item
> > > > > 22 from
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP
7.1)
> > > > >
> > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to
you
> > > > here
> > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep;
been
> > at
> > > > work
> > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
gotten
> > > > dinner,
> > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
computer
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re:
your
> > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
> > look
> > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
> > shown,
> > > > the
> > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > Integrated
> > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if
any,
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
Joystick
> > > > > > > >
> > -
> > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
multimedia
> > it
> > > > has
> > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
> > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
ehich
> > one to
> > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
me.TIA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU ,
yada
> > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
PC873631
> > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and
game
> > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there
are
> > also
> > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 20th 05, 07:25 AM

Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc.
On the cd its says "VideoCam Slim USB2.0 v1.0" - content: Utility Driver for
win xp/me/2000/98se, usual manual etc (www.geniusnet.com.tw).
IOW -stands for? really thankful for your assistance and time.

"glee" wrote:

> OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no others?
> IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB ports
> built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports are
> working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually a
> USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer. The
> "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
>
> Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it works
> with USB 1.1?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
> > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its
> own
> > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact
> a
> > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > >
> > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> > > > normal.
> > > >
> > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a
> PCI
> > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
> > > which
> > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
> > > install
> > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
> native
> > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager?
> Do
> > > the
> > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
> Driver:
> > > Intel
> > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside
> the
> > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
> ports
> > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms
> nat kb
> > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and
> item
> > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP
> 7.1)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to
> you
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep;
> been
> > > at
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
> gotten
> > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
> computer
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re:
> your
> > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
> > > look
> > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
> > > shown,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > > Integrated
> > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if
> any,
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
> Joystick
> > > > > > > > >
> > > -
> > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> multimedia
> > > it
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
> > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
> MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
> ehich
> > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
> me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU ,
> yada
> > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
> PC873631
> > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and
> game
> > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there
> are
> > > also
> > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Hugh Candlin

February 20th 05, 08:00 AM

"Ian" > wrote in message
...

> IOW stands for?.

In Other Words.

Ian

February 20th 05, 02:15 PM

Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB CARD
and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise I
suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
help....

"glee" wrote:

> OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no others?
> IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB ports
> built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports are
> working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually a
> USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer. The
> "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
>
> Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it works
> with USB 1.1?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
> > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its
> own
> > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact
> a
> > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > >
> > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> > > > normal.
> > > >
> > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a
> PCI
> > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
> > > which
> > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
> > > install
> > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
> native
> > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager?
> Do
> > > the
> > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
> Driver:
> > > Intel
> > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside
> the
> > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
> ports
> > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms
> nat kb
> > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and
> item
> > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP
> 7.1)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to
> you
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep;
> been
> > > at
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
> gotten
> > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
> computer
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re:
> your
> > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
> > > look
> > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
> > > shown,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > > Integrated
> > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if
> any,
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
> Joystick
> > > > > > > > >
> > > -
> > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> multimedia
> > > it
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
> > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
> MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
> ehich
> > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
> me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU ,
> yada
> > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
> PC873631
> > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and
> game
> > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there
> are
> > > also
> > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Ian

February 20th 05, 03:43 PM

Would like to know if the PCI USB card (1.1) is already physically fixed onto
the pc and we do a clean installation of 98SE, would the drivers be
automatically installed? Its seems that it was not installed. The reason I
say this is because after loading in the videocam driver, I plug in the
VideoCAM into the usb port and it say certain files are not found and ask for
98se to be inserted into the rom drive. I inserted the 98se but it still says
it cannot find the driver (presume its the pci usb card driver).

I have just physically took out the pci usb card, reboot and shut down and
re-install the pci card. Its found the new hardware an ask for the driver,
cos, I insert the w98se cd but it says it cannot find the driver. Where are
the drivers for the pci usb card located in 98se?... TIA

"Ian" wrote:

> Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB CARD
> and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
> Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
> In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
> into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise I
> suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
> help....
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no others?
> > IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB ports
> > built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports are
> > working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually a
> > USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer. The
> > "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
> >
> > Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it works
> > with USB 1.1?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> > > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> > > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> > > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should have
> > > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load its
> > own
> > > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in fact
> > a
> > > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying to
> > > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > > >
> > > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"---- dont
> > > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as per
> > > > > normal.
> > > > >
> > > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my desktop
> > > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card in a
> > PCI
> > > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0 card,
> > > > which
> > > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless you
> > > > install
> > > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
> > native
> > > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device Manager?
> > Do
> > > > the
> > > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
> > Driver:
> > > > Intel
> > > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance. Inside
> > the
> > > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
> > ports
> > > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item AD1881
> > > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial Bus
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or ms
> > nat kb
> > > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using (similar
> > > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is no
> > > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since the
> > > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1 and
> > item
> > > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download MP
> > 7.1)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is there
> > > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last reply to
> > you
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours sleep;
> > been
> > > > at
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
> > gotten
> > > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
> > computer
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your info.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest, re:
> > your
> > > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the motherboard....please
> > > > look
> > > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and if
> > > > shown,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > > > Integrated
> > > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers if
> > any,
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on that
> > > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
> > Joystick
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> > multimedia
> > > > it
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device 31,
> > > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
> > MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
> > ehich
> > > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
> > me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU ,
> > yada
> > > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k modem -driver
> > > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
> > > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
> > PC873631
> > > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video and
> > game
> > > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> > Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic, there
> > are
> > > > also
> > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

glee

February 20th 05, 04:31 PM

No, the Specifications on their website for the VideoCam Slim state:
Interface: USB 2.0 & 1.1
so it should work on either type of port.

Did you not get a driver disc with the USB card? Does the documentation with the
card state that it is a USB 2.0 card, or just USB 1.1?

Look on the surface of the USB card itself...there is a square black chip with a
name and alphanumeric series of digits....what does it say?
Example: ALI M5273
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB CARD
> and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
> Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
> In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
> into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise I
> suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
> help....
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no
others?
> > IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB
ports
> > built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports
are
> > working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually
a
> > USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer.
The
> > "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
> >
> > Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it
works
> > with USB 1.1?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> > > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> > > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> > > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should
have
> > > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load
its
> > own
> > > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in
fact
> > a
> > > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying
to
> > > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > > >
> > > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"----
dont
> > > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as
per
> > > > > normal.
> > > > >
> > > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my
desktop
> > > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card
in a
> > PCI
> > > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0
card,
> > > > which
> > > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless
you
> > > > install
> > > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
> > native
> > > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device
Manager?
> > Do
> > > > the
> > > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
> > Driver:
> > > > Intel
> > > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance.
Inside
> > the
> > > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
> > ports
> > > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item
AD1881
> > > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial
Bus
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or
ms
> > nat kb
> > > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using
(similar
> > > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is
no
> > > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since
the
> > > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1
and
> > item
> > > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download
MP
> > 7.1)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is
there
> > > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last
reply to
> > you
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours
sleep;
> > been
> > > > at
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
> > gotten
> > > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
> > computer
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your
info.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest,
re:
> > your
> > > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the
motherboard....please
> > > > look
> > > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and
if
> > > > shown,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > > > Integrated
> > > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers
if
> > any,
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on
that
> > > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
> > Joystick
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> > multimedia
> > > > it
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401
Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device
31,
> > > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
> > MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
> > ehich
> > > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
> > me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU
,
> > yada
> > > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k
modem -driver
> > > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00"
and
> > > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
> > PC873631
> > > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video
and
> > game
> > > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> > Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic,
there
> > are
> > > > also
> > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain
and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Brian A.

February 20th 05, 06:41 PM

According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper manual
it states:
<quote>
On-Board I/O

Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
(Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.

One ECP/EPP parallel port .

Two 16550A UART serial ports.

One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or 2.88MB.

Two USB ports.

PS/2 mouse port.

PS/2 keyboard port.

Infrared (IrDA) support.

</quote>

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Brian A.

February 20th 05, 06:55 PM

When it asks for the 98 CD and you get the "can't find":

Note the name of the file it can't find
Click Start > Run > Find > Folders/files

In the named box type: *.cab
In the containing text box type: the name of the driver without the
extension
In lookin browse to the Win98 Folder and select it
Click Find

Although this will get you to the point of having the 1.1 drivers
installed, you will have to get the 2.0 drivers from the manufacturer. Even
though you mention that you have a USB PCI card, the manual provided by Glen
states that you have onboard USB. Aside from getting the drivers from the
manufacturer you may have to update the BIOPS as well to use the onboard USB
ports in order to get 2.0 functionality.
It may be that the USB ports are disabled in the BIOS and if you wish to
use them they would have to be enabled.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Would like to know if the PCI USB card (1.1) is already physically fixed
> onto
> the pc and we do a clean installation of 98SE, would the drivers be
> automatically installed? Its seems that it was not installed. The reason I
> say this is because after loading in the videocam driver, I plug in the
> VideoCAM into the usb port and it say certain files are not found and ask
> for
> 98se to be inserted into the rom drive. I inserted the 98se but it still
> says
> it cannot find the driver (presume its the pci usb card driver).
>
> I have just physically took out the pci usb card, reboot and shut down and
> re-install the pci card. Its found the new hardware an ask for the driver,
> cos, I insert the w98se cd but it says it cannot find the driver. Where
> are
> the drivers for the pci usb card located in 98se?... TIA
>
> "Ian" wrote:
>
>> Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB
>> CARD
>> and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
>> Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
>> In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
>> into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise
>> I
>> suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
>> help....
>>
>> "glee" wrote:
>>
>> > OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there
>> > are no others?
>> > IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were
>> > no USB ports
>> > built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the
>> > ports are
>> > working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is
>> > actually a
>> > USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset
>> > manufacturer. The
>> > "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
>> >
>> > Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state
>> > that it works
>> > with USB 1.1?
>> > --
>> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the
>> > > pci slot.
>> > > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl
>> > > external modem
>> > > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you
>> > > and idea?
>> > > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
>> > >
>> > > "glee" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then
>> > > > it should have
>> > > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE
>> > > > will load its
>> > own
>> > > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the
>> > > > card in fact
>> > a
>> > > > USB 2.0 card?
>> > > > --
>> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > > > ...
>> > > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I
>> > > > > was trying to
>> > > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that
>> > > > > USB card.
>> > > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB
>> > > > > 1.1"---- dont
>> > > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the
>> > > > > 98SE cd as per
>> > > > > normal.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on
>> > > > > my desktop
>> > > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "glee" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a
>> > > > > > USB card in a
>> > PCI
>> > > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a
>> > > > > > USB 2.0 card,
>> > > > which
>> > > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device,
>> > > > > > unless you
>> > > > install
>> > > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does
>> > > > > > not have
>> > native
>> > > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your
>> > > > > > Device Manager?
>> > Do
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel
>> > > > > > Chipsets
>> > Driver:
>> > > > Intel
>> > > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > > > > > ...
>> > > > > > > Glen and Brian,
>> > > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your
>> > > > > > > guidance. Inside
>> > the
>> > > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and
>> > > > > > > the usb
>> > ports
>> > > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
>> > > > > > > I have downloaded from
>> > > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X
>> > > > > > > item AD1881
>> > > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
>> > > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks
>> > > > > > > good.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal
>> > > > > > > Serial Bus
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102
>> > > > > > > key or ms
>> > nat kb
>> > > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
>> > > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am
>> > > > > > > using (similar
>> > > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says
>> > > > > > > there is no
>> > > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se
>> > > > > > > and since the
>> > > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media
>> > > > > > > player 7.1 and
>> > item
>> > > > > > > 22 from
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
>> > > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to
>> > > > > > > download MP
>> > 7.1)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus'
>> > > > > > > first. Is there
>> > > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your
>> > > > > > > help.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My
>> > > > > > > > last reply to
>> > you
>> > > > > > here
>> > > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5
>> > > > > > > > hours sleep;
>> > been
>> > > > at
>> > > > > > work
>> > > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy
>> > > > > > > > physical work;
>> > gotten
>> > > > > > dinner,
>> > > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in
>> > > > > > > > front of a
>> > computer
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to
>> > > > > > > > research your info.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from
>> > > > > > > > Everest, re:
>> > your
>> > > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > ...
>> > > > > > > > > glee,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the
>> > > > > > > > > > motherboard....please
>> > > > look
>> > > > > > > > further in
>> > > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard
>> > > > > > > > > > manufacturer and if
>> > > > shown,
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > model.
>> > > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the
>> > > > > > > > > > SoundMax
>> > > > Integrated
>> > > > > > > > Digital
>> > > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating
>> > > > > > > > > > the drivers if
>> > any,
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB
>> > > > > > > > > > header on that
>> > > > > > motherboard,
>> > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
>> > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > > ...
>> > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
>> > > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers -
>> > > > > > > > > > > Gamesport
>> > Joystick
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > -
>> > > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
>> > > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing
>> > > > > > > > > > > there.
>> > > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following:
>> > > > > > > > > > > under
>> > multimedia
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > has
>> > > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
>> > > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401
>> > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
>> > > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
>> > > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
>> > > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0,
>> > > > > > > > > > > Device 31,
>> > > > Function 5
>> > > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo
>> > > > > > > > > > > PnP8006
>> > MPU-401
>> > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
>> > > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
>> > > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just
>> > > > > > > > > > > know know
>> > ehich
>> > > > one to
>> > > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you
>> > > > > > > > > > > can guide
>> > me.TIA
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > mobo.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > BIOS, CPU ,
>> > yada
>> > > > yada,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > message
>> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > with me.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > the DM,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Device
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > modem -driver
>> > > > > > installed)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00" and
>> > > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > FW82801AA,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
>> > > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > MEGATRENDS
>> > PC873631
>> > > > > > BW\VLA.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
>> > > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Sound video and
>> > game
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Joystick,MPU-401
>> > Compatible.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > graphic, there
>> > are
>> > > > also
>> > > > > > 2
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > explain and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
>> > > > > > ........................
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >

glee

February 20th 05, 10:31 PM

Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
"Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of the
computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete info.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper manual
> it states:
> <quote>
> On-Board I/O
>
> Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
>
> One ECP/EPP parallel port .
>
> Two 16550A UART serial ports.
>
> One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or 2.88MB.
>
> Two USB ports.
>
> PS/2 mouse port.
>
> PS/2 keyboard port.
>
> Infrared (IrDA) support.
>
> </quote>
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A.
>
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>

Ian

February 20th 05, 11:27 PM

Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
will get lost.

PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.

There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it cannot
find the driver.)

When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the CARD
into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass and
when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as there
is no 'Other devices" or question marks?

The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.

It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start asking
for the missing file.
The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it just
could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but still
it cannot find the file.

If I click, "skid the files", it will then say another missing file and ask
the 98cd insert etc. (suppose the VideoCAM will also not function in the end)

I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD which must be
configure individually (just wonder How)

*cab-contents all are zip files and I suppose the missing file such as
iyuv_32.dll is in somewhere. Search fo 'c' or 'd' does not show anything. Do
we ahve to unzip first?

I suppose if I can find the correct path to the missing file, it could work
then... but how to................ TIA

(waiting for a response from the manufacturer to see if it work in usb 1.1,
which I think it should since as Glen also mentioned from its specification,
its interface is usb 2 & usb 1.1)

"glee" wrote:

> No, the Specifications on their website for the VideoCam Slim state:
> Interface: USB 2.0 & 1.1
> so it should work on either type of port.
>
> Did you not get a driver disc with the USB card? Does the documentation with the
> card state that it is a USB 2.0 card, or just USB 1.1?
>
> Look on the surface of the USB card itself...there is a square black chip with a
> name and alphanumeric series of digits....what does it say?
> Example: ALI M5273
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB CARD
> > and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
> > Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
> > In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
> > into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise I
> > suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
> > help....
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no
> others?
> > > IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB
> ports
> > > built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the ports
> are
> > > working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is actually
> a
> > > USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset manufacturer.
> The
> > > "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
> > >
> > > Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that it
> works
> > > with USB 1.1?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci slot.
> > > > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external modem
> > > > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and idea?
> > > > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it should
> have
> > > > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will load
> its
> > > own
> > > > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card in
> fact
> > > a
> > > > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was trying
> to
> > > > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card.
> > > > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1"----
> dont
> > > > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd as
> per
> > > > > > normal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my
> desktop
> > > > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB card
> in a
> > > PCI
> > > > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB 2.0
> card,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device, unless
> you
> > > > > install
> > > > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not have
> > > native
> > > > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device
> Manager?
> > > Do
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel Chipsets
> > > Driver:
> > > > > Intel
> > > > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance.
> Inside
> > > the
> > > > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the usb
> > > ports
> > > > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item
> AD1881
> > > > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal Serial
> Bus
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key or
> ms
> > > nat kb
> > > > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using
> (similar
> > > > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there is
> no
> > > > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and since
> the
> > > > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player 7.1
> and
> > > item
> > > > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to download
> MP
> > > 7.1)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first. Is
> there
> > > > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last
> reply to
> > > you
> > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours
> sleep;
> > > been
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical work;
> > > gotten
> > > > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of a
> > > computer
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research your
> info.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from Everest,
> re:
> > > your
> > > > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the
> motherboard....please
> > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer and
> if
> > > > > shown,
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the SoundMax
> > > > > Integrated
> > > > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the drivers
> if
> > > any,
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on
> that
> > > > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers - Gamesport
> > > Joystick
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> > > multimedia
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401
> Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0, Device
> 31,
> > > > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo PnP8006
> > > MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know know
> > > ehich
> > > > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can guide
> > > me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS, CPU
> ,
> > > yada
> > > > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k
> modem -driver
> > > > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999 i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00"
> and
> > > > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98, MEGATRENDS
> > > PC873631
> > > > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound video
> and
> > > game
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> > > Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic,
> there
> > > are
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please explain
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Ian

February 21st 05, 12:23 AM

I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides the
ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.

"glee" wrote:

> Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
> ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of the
> computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete info.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
> > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper manual
> > it states:
> > <quote>
> > On-Board I/O
> >
> > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> >
> > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> >
> > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> >
> > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or 2.88MB.
> >
> > Two USB ports.
> >
> > PS/2 mouse port.
> >
> > PS/2 keyboard port.
> >
> > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian A.
> >
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
>
>

Brian A.

February 21st 05, 01:05 AM

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
> will get lost.
>
> PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.

The latest driver I could find Is ver. 2.1.9 and I have it available for
you at:
I have scanned the file for any virus and it came up clean yet you may want
to do the same before running it on your machine.
http://home.comcast.net/~bascon58/inq_results1.htm

> There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
> when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it
> cannot
> find the driver.)
>
> When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
> tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the
> CARD
> into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass
> and
> when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
> tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as
> there
> is no 'Other devices" or question marks?

It may be possible the drivers are installed by the sounds of it.

>
> The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
> website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.
>
> It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
> exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start
> asking
> for the missing file.
> The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it
> just
> could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
> the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
> It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but
> still
> it cannot find the file.

The path needs to be D:\Win98, that's where the CAB fies are on the Windows
CD. If you still have trouble than the problem would be that you don't have
a Zip program such as WinZip. You can download the trial version (21 days
here or search for an alternative Zip program on the web:
http://www.winzip.com/downwzeval.htm

> If I click, "skid the files", it will then say another missing file and
> ask
> the 98cd insert etc. (suppose the VideoCAM will also not function in the
> end)

My guess would be no. The files it needs are probably for the video cam and
not USB.

> I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD which must be
> configure individually (just wonder How)

You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back of the
computer that look like the ones on the card?

> *cab-contents all are zip files and I suppose the missing file such as
> iyuv_32.dll is in somewhere. Search fo 'c' or 'd' does not show anything.
> Do
> we ahve to unzip first?

See above on proper path.

> I suppose if I can find the correct path to the missing file, it could
> work
> then... but how to................ TIA
>
> (waiting for a response from the manufacturer to see if it work in usb
> 1.1,
> which I think it should since as Glen also mentioned from its
> specification,
> its interface is usb 2 & usb 1.1)

Glen is correct.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

glee

February 21st 05, 01:47 AM

Replies inline, below.....***

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
> will get lost.
>
> PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.

***That's a USB 2.0 card

> There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
> when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it cannot
> find the driver.)

***There should have been a driver disc to install the USB 2.0 functionality.

> When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
> tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the CARD
> into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass and

***Exactly what do you mean by "let it pass"?

> when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
> tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as there
> is no 'Other devices" or question marks?

***The "Other Devices" listing for Serial Bus Controller that you had earlier is not
there now? What you see depends on what you mean when you say you "let it pass".
You are given the option during the dialog asking for the driver, to click Finish or
Cancel. One of those options will put the item in Other Devices, and one will not
install any driver, if you did not point it to a file , folder or disk when it asked
for one. If you chose the latter option, and that is what you mean by "let it pass"
then no, there won't be an entry in Other Devices. However, when you reboot, it
will detect it again and ask for a driver again. Is that what is happening?

What you should do is start in Safe Mode, open Device Manager there, and remove ALL
entries under Universal serial Bus Controller and under Other Devices, then click OK
and restart in normal mode. Windows will detect the USB Controller and should also
detect the second one that you were seeing in Other Devices. If this occurs, you
can click Finish, then install the Ali USB 2.0 drivers from here:
ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip

> The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
> website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.
>
> It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
> exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start asking
> for the missing file.
> The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it just
> could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
> the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
> It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but still
> it cannot find the file.

***You didn't follow Brian's instructions correctly.
Start> Find> Files or Folders: In the Named box, type *.cab, in the Containing Text
box, type the name of the file you need, such as iyuv_32.dll. In the Look In box,
click Browse, and navigate to the Win98 folder on the CD, such as D:\Win98. Click
Find Now. The .cab file containing that file will appear....in this case, on my
Win98SE CD, Driver12.cab. Double-click the .cab file to open it, and extract the
file you need to a temporary folder such as C:\Windows\Temp. Do this for all the
files it says it cannot find. Then re-run the VideoCam installer, and point to the
files in the Temp folder when it asks for them.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>
> If I click, "skid the files", it will then say another missing file and ask
> the 98cd insert etc. (suppose the VideoCAM will also not function in the end)
>
> I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD which must be
> configure individually (just wonder How)
>
> *cab-contents all are zip files and I suppose the missing file such as
> iyuv_32.dll is in somewhere. Search fo 'c' or 'd' does not show anything. Do
> we ahve to unzip first?
>
> I suppose if I can find the correct path to the missing file, it could work
> then... but how to................ TIA
>
> (waiting for a response from the manufacturer to see if it work in usb 1.1,
> which I think it should since as Glen also mentioned from its specification,
> its interface is usb 2 & usb 1.1)
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > No, the Specifications on their website for the VideoCam Slim state:
> > Interface: USB 2.0 & 1.1
> > so it should work on either type of port.
> >
> > Did you not get a driver disc with the USB card? Does the documentation with
the
> > card state that it is a USB 2.0 card, or just USB 1.1?
> >
> > Look on the surface of the USB card itself...there is a square black chip with a
> > name and alphanumeric series of digits....what does it say?
> > Example: ALI M5273
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well Glen, take my hat off, you are right. The gadget is the PCI USB CARD
> > > and the documentation says insert the W98se CD for the driver. On the
> > > Videocam, there is NO documentation that says it will work on 1.1
> > > In short, I have a USB 1.1 port but a USB 2.0 gadget. Guess have to look
> > > into the manufacturer website to see if there is a solution to it, owise I
> > > suppose I have to but another PCI USB CARD 2.0 correct? Many thanks for
> > > help....
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK....shall I assume that you only have those 2 USB ports, and there are no
> > others?
> > > > IOW, you have the PCI card installed for USB ports because there were no USB
> > ports
> > > > built into the computer? It sounds like that is the case, and that the
ports
> > are
> > > > working as USB 1.1 ports. What we don't know for sure is whether it is
actually
> > a
> > > > USB 2.0 card, missing the Win98 drivers from the card or chipset
manufacturer.
> > The
> > > > "Other device" in DM indicates that may be the case.
> > > >
> > > > Is your video camera a USB 2.0 device, or does the documentation state that
it
> > works
> > > > with USB 1.1?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Well it is a fixture that has 2 usb ports and the card sit on the pci
slot.
> > > > > Will check what this gadget is. Fyi, when I install the adsl external
modem
> > > > > (using usb port) which is an old one, its works, does this give you and
idea?
> > > > > Got to run now and will revert, thanks for your patience.
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > You have a USB card in a PCI slot. If it is a USB 2.0 card, then it
should
> > have
> > > > > > come with a disc to install USB 2.0 drivers for Win98SE. Win98SE will
load
> > its
> > > > own
> > > > > > drivers for USB 1.1, but it does not have any for USB 2.0. Is the card
in
> > fact
> > > > a
> > > > > > USB 2.0 card?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > If I may just add, Yes, I have a USB card in PCI slot (since I was
trying
> > to
> > > > > > > install the videoUSB2.0).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > QUOTE:-"unless you install the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB
card.
> > > > > > > Win98SE does not have native drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB
1.1"----
> > dont
> > > > > > > understand what you mean, when I install w98se, I just run the 98SE cd
as
> > per
> > > > > > > normal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > fYI, 'Intel Chipset driver INF Installation Utility" - this is on my
> > desktop
> > > > > > > folder so when I re-run, I mean I double click again here. TIA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, with the added info in your latest post, that you have a USB
card
> > in a
> > > > PCI
> > > > > > > > slot (at least that's the way I am reading it), you may have a USB
2.0
> > card,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > will show the USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller as an unknown device,
unless
> > you
> > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > the specific Win98SE drivers for that USB card. Win98SE does not
have
> > > > native
> > > > > > > > drivers for USB 2.0, only for USB 1.1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a Universal Serial Bus Controllers category in your Device
> > Manager?
> > > > Do
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > USB ports work with any USB devices? Have you used the Intel
Chipsets
> > > > Driver:
> > > > > > Intel
> > > > > > > > INF Installation Utility I mentioned in my other reply?
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > Glen and Brian,
> > > > > > > > > I apologise for my impatience and many thanks for your guidance.
> > Inside
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > pc, there are no expansion cards except the dial up modem and the
usb
> > > > ports
> > > > > > > > > (in the PCI slot)
> > > > > > > > > I have downloaded from
> > > > > > > > > http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/utility/81x_drv.htm#81X item
> > AD1881
> > > > > > > > > and now I can play the CD from the Accessories/Entertainment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Earlier I downloaded from
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=18&strTypes=DRV%2CARC%2CSCD%2CUTL&ProductID=178&OSFullName=Windows*+98+SE&submit=Go%21
> > > > > > > > > -the graphic driver (item 1 and 2) and the display looks good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the DM, there is still the "Other devices" - PCI Universal
Serial
> > Bus
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I wonder has it got to do with kb as under kb-its std 101/102 key
or
> > ms
> > > > nat kb
> > > > > > > > > but the kb I am using has a big round solid connector.
> > > > > > > > > Under the mouse-its " std serial mouse " which is what I am using
> > (similar
> > > > > > > > > to monitor adaptor)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I look into PCI UNI BUS properties/resources, its says there
is
> > no
> > > > > > > > > conflict and there is no word " IRQ"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The media player is the original one that comes with w98se and
since
> > the
> > > > > > > > > mobo is so old, just wondering if I should download media player
7.1
> > and
> > > > item
> > > > > > > > > 22 from
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=4
> > > > > > > > > (guess I do not have to remove the old version if I decide to
download
> > MP
> > > > 7.1)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Guess, better to sort out the mystery "PCI Universal Bus' first.
Is
> > there
> > > > > > > > > such a thing "driver forthe the USB"? Many thanks for your help.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A little patience, Ian....I have to work for a living. My last
> > reply to
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > > was at midnight my time, since which time I have gotten 5 hours
> > sleep;
> > > > been
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > for 9 and a half hours, where I do some rather heavy physical
work;
> > > > gotten
> > > > > > > > dinner,
> > > > > > > > > > done dishes, fed the dog.....and am just now sitting in front of
a
> > > > computer
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > first time since midnight last night. Now I have to research
your
> > info.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Have you researched any of the info you have gotten from
Everest,
> > re:
> > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > motherboard manufacturer?
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > glee,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > can you please help me out here, TIA
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Everest will also show you the identity of the
> > motherboard....please
> > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > further in
> > > > > > > > > > > > its output, and post back with the motherboard manufacturer
and
> > if
> > > > > > shown,
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > model.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This will allow you to locate the proper driver for the
SoundMax
> > > > > > Integrated
> > > > > > > > > > Digital
> > > > > > > > > > > > Audio on that board. Also, it will help in locating the
drivers
> > if
> > > > any,
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Universal Serial device....which is likely the USB header on
> > that
> > > > > > > > motherboard,
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > may require a board-specific driver installation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your response.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In the DM under Sound,video and game controllers -
Gamesport
> > > > Joystick
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > MPU-401 Compitable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also do the Windows Update and there is nothing there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also run Everbest v.1.51 and shows the following: under
> > > > multimedia
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ Windows Audio - midi in/out Roland MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/PCI/PnP-SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio, MPU-401
> > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3/Audio Codecs - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4/ Video - a whole list
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > When I look under Physical Devices:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -under PCI device tree its has a speaker logo Bus 0,
Device
> > 31,
> > > > > > Function 5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -under PnP device tree- it also have the speaker logo
PnP8006
> > > > MPU-401
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So, Do I look for these 2 drivers, namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a)SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > b)MPU-401 Compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and when I do a search thre are so many and I just know
know
> > > > ehich
> > > > > > one to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > pick, some of them need to pay for it. So hope you can
guide
> > > > me.TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Brian A." wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm coming up with conflicting results for the mobo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To better identify the motherboard, manufacturer, BIOS,
CPU
> > ,
> > > > yada
> > > > > > yada,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > download/install/run the free Everest home edition.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may not be the place and hope you can bear with
me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just reinstalled my 2nd pc with w98se , and in the
DM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Other devices"- PCI Multi media Audio Device,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -PCI Universal Serial Device
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pc only have Serial mouse, Serial Kb, (56k
> > modem -driver
> > > > > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the mobo, "07/20/1999
i810-NS366-6A69MV39C-00"
> > and
> > > > > > > > "BIOS-N-4M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (90720)",
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is this chip with markings "intel FW82801AA,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L9281A61,SL3MA,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings "Intel R819 FW82810
> > > > > > > > L133IC30,SL35X,Intel'98"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another chip with markings " EM96AD, LM2638M"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anotrher chip with markings " VS936AJ, NSC98,
MEGATRENDS
> > > > PC873631
> > > > > > > > BW\VLA.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download from
> > > > > > http://downloadfinder2.intel.com/sc...7.zip&ProductID
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and install the intel graphic drivers. Under "Sound
video
> > and
> > > > game
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > controllers" tree - it has Gameport Joystick,MPU-401
> > > > Compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering from the above link,beside the graphic,
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other folders namely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1/ vbios815em with sub folder "aim"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2/ vbios81x with sub folders a/ "aim" b/"aimless"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone who have experience with this mobo, please
explain
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifiically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how can I resolve the drivers for 'Other Devices"
> > > > > > > > ........................
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

glee

February 21st 05, 02:27 AM

Well, that's the manual for what was reported. Perhaps Everest identified the board
wrong....there's a first time for everything. I'd be more inclined to believe
PCPartner misidentified the board. We may never know....
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides the
> ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> > "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
> > ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> > So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of the
> > computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> > There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete info.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper manual
> > > it states:
> > > <quote>
> > > On-Board I/O
> > >
> > > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> > > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> > > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> > >
> > > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> > >
> > > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> > >
> > > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or 2.88MB.
> > >
> > > Two USB ports.
> > >
> > > PS/2 mouse port.
> > >
> > > PS/2 keyboard port.
> > >
> > > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> > >
> > > </quote>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Brian A.
> > >
> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> >
> >

Gary S. Terhune

February 21st 05, 05:09 AM

There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks that
actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't confuse
the two terms.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD which
must be
> > configure individually (just wonder How)
>
> You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back of the
> computer that look like the ones on the card?

glee

February 21st 05, 05:28 AM

On an ATX mobo?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks that
> actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't confuse
> the two terms.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD which
> must be
> > > configure individually (just wonder How)
> >
> > You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back of the
> > computer that look like the ones on the card?
>

Gary S. Terhune

February 21st 05, 06:10 AM

I've got a Gigabyte 7VTXE KT266 DDR system (from Ascent) sitting right
here that has both, actually: Two jacks soldered to the board and in the
usual place near PS/2 parallel port, etc., and a couple of jacks in a
card-slot holder that plug into the board at the opposite corner. (It's
the one that got fried and has given me such heartburn trying to
replace, at least temporarily.) I assume the usual intention is for
those to supply a front panel.

I saw a whitebox build a while back (my Dad is in the habit of searching
for *real* barebones (and *real* cheap) systems to replace old
single-duty DOS boxes for the local newspaper) that had a similar
layout, but they hadn't bothered to add the header in the usual place.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> On an ATX mobo?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks
that
> > actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't
confuse
> > the two terms.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > > > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD
which
> > must be
> > > > configure individually (just wonder How)
> > >
> > > You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back of
the
> > > computer that look like the ones on the card?
> >
>

Ian

February 21st 05, 08:59 AM

Anything on VideoCAM and CARD, I deleted in DM and reboot. Next new hware,
CARD found and just 'Next' to 'finish' the installation as they cannot locate
the driver since there is no disc for this CARD.
(CAM drivers already install in pc)

Then plug in the CAM and found new hware, VidecCAM and ask for 98se cd. and
'CLICK OK' and give a message "iyuv_32.dll in 98se cannot be found. Insert
CD and click ok. There is a dialogue box, copy this from
c:\windows\camsetup
and obviously they cannot find it, Click 'NEXT' it will go ahead and said
found new hware 'WebCAM' and ask for 98se cd.click 'NEXT' cant find
'ijuv_32.dll file on Windows, insert 98se cd ..... click 'cancel' and it will
give you foun fd new hware and 'jyuv_32.dll in Windows cannot be found. and
if you click cancel, it just give you missing file which they cannot find
file.

One thing I noticed is the CDROM d: drive it never change from 98SE label to
VideCAM label when you change the disc. Does this seems right? Dont know what
can I do next except that VideoCAM is backward compitable (confirmation by
manufacturer).............am sure someone must have experience this odd
situation help please TIA

"glee" wrote:

> Well, that's the manual for what was reported. Perhaps Everest identified the board
> wrong....there's a first time for everything. I'd be more inclined to believe
> PCPartner misidentified the board. We may never know....
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides the
> > ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> > > "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
> > > ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> > > So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of the
> > > computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> > > There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete info.
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper manual
> > > > it states:
> > > > <quote>
> > > > On-Board I/O
> > > >
> > > > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> > > > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> > > > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> > > >
> > > > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> > > >
> > > > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> > > >
> > > > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or 2.88MB.
> > > >
> > > > Two USB ports.
> > > >
> > > > PS/2 mouse port.
> > > >
> > > > PS/2 keyboard port.
> > > >
> > > > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> > > >
> > > > </quote>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Brian A.
> > > >
> > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

glee

February 21st 05, 02:54 PM

Those are headers for front ports, and the boards still have the ports soldered to
the board also, as all ATX boards I have ever seen. The OP is saying he has *no*
soldered-on integral USB ports, and that is why he added a PCI USB card. Yet, he
identifies the mobo as an ATX model whose manual shows the usual integrated USB
ports soldered on. So, I am having a hard time in this thread determining what is
actually there and what board he actually has. :-\
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> I've got a Gigabyte 7VTXE KT266 DDR system (from Ascent) sitting right
> here that has both, actually: Two jacks soldered to the board and in the
> usual place near PS/2 parallel port, etc., and a couple of jacks in a
> card-slot holder that plug into the board at the opposite corner. (It's
> the one that got fried and has given me such heartburn trying to
> replace, at least temporarily.) I assume the usual intention is for
> those to supply a front panel.
>
> I saw a whitebox build a while back (my Dad is in the habit of searching
> for *real* barebones (and *real* cheap) systems to replace old
> single-duty DOS boxes for the local newspaper) that had a similar
> layout, but they hadn't bothered to add the header in the usual place.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On an ATX mobo?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks
> that
> > > actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't
> confuse
> > > the two terms.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > >
> > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > > > > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD
> which
> > > must be
> > > > > configure individually (just wonder How)
> > > >
> > > > You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back of
> the
> > > > computer that look like the ones on the card?
> > >
> >
>

glee

February 21st 05, 02:58 PM

Have you read and followed the suggestions I made in my reply of February 20 in this
thread to your earlier response (21KB message)? It does not appear that you have,
so I will re-post it here:

<paste>

Replies inline, below.....***

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
> will get lost.
>
> PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.

***That's a USB 2.0 card

> There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
> when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it cannot
> find the driver.)

***There should have been a driver disc to install the USB 2.0 functionality.

> When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
> tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the CARD
> into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass and

***Exactly what do you mean by "let it pass"?

> when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
> tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as there
> is no 'Other devices" or question marks?

***The "Other Devices" listing for Serial Bus Controller that you had earlier is not
there now? What you see depends on what you mean when you say you "let it pass".
You are given the option during the dialog asking for the driver, to click Finish or
Cancel. One of those options will put the item in Other Devices, and one will not
install any driver, if you did not point it to a file , folder or disk when it asked
for one. If you chose the latter option, and that is what you mean by "let it pass"
then no, there won't be an entry in Other Devices. However, when you reboot, it
will detect it again and ask for a driver again. Is that what is happening?

What you should do is start in Safe Mode, open Device Manager there, and remove ALL
entries under Universal serial Bus Controller and under Other Devices, then click OK
and restart in normal mode. Windows will detect the USB Controller and should also
detect the second one that you were seeing in Other Devices. If this occurs, you
can click Finish, then install the Ali USB 2.0 drivers from here:
ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip

> The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
> website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.
>
> It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
> exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start asking
> for the missing file.
> The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it just
> could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
> the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
> It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but still
> it cannot find the file.

***You didn't follow Brian's instructions correctly.
Start> Find> Files or Folders: In the Named box, type *.cab, in the Containing Text
box, type the name of the file you need, such as iyuv_32.dll. In the Look In box,
click Browse, and navigate to the Win98 folder on the CD, such as D:\Win98. Click
Find Now. The .cab file containing that file will appear....in this case, on my
Win98SE CD, Driver12.cab. Double-click the .cab file to open it, and extract the
file you need to a temporary folder such as C:\Windows\Temp. Do this for all the
files it says it cannot find. Then re-run the VideoCam installer, and point to the
files in the Temp folder when it asks for them.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Anything on VideoCAM and CARD, I deleted in DM and reboot. Next new hware,
> CARD found and just 'Next' to 'finish' the installation as they cannot locate
> the driver since there is no disc for this CARD.
> (CAM drivers already install in pc)
>
> Then plug in the CAM and found new hware, VidecCAM and ask for 98se cd. and
> 'CLICK OK' and give a message "iyuv_32.dll in 98se cannot be found. Insert
> CD and click ok. There is a dialogue box, copy this from
> c:\windows\camsetup
> and obviously they cannot find it, Click 'NEXT' it will go ahead and said
> found new hware 'WebCAM' and ask for 98se cd.click 'NEXT' cant find
> 'ijuv_32.dll file on Windows, insert 98se cd ..... click 'cancel' and it will
> give you foun fd new hware and 'jyuv_32.dll in Windows cannot be found. and
> if you click cancel, it just give you missing file which they cannot find
> file.
>
> One thing I noticed is the CDROM d: drive it never change from 98SE label to
> VideCAM label when you change the disc. Does this seems right? Dont know what
> can I do next except that VideoCAM is backward compitable (confirmation by
> manufacturer).............am sure someone must have experience this odd
> situation help please TIA
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Well, that's the manual for what was reported. Perhaps Everest identified the
board
> > wrong....there's a first time for everything. I'd be more inclined to believe
> > PCPartner misidentified the board. We may never know....
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides the
> > > ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> > > > "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
> > > > ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> > > > So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of
the
> > > > computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> > > > There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete
info.
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper
manual
> > > > > it states:
> > > > > <quote>
> > > > > On-Board I/O
> > > > >
> > > > > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> > > > > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> > > > > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> > > > >
> > > > > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> > > > >
> > > > > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or
2.88MB.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two USB ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > PS/2 mouse port.
> > > > >
> > > > > PS/2 keyboard port.
> > > > >
> > > > > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> > > > >
> > > > > </quote>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian A.
> > > > >
> > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 22nd 05, 03:13 AM

I dont know if this has gone thru, but will repost...sorry.............

Many thanks for all your help and I apologise for not following exactly all
what was been posted.

Brian (2/20/2005 5.08)- many thanks for the link
http://home.comcast.net/~bascon58/inq_results1.htm
on the driver(U2v2_1_9) and downloaded into a diskette. I used it but I
think I will not describe whats happen as I want to start afresh from Gray
posting (2/20/2005 9.12)

In safe mode, delete ALL under the Universal Serial Bus controllers
(including USB Root Hub) and "Other devices".
Reboot and detected the Intel 82801AA and found its drivers. Detected the
"AliPCI to USB Open Host Controller" and ask for driver.
Tried to download from below but unable to get to website.
ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip
(tried www.aliusa, no luck, check with ISP they cant get thru also)

So I go to safe mode again, download the U2v2_1_9 and install the driver (by
clicking on the icon). Then still in safe mode, I deleted ALL and related to
AliPCI (including the USB Root Hub )

AND reboot in normal. It found new hardware INTEL 808011AA and ask for 98
cd, found the drivers, next found
"AliPCI to USB Open Host Controller"
click "NEXT", check the "Search for the best drivers for this (recommended)
click "NEXT' and give the 4 options
a/ FLOPPY b/CD ROM c/ Microsoft Windows Update d/ Specify a
location
Since I already install the U2v2_1_9, I click "NEXT"

and it ask "what do you want to install?
1/ The updated driver (recommended)
ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller
2/ One of the other drivers

So choose option (1) and click "NEXT' AND GIVE THE LOCATION OF DRIVER
C:\WINDOWS\INF\USB.INF and click "NEXT"

'INSERT DISK"-please insert 98secd and click ok
then it says copying files ...."openhci.sys"
inthe copy this from: type in"d:\win98 - click ok,
screen appears and says ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller-finish installing
the software.....
click "finish"

Then it goes thru a series of found new hard ware by itself and ask to
restart the pc.
Reboot in normal

Now, In DM, it shows the following :-

UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
-ALi USB2.0 Enchanced Host Controller(with a yelloe exclamation mark)

UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
-ALi PCI to USB Open Host Controller
-Intel 82801AA USB Universal Host Controller
-USB Root Hub
-USB Root Hub

Question: How come 2 entries of ALiPCI, has it got to do with U2v2_1_9?

and I will just pause here on the installation part and awaits any comments
from you all And
in the meantime will try to answer a few questions from the post.
Yes, I have winzip on desktop, which when you double click on it, it will
prompt you to "buy" or use "evaluation copy"

On the physical side,open the casing and there are no "usb"ports solder on
the mobo. What I have are the 2 on the CARD. The CARD manual says

"5273-2l USB HOST CONTROLLER (A)" - {{dont know why they have
the wide spacing before the word (A)}}

1.OVERVIEW
USB Port Features-is a true 32-bit PCI-Bus USB card. It support the
following I/O features
-Dual USB port(root hub and two down stream function ports)
-auto detect speedand connections of devices
-Integrated physical layer transceivers
-Normal and low power operating mode
-Fully PnP
-OHCI spec v1.0 register compatible
-USB specification V 1.1 compatible

Package Content:- a) The PCI USB Card, b) Installation Guide, c)
Waranty card
(pls note next page it the Hardware Installation and there also Installing
the Software Drivers (talk about inser 98se cd)

2.CONFIGURATION
The PCI USB CARD
It has a diagram and indicated 'USB PORT pin signal'
It did not say anything about I need to do/configure to mobo.

3.HARDWARE INSTALLATION - which I will skid
4. INSTALLING the Software drivers.
When you initially connect the USB Port, Windows will automatically
detect you have a new device and thus request the Windows 98CD. Follow the
step by step instruction how to install the software drivers.
STEP1- Below a 'picture' which of the "ADD NEW HARDWARE WIZARD' on the LHS.
On the RHS, a picture of heading "COPYING FILES"
step2-Insert cd when asked and click 'ok'
STEP3-If the default path to w98 directory on the CD-ROM is incorrect, you
will see (RHS picture) and type in the correct path to your CD-ROM and left
mouse click on the 'ok' button

5. USING YOUR PCI USB CARD.
Initializing USB Devices-When you first connect a USB device to your USB
port, Windows will automatically detect thepresence of the new hardware.It
will request software drivers.........

When you first install a new USB peripherial you need to install it on both
USB ports. The reason for this is so it can configure itself to each port so
it will know which USB port to communicate with. {end}

I know one of you have said "2" and should have a disc but there is non, SO
is this 1.1 or 2?

Once again, many thanks for staying and guide me.

+++++

"glee" wrote:

> Have you read and followed the suggestions I made in my reply of February 20 in this
> thread to your earlier response (21KB message)? It does not appear that you have,
> so I will re-post it here:
>
> <paste>
>
> Replies inline, below.....***
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
> > will get lost.
> >
> > PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.
>
> ***That's a USB 2.0 card
>
>
> > There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
> > when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it cannot
> > find the driver.)
>
> ***There should have been a driver disc to install the USB 2.0 functionality.
>
>
> > When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
> > tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the CARD
> > into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass and
>
> ***Exactly what do you mean by "let it pass"?
>
>
> > when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
> > tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as there
> > is no 'Other devices" or question marks?
>
> ***The "Other Devices" listing for Serial Bus Controller that you had earlier is not
> there now? What you see depends on what you mean when you say you "let it pass".
> You are given the option during the dialog asking for the driver, to click Finish or
> Cancel. One of those options will put the item in Other Devices, and one will not
> install any driver, if you did not point it to a file , folder or disk when it asked
> for one. If you chose the latter option, and that is what you mean by "let it pass"
> then no, there won't be an entry in Other Devices. However, when you reboot, it
> will detect it again and ask for a driver again. Is that what is happening?
>
> What you should do is start in Safe Mode, open Device Manager there, and remove ALL
> entries under Universal serial Bus Controller and under Other Devices, then click OK
> and restart in normal mode. Windows will detect the USB Controller and should also
> detect the second one that you were seeing in Other Devices. If this occurs, you
> can click Finish, then install the Ali USB 2.0 drivers from here:
> ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip
>
>
> > The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
> > website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.
> >
> > It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
> > exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start asking
> > for the missing file.
> > The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it just
> > could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
> > the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
> > It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but still
> > it cannot find the file.
>
> ***You didn't follow Brian's instructions correctly.
> Start> Find> Files or Folders: In the Named box, type *.cab, in the Containing Text
> box, type the name of the file you need, such as iyuv_32.dll. In the Look In box,
> click Browse, and navigate to the Win98 folder on the CD, such as D:\Win98. Click
> Find Now. The .cab file containing that file will appear....in this case, on my
> Win98SE CD, Driver12.cab. Double-click the .cab file to open it, and extract the
> file you need to a temporary folder such as C:\Windows\Temp. Do this for all the
> files it says it cannot find. Then re-run the VideoCam installer, and point to the
> files in the Temp folder when it asks for them.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anything on VideoCAM and CARD, I deleted in DM and reboot. Next new hware,
> > CARD found and just 'Next' to 'finish' the installation as they cannot locate
> > the driver since there is no disc for this CARD.
> > (CAM drivers already install in pc)
> >
> > Then plug in the CAM and found new hware, VidecCAM and ask for 98se cd. and
> > 'CLICK OK' and give a message "iyuv_32.dll in 98se cannot be found. Insert
> > CD and click ok. There is a dialogue box, copy this from
> > c:\windows\camsetup
> > and obviously they cannot find it, Click 'NEXT' it will go ahead and said
> > found new hware 'WebCAM' and ask for 98se cd.click 'NEXT' cant find
> > 'ijuv_32.dll file on Windows, insert 98se cd ..... click 'cancel' and it will
> > give you foun fd new hware and 'jyuv_32.dll in Windows cannot be found. and
> > if you click cancel, it just give you missing file which they cannot find
> > file.
> >
> > One thing I noticed is the CDROM d: drive it never change from 98SE label to
> > VideCAM label when you change the disc. Does this seems right? Dont know what
> > can I do next except that VideoCAM is backward compitable (confirmation by
> > manufacturer).............am sure someone must have experience this odd
> > situation help please TIA
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, that's the manual for what was reported. Perhaps Everest identified the
> board
> > > wrong....there's a first time for everything. I'd be more inclined to believe
> > > PCPartner misidentified the board. We may never know....
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides the
> > > > ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> > > > > "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2 usb
> > > > > ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> > > > > So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back of
> the
> > > > > computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> > > > > There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise complete
> info.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper
> manual
> > > > > > it states:
> > > > > > <quote>
> > > > > > On-Board I/O
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33 channels
> > > > > > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four IDE
> > > > > > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or
> 2.88MB.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two USB ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS/2 mouse port.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS/2 keyboard port.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > </quote>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Gary S. Terhune

February 22nd 05, 04:15 AM

All I can suggest is that I've seen barrel-bottom ATX boards without the
jacks having been soldered on (or perhaps the were removed?) Lord only
knows where they came from...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" > wrote in message
...
> Those are headers for front ports, and the boards still have the ports
soldered to
> the board also, as all ATX boards I have ever seen. The OP is saying
he has *no*
> soldered-on integral USB ports, and that is why he added a PCI USB
card. Yet, he
> identifies the mobo as an ATX model whose manual shows the usual
integrated USB
> ports soldered on. So, I am having a hard time in this thread
determining what is
> actually there and what board he actually has. :-\
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've got a Gigabyte 7VTXE KT266 DDR system (from Ascent) sitting
right
> > here that has both, actually: Two jacks soldered to the board and in
the
> > usual place near PS/2 parallel port, etc., and a couple of jacks in
a
> > card-slot holder that plug into the board at the opposite corner.
(It's
> > the one that got fried and has given me such heartburn trying to
> > replace, at least temporarily.) I assume the usual intention is for
> > those to supply a front panel.
> >
> > I saw a whitebox build a while back (my Dad is in the habit of
searching
> > for *real* barebones (and *real* cheap) systems to replace old
> > single-duty DOS boxes for the local newspaper) that had a similar
> > layout, but they hadn't bothered to add the header in the usual
place.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "glee" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On an ATX mobo?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks
> > that
> > > > actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't
> > confuse
> > > > the two terms.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > > > > > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD
> > which
> > > > must be
> > > > > > configure individually (just wonder How)
> > > > >
> > > > > You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back
of
> > the
> > > > > computer that look like the ones on the card?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Brian A.

February 22nd 05, 04:44 AM

Glen,

I can't seem to get to the ftp site either at the moment, I will try other
ways tomorrow, yet if you have a way to get there and you email me the zip
file I can make it available to Ian.

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

glee

February 22nd 05, 04:51 AM

I can't get the link I gave you to work either, though it worked a month ago.
Sorry.
As for the method you followed, you installed the driver Brian gave you (U2v2_1_9),
and then removed all the USB items in Safe Mode AFTER that....so you removed what
you just installed. The instruction was to remove all in Safe Mode, then start in
normal mode, and let Windows detect, then after that install U2v2_1_9 to add the
USB 2.0 driver.

However, your documentation is saying the unit is NOT a USB 2.0 card, but only USB
1.1, though the only ALI USB cards I have had the misfortune to work with that had
that chipset were USB 2.0 cards. So, it appears that you USB PCI card may only be
USB 1.1.

Back to the Other Device then....if it is in fact NOT the USB 2.0 Enhanced
Controller, then it may be the USB header on your motherboard, which you are unaware
of, as there may not be any physical ports attached to the header. I have never
seen such a setup on any ATX motherboard, and the identity of your motherboard from
the info you gave is that it is an ATX board with integral USB ports. As this point
I have no idea what you actually have there, without seeing it.

Does the motherboard look like the schematic drawing in the manual I linked to
earlier?
http://www.pcpartner.com.hk/support/man/intel/c87201.pdf
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> I dont know if this has gone thru, but will repost...sorry.............
>
> Many thanks for all your help and I apologise for not following exactly all
> what was been posted.
>
> Brian (2/20/2005 5.08)- many thanks for the link
> http://home.comcast.net/~bascon58/inq_results1.htm
> on the driver(U2v2_1_9) and downloaded into a diskette. I used it but I
> think I will not describe whats happen as I want to start afresh from Gray
> posting (2/20/2005 9.12)
>
> In safe mode, delete ALL under the Universal Serial Bus controllers
> (including USB Root Hub) and "Other devices".
> Reboot and detected the Intel 82801AA and found its drivers. Detected the
> "AliPCI to USB Open Host Controller" and ask for driver.
> Tried to download from below but unable to get to website.
> ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip
> (tried www.aliusa, no luck, check with ISP they cant get thru also)
>
> So I go to safe mode again, download the U2v2_1_9 and install the driver (by
> clicking on the icon). Then still in safe mode, I deleted ALL and related to
> AliPCI (including the USB Root Hub )
>
> AND reboot in normal. It found new hardware INTEL 808011AA and ask for 98
> cd, found the drivers, next found
> "AliPCI to USB Open Host Controller"
> click "NEXT", check the "Search for the best drivers for this (recommended)
> click "NEXT' and give the 4 options
> a/ FLOPPY b/CD ROM c/ Microsoft Windows Update d/ Specify a
> location
> Since I already install the U2v2_1_9, I click "NEXT"
>
> and it ask "what do you want to install?
> 1/ The updated driver (recommended)
> ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller
> 2/ One of the other drivers
>
> So choose option (1) and click "NEXT' AND GIVE THE LOCATION OF DRIVER
> C:\WINDOWS\INF\USB.INF and click "NEXT"
>
> 'INSERT DISK"-please insert 98secd and click ok
> then it says copying files ...."openhci.sys"
> inthe copy this from: type in"d:\win98 - click ok,
> screen appears and says ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller-finish installing
> the software.....
> click "finish"
>
> Then it goes thru a series of found new hard ware by itself and ask to
> restart the pc.
> Reboot in normal
>
> Now, In DM, it shows the following :-
>
> UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
> -ALi USB2.0 Enchanced Host Controller(with a yelloe exclamation mark)
>
> UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
> -ALi PCI to USB Open Host Controller
> -Intel 82801AA USB Universal Host Controller
> -USB Root Hub
> -USB Root Hub
>
> Question: How come 2 entries of ALiPCI, has it got to do with U2v2_1_9?
>
> and I will just pause here on the installation part and awaits any comments
> from you all And
> in the meantime will try to answer a few questions from the post.
> Yes, I have winzip on desktop, which when you double click on it, it will
> prompt you to "buy" or use "evaluation copy"
>
> On the physical side,open the casing and there are no "usb"ports solder on
> the mobo. What I have are the 2 on the CARD. The CARD manual says
>
> "5273-2l USB HOST CONTROLLER (A)" - {{dont know why they have
> the wide spacing before the word (A)}}
>
> 1.OVERVIEW
> USB Port Features-is a true 32-bit PCI-Bus USB card. It support the
> following I/O features
> -Dual USB port(root hub and two down stream function ports)
> -auto detect speedand connections of devices
> -Integrated physical layer transceivers
> -Normal and low power operating mode
> -Fully PnP
> -OHCI spec v1.0 register compatible
> -USB specification V 1.1 compatible
>
> Package Content:- a) The PCI USB Card, b) Installation Guide, c)
> Waranty card
> (pls note next page it the Hardware Installation and there also Installing
> the Software Drivers (talk about inser 98se cd)
>
> 2.CONFIGURATION
> The PCI USB CARD
> It has a diagram and indicated 'USB PORT pin signal'
> It did not say anything about I need to do/configure to mobo.
>
> 3.HARDWARE INSTALLATION - which I will skid
> 4. INSTALLING the Software drivers.
> When you initially connect the USB Port, Windows will automatically
> detect you have a new device and thus request the Windows 98CD. Follow the
> step by step instruction how to install the software drivers.
> STEP1- Below a 'picture' which of the "ADD NEW HARDWARE WIZARD' on the LHS.
> On the RHS, a picture of heading "COPYING FILES"
> step2-Insert cd when asked and click 'ok'
> STEP3-If the default path to w98 directory on the CD-ROM is incorrect, you
> will see (RHS picture) and type in the correct path to your CD-ROM and left
> mouse click on the 'ok' button
>
> 5. USING YOUR PCI USB CARD.
> Initializing USB Devices-When you first connect a USB device to your USB
> port, Windows will automatically detect thepresence of the new hardware.It
> will request software drivers.........
>
> When you first install a new USB peripherial you need to install it on both
> USB ports. The reason for this is so it can configure itself to each port so
> it will know which USB port to communicate with. {end}
>
> I know one of you have said "2" and should have a disc but there is non, SO
> is this 1.1 or 2?
>
> Once again, many thanks for staying and guide me.
>
> +++++
>
>
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > Have you read and followed the suggestions I made in my reply of February 20 in
this
> > thread to your earlier response (21KB message)? It does not appear that you
have,
> > so I will re-post it here:
> >
> > <paste>
> >
> > Replies inline, below.....***
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Brian and Glee, I will write in the sequence of what I did as otherwise I
> > > will get lost.
> > >
> > > PCI USB card has ALi M5273 A1, 0402 7505, CK468291000B.
> >
> > ***That's a USB 2.0 card
> >
> >
> > > There is no dirver disc for the CARD. (Its says during the installation,
> > > when ask for 98se cd, then insert which is what I did but it says it cannot
> > > find the driver.)
> >
> > ***There should have been a driver disc to install the USB 2.0 functionality.
> >
> >
> > > When I take the CARD out of the pc, in the DM, Under UNI Serial BC
> > > tree-there is no ALiPCI to USB Open Host Controller. But when I fix the CARD
> > > into the pc, it ask for the driver and as there is no disc, I let it pass and
> >
> > ***Exactly what do you mean by "let it pass"?
> >
> >
> > > when I check the DM again, the ALi PCI appears under the UniSBcontrollers
> > > tree. I assume that the CARD has found the driver, is that correct as there
> > > is no 'Other devices" or question marks?
> >
> > ***The "Other Devices" listing for Serial Bus Controller that you had earlier is
not
> > there now? What you see depends on what you mean when you say you "let it
pass".
> > You are given the option during the dialog asking for the driver, to click
Finish or
> > Cancel. One of those options will put the item in Other Devices, and one will
not
> > install any driver, if you did not point it to a file , folder or disk when it
asked
> > for one. If you chose the latter option, and that is what you mean by "let it
pass"
> > then no, there won't be an entry in Other Devices. However, when you reboot, it
> > will detect it again and ask for a driver again. Is that what is happening?
> >
> > What you should do is start in Safe Mode, open Device Manager there, and remove
ALL
> > entries under Universal serial Bus Controller and under Other Devices, then
click OK
> > and restart in normal mode. Windows will detect the USB Controller and should
also
> > detect the second one that you were seeing in Other Devices. If this occurs,
you
> > can click Finish, then install the Ali USB 2.0 drivers from here:
> > ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/AliEHCI_152.zip
> >
> >
> > > The VideoCAM manual did not say much.What you see in the manual over there
> > > website is exactly what I have, just a couple of sentences.
> > >
> > > It says to install the drivers before connecting the VideoCAM. This is
> > > exactly what I did and after that I connect the VideoCAM and it start asking
> > > for the missing file.
> > > The first missing file is "iyuv_32.dll" and when I insert the 98cd, it just
> > > could not find it. The Start/search/find/folder/*cab - dont seems to find
> > > the "iyuv_32.dll' file. Suppose, it must be zip in one of the CAB.
> > > It say type in the correct path which I type "d' or "d:\window(s)\ but still
> > > it cannot find the file.
> >
> > ***You didn't follow Brian's instructions correctly.
> > Start> Find> Files or Folders: In the Named box, type *.cab, in the Containing
Text
> > box, type the name of the file you need, such as iyuv_32.dll. In the Look In
box,
> > click Browse, and navigate to the Win98 folder on the CD, such as D:\Win98.
Click
> > Find Now. The .cab file containing that file will appear....in this case, on my
> > Win98SE CD, Driver12.cab. Double-click the .cab file to open it, and extract
the
> > file you need to a temporary folder such as C:\Windows\Temp. Do this for all
the
> > files it says it cannot find. Then re-run the VideoCam installer, and point to
the
> > files in the Temp folder when it asks for them.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Anything on VideoCAM and CARD, I deleted in DM and reboot. Next new hware,
> > > CARD found and just 'Next' to 'finish' the installation as they cannot locate
> > > the driver since there is no disc for this CARD.
> > > (CAM drivers already install in pc)
> > >
> > > Then plug in the CAM and found new hware, VidecCAM and ask for 98se cd. and
> > > 'CLICK OK' and give a message "iyuv_32.dll in 98se cannot be found. Insert
> > > CD and click ok. There is a dialogue box, copy this from
> > > c:\windows\camsetup
> > > and obviously they cannot find it, Click 'NEXT' it will go ahead and said
> > > found new hware 'WebCAM' and ask for 98se cd.click 'NEXT' cant find
> > > 'ijuv_32.dll file on Windows, insert 98se cd ..... click 'cancel' and it will
> > > give you foun fd new hware and 'jyuv_32.dll in Windows cannot be found. and
> > > if you click cancel, it just give you missing file which they cannot find
> > > file.
> > >
> > > One thing I noticed is the CDROM d: drive it never change from 98SE label to
> > > VideCAM label when you change the disc. Does this seems right? Dont know what
> > > can I do next except that VideoCAM is backward compitable (confirmation by
> > > manufacturer).............am sure someone must have experience this odd
> > > situation help please TIA
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, that's the manual for what was reported. Perhaps Everest identified
the
> > board
> > > > wrong....there's a first time for everything. I'd be more inclined to
believe
> > > > PCPartner misidentified the board. We may never know....
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I look behind and all round the pc, there are no otherusb ports besides
the
> > > > > ones on the CARD, so the manual must be wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, the OP wrote in an earlier reply:
> > > > > > "Only these 2 usb ports. IOW stands for?. Yes PCI card installed for 2
usb
> > > > > > ports because there is no usb ports built into the pc."
> > > > > > So, either the manual is the wrong one, or he isn't looking at the back
of
> > the
> > > > > > computer closely, because it shows an ATX mobo with two USB ports.
> > > > > > There seems to be some difficulty in this thread getting precise
complete
> > info.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > According to the linked manual you provide, provided it is the proper
> > manual
> > > > > > > it states:
> > > > > > > <quote>
> > > > > > > On-Board I/O
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Support two PCI enhanced IDEs PIO mode 3, mode 4 and ultra DMA 33
channels
> > > > > > > (Optional ultra DMA 66 & ultra DMA 66 Cable). Twin headers for four
IDE
> > > > > > > devices Including IDE HDDs and CDROMs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One ECP/EPP parallel port .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two 16550A UART serial ports.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One floppy port support two FDDs of 360KB, 720KB, 1.2MB, 1.44MB or
> > 2.88MB.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two USB ports.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS/2 mouse port.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS/2 keyboard port.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Infrared (IrDA) support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > </quote>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian A.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

glee

February 22nd 05, 04:54 AM

I hope I never see one..... ;-)

If you get a chance, check the latest replies from Ian and myself in this thread. I
have about given up trying to figure out what hardware is actually present.
%-P
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> All I can suggest is that I've seen barrel-bottom ATX boards without the
> jacks having been soldered on (or perhaps the were removed?) Lord only
> knows where they came from...
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Those are headers for front ports, and the boards still have the ports
> soldered to
> > the board also, as all ATX boards I have ever seen. The OP is saying
> he has *no*
> > soldered-on integral USB ports, and that is why he added a PCI USB
> card. Yet, he
> > identifies the mobo as an ATX model whose manual shows the usual
> integrated USB
> > ports soldered on. So, I am having a hard time in this thread
> determining what is
> > actually there and what board he actually has. :-\
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've got a Gigabyte 7VTXE KT266 DDR system (from Ascent) sitting
> right
> > > here that has both, actually: Two jacks soldered to the board and in
> the
> > > usual place near PS/2 parallel port, etc., and a couple of jacks in
> a
> > > card-slot holder that plug into the board at the opposite corner.
> (It's
> > > the one that got fried and has given me such heartburn trying to
> > > replace, at least temporarily.) I assume the usual intention is for
> > > those to supply a front panel.
> > >
> > > I saw a whitebox build a while back (my Dad is in the habit of
> searching
> > > for *real* barebones (and *real* cheap) systems to replace old
> > > single-duty DOS boxes for the local newspaper) that had a similar
> > > layout, but they hadn't bothered to add the header in the usual
> place.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > >
> > > "glee" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On an ATX mobo?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > There may be two onboard USB ports--missing the cables and jacks
> > > that
> > > > > actually let you use them. To Ian: Ports are not jacks. Don't
> > > confuse
> > > > > the two terms.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > I only have 1 hd with 1 partition and the CDRom Drive is 'd'
> > > > > > > and there is no on-board USB. The 2 usb ports are onthe CARD
> > > which
> > > > > must be
> > > > > > > configure individually (just wonder How)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're positive of this? You don't see 2 sockets on the back
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > computer that look like the ones on the card?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

glee

February 22nd 05, 04:59 AM

I already have the file from last month when I d'loaded it, and now I can't get
there either. I have a great dislike of ALI USB cards and drivers.

Your driver may be a better one anyway....in fact I am going to try it here on a
machine with an ALI USB 2.0 PCI card that does not work at all unless I remove the
USB 2.0 drivers and leave it as a USB 1.1 card, with an "Other Device" in DM for the
uninstalled Enhanced Controller.

If you read Ian's latest reply, the documentation for his card says it is only USB
1.1....I have only seen ALI USB 2.0 cards with that chipset, but that doesn't mean
anything. So, he may not need a driver at all.
:-\
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
...
> Glen,
>
> I can't seem to get to the ftp site either at the moment, I will try other
> ways tomorrow, yet if you have a way to get there and you email me the zip
> file I can make it available to Ian.
>
> --
>
> Brian A.
>
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>

Ian

February 22nd 05, 07:19 AM

Glen ref 2/21/2005 8.54 quote

"As for the method you followed, you installed the driver Brian gave you
(U2v2_1_9),
and then removed all the USB items in Safe Mode AFTER that....so you removed
what you just installed" -------- allow to to clarify because U2v2_1_9 was in
the diskette, so I copy to the desktop and double click the icon. So I
believe for me to say "install the driver" may not be correct as I only load
into the pc. I hope I am right in saying that.
Comparing the diagram, does not look the same. Putting laying flat and the
front of the cpu as on my right,

TIA

inside from bottom up, 4 pci slot,1vga,2 ram slot, next cpu.
almost parallel to pci#4 and vga are the 3 connectors for the data cableS.

All the ports namely, serial mouse,speakers port,monitor port,and printer
port have cable connected to mobo. Then there is a big connectoe for the kb,
which is solder on mobo. pls note there is no vga card.
As for the power supply, there are 2 parallel rows , one for ATX and the
other for AT (currently using it, which itself are 2 smaller connectors).
The internal modem been taken out and all these while the modem is not fix
on. Other than that, there is no other usb ports except on the CARD. Cos
forgot to sat 1 hd and 1 cd rom.

I have
"glee" wrote:

> I already have the file from last month when I d'loaded it, and now I can't get
> there either. I have a great dislike of ALI USB cards and drivers.
>
> Your driver may be a better one anyway....in fact I am going to try it here on a
> machine with an ALI USB 2.0 PCI card that does not work at all unless I remove the
> USB 2.0 drivers and leave it as a USB 1.1 card, with an "Other Device" in DM for the
> uninstalled Enhanced Controller.
>
> If you read Ian's latest reply, the documentation for his card says it is only USB
> 1.1....I have only seen ALI USB 2.0 cards with that chipset, but that doesn't mean
> anything. So, he may not need a driver at all.
> :-\
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> ...
> > Glen,
> >
> > I can't seem to get to the ftp site either at the moment, I will try other
> > ways tomorrow, yet if you have a way to get there and you email me the zip
> > file I can make it available to Ian.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian A.
> >
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
>
>

glee

February 22nd 05, 12:13 PM

OK, that's an older AT mobo, and definitely not the one in the manual....so it has
not been correctly identified, and there are no onboard USB ports....though there
may well be a USB header on the mobo with no ports attached.

You should not need the driver Brian gave you, unless the PCI card USB ports are USB
2.0, and the docs say they are not.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> Glen ref 2/21/2005 8.54 quote
>
> "As for the method you followed, you installed the driver Brian gave you
> (U2v2_1_9),
> and then removed all the USB items in Safe Mode AFTER that....so you removed
> what you just installed" -------- allow to to clarify because U2v2_1_9 was in
> the diskette, so I copy to the desktop and double click the icon. So I
> believe for me to say "install the driver" may not be correct as I only load
> into the pc. I hope I am right in saying that.
> Comparing the diagram, does not look the same. Putting laying flat and the
> front of the cpu as on my right,
>
> TIA
>
> inside from bottom up, 4 pci slot,1vga,2 ram slot, next cpu.
> almost parallel to pci#4 and vga are the 3 connectors for the data cableS.
>
> All the ports namely, serial mouse,speakers port,monitor port,and printer
> port have cable connected to mobo. Then there is a big connectoe for the kb,
> which is solder on mobo. pls note there is no vga card.
> As for the power supply, there are 2 parallel rows , one for ATX and the
> other for AT (currently using it, which itself are 2 smaller connectors).
> The internal modem been taken out and all these while the modem is not fix
> on. Other than that, there is no other usb ports except on the CARD. Cos
> forgot to sat 1 hd and 1 cd rom.
>
>
> I have
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > I already have the file from last month when I d'loaded it, and now I can't get
> > there either. I have a great dislike of ALI USB cards and drivers.
> >
> > Your driver may be a better one anyway....in fact I am going to try it here on a
> > machine with an ALI USB 2.0 PCI card that does not work at all unless I remove
the
> > USB 2.0 drivers and leave it as a USB 1.1 card, with an "Other Device" in DM for
the
> > uninstalled Enhanced Controller.
> >
> > If you read Ian's latest reply, the documentation for his card says it is only
USB
> > 1.1....I have only seen ALI USB 2.0 cards with that chipset, but that doesn't
mean
> > anything. So, he may not need a driver at all.
> > :-\
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Glen,
> > >
> > > I can't seem to get to the ftp site either at the moment, I will try other
> > > ways tomorrow, yet if you have a way to get there and you email me the zip
> > > file I can make it available to Ian.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Brian A.
> > >
> > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> >
> >

Ian

February 22nd 05, 12:33 PM

Lets say if I dont need the U2V2_1_9, then how do I remove this driver since
I have downloaded/install into the pc? There is nothing showing in add/remove.

As you know these are in DM
1/ UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
-ALi USB2.0 Enchanced Host Controller(with a yelloe exclamation mark)

2/ UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS CONTROLLERS
-ALi PCI to USB Open Host Controller
-Intel 82801AA USB Universal Host Controller
-USB Root Hub
-USB Root Hub
Just tried, in safe mode, remove everything in (1)
and from (2) everything thing except Intel
and reboot. Upon reboot, everything cameback again.

TIA.

"glee" wrote:

> OK, that's an older AT mobo, and definitely not the one in the manual....so it has
> not been correctly identified, and there are no onboard USB ports....though there
> may well be a USB header on the mobo with no ports attached.
>
> You should not need the driver Brian gave you, unless the PCI card USB ports are USB
> 2.0, and the docs say they are not.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Glen ref 2/21/2005 8.54 quote
> >
> > "As for the method you followed, you installed the driver Brian gave you
> > (U2v2_1_9),
> > and then removed all the USB items in Safe Mode AFTER that....so you removed
> > what you just installed" -------- allow to to clarify because U2v2_1_9 was in
> > the diskette, so I copy to the desktop and double click the icon. So I
> > believe for me to say "install the driver" may not be correct as I only load
> > into the pc. I hope I am right in saying that.
> > Comparing the diagram, does not look the same. Putting laying flat and the
> > front of the cpu as on my right,
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > inside from bottom up, 4 pci slot,1vga,2 ram slot, next cpu.
> > almost parallel to pci#4 and vga are the 3 connectors for the data cableS.
> >
> > All the ports namely, serial mouse,speakers port,monitor port,and printer
> > port have cable connected to mobo. Then there is a big connectoe for the kb,
> > which is solder on mobo. pls note there is no vga card.
> > As for the power supply, there are 2 parallel rows , one for ATX and the
> > other for AT (currently using it, which itself are 2 smaller connectors).
> > The internal modem been taken out and all these while the modem is not fix
> > on. Other than that, there is no other usb ports except on the CARD. Cos
> > forgot to sat 1 hd and 1 cd rom.
> >
> >
> > I have
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > I already have the file from last month when I d'loaded it, and now I can't get
> > > there either. I have a great dislike of ALI USB cards and drivers.
> > >
> > > Your driver may be a better one anyway....in fact I am going to try it here on a
> > > machine with an ALI USB 2.0 PCI card that does not work at all unless I remove
> the
> > > USB 2.0 drivers and leave it as a USB 1.1 card, with an "Other Device" in DM for
> the
> > > uninstalled Enhanced Controller.
> > >
> > > If you read Ian's latest reply, the documentation for his card says it is only
> USB
> > > 1.1....I have only seen ALI USB 2.0 cards with that chipset, but that doesn't
> mean
> > > anything. So, he may not need a driver at all.
> > > :-\
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Glen,
> > > >
> > > > I can't seem to get to the ftp site either at the moment, I will try other
> > > > ways tomorrow, yet if you have a way to get there and you email me the zip
> > > > file I can make it available to Ian.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Brian A.
> > > >
> > > > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>