Re: DOS Program does not see SCSI devices. Att: Chris and Gary MVP's

[Dan]

Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance operating
system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke will respond
to your comments, Alex.

"Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
...
: Dan wrote:
:
: >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com prompt. Microsoft
: >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system of XP PRO.
and
: >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according to Chris
: >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
:
: command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is cmd.exe
:
: command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy use, I
: think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for example no
: LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
:
:
: --
: Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
: Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[anonymous]

Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup are likely
to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate information. You
should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows 98
newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.

"Dan" wrote:

> Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance operating
> system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke will respond
> to your comments, Alex.
>
> "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
> ...
> : Dan wrote:
> :
> : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com prompt. Microsoft
> : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system of XP PRO.
> and
> : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according to Chris
> : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
> :
> : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is cmd.exe
> :
> : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy use, I
> : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for example no
> : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
> :
> :
> : --
> : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General group and
got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's mostly
because he wanted me and Chris to see it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"anonymous" > wrote in message
...
> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup are
likely
> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
information. You
> should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows 98
> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
operating
> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke will
respond
> > to your comments, Alex.
> >
> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > : Dan wrote:
> > :
> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com prompt.
Microsoft
> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system of
XP PRO.
> > and
> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according to
Chris
> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
> > :
> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is
cmd.exe
> > :
> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy
use, I
> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for
example no
> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
> > :
> > :
> > : --
> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
> >
> >
> >

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Correct Gary. Just the usual arguement about wanting a maintenance OS
embedded in an NT system.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General group and
> got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's mostly
> because he wanted me and Chris to see it.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "anonymous" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup are
> likely
>> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
> information. You
>> should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows 98
>> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
>>
>> "Dan" wrote:
>>
>> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
> operating
>> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke will
> respond
>> > to your comments, Alex.
>> >
>> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > : Dan wrote:
>> > :
>> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com prompt.
> Microsoft
>> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system of
> XP PRO.
>> > and
>> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according to
> Chris
>> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
>> > :
>> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is
> cmd.exe
>> > :
>> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy
> use, I
>> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for
> example no
>> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : --
>> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
>> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

Come September....

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" > wrote in message
...
> Correct Gary. Just the usual arguement about wanting a maintenance OS
> embedded in an NT system.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General group
and
> > got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's mostly
> > because he wanted me and Chris to see it.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "anonymous" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup
are
> > likely
> >> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
> > information. You
> >> should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows
98
> >> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
> >>
> >> "Dan" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
> > operating
> >> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke
will
> > respond
> >> > to your comments, Alex.
> >> >
> >> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > : Dan wrote:
> >> > :
> >> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com
prompt.
> > Microsoft
> >> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system
of
> > XP PRO.
> >> > and
> >> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according
to
> > Chris
> >> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
> >> > :
> >> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is
> > cmd.exe
> >> > :
> >> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy
> > use, I
> >> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for
> > example no
> >> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
> >> > :
> >> > :
> >> > : --
> >> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> >> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
>
>

[Dan]

What do you mean by come september, Gary?

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
: Come September....
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Correct Gary. Just the usual arguement about wanting a maintenance OS
: > embedded in an NT system.
: >
: > --
: > Best of Luck,
: >
: > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
: > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
: > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
: > www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
: > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
: > ...
: > > From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General group
: and
: > > got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's mostly
: > > because he wanted me and Chris to see it.
: > >
: > > --
: > > Gary S. Terhune
: > > MS MVP Shell/User
: > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
: > >
: > > "anonymous" > wrote in message
: > > ...
: > >> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup
: are
: > > likely
: > >> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
: > > information. You
: > >> should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows
: 98
: > >> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
: > >>
: > >> "Dan" wrote:
: > >>
: > >> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
: > > operating
: > >> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke
: will
: > > respond
: > >> > to your comments, Alex.
: > >> >
: > >> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
: > >> > ...
: > >> > : Dan wrote:
: > >> > :
: > >> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com
: prompt.
: > > Microsoft
: > >> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system
: of
: > > XP PRO.
: > >> > and
: > >> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according
: to
: > > Chris
: > >> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
: > >> > :
: > >> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is
: > > cmd.exe
: > >> > :
: > >> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy
: > > use, I
: > >> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for
: > > example no
: > >> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
: > >> > :
: > >> > :
: > >> > : --
: > >> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
: > >> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >
: >
: >
:

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Am very much looking forward to it <g>.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> Come September....
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Correct Gary. Just the usual arguement about wanting a maintenance OS
>> embedded in an NT system.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General group
> and
>> > got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's mostly
>> > because he wanted me and Chris to see it.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS MVP Shell/User
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >
>> > "anonymous" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98 newsgroup
> are
>> > likely
>> >> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
>> > information. You
>> >> should validate information about XP that you receive in a Windows
> 98
>> >> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
>> >>
>> >> "Dan" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
>> > operating
>> >> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris Quirke
> will
>> > respond
>> >> > to your comments, Alex.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> > : Dan wrote:
>> >> > :
>> >> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com
> prompt.
>> > Microsoft
>> >> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating system
> of
>> > XP PRO.
>> >> > and
>> >> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator according
> to
>> > Chris
>> >> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
>> >> > :
>> >> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that is
>> > cmd.exe
>> >> > :
>> >> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for legacy
>> > use, I
>> >> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has for
>> > example no
>> >> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> > : --
>> >> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
>> >> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

Can't tell you. It's a secret.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> What do you mean by come september, Gary?
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> : Come September....
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS MVP Shell/User
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> :
> : "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > Correct Gary. Just the usual arguement about wanting a maintenance
OS
> : > embedded in an NT system.
> : >
> : > --
> : > Best of Luck,
> : >
> : > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> : > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> : > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> : > www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> : > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : > > From what I can tell, this thread started in the XP General
group
> : and
> : > > got cross-posted to the Win98 group by Dan. I *think* that's
mostly
> : > > because he wanted me and Chris to see it.
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Gary S. Terhune
> : > > MS MVP Shell/User
> : > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> : > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> : > >
> : > > "anonymous" > wrote in
message
> : > > ...
> : > >> Questions relating to XP that are posted in a Windows 98
newsgroup
> : are
> : > > likely
> : > >> to be answered with inaccurate, incomplete or inappropriate
> : > > information. You
> : > >> should validate information about XP that you receive in a
Windows
> : 98
> : > >> newsgroup by asking the same question in an XP group.
> : > >>
> : > >> "Dan" wrote:
> : > >>
> : > >> > Well I still feel that XP needs to have their own maintenance
> : > > operating
> : > >> > system. Now let us see if Gary S. Terhune and/or Chris
Quirke
> : will
> : > > respond
> : > >> > to your comments, Alex.
> : > >> >
> : > >> > "Alex Nichol" > wrote in
message
> : > >> > ...
> : > >> > : Dan wrote:
> : > >> > :
> : > >> > : >XP has a critical flaw, Alex. It relies on command.com
> : prompt.
> : > > Microsoft
> : > >> > : >needs to completely overhaul the maintenance operating
system
> : of
> : > > XP PRO.
> : > >> > and
> : > >> > : >seperate it from the false DOS mode of this emulator
according
> : to
> : > > Chris
> : > >> > : >Quirke, MVP and Gary S. Terhune MVP.
> : > >> > :
> : > >> > : command.com is not the regular command interpreter - that
is
> : > > cmd.exe
> : > >> > :
> : > >> > : command.com is an *old* DOS 5 shell, retained purely for
legacy
> : > > use, I
> : > >> > : think manly for programs wanting to 'shell out'. It has
for
> : > > example no
> : > >> > : LFN support and should not be used in the ordinary way
> : > >> > :
> : > >> > :
> : > >> > : --
> : > >> > : Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> : > >> > : Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
> : > >> >
> : > >> >
> : > >> >
> : > >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>