index.dat

[macca in oz]

my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as i'm
running out of room

tia macca

[Don Phillipson]

"macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
...

> my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as i'm
> running out of room

MS uses this same filename for two or
more quite different lists, one of Cookies, another
of your Temporary Internet Files, another of User Data.
Try / start / settings / control panel / internet options
/ general / temp internet files / delete files
and see if that reduces INDEX.DAT to
a reasonable size. On this panel via / settings
you control how long this function stores data.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Ron Badour]

In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the space
department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump various
data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
larger) hard drive.

Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the temporary
internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from there--it
will be rebuilt by the system.

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
...
> my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as i'm
> running out of room
>
> tia macca

[Gary S. Terhune]

Assuming you're talking about the Temporary Internet Files INDEX.DAT,
and with a nod to Ron who rightly suggests that if you're worried about
15 MB, you've got much bigger problems, I suggest you try CacheSentry
from http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/

Be sure to follow the instructions to set Internet Explorer's cache size
to maximum, thus allowing CS to manage the cache. It does a great job of
cleaning up TIF files and the index.dat file, also. It's also free,
though there is "more powerful" Pro version available that costs a bit.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
...
> my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as
i'm
> running out of room
>
> tia macca

[Dan]

Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?

"Ron Badour" > wrote in message
...
: In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the space
: department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump various
: data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
: larger) hard drive.
:
: Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the temporary
: internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from
there--it
: will be rebuilt by the system.
:
: --
: Regards
:
: Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
: Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
: Knowledge Base Info:
: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
:
: "macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
: ...
: > my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as i'm
: > running out of room
: >
: > tia macca
:
:

[PCR]

Actually, at long last, I've come to like my TIFs, but I've only got a
4.8 MB Index.dat. Anyway...

Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here is
the way...

"Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all
offline content, OK, OK"

That does a credible job, in IE6 anyway. Note: It may take a few
moments: DON"T be impatient. The Index.dat inside Content.IE5 will
retain it's size, but is cleared or reset to emptiness. You still will
see Cookies in the main TIF folder, but all the weirdly named folders in
Content.IE5 will be gone.

These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an
involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold
bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit.
Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's
size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings
button. Mine is set for 125 MB there. Many say to go smaller-- say, 40
MB.

If that fails to get them all, then...

Some Cookies bleed into TIFs, so... "START, Settings, Control Panel,
Internet Options, Delete Cookies button". (Note, some site specific
passwords/settings may be wiped.)

If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured with a
DOS delete...

Verify, in Windows, where these folders are located before proceeding.

(a) "START, Find, F/F".
(b) Enter "Cookies, Tempor~1, History" (no quotes) in "Named".
(c) Click the "Advanced" button, & use the dropdown to select
"Folder".
(d) Then click the "Find Now" button.
If it is not in "C:\Windows", adjust the Deltree's below. If you
have more than one of any, then perhaps stop & report back.
(c) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Settings button"
Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located? Use that
path below, but substitute "Tempor~1" for "Temporary Internet Files".

(1) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"

(2) SMARTDRV
This speeds up hard drive processing considerably in DOS--
considerably, & yet it may still seem slow if TIFs are incredibly huge!

(3) DELTREE C:\Windows\Cookies\ /y
These are your Cookies. They may hold settings & passwords, site
specific.

(4) DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
These are your Temporary Internet Files. A DOS delete does reset
the Index.dat in Content.IE5 to 32 KB. It won't stay that small for
long. However, Cookies in the top TIF folder would survive this Deltree.

(5) DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
This is a collection of the sites you have visited. It will begin
to grow again, depending upon "Days to keep..." at "Internet Options,
General tab".

(6) EXIT or Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows

WARNING: DELTREE is a powerful command. It will wipe out the folder you
specify. DO NOT HIT ENTER too soon, or you will wipe out your system.
Get all the way to the end of those DELTREE lines.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
...
| my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as
i'm
| running out of room
|
| tia macca

[Richard G. Harper]

The "Windows 98" tag is a bit outdated, actually there is neither a "Windows
98" or "Windows Me" MVP group any longer. We have been absorbed into the
"Shell/User"category of MVPs.

I suspect that Ron hangs on to it because of the fun times they have had
together in the past, or perhaps because he's a sentimentalist at heart.
When you've been around as long as he has ... ;-)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?

[C]

macca in oz wrote:

> my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as i'm
> running out of room
>
> tia macca

Worried about 15megs?? ... anyway, check this out:

http://sillydog.org/mshidden.html

[Gary S. Terhune]

I hung onto the Win98 label for as long as I could, but they kept
badgering me, and besides, I *am* going to get in on Longhorn (unless
it's *really* horrible.)

Besides, something about the term "Shell/User" appeals to my sense of
kink, <g>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Richard G. Harper" > wrote in message
...
> The "Windows 98" tag is a bit outdated, actually there is neither a
"Windows
> 98" or "Windows Me" MVP group any longer. We have been absorbed into
the
> "Shell/User"category of MVPs.
>
> I suspect that Ron hangs on to it because of the fun times they have
had
> together in the past, or perhaps because he's a sentimentalist at
heart.
> When you've been around as long as he has ... ;-)
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
>
>

[Dan]

I am sure Longhorn will be okay and that is why it keeps getting delayed so
Microsoft can hopefully iron out many of the bugs associated with it.

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
: I hung onto the Win98 label for as long as I could, but they kept
: badgering me, and besides, I *am* going to get in on Longhorn (unless
: it's *really* horrible.)
:
: Besides, something about the term "Shell/User" appeals to my sense of
: kink, <g>.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: "Security!"
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Richard G. Harper" > wrote in message
: ...
: > The "Windows 98" tag is a bit outdated, actually there is neither a
: "Windows
: > 98" or "Windows Me" MVP group any longer. We have been absorbed into
: the
: > "Shell/User"category of MVPs.
: >
: > I suspect that Ron hangs on to it because of the fun times they have
: had
: > together in the past, or perhaps because he's a sentimentalist at
: heart.
: > When you've been around as long as he has ... ;-)
: >
: > --
: > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
: > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
: > * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
: > * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
: > * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
: >
: >
: > "Dan" > wrote in message
: > ...
: > > Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
: >
: >
:

[jane]

> Worried about 15megs?? ... anyway, check this out:
>
> http://sillydog.org/mshidden.html

Hi,
I agree. I 'doctored' ini files using advice from sillydog ages ago,
never had a prob since. Plus I use ccleaner, the internet folder has
never been so sparkling since.

regard Jane

[Gary S. Terhune]

Well, maybe... But if I told you more, I'd have to chain you up in the
basement for a few years.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> I am sure Longhorn will be okay and that is why it keeps getting
delayed so
> Microsoft can hopefully iron out many of the bugs associated with it.
>

[PA Bear]

Kinky!

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Well, maybe... But if I told you more, I'd have to chain you up in the
> basement for a few years.
>
> > I am sure Longhorn will be okay and that is why it keeps getting
> > delayed so Microsoft can hopefully iron out many of the bugs associated
> > with it.

[Gary S. Terhune]

Seems to be the theme, today, <eg>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PA Bear" > wrote in message
...
> Kinky!
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> > Well, maybe... But if I told you more, I'd have to chain you up in
the
> > basement for a few years.
> >
> > > I am sure Longhorn will be okay and that is why it keeps getting
> > > delayed so Microsoft can hopefully iron out many of the bugs
associated
> > > with it.

[Dan]

That reminds me of the phrase "Too Many Secrets" from the 80's movie called
Sneakers with Robert Redford.

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
: Well, maybe... But if I told you more, I'd have to chain you up in the
: basement for a few years.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: "Security!"
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" > wrote in message
: ...
: > I am sure Longhorn will be okay and that is why it keeps getting
: delayed so
: > Microsoft can hopefully iron out many of the bugs associated with it.
: >
:

[Ron Badour]

Hi Dan,

No, but I was in the first group appointed as a W98 MVP. I was a W95 MVP
involved in beta testing W98 and when it got ready to launch, I was asked to
support W98 as my primary area. I also continued to support W95 until a
year or so ago.

Instead of being Shell Users, in the 90s we were DTS (desktop systems) MVPs.
I really didn't think most people asking for help would have a clue what a
Shell User is (or DTS for that matter) whereas W98 accurately describes the
area I support. So, until I am told to change it (I don't think that will
happen) or I quit supporting W98, my title will remain as is ;-)

By the way, what Richard said and I have not forgotten that he still owes me
a beer <G>.

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
>
> "Ron Badour" > wrote in message
> ...
> : In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the
> space
> : department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump
> various
> : data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
> : larger) hard drive.
> :
> : Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the
> temporary
> : internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from
> there--it
> : will be rebuilt by the system.
> :
> : --
> : Regards
> :
> : Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
> : Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
> : Knowledge Base Info:
> : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
> :
> : "macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as
> i'm
> : > running out of room
> : >
> : > tia macca
> :
> :
>
>

[Dan]

Thanks Ron. I for one like seeing the MS MVP Window 98 in your title. It
certainly brings back memories. Have an awesome day and take care!

"Ron Badour" > wrote in message
...
: Hi Dan,
:
: No, but I was in the first group appointed as a W98 MVP. I was a W95 MVP
: involved in beta testing W98 and when it got ready to launch, I was asked
to
: support W98 as my primary area. I also continued to support W95 until a
: year or so ago.
:
: Instead of being Shell Users, in the 90s we were DTS (desktop systems)
MVPs.
: I really didn't think most people asking for help would have a clue what a
: Shell User is (or DTS for that matter) whereas W98 accurately describes the
: area I support. So, until I am told to change it (I don't think that will
: happen) or I quit supporting W98, my title will remain as is ;-)
:
: By the way, what Richard said and I have not forgotten that he still owes
me
: a beer <G>.
:
: --
: Regards
:
: Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
: Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
: Knowledge Base Info:
: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
:
: "Dan" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
: >
: > "Ron Badour" > wrote in message
: > ...
: > : In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the
: > space
: > : department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump
: > various
: > : data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
: > : larger) hard drive.
: > :
: > : Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the
: > temporary
: > : internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from
: > there--it
: > : will be rebuilt by the system.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Regards
: > :
: > : Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
: > : Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
: > : Knowledge Base Info:
: > : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
: > :
: > : "macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
: > : ...
: > : > my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as
: > i'm
: > : > running out of room
: > : >
: > : > tia macca
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

[Richard G. Harper]

You know when and where you'll collect it, too. ;-)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Ron Badour" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dan,
>
> No, but I was in the first group appointed as a W98 MVP. I was a W95 MVP
> involved in beta testing W98 and when it got ready to launch, I was asked
> to support W98 as my primary area. I also continued to support W95 until
> a year or so ago.
>
> Instead of being Shell Users, in the 90s we were DTS (desktop systems)
> MVPs. I really didn't think most people asking for help would have a clue
> what a Shell User is (or DTS for that matter) whereas W98 accurately
> describes the area I support. So, until I am told to change it (I don't
> think that will happen) or I quit supporting W98, my title will remain as
> is ;-)
>
> By the way, what Richard said and I have not forgotten that he still owes
> me a beer <G>.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
> Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
> Knowledge Base Info:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
>
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
>>
>> "Ron Badour" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> : In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the
>> space
>> : department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump
>> various
>> : data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
>> : larger) hard drive.
>> :
>> : Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the
>> temporary
>> : internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from
>> there--it
>> : will be rebuilt by the system.
>> :
>> : --
>> : Regards
>> :
>> : Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
>> : Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
>> : Knowledge Base Info:
>> : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
>> :
>> : "macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it as
>> i'm
>> : > running out of room
>> : >
>> : > tia macca
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>

[Ron Badour]

The Magnificent Carnack says, What is Redmond in Sep? <G>

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Richard G. Harper" > wrote in message
...
> You know when and where you'll collect it, too. ;-)
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Ron Badour" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> No, but I was in the first group appointed as a W98 MVP. I was a W95 MVP
>> involved in beta testing W98 and when it got ready to launch, I was asked
>> to support W98 as my primary area. I also continued to support W95 until
>> a year or so ago.
>>
>> Instead of being Shell Users, in the 90s we were DTS (desktop systems)
>> MVPs. I really didn't think most people asking for help would have a clue
>> what a Shell User is (or DTS for that matter) whereas W98 accurately
>> describes the area I support. So, until I am told to change it (I don't
>> think that will happen) or I quit supporting W98, my title will remain as
>> is ;-)
>>
>> By the way, what Richard said and I have not forgotten that he still owes
>> me a beer <G>.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
>> Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
>> Knowledge Base Info:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
>>
>> "Dan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ron, I was just wondering are you the last Windows 98 MVP?
>>>
>>> "Ron Badour" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> : In the big scheme of things, 15 mb is not really going to help in the
>>> space
>>> : department. You really need to uninstall unneeded software, dump
>>> various
>>> : data to CDs and then delete it from the hard drive or buy another (or
>>> : larger) hard drive.
>>> :
>>> : Assuming that the index.dat file you are referring to is in the
>>> temporary
>>> : internet file folder, you can boot to DOS and delete the file from
>>> there--it
>>> : will be rebuilt by the system.
>>> :
>>> : --
>>> : Regards
>>> :
>>> : Ron Badour, MS MVP Windows 98
>>> : Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
>>> : Knowledge Base Info:
>>> : http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
>>> :
>>> : "macca in oz" <macca in > wrote in message
>>> : ...
>>> : > my index.dat file is 15 meg ++ and rising, please help me empty it
>>> as i'm
>>> : > running out of room
>>> : >
>>> : > tia macca
>>> :
>>> :
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>