Upgrade recomendation please.

[Rodney]

I am about to do an upgrade.
I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
use the computer for work, no gaming.

Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
I can price.
Thanks

[Hugh Candlin]

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
>
> I am about to do an upgrade.
> I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
> use the computer for work, no gaming.
>
> Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
> I can price.
> Thanks

http://www.motherboards.org/

Best Motherboard Manufacturer? Asus, by a landslide.

http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050201/readers_choice-02.html#motherboards_amp_chipsets

[John]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:38:52 +0800, "Rodney" > wrote:

>
>I am about to do an upgrade.
>I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
>use the computer for work, no gaming.
>
>Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
>I can price.
>Thanks
>
>
I've got a 2-year old machine with an ASUS CUV4X-C motherboard.
Run W98SE - 800 megahertz Intel Pentium III - 384 Megabytes Installed Memory
Two HD's (C: 20 gig, D: 40 gig)
Use Ad_Aware and Spybot, along with Mailwasher Pro.
Together with the hardware firewall in the D-Link DI-604 router, I've had no
problem whatsoever with any trojans, viri (sp?) malware or any of that stuff.

Runs sweet - solid as a rock !

My 2 ¢ (maybe 5 ¢, considering inflation) worth. . . .

John <><

[Rodney]

Thank you Hugh,
Asus it shall be then. :)



| http://www.motherboards.org/
|
| Best Motherboard Manufacturer? Asus, by a landslide.
|
| http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050201/readers_choice-02.html#motherboards_amp_chipsets
|
|
|

[Rodney]

G'day John,

We are nearly two peas in a pod. :)
My system is very close, only I have been advised I cannot upgrade the
chip on the present MB, hence my desire for something a little faster.

If I crawl to my wife on hands and knees, she may allow me a
removable tray for my 120 Gb External HDD too.

My vote for this years "Cannot do without" software would be "Mailwasher"
and "Cookie Wall" both free, and both fantastic.

In fact it is my new years resolution to register "Mailwasher"

Thanks for the comments

My system is........(C/- "Belarc advisor)

Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) No details available
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
367 megahertz Intel Celeron
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
128 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. CUV4X REV 1.xx
Bus Clock: 67 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS CUV4X ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 06/19/2000
Drives Memory Modules c,d
46.44 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
31.84 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

LG CD-ROM CRD-8522B
MAT****A CD-R CW-7582 [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

ST36421A [Hard drive] (6.45 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 3BE0GDXJ, rev 8.01, SMART Status: Healthy
WDC WD400JB-00ENA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WCAD18816095, rev 05.03E05, SMART Status: Healthy 384
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM 1' has 128 MB
Slot 'DIMM 2' has 256 MB
Slot 'DIMM 3' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes

c: (on drive 0) 6.44 GB 1.36 GB free
d: (on drive 1) 40.01 GB 30.48 GB free

Network Drives



| I've got a 2-year old machine with an ASUS CUV4X-C motherboard.
| Run W98SE - 800 megahertz Intel Pentium III - 384 Megabytes Installed Memory
| Two HD's (C: 20 gig, D: 40 gig)
| Use Ad_Aware and Spybot, along with Mailwasher Pro.
| Together with the hardware firewall in the D-Link DI-604 router, I've had no
| problem whatsoever with any trojans, viri (sp?) malware or any of that stuff.
|
| Runs sweet - solid as a rock !
|
| My 2 ¢ (maybe 5 ¢, considering inflation) worth. . . .
|
| John <><
|
|

[Dan]

Rodney, I would make sure that you don't get something that 98SE cannot
support. I think Gary Terhune has mentioned that a few of the newer hardware
technologies are not supported on 98SE. I am not sure which these are and
will let Gary Terhune comment since he knows a lot more than me in this area
and in a majority of areas involving pcs of course. :>

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: G'day John,
:
: We are nearly two peas in a pod. :)
: My system is very close, only I have been advised I cannot upgrade the
: chip on the present MB, hence my desire for something a little faster.
:
: If I crawl to my wife on hands and knees, she may allow me a
: removable tray for my 120 Gb External HDD too.
:
: My vote for this years "Cannot do without" software would be "Mailwasher"
: and "Cookie Wall" both free, and both fantastic.
:
: In fact it is my new years resolution to register "Mailwasher"
:
: Thanks for the comments
:
: My system is........(C/- "Belarc advisor)
:
: Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) No details available
: Processor a Main Circuit Board b
: 367 megahertz Intel Celeron
: 32 kilobyte primary memory cache
: 128 kilobyte secondary memory cache
: Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. CUV4X REV 1.xx
: Bus Clock: 67 megahertz
: BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS CUV4X ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 06/19/2000
: Drives Memory Modules c,d
: 46.44 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
: 31.84 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
:
: LG CD-ROM CRD-8522B
: MAT****A CD-R CW-7582 [CD-ROM drive]
: Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
:
: ST36421A [Hard drive] (6.45 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 3BE0GDXJ, rev 8.01, SMART
Status: Healthy
: WDC WD400JB-00ENA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WCAD18816095,
rev 05.03E05, SMART Status: Healthy 384
: Megabytes Installed Memory
:
: Slot 'DIMM 1' has 128 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 2' has 256 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 3' is Empty
: Local Drive Volumes
:
: c: (on drive 0) 6.44 GB 1.36 GB free
: d: (on drive 1) 40.01 GB 30.48 GB free
:
: Network Drives
:
:
:
: | I've got a 2-year old machine with an ASUS CUV4X-C motherboard.
: | Run W98SE - 800 megahertz Intel Pentium III - 384 Megabytes Installed
Memory
: | Two HD's (C: 20 gig, D: 40 gig)
: | Use Ad_Aware and Spybot, along with Mailwasher Pro.
: | Together with the hardware firewall in the D-Link DI-604 router, I've had
no
: | problem whatsoever with any trojans, viri (sp?) malware or any of that
stuff.
: |
: | Runs sweet - solid as a rock !
: |
: | My 2 ¢ (maybe 5 ¢, considering inflation) worth. . . .
: |
: | John <><
: |
: |
:
:

[Lil' Dave]

If you get a more current P4 or Celeron cpu, locate the WinME version of
ndis.vxd file and save it for the new install on the new motherboard.
You'll need it. Do this now, first, pronto.

I'd suggest a cpu/mobo combo, but you failed to mention what you are doing
for work. You might need the number crunching of P4, or not which means a
Celeron. Go the max 512 MB of RAM. And, you failed to mention if you want
to move a video card and/or sound card and/or LAN card and/or USB card, buy
another, or use onboard mobo, do you want firewire, SATA or PATA hard drive,
RAID, etc, etc, etc. These are key elements in mobo selection nowadays.
P4 mobos require a different power supply connection on the motherboard.
"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
>
> I am about to do an upgrade.
> I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
> use the computer for work, no gaming.
>
> Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
> I can price.
> Thanks
>
>
>

[jane]

> http://www.motherboards.org/
>
> Best Motherboard Manufacturer? Asus, by a landslide.
>
>
http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050201/readers_choice-02.html#motherb
oards_amp_chipsets


Hello Hugh,
Now that you have mentioned 'Asus by a landslide', would
you mind if I asked you what you would recommend as
2nd & 3rd if you couldnt get an Asus?
Its strictly a census type of thing on my part,
and naturally I am curious to see if mine comes
into mention,; naturally I cant say what mine is until
I hear your votes.

Thanks

regards Jane

[Rodney]

Thank you Dan,
I'll request Asus and let the tech install the
best model that supports W98se.
The thought had crossed my mind regarding
the ability of some programs and high chip speeds,
but I put them in the "too hard " bin.
Old MSWorks Ver4.5a is about the oldest program I use.
Cheers


"Dan" > wrote in message ...
| Rodney, I would make sure that you don't get something that 98SE cannot
| support. I think Gary Terhune has mentioned that a few of the newer hardware
| technologies are not supported on 98SE. I am not sure which these are and
| will let Gary Terhune comment since he knows a lot more than me in this area
| and in a majority of areas involving pcs of course. :>
|

[Rodney]

Ouch!
I understand very little of your possible sage advice.

I have a Visual FoxPro Database that is handled
well with my current "clunker", so that's no problem.
I have a USB card already installed
I will install a video card, but <Only> to allow Teletext Capture
No movies or TV.

I use the box for medium number crunching in Excel
but nothing too sophisticated

Cheers.



"Lil' Dave" > wrote in message ...
| If you get a more current P4 or Celeron cpu, locate the WinME version of
| ndis.vxd file and save it for the new install on the new motherboard.
| You'll need it. Do this now, first, pronto.
|
| I'd suggest a cpu/mobo combo, but you failed to mention what you are doing
| for work. You might need the number crunching of P4, or not which means a
| Celeron. Go the max 512 MB of RAM. And, you failed to mention if you want
| to move a video card and/or sound card and/or LAN card and/or USB card, buy
| another, or use onboard mobo, do you want firewire, SATA or PATA hard drive,
| RAID, etc, etc, etc. These are key elements in mobo selection nowadays.
| P4 mobos require a different power supply connection on the motherboard.
| "Rodney" > wrote in message
| ...
| >
| > I am about to do an upgrade.
| > I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
| > use the computer for work, no gaming.
| >
| > Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
| > I can price.
| > Thanks
| >
| >
| >
|
|

[Dan]

I really like ASUS MB's as well. Why can't you get as ASUS MB jane?

"jane" > wrote in message
...
: > http://www.motherboards.org/
: >
: > Best Motherboard Manufacturer? Asus, by a landslide.
: >
: >
:
http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050201/readers_choice-02.html#motherb
: oards_amp_chipsets
:
:
: Hello Hugh,
: Now that you have mentioned 'Asus by a landslide', would
: you mind if I asked you what you would recommend as
: 2nd & 3rd if you couldnt get an Asus?
: Its strictly a census type of thing on my part,
: and naturally I am curious to see if mine comes
: into mention,; naturally I cant say what mine is until
: I hear your votes.
:
: Thanks
:
: regards Jane
:
:

[Dan]

Rodney, please post back here what the ASUS tech. suggests and we can give
you more feedback and thus save you the heartache of having a poorly
configured machine. Lil' Dave has some really good points. Also, are you
planning to dual-boot with 98SE and XPPRO as I have done? Will you use 98SE
in Fat32 and XP PRO in NTFS as I have done? You need to make sure that you
have a strong enough power supply for your updated (new?) PC and also I would
suggest an uniteruptable power supply which I use. (UPS)

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: Ouch!
: I understand very little of your possible sage advice.
:
: I have a Visual FoxPro Database that is handled
: well with my current "clunker", so that's no problem.
: I have a USB card already installed
: I will install a video card, but <Only> to allow Teletext Capture
: No movies or TV.
:
: I use the box for medium number crunching in Excel
: but nothing too sophisticated
:
: Cheers.
:
:
:
: "Lil' Dave" > wrote in message
...
: | If you get a more current P4 or Celeron cpu, locate the WinME version of
: | ndis.vxd file and save it for the new install on the new motherboard.
: | You'll need it. Do this now, first, pronto.
: |
: | I'd suggest a cpu/mobo combo, but you failed to mention what you are
doing
: | for work. You might need the number crunching of P4, or not which means
a
: | Celeron. Go the max 512 MB of RAM. And, you failed to mention if you
want
: | to move a video card and/or sound card and/or LAN card and/or USB card,
buy
: | another, or use onboard mobo, do you want firewire, SATA or PATA hard
drive,
: | RAID, etc, etc, etc. These are key elements in mobo selection nowadays.
: | P4 mobos require a different power supply connection on the motherboard.
: | "Rodney" > wrote in message
: | ...
: | >
: | > I am about to do an upgrade.
: | > I wish to remain with Win98se, and just
: | > use the computer for work, no gaming.
: | >
: | > Can someone please recommend a suitable Motherboard and Chip
: | > I can price.
: | > Thanks
: | >
: | >
: | >
: |
: |
:
:

[Hugh Candlin]

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
>
> We are nearly two peas in a pod. :)
> My system is very close, only I have been advised I cannot upgrade the
> chip on the present MB, hence my desire for something a little faster.

A new mobo and CPU isn't going to please you
if all you want to do is a little word processing
and spreadsheet crunching and webcrawling.

A 286 is a perfectly adequate word processor,
but now rendered obsolete as far as its capability
of running recent versions of Winword is concerned.

You have more than enough firepower for surfing also.

[Hugh Candlin]

"jane" > wrote in message
...
> > http://www.motherboards.org/
> >
> > Best Motherboard Manufacturer? Asus, by a landslide.
> >
> >
>
http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050201/readers_choice-02.html#motherb
> oards_amp_chipsets
>
>
> Hello Hugh,
> Now that you have mentioned 'Asus by a landslide', would
> you mind if I asked you what you would recommend as
> 2nd & 3rd if you couldnt get an Asus?

Intel if rock-solid reliability is your numero uno desire.
Abit if you want to overclock it until the steam rises.

With that said, it should be treated as a general guideline.
Some lesser known manufacturers can come up with
a gem that I may never find out about, and some of the
ones I mentioned may trot out a turkey now and then.
Intel has had a couple of snafus in that regard.

> Its strictly a census type of thing on my part,
> and naturally I am curious to see if mine comes
> into mention,; naturally I cant say what mine is until
> I hear your votes.
>
> Thanks
>
> regards Jane
>
>

[Rodney]

Hello Hugh,
the main reason for upgrade is <simply> to be able
to fit a new video card, which will allow Videotext capture,
that's all.

As a side issue, I have a 5 million record database,
and to do a subset each Friday night takes some
4-6 minutes. I was hoping the new chip would offer
some improvement there.

I gotta say, I have been seduced by seeing the speed
at which some computers in shops execute commands.
Sometimes when saving Works files, mine takes 1-2 seconds.
(which is probably a software issue anyhows)

Best Regards.




| A new mobo and CPU isn't going to please you
| if all you want to do is a little word processing
| and spreadsheet crunching and webcrawling.
|
| A 286 is a perfectly adequate word processor,
| but now rendered obsolete as far as its capability
| of running recent versions of Winword is concerned.
|
| You have more than enough firepower for surfing also.
|
|

[Rodney]

Dan,
You're interest and concern is infectious :)
I shall post back, I am sure everything will be OK.
I don't expect much and am happy being in the comfortable
surrounds of familiar software.

I dislike in the extreme XP and all it's offspring,
Win98se is as comfortable as my pipe and slippers.
(In fact I am intending to have my set-up interred when
I get lumped in the pine box :)


"Dan" > wrote in message ...
| Rodney, please post back here what the ASUS tech. suggests and we can give
| you more feedback and thus save you the heartache of having a poorly
| configured machine. Lil' Dave has some really good points. Also, are you
| planning to dual-boot with 98SE and XPPRO as I have done? Will you use 98SE
| in Fat32 and XP PRO in NTFS as I have done? You need to make sure that you
| have a strong enough power supply for your updated (new?) PC and also I would
| suggest an uniteruptable power supply which I use. (UPS)

[Dan]

:> Welcome to the 9x fan club, Rodney. (Dan, PCR and Bill in Co. and now
you so far) <g>

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: Dan,
: You're interest and concern is infectious :)
: I shall post back, I am sure everything will be OK.
: I don't expect much and am happy being in the comfortable
: surrounds of familiar software.
:
: I dislike in the extreme XP and all it's offspring,
: Win98se is as comfortable as my pipe and slippers.
: (In fact I am intending to have my set-up interred when
: I get lumped in the pine box :)
:
:
: "Dan" > wrote in message
...
: | Rodney, please post back here what the ASUS tech. suggests and we can
give
: | you more feedback and thus save you the heartache of having a poorly
: | configured machine. Lil' Dave has some really good points. Also, are
you
: | planning to dual-boot with 98SE and XPPRO as I have done? Will you use
98SE
: | in Fat32 and XP PRO in NTFS as I have done? You need to make sure that
you
: | have a strong enough power supply for your updated (new?) PC and also I
would
: | suggest an uniteruptable power supply which I use. (UPS)
:
:
:

[John]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:54:28 -0700, "Dan" > wrote:

>:> Welcome to the 9x fan club, Rodney. (Dan, PCR and Bill in Co. and now
>you so far) <g>
>
Hey, what about me? (-:

John <><

[Rodney]

Sorry,
your dues have apparently lapsed.
If you wish to renew your membership,
please forward you next months paypacket
to the above email address.

Thank you.
Secretary,
W98se aficionados collective.



| Hey, what about me? (-:
|
| John <><

[Dee Fick]

All my replies cause an error in OE, have any ideas why?
Dee
"Dan" > wrote in message ...
Rodney, I would make sure that you don't get something that 98SE cannot
support. I think Gary Terhune has mentioned that a few of the newer hardware
technologies are not supported on 98SE. I am not sure which these are and
will let Gary Terhune comment since he knows a lot more than me in this area
and in a majority of areas involving pcs of course. :>

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: G'day John,
:
: We are nearly two peas in a pod. :)
: My system is very close, only I have been advised I cannot upgrade the
: chip on the present MB, hence my desire for something a little faster.
:
: If I crawl to my wife on hands and knees, she may allow me a
: removable tray for my 120 Gb External HDD too.
:
: My vote for this years "Cannot do without" software would be "Mailwasher"
: and "Cookie Wall" both free, and both fantastic.
:
: In fact it is my new years resolution to register "Mailwasher"
:
: Thanks for the comments
:
: My system is........(C/- "Belarc advisor)
:
: Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) No details available
: Processor a Main Circuit Board b
: 367 megahertz Intel Celeron
: 32 kilobyte primary memory cache
: 128 kilobyte secondary memory cache
: Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. CUV4X REV 1.xx
: Bus Clock: 67 megahertz
: BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS CUV4X ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 06/19/2000
: Drives Memory Modules c,d
: 46.44 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
: 31.84 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
:
: LG CD-ROM CRD-8522B
: MAT****A CD-R CW-7582 [CD-ROM drive]
: Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
:
: ST36421A [Hard drive] (6.45 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 3BE0GDXJ, rev 8.01, SMART
Status: Healthy
: WDC WD400JB-00ENA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WCAD18816095,
rev 05.03E05, SMART Status: Healthy 384
: Megabytes Installed Memory
:
: Slot 'DIMM 1' has 128 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 2' has 256 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 3' is Empty
: Local Drive Volumes
:
: c: (on drive 0) 6.44 GB 1.36 GB free
: d: (on drive 1) 40.01 GB 30.48 GB free
:
: Network Drives
:
:
:
: | I've got a 2-year old machine with an ASUS CUV4X-C motherboard.
: | Run W98SE - 800 megahertz Intel Pentium III - 384 Megabytes Installed
Memory
: | Two HD's (C: 20 gig, D: 40 gig)
: | Use Ad_Aware and Spybot, along with Mailwasher Pro.
: | Together with the hardware firewall in the D-Link DI-604 router, I've had
no
: | problem whatsoever with any trojans, viri (sp?) malware or any of that
stuff.
: |
: | Runs sweet - solid as a rock !
: |
: | My 2 ¢ (maybe 5 ¢, considering inflation) worth. . . .
: |
: | John <><
: |
: |
:
:

[Dan]

Please start a new thread on your problem, Dee so we can help you and provide
all relevant information.

"Dee Fick" > wrote in message
...
All my replies cause an error in OE, have any ideas why?
Dee
"Dan" > wrote in message
...
Rodney, I would make sure that you don't get something that 98SE cannot
support. I think Gary Terhune has mentioned that a few of the newer
hardware
technologies are not supported on 98SE. I am not sure which these are and
will let Gary Terhune comment since he knows a lot more than me in this
area
and in a majority of areas involving pcs of course. :>

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: G'day John,
:
: We are nearly two peas in a pod. :)
: My system is very close, only I have been advised I cannot upgrade the
: chip on the present MB, hence my desire for something a little faster.
:
: If I crawl to my wife on hands and knees, she may allow me a
: removable tray for my 120 Gb External HDD too.
:
: My vote for this years "Cannot do without" software would be "Mailwasher"
: and "Cookie Wall" both free, and both fantastic.
:
: In fact it is my new years resolution to register "Mailwasher"
:
: Thanks for the comments
:
: My system is........(C/- "Belarc advisor)
:
: Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) No details available
: Processor a Main Circuit Board b
: 367 megahertz Intel Celeron
: 32 kilobyte primary memory cache
: 128 kilobyte secondary memory cache
: Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. CUV4X REV 1.xx
: Bus Clock: 67 megahertz
: BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS CUV4X ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 06/19/2000
: Drives Memory Modules c,d
: 46.44 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
: 31.84 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
:
: LG CD-ROM CRD-8522B
: MAT****A CD-R CW-7582 [CD-ROM drive]
: Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
:
: ST36421A [Hard drive] (6.45 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 3BE0GDXJ, rev 8.01, SMART
Status: Healthy
: WDC WD400JB-00ENA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
WD-WCAD18816095,
rev 05.03E05, SMART Status: Healthy 384
: Megabytes Installed Memory
:
: Slot 'DIMM 1' has 128 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 2' has 256 MB
: Slot 'DIMM 3' is Empty
: Local Drive Volumes
:
: c: (on drive 0) 6.44 GB 1.36 GB free
: d: (on drive 1) 40.01 GB 30.48 GB free
:
: Network Drives
:
:
:
: | I've got a 2-year old machine with an ASUS CUV4X-C motherboard.
: | Run W98SE - 800 megahertz Intel Pentium III - 384 Megabytes Installed
Memory
: | Two HD's (C: 20 gig, D: 40 gig)
: | Use Ad_Aware and Spybot, along with Mailwasher Pro.
: | Together with the hardware firewall in the D-Link DI-604 router, I've
had
no
: | problem whatsoever with any trojans, viri (sp?) malware or any of that
stuff.
: |
: | Runs sweet - solid as a rock !
: |
: | My 2 ¢ (maybe 5 ¢, considering inflation) worth. . . .
: |
: | John <><
: |
: |
:
:

[Dan]

LOL!!

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
: Sorry,
: your dues have apparently lapsed.
: If you wish to renew your membership,
: please forward you next months paypacket
: to the above email address.
:
: Thank you.
: Secretary,
: W98se aficionados collective.
:
:
:
: | Hey, what about me? (-:
: |
: | John <><
:
: