OT - All quiet on the Win ME Front?

[siljaline]

PING <g>

Silj

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[heirloom]

Quiet here.......I've been painting and now down in the back, rrrrrrrrrrrr.
Gonna hire out the rest of it. You just do too good of work
silj........everyone is in great shape!
Heirloom, old and owe the gurus

"siljaline" > wrote in message
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> PING <g>
>
> Silj
>
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> siljaline
>
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>
>

[Joan Archer]

And hello to you too Silj. <g> I'm still here but things are quiet even
I don't get the chance to give any help <g>
Joan

siljaline wrote:
> PING <g>
> Silj
>

[Noel Paton]

<waving>
Me too!!

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"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> And hello to you too Silj. <g> I'm still here but things are quiet even I
> don't get the chance to give any help <g>
> Joan
>
> siljaline wrote:
>> PING <g>
>> Silj
>>

[Rick T]

"siljaline" > wrote in news:#I5SZLEAFHA.2704
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> PING <g>
>
> Silj
>

<yawn>... mornin'


Rick

[Noel Paton]

wrong again!<g> - your message timed at 12:52 p.m. here!


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"Rick T" > wrote in message
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> "siljaline" > wrote in news:#I5SZLEAFHA.2704
> @TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
>> PING <g>
>>
>> Silj
>>
>
> <yawn>... mornin'
>
>
> Rick

[Rick T]

"Noel Paton" > wrote in
:

> wrong again!<g> - your message timed at 12:52 p.m. here!
>
>

your previous message in this thread clocks in at about 1am your time....
local close early ? (The only pub within walking distance here chucks
everyboy out at 11pm... horrible <g>)

[Noel Paton]

I got back from a 'service call' at 11:30 last night - just after my local
had locked the doors :(
the 'Me Too' message, you mean? - that was 10:48 a.m. my time (GMT)

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"Rick T" > wrote in message
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> "Noel Paton" > wrote in
> :
>
>> wrong again!<g> - your message timed at 12:52 p.m. here!
>>
>>
>
> your previous message in this thread clocks in at about 1am your time....
> local close early ? (The only pub within walking distance here chucks
> everyboy out at 11pm... horrible <g>)

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:22:42 +0000, Joan Archer >
wrote:

>And hello to you too Silj. <g> I'm still here but things are quiet even
>I don't get the chance to give any help <g>
>Joan
>

If you are all feeling so bored how about some wild guesses as to what
could be wrong in my system here.
I would appreciate any help at all as things are getting impossible

Original post follows:

> Subject: Fresh install of WinMe has become sluggish, among other things, trying to "play" the NOTIFY/Chord/etc.WAVs

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:20:41 -0200, wrote:

>I fresh-installed WinMe about a week or so ago.
>
>Obviously since then I've been installing software packages - on a "as
>needed" basis.
>
>A couple of days ago the system started to become sluggish.
>
>The most noticable symptom is when I do something that requires
>Windows to sound a NOTIFY.WAV or similar sound - the system freezes
>(mouse ans keyboard inoperative) for up to 5 seconds before giving the
>"click", "dung", or whatever when everything springs to life again.
>
>Repeating the action, or some other action immediately the sound is
>immedaite again - but leave it for a few seconds and it's back to
>sluggy agaiin.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks for any suggestions - however wild :-)

[Mart]

Not Joan, but Mart

Two things Paulo! - As you 'appear' to have been quite methodical in
introducing software packages, can you think of which was the last one ("a
couple of days ago") BEFORE the system went "sluggish". Might be worth a
System Restore and roll back to that point UNLESS you installed quite a bit
since then. (N.B. - if you do try SR, then you will probably have to
re-install your 'later' packages.)

Also, as you 'appear' to suggest that you think the problem is 'sound card
related' - i.e. that .WAV files cause the problem - you should consider
'Removing' and re-installing your Sound Card drivers. - But do this in
Device Manager in SAFE MODE.

HTH

Mart




> wrote in message
news:1106491843.00d2a8747570f67e2fd50e79c3b1fa77@t eranews...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:22:42 +0000, Joan Archer >
> wrote:
>
>>And hello to you too Silj. <g> I'm still here but things are quiet even
>>I don't get the chance to give any help <g>
>>Joan
>>
>
> If you are all feeling so bored how about some wild guesses as to what
> could be wrong in my system here.
> I would appreciate any help at all as things are getting impossible
>
> Original post follows:
>
>> Subject: Fresh install of WinMe has become sluggish, among other things,
>> trying to "play" the NOTIFY/Chord/etc.WAVs
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:20:41 -0200, wrote:
>
>>I fresh-installed WinMe about a week or so ago.
>>
>>Obviously since then I've been installing software packages - on a "as
>>needed" basis.
>>
>>A couple of days ago the system started to become sluggish.
>>
>>The most noticable symptom is when I do something that requires
>>Windows to sound a NOTIFY.WAV or similar sound - the system freezes
>>(mouse ans keyboard inoperative) for up to 5 seconds before giving the
>>"click", "dung", or whatever when everything springs to life again.
>>
>>Repeating the action, or some other action immediately the sound is
>>immedaite again - but leave it for a few seconds and it's back to
>>sluggy agaiin.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks for any suggestions - however wild :-)
>

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:39:00 -0000, "Mart" >
wrote:

>Not Joan, but Mart
>
>Two things Paulo! - As you 'appear' to have been quite methodical in
>introducing software packages, can you think of which was the last one ("a
>couple of days ago") BEFORE the system went "sluggish". Might be worth a
>System Restore and roll back to that point UNLESS you installed quite a bit
>since then. (N.B. - if you do try SR, then you will probably have to
>re-install your 'later' packages.)
>
>Also, as you 'appear' to suggest that you think the problem is 'sound card
>related' - i.e. that .WAV files cause the problem - you should consider
>'Removing' and re-installing your Sound Card drivers. - But do this in
>Device Manager in SAFE MODE.
>
>HTH
>
>Mart
>
Thank you, Mart
I'll try your suggestion about sound card drivers.
The SR solution is on as I really can't remember WHEN it started and
what I had installed just before.
It ("the problem") was something that went creeping up on me slowly.
Certainly the sound card drivers is worth a shot.
Now where did I get those drivers from?
Cos I remember that the drivers on the Motherboard CD-ROM (on-board
sound) didn't work - no MP3 sound.
And HOW am I going to UNinstall them?
This is going to take a bit of working out.
I'll post a message to you when I've tried out this sound card thingy.

Thanks for your suggestion

Have one on me - whatever you fancy ;-)

Cheers

--
Paulo
Up in the mountains about 250km west of Rio

[Noel Paton]

Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
Remove ALL error-flagged devices
Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
hopefully curing your problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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> wrote in message
news:1106503157.7bfd0cca2149bcfb04991c475160186c@t eranews...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:39:00 -0000, "Mart" >
> wrote:
>
>>Not Joan, but Mart
>>
>>Two things Paulo! - As you 'appear' to have been quite methodical in
>>introducing software packages, can you think of which was the last one ("a
>>couple of days ago") BEFORE the system went "sluggish". Might be worth a
>>System Restore and roll back to that point UNLESS you installed quite a
>>bit
>>since then. (N.B. - if you do try SR, then you will probably have to
>>re-install your 'later' packages.)
>>
>>Also, as you 'appear' to suggest that you think the problem is 'sound card
>>related' - i.e. that .WAV files cause the problem - you should consider
>>'Removing' and re-installing your Sound Card drivers. - But do this in
>>Device Manager in SAFE MODE.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Mart
>>
> Thank you, Mart
> I'll try your suggestion about sound card drivers.
> The SR solution is on as I really can't remember WHEN it started and
> what I had installed just before.
> It ("the problem") was something that went creeping up on me slowly.
> Certainly the sound card drivers is worth a shot.
> Now where did I get those drivers from?
> Cos I remember that the drivers on the Motherboard CD-ROM (on-board
> sound) didn't work - no MP3 sound.
> And HOW am I going to UNinstall them?
> This is going to take a bit of working out.
> I'll post a message to you when I've tried out this sound card thingy.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion
>
> Have one on me - whatever you fancy ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Paulo
> Up in the mountains about 250km west of Rio

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:20:08 -0000, "Noel Paton"
> wrote:

>Reboot to Safe Mode
>Open Device Manager
>Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
>Remove ALL error-flagged devices
>Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
>Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
>hopefully curing your problem.

Thanks very much, Noel!

Just a question:
Won't this JUST remove the device entries from Device Manager?
When I restart in normal mode won't he (or is Windows a "she"?) just
reinstall the same driver programs?
Or is this what you are suggesting?
And, if so, how will this make a difference?
Stupid question?
Well, one can but ask ... even stupid questions!

Thanks anyway for the step-by-step
Much Appreciated
--
Paulo

[Rick T]

wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:20:08 -0000, "Noel Paton"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Reboot to Safe Mode
>>Open Device Manager
>>Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
>>Remove ALL error-flagged devices
>>Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
>>Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
>>hopefully curing your problem.

would suggest Uninstalling any software (if any) that was bundled with
your sound system.

> When I restart in normal mode won't he (or is Windows a "she"?) just

a "bitch" occasionally to be sure, but "it" seems proper.

> reinstall the same driver programs?

That's the point; something seems to have kicked over your sound system
cart. Re-installing drivers may be an easy way to right it.

If it doesn't work, take a closer look at stuff, I'd suggest opening
TaskManager <Ctrl-Alt-Del> and start kicking stuff out until you get
your sound back (umm... you can leave explorer and systray alone); next
have you recently installed a multimedia player of some sort.


Rick
bets on either Creative trying to take over the world or something weird
trying to play .wavs

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:52:09 -0500, Rick T
> wrote:

wrote:

>> When I restart in normal mode won't he (or is Windows a "she"?) just
>
>a "bitch" occasionally to be sure, but "it" seems proper.
>
Of course! IT! My apologies - a slip of the English tongue.

>> reinstall the same driver programs?
>
>That's the point; something seems to have kicked over your sound system
>cart. Re-installing drivers may be an easy way to right it.
>
Understood

>If it doesn't work, take a closer look at stuff, I'd suggest opening
>TaskManager <Ctrl-Alt-Del> and start kicking stuff out until you get
>your sound back (umm... you can leave explorer and systray alone); next
>have you recently installed a multimedia player of some sort.
>
I'll try the 3 finger kick out you suggest.
DIVX 502 bundle?
>
>Rick
>bets on either Creative trying to take over the world or something weird
>trying to play .wavs

Well, it's me that's trying to play the WAVs, and I'm not THAT normal,
but weird....? ;-)

Thanks Rick
--
Paulo
- just 12 days to Carnaval!

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:52:09 -0500, Rick T
> wrote:


>That's the point; something seems to have kicked over your sound system
>cart. Re-installing drivers may be an easy way to right it.
>

Something? - A whole cart-full of devices in the sound section of
device manager that have no right to be there!

"BDA"-this, "BDA"-that, "Microsoft"-this, "Microsoft"-that - around 15
devices THAT WERE NOT THERE AFTER THE FRESH INSTALL!

Suspect: DivX Bundle 502

I removed EVERYTHING from the sound section - including the C-Media
devices for the on-board sound and let Windows sort itself out on
reboot.
Now I'm back with just the 4 devices that I had before...

....and, guess what?!...

.... the problem has disappeared!

Many thanks to all concerned for the help!

Valeu, bicho! (It was worthwhile, man)

Ta-ta for now (until the next problem ;-)

Yours thankfully

--
Paulo
- 10 days to carnaval!