Changing to Windows XP Pro.

[ccmtmc]

I'm in the process of changing to winxp pro. and would
like to know if thats what I need. I'm recovering from
depression from contracting Parkinsons and losing
everything in my life for the past couple years.

I started out by rebuilding or building a computer which
was not easy. It's helped me ask questions which I've not
been very good at. So, there's the background.

My computer is modest. 2600 AMD on an A7N8X ASUS mb w/
512 ddr and 80gb hd. Two disk drives CDRW and DVD/CDRW
combo. Video & sound cards.

I have no $. Do I qualify for acdemic products to retrain
myself? And, what xp version is best for a home base bus?
I have priced some stuff thru Newegg and is there a even
lower price location that you might suggest? Any help or
referrals is appreciated.

Chuck

[Jack E Martinelli]

I would characterize your hardware as far from "modest", but, instead, near
the top of the AMD 32- vs. 64-bit world. The Asus A7N8X is superb and
several versions exist. Read the fine print silkscreened onto the mainboard
near the main logo. Read the Asus site for more info.
If the one HD is SATA, more the better. Ditto, if the AMD cpu is a
"Barton". Any new money should go for 256 or 512 MB of additional memory,
if possible, for XP. Be sure to match the memory speed.
Your next challenge is to obtain legally a copy of XP for installation.
Perhaps someone owes you a favor ...

Cf., www.anandtech.com
www.tomshardware.com


If you only expect to run a stand-alone, home system, then XP home is very
adequate.
Newegg.com is perhaps my preferred internet retailer, followed by
Microcenter, Tigerdirect, and CompUSA.
Amazon.com has many affiliated computer-related retailers, and
www.pricewatch.com can be very useful to the knowledgeable purchaser.
Other shopping bots exist.
Post your more specific requests about your computer-related needs here for
better suggestions.
-------

"XP ..., Do I Want It?

XP Compatibility Checker
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
Attn to dial-up users: ~ 32 - 50 MB !!

Choosing XP version
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Upgrading
http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/matrix.asp

----
Top 10 Reasons for IT Pros to move to Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/whyupgrade/itprotop10.asp

Windows XP Professional Comparison Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/whyupgrade/featurecomp.asp
----

"Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows is dedicated to providing all of the
information you need
to evaluate Microsoft's upcoming Windows operating system technologies."
http://www.winsupersite.com/

WHICH WINDOWS DO I CHOOSE?
http://www.aumha.org/a/whichwin.htm

Upgrading to WINDOWS XP
HOME EDITION or PROFESSIONAL
Version 3.8 — Last Updated August 27, 2002
by Gary Woodruff, MS-MVP
© 2001-2002 by Author, All Rights Reserved
http://www.aumha.org/a/xpupgrad.htm

Windows Product Activation (WPA) on Windows XP
by Alex Nichol, MS-MVP
© 2001-2002 by Author, All Rights Reserved
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm

How to Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During Installation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;310064

Troubleshooting Windows XP Setup
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm
-----

Once you have installed XP, post any questions in the appropriate Microsoft
XP ng, where any of hundreds of experts will quickly aid you in your new
venture.
And welcome back to us! Keep reading and posting with us, and I suspect you
will not be easily depressed again.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"ccmtmc" > wrote in message
...
> I'm in the process of changing to winxp pro. and would
> like to know if thats what I need. I'm recovering from
> depression from contracting Parkinsons and losing
> everything in my life for the past couple years.
>
> I started out by rebuilding or building a computer which
> was not easy. It's helped me ask questions which I've not
> been very good at. So, there's the background.
>
> My computer is modest. 2600 AMD on an A7N8X ASUS mb w/
> 512 ddr and 80gb hd. Two disk drives CDRW and DVD/CDRW
> combo. Video & sound cards.
>
> I have no $. Do I qualify for academic products to retrain
> myself? And, what xp version is best for a home base bus?
> I have priced some stuff thru Newegg and is there a even
> lower price location that you might suggest? Any help or
> referrals is appreciated.
>
> Chuck
>

[Chuck Milburn [email protected]]

Thaxs for your super response!!! I love it:)

Here they come... Let''s start with 32- vs. 64-bit. =20
(Simple, anologies, articles-- preferred and "not sure or=20
have no idea" acceptable. I just need input-- no=20
egotistical, ethereal brain pharts-- well on occasion when=20
neccary and typo's and 'sp's" no big deal.) In other=20
words, relaxed yet quality exchange of information that=20
is healthy which includes clever and fun-- life is short=20
and ment to be enjoyed. (I have caller ID and I just got=20
a call from Lawrence Welk-- Timing is everything!

Kingston DDR and I can do that. I will research the=20
others. My son and I have this strange relationship. I=20
started him out a four or five, maybe three 1/3?? but=20
young on a Comador--sp, He has it a month or so and I come=20
home and it's in pieces, all over the bedroom. $600....
Now he is in Costa Rica somewhere with a chick from=20
school, sends me a copy of xp pro w/o a disk--it came=20
with, and the product key. He is a student and waiter in=20
San Francisco going to sf state in Pol Sci. I try to=20
borrow a disk--can't find one. Find #310994 get to "You=20
must use CD to fin. and can't fiigure out how to do=20
that. Then to wonder if it's even legal -- I''m trying=20
to ffind a way to buyone. There will be more than one=20
comp w/n nine mo or so. Park is getting me so got to go. =20
Ill finish then-- I do not know how to save a reply. CM =20
>-----Original Message-----
>I would characterize your hardware as far from "modest",=20
but, instead, near
>the top of the AMD 32- vs. 64-bit world. The Asus A7N8X=20
is superb and
>several versions exist. Read the fine print silkscreened=20
onto the mainboard
>near the main logo. Read the Asus site for more info.
>If the one HD is SATA, more the better. Ditto, if the=20
AMD cpu is a
>"Barton". Any new money should go for 256 or 512 MB of=20
additional memory,
>if possible, for XP. Be sure to match the memory speed.
>Your next challenge is to obtain legally a copy of XP for=20
installation.
>Perhaps someone owes you a favor ...
>
>Cf., www.anandtech.com
> www.tomshardware.com
>
>
>If you only expect to run a stand-alone, home system,=20
then XP home is very
>adequate.
>Newegg.com is perhaps my preferred internet retailer,=20
followed by
>Microcenter, Tigerdirect, and CompUSA.
>Amazon.com has many affiliated computer-related=20
retailers, and
>www.pricewatch.com can be very useful to the=20
knowledgeable purchaser.
>Other shopping bots exist.
>Post your more specific requests about your computer-
related needs here for
>better suggestions.
>-------
>
>"XP ..., Do I Want It?
>
>XP Compatibility Checker
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/
advisor.asp
>Attn to dial-up users: ~ 32 - 50 MB !!
>
>Choosing XP version
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2
..asp
>
>Upgrading
>http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/
matrix.asp
>
>----
>Top 10 Reasons for IT Pros to move to Windows XP=20
Professional
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/whyupgra
de/itprotop10.asp
>
>Windows XP Professional Comparison Guide
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/whyupgra
de/featurecomp.asp
>----
>
>"Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows is dedicated to=20
providing all of the
>information you need
>to evaluate Microsoft's upcoming Windows operating system=20
technologies."
>http://www.winsupersite.com/
>
>WHICH WINDOWS DO I CHOOSE?
>http://www.aumha.org/a/whichwin.htm
>
>Upgrading to WINDOWS XP
>HOME EDITION or PROFESSIONAL
>Version 3.8 - Last Updated August 27, 2002
>by Gary Woodruff, MS-MVP
>=A9 2001-2002 by Author, All Rights Reserved
>http://www.aumha.org/a/xpupgrad.htm
>
>Windows Product Activation (WPA) on Windows XP
>by Alex Nichol, MS-MVP
>=A9 2001-2002 by Author, All Rights Reserved
>http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
>
>How to Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During=20
Installation
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-
US;310064
>
>Troubleshooting Windows XP Setup
>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm
>-----
>
>Once you have installed XP, post any questions in the=20
appropriate Microsoft
>XP ng, where any of hundreds of experts will quickly aid=20
you in your new
>venture.
>And welcome back to us! Keep reading and posting with=20
us, and I suspect you
>will not be easily depressed again.
>--=20
>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for=20
Shell/User / DTS
>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
spx
>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>------
>"ccmtmc" > wrote in=20
message
...
>> I'm in the process of changing to winxp pro. and would
>> like to know if thats what I need. I'm recovering from
>> depression from contracting Parkinsons and losing
>> everything in my life for the past couple years.
>>
>> I started out by rebuilding or building a computer which
>> was not easy. It's helped me ask questions which I've=20
not
>> been very good at. So, there's the background.
>>
>> My computer is modest. 2600 AMD on an A7N8X ASUS mb w/
>> 512 ddr and 80gb hd. Two disk drives CDRW and DVD/CDRW
>> combo. Video & sound cards.
>>
>> I have no $. Do I qualify for academic products to=20
retrain
>> myself? And, what xp version is best for a home base=20
bus?
>> I have priced some stuff thru Newegg and is there a even
>> lower price location that you might suggest? Any help=20
or
>> referrals is appreciated.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jack E Martinelli]

I recommend putting your son's "disk" in a 4" X 6" frame, and then
remembering how much you love him each day when you look at it.
And then go out a buy a legal copy of XP Home, or let a friend "gift" you.
Or any other "legal" solution.

On further reflection, I have some additional suggestions for your somewhat
unique situation:

1) Consult an occupational therapist to advise you about the numerous tools
and strategies to adapt to the computing environment in view of your medical
condition.

2) Evaluate whether Dragon System's Naturally Speaking voice recognition
software will be useful to you. Even if you have dysarthria, this software
may well be easily and quickly taught to recognize your speech and
substantially aid your computing, esp., if keyboarding is an issue.
http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking/


Hope this helps, and best wishes in the new year,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Chuck Milburn "
> wrote in message
...
Thaxs for your super response!!! I love it:)

Here they come... Let''s start with 32- vs. 64-bit.
(Simple, anologies, articles-- preferred and "not sure or
have no idea" acceptable. I just need input-- no
egotistical, ethereal brain pharts-- well on occasion when
neccary and typo's and 'sp's" no big deal.) In other
words, relaxed yet quality exchange of information that
is healthy which includes clever and fun-- life is short
and ment to be enjoyed. (I have caller ID and I just got
a call from Lawrence Welk-- Timing is everything!

Kingston DDR and I can do that. I will research the
others. My son and I have this strange relationship. I
started him out a four or five, maybe three 1/3?? but
young on a Comador--sp, He has it a month or so and I come
home and it's in pieces, all over the bedroom. $600....
Now he is in Costa Rica somewhere with a chick from
school, sends me a copy of xp pro w/o a disk--it came
with, and the product key. He is a student and waiter in
San Francisco going to sf state in Pol Sci. I try to
borrow a disk--can't find one. Find #310994 get to "You
must use CD to fin. and can't fiigure out how to do
that. Then to wonder if it's even legal -- I''m trying
to ffind a way to buyone. There will be more than one
comp w/n nine mo or so. Park is getting me so got to go.
Ill finish then-- I do not know how to save a reply. CM
>-----Original Message-----

<SNIP>

[Chuck Milburn]

Jack: That's where you came into the picture, minus the
framing-- I will deliver the message personally, I hope.

I have dragon already connected to Word Perfect 2000.
Moderate results prior to now. Do you know what they say
about a man w/ two watches? That's my process. But, I
need someone to start this scotter in the right
direction. Up for the shove-- might be a difficult one!?

Very busy now, but will be back with you probably
Saturday. In the meantime, are the academic rules
applicable to me or are they a vail, gossamer abeit, for
the taking and inforced by the propritors?

"If you accept this assignment", should we go email? "No
improprities, please!" I just appreciate the input and
want to be on the up-and-up.

Thanx-- Chuck
>-----Original Message-----
>I recommend putting your son's "disk" in a 4" X 6" frame,
and then
>remembering how much you love him each day when you look
at it.
>And then go out a buy a legal copy of XP Home, or let a
friend "gift" you.
>Or any other "legal" solution.
>
>On further reflection, I have some additional suggestions
for your somewhat
>unique situation:
>
>1) Consult an occupational therapist to advise you about
the numerous tools
>and strategies to adapt to the computing environment in
view of your medical
>condition.
>
>2) Evaluate whether Dragon System's Naturally Speaking
voice recognition
>software will be useful to you. Even if you have
dysarthria, this software
>may well be easily and quickly taught to recognize your
speech and
>substantially aid your computing, esp., if keyboarding is
an issue.
>http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking/
>
>
>Hope this helps, and best wishes in the new year,
>--
>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
Shell/User / DTS
>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
spx
>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>------
>"Chuck Milburn "
> wrote in message
...
>Thaxs for your super response!!! I love it:)
>
>Here they come... Let''s start with 32- vs. 64-bit.
>(Simple, anologies, articles-- preferred and "not sure or
>have no idea" acceptable. I just need input-- no
>egotistical, ethereal brain pharts-- well on occasion when
>neccary and typo's and 'sp's" no big deal.) In other
>words, relaxed yet quality exchange of information that
>is healthy which includes clever and fun-- life is short
>and ment to be enjoyed. (I have caller ID and I just got
>a call from Lawrence Welk-- Timing is everything!
>
>Kingston DDR and I can do that. I will research the
>others. My son and I have this strange relationship. I
>started him out a four or five, maybe three 1/3?? but
>young on a Comador--sp, He has it a month or so and I come
>home and it's in pieces, all over the bedroom. $600....
>Now he is in Costa Rica somewhere with a chick from
>school, sends me a copy of xp pro w/o a disk--it came
>with, and the product key. He is a student and waiter in
>San Francisco going to sf state in Pol Sci. I try to
>borrow a disk--can't find one. Find #310994 get to "You
>must use CD to fin. and can't fiigure out how to do
>that. Then to wonder if it's even legal -- I''m trying
>to ffind a way to buyone. There will be more than one
>comp w/n nine mo or so. Park is getting me so got to go.
>Ill finish then-- I do not know how to save a reply. CM
>>-----Original Message-----
>
><SNIP>
>
>
>.
>

[Jack E Martinelli]

I am happy to hear that you already have Dragon Narurally Speaking
installed, and hope it is a recent version. You must spend some time
training it to your personal speech for the best results.
m
Re: any "academic rules", each vendor will have such rules for purchases,
and that is the place to begin researching. OTH, earlier versions of any
software are often available dirt cheap at numerous internet vendors., such
as the affiliated Amazon.com partners.

http://www.eastoutlet.com/Scripts/default.asp
http://store.yahoo.com/geminicomputersinc/index.html


And let's keep our conversation here so others may benefit.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Chuck Milburn" > wrote in message
...
> Jack: That's where you came into the picture, minus the
> framing-- I will deliver the message personally, I hope.
>
> I have dragon already connected to Word Perfect 2000.
> Moderate results prior to now. Do you know what they say
> about a man w/ two watches? That's my process. But, I
> need someone to start this scotter in the right
> direction. Up for the shove-- might be a difficult one!?
>
> Very busy now, but will be back with you probably
> Saturday. In the meantime, are the academic rules
> applicable to me or are they a vail, gossamer abeit, for
> the taking and inforced by the propritors?
>
> "If you accept this assignment", should we go email? "No
> improprities, please!" I just appreciate the input and
> want to be on the up-and-up.
>
> Thanx-- Chuck
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I recommend putting your son's "disk" in a 4" X 6" frame,
> and then
> >remembering how much you love him each day when you look
> at it.
> >And then go out a buy a legal copy of XP Home, or let a
> friend "gift" you.
> >Or any other "legal" solution.
> >
> >On further reflection, I have some additional suggestions
> for your somewhat
> >unique situation:
> >
> >1) Consult an occupational therapist to advise you about
> the numerous tools
> >and strategies to adapt to the computing environment in
> view of your medical
> >condition.
> >
> >2) Evaluate whether Dragon System's Naturally Speaking
> voice recognition
> >software will be useful to you. Even if you have
> dysarthria, this software
> >may well be easily and quickly taught to recognize your
> speech and
> >substantially aid your computing, esp., if keyboarding is
> an issue.
> >http://www.scansoft.com/naturallyspeaking/
> >
> >
> >Hope this helps, and best wishes in the new year,
> >--
> >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
> Shell/User / DTS
> >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
> spx
> >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >------
> >"Chuck Milburn "
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >Thaxs for your super response!!! I love it:)
> >
> >Here they come... Let''s start with 32- vs. 64-bit.
> >(Simple, anologies, articles-- preferred and "not sure or
> >have no idea" acceptable. I just need input-- no
> >egotistical, ethereal brain pharts-- well on occasion when
> >neccary and typo's and 'sp's" no big deal.) In other
> >words, relaxed yet quality exchange of information that
> >is healthy which includes clever and fun-- life is short
> >and ment to be enjoyed. (I have caller ID and I just got
> >a call from Lawrence Welk-- Timing is everything!
> >
> >Kingston DDR and I can do that. I will research the
> >others. My son and I have this strange relationship. I
> >started him out a four or five, maybe three 1/3?? but
> >young on a Comador--sp, He has it a month or so and I come
> >home and it's in pieces, all over the bedroom. $600....
> >Now he is in Costa Rica somewhere with a chick from
> >school, sends me a copy of xp pro w/o a disk--it came
> >with, and the product key. He is a student and waiter in
> >San Francisco going to sf state in Pol Sci. I try to
> >borrow a disk--can't find one. Find #310994 get to "You
> >must use CD to fin. and can't fiigure out how to do
> >that. Then to wonder if it's even legal -- I''m trying
> >to ffind a way to buyone. There will be more than one
> >comp w/n nine mo or so. Park is getting me so got to go.
> >Ill finish then-- I do not know how to save a reply. CM
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >
> ><SNIP>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Jack E Martinelli]

You wrote: "After some time I got some spam and fdisked it."

Nuking the HD to remove some spam is not typically recommended!
Numerous free and inexpensive removal tools exist. Numerous commenters in
this ng could have easily guided you in doing so.
I suspect you now know better and will post here for expert guidance before
acting so rashly in the future <vbg> .

You wrote: "I originally started my 80 gig on my old tiger w/o knowledge of
FAT 32 or BIOS stuff. ...
Consequently I have only 31 gig available-- Is my BIOS SCREWED-UP? "

Since this machine apparently has two HD's, 3 and 4 GB (or is it 80 GB
???), it is probably rather old and the BIOS indeed may not support large
HD's natively:

Windows Support for Large IDE Hard Disks
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;126855

How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to Partition or Repartition a
Hard Disk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255867

Order in Which MS-DOS and Windows Assign Drive Letters
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;51978

Description of the FAT32 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;154997



Your system may have previously been using a "Drive Overlay" program to
bypass this BIOS bottleneck, which you removed by fdisking the drive. At
your skill level, the easiest solution may be to obtain an older copy of the
Powerquest Partition Magic partition manager and use it to inspect the
drive. It can be used to create additional primary or extended partitions
on the drive for use.

I suspect that your older system will not run XP Home very well, if at all.

When you initially run the XP installation on your newer machine, it will
run the upgrade advisor first to interrogate your machine and advise you
whether you should continue with the upgrade. I strongly recommend running
XP if any machine will support it, and, in fact, getting a machine that
will, if necessary. Particularly, in your case, since you shouldn't have to
be worrying about any speed or robustness or security problems, while
getting Dragon Naturally Speaking to communicate well with Word Perfect.
And the more powerful hardware with more speed will help in training the
voice recognition s/w. DNS is very good using the better hardware!

And finish, late at night, with http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Chuck" > wrote in message
...
>
> Jack:
>
> Boy, your info has driven me into deeper water than I can
> stand in on my own. But, I agree with you on the keep it
> public thought. This is good stuff and should share well.
>
> I didn't mention that I have a back up computer that runs
> well--AMD, Tiger Dir something or other. It has served me
> well. Has ME in it and two ddrs', 4 and 3 gig,133ghz.
>
> Digression: I went on line (eBay) and have purchased a
> couple newer (vs. upgraded) programs incl. win XP Home
> SP2a (OEM) for $about $90 w/ cert. when I arrives. Also
> Word Perfect and Dragon N.S., which brings up lot's of Qs
> for later.
>
> We'll start w/ hd prob; I originally started my 80 gig on
> my old tiger w/o knowledge of FAT 32 or BIOS stuff. After
> some time I got some spam and fdisked it. Consequently
> have only 31 gig available-- Is my BIOS SCREWED-UP? From
> reading it seems that I "set" the BIOS when I did the
> formatting on the old machine or something like that. Is
> that true? When you install a hd does it write that BIOS
> and keep it? I Need to clean up hd and learn about
> partitions and basic reading and writing in BIOS and
> DOS. If you could briefly explain the process, in over-
> view fashion, and direct me to kb or whatever info
> source. I would appreciate it. I gave away my win 98
> stuff thinking I no longer required it to the Goodwill
> last month. With Cliff giving me this winxp stuff, I am
> that man with two watches. I'm assuming raw, straight--
> stand-alone stuff is the best and only stuff one should
> use-- when possible. I sure do not like all the time
> spent poking and prodding. It's hard for me to keep this
> all in my head so it appears for the additional cost you
> get less rewriting and false exceptions. How about OEM,
> any problems w/ that- and could you explain it or ref it?
>
> Who thought up this organization for email replies, posts,
> reading from the top, bottom etc...? Seems stupidly ad hoc
> to me. Some of these responses are really hard to follow-
> -any suggestions on chat/news room procedures? Noel makes
> a comment and next thing I'm somewhere else. Also, tried
> to reply, new post, post reply and decided to go to wp
> and transfer to newsgroup, hope it works.
>
> Enough for now!!!!!! Chuck
>

<SNIP>