CDROM Drives Files showing as Music

[Frenchy]

My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
explore a disk inserted in either drive

This is not a file association problem.

The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in SYSTEM/DEVICES
at the DOS screen in boot-up.

Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as New
Hardware found.

Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access with
an INT24 error to either CD Drive.

Help??

Frenchy

[Mart]

One issue at a time!

> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.

Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk - as
produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made later by
yourself?

If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How to
Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then you
can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure to read
the instructions.

Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the CD
Drives in Real Mode DOS.

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>
> This is not a file association problem.
>
> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>
> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as New
> Hardware found.
>
> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>
> Help??
>
> Frenchy
>
>

[Frenchy]

It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as you
directed below and identical problem.

On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR command
issued get error message
CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
A, R, F

If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail on
INT 24"

Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.

Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
"Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through to
track 21.

The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21 files??

Thanks
Frenchy

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> One issue at a time!
>
>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>
> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk - as
> produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made later by
> yourself?
>
> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How to
> Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then you
> can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure to read
> the instructions.
>
> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the CD
> Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>
>> This is not a file association problem.
>>
>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>
>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as
>> New Hardware found.
>>
>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>
>> Help??
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>

My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.

INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
"Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
for example.

Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post, you
mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your previous post.
Does the same report appear if you check the other drive? (the F: drive?).

If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as you
> directed below and identical problem.
>
> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR command
> issued get error message
> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
> A, R, F
>
> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail on
> INT 24"
>
> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
> fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.
>
> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
> "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through to
> track 21.
>
> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21 files??
>
> Thanks
> Frenchy
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> One issue at a time!
>>
>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>
>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk - as
>> produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made later
>> by yourself?
>>
>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How to
>> Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then you
>> can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure to
>> read the instructions.
>>
>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the CD
>> Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>
>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>
>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>
>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as
>>> New Hardware found.
>>>
>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>
>>> Help??
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>

Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust. Why
would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??

I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything obviously
loose in the connections. Nothing

Frenchy


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>
> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>
> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
> for example.
>
> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post, you
> mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your previous
> post. Does the same report appear if you check the other drive? (the F:
> drive?).
>
> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>
>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR command
>> issued get error message
>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>> A, R, F
>>
>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail on
>> INT 24"
>>
>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
>> fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.
>>
>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
>> "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through to
>> track 21.
>>
>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>> files??
>>
>> Thanks
>> Frenchy
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> One issue at a time!
>>>
>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>
>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk -
>>> as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made
>>> later by yourself?
>>>
>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How to
>>> Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure
>>> to read the instructions.
>>>
>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the CD
>>> Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>>>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>>>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>
>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>
>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>
>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as
>>>> New Hardware found.
>>>>
>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>
>>>> Help??
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty environment
<bg>

So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!

How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?

Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')

Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same IDE
controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see if the
primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK (don't forget
to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the BIOS!!)

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>
> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>
> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything obviously
> loose in the connections. Nothing
>
> Frenchy
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>
>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>
>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>> for example.
>>
>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post, you
>> mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your previous
>> post. Does the same report appear if you check the other drive? (the F:
>> drive?).
>>
>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>>
>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>> command issued get error message
>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>> A, R, F
>>>
>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail
>>> on INT 24"
>>>
>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
>>> fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.
>>>
>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
>>> "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through
>>> to track 21.
>>>
>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>> files??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>
>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>
>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk -
>>>> as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made
>>>> later by yourself?
>>>>
>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How
>>>> to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure
>>>> to read the instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the
>>>> CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>>>>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>>>>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing as
>>>>> New Hardware found.
>>>>>
>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow access
>>>>> with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Help??
>>>>>
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Frenchy,

It's now bed-time here in the UK and as you are posting 13hours ahead of me,
I would expect you to know the solution long before I've even thought of it
<g>

In the meantime, keep posting. I'm sure that someone else will be able to
help and I'll pick up again - if necessary - tomorrow.

Mart


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
> environment <bg>
>
> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>
> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>
> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>
> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see if
> the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK (don't
> forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the BIOS!!)
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>
>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>
>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>
>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>
>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>> for example.
>>>
>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other drive?
>>> (the F: drive?).
>>>
>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>>>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>
>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>> command issued get error message
>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>> A, R, F
>>>>
>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail
>>>> on INT 24"
>>>>
>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
>>>> fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.
>>>>
>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
>>>> "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through
>>>> to track 21.
>>>>
>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>>>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>> files??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk -
>>>>> as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made
>>>>> later by yourself?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How
>>>>> to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure
>>>>> to read the instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the
>>>>> CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>>>>>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>>>>>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

Have a good sleep <smile>

Your help and humour is appreciated!

Frenchy
"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Frenchy,
>
> It's now bed-time here in the UK and as you are posting 13hours ahead of
> me, I would expect you to know the solution long before I've even thought
> of it <g>
>
> In the meantime, keep posting. I'm sure that someone else will be able to
> help and I'll pick up again - if necessary - tomorrow.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
>> environment <bg>
>>
>> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>>
>> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>>
>> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>>
>> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
>> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see
>> if the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK
>> (don't forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the
>> BIOS!!)
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>>
>>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>>
>>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>>
>>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>>
>>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>>> for example.
>>>>
>>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other
>>>> drive? (the F: drive?).
>>>>
>>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>>>>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>>> command issued get error message
>>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>>> A, R, F
>>>>>
>>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail
>>>>> on INT 24"
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that
>>>>> works fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer
>>>>> as "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA
>>>>> through to track 21.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>>>>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>>> files??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy)
>>>>>> Disk - as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM)
>>>>>> or made later by yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How
>>>>>> to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>>>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be
>>>>>> sure to read the instructions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the
>>>>>> CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive
>>>>>>> is suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when
>>>>>>> you explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.

The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the BIOS
screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
SYSTEM/DEVICES.

Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two optical
drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now, with 512 Mb RAM.
It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or spyware on board,
guaranteed.

In the BIOS setup, there shows:

Primary Master PIO
Primary Slave PIO
Secondary Master PIO
Secondary Slave PIO
Primary Master UDMA
Primary Slave UDMA
Secondary Master UDMA
Secondary Slave UDMA

Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or modes
0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO and
DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At present all
the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting the Sec Master
PIO to Mode 0 and no change.

The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem, but
how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as lights
appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a disk in the
drive.

Frenchy


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
> environment <bg>
>
> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>
> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>
> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>
> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see if
> the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK (don't
> forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the BIOS!!)
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>
>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>
>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>
>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>
>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>> for example.
>>>
>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other drive?
>>> (the F: drive?).
>>>
>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>>>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>
>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>> command issued get error message
>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>> A, R, F
>>>>
>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail
>>>> on INT 24"
>>>>
>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that works
>>>> fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association problem.
>>>>
>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer as
>>>> "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA through
>>>> to track 21.
>>>>
>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>>>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>> files??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy) Disk -
>>>>> as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM) or made
>>>>> later by yourself?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How
>>>>> to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be sure
>>>>> to read the instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the
>>>>> CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive is
>>>>>> suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when you
>>>>>> explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

> Have a good sleep <smile>

I did! - thank you. No nightmares worrying about this, either!!

> Your help and humour is appreciated!

Got to keep a sense of humour when playing with these things - you'd go
round the twist otherwise. But just be aware that Windows often comprises
both Art and Science - Black Art!!

Now, back to the other part of the thread...

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> Have a good sleep <smile>
>
> Your help and humour is appreciated!
>
> Frenchy
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Frenchy,
>>
>> It's now bed-time here in the UK and as you are posting 13hours ahead of
>> me, I would expect you to know the solution long before I've even thought
>> of it <g>
>>
>> In the meantime, keep posting. I'm sure that someone else will be able to
>> help and I'll pick up again - if necessary - tomorrow.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
>>> environment <bg>
>>>
>>> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>>>
>>> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>>>
>>> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>>>
>>> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
>>> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see
>>> if the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK
>>> (don't forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the
>>> BIOS!!)
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>>>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>>>
>>>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>>>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>>>
>>>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>>>> for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other
>>>>> drive? (the F: drive?).
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one
>>>>>> as you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>>>> command issued get error message
>>>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>>>> A, R, F
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message
>>>>>> "Fail on INT 24"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that
>>>>>> works fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer
>>>>>> as "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA
>>>>>> through to track 21.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number
>>>>>> of files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>>>> files??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy)
>>>>>>> Disk - as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM)
>>>>>>> or made later by yourself?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself
>>>>>>> (How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 )
>>>>>>> then you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com .
>>>>>>> Be sure to read the instructions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access
>>>>>>> the CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive
>>>>>>>> is suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files
>>>>>>>> when you explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??

Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!

Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.

As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising your
CD's?

Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it shows PIO
*and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)

Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off and
connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD. (N.B. -
If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it will save
you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore save you quite a
bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot until you are
ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)

Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?

Mart



"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>
> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the BIOS
> screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>
> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now, with
> 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or spyware on
> board, guaranteed.
>
> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>
> Primary Master PIO
> Primary Slave PIO
> Secondary Master PIO
> Secondary Slave PIO
> Primary Master UDMA
> Primary Slave UDMA
> Secondary Master UDMA
> Secondary Slave UDMA
>
> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO and
> DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At present
> all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting the Sec
> Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>
> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem, but
> how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as lights
> appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a disk in
> the drive.
>
> Frenchy
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
>> environment <bg>
>>
>> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>>
>> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>>
>> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>>
>> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
>> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see
>> if the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK
>> (don't forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the
>> BIOS!!)
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>>
>>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>>
>>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>>
>>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>>
>>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>>> for example.
>>>>
>>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other
>>>> drive? (the F: drive?).
>>>>
>>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one as
>>>>> you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>>> command issued get error message
>>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>>> A, R, F
>>>>>
>>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message "Fail
>>>>> on INT 24"
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that
>>>>> works fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer
>>>>> as "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA
>>>>> through to track 21.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number of
>>>>> files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>>> files??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy)
>>>>>> Disk - as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM)
>>>>>> or made later by yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself (How
>>>>>> to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 ) then
>>>>>> you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . Be
>>>>>> sure to read the instructions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access the
>>>>>> CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive
>>>>>>> is suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files when
>>>>>>> you explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Addendum :-

> If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it will save
> you trying to boot to Windows each time

If you don't hit the 'Access to BIOS' button in time <g>

Mart


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>
> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>
> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>
> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising your
> CD's?
>
> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it shows
> PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>
> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off
> and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD.
> (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it
> will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore save
> you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot
> until you are ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)
>
> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>
>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the BIOS
>> screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
>> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>
>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now, with
>> 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or spyware on
>> board, guaranteed.
>>
>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>
>> Primary Master PIO
>> Primary Slave PIO
>> Secondary Master PIO
>> Secondary Slave PIO
>> Primary Master UDMA
>> Primary Slave UDMA
>> Secondary Master UDMA
>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>
>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
>> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO
>> and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At
>> present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting
>> the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>
>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem,
>> but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as
>> lights appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a
>> disk in the drive.
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Frenchy, you've not only eliminated WinMe, but now also a dusty
>>> environment <bg>
>>>
>>> So that leaves coincidence. - If only!!
>>>
>>> How about a different CD - or better still, several other CD's?
>>>
>>> Confirm that the BIOS is recognising the CD-ROMS correctly (try 'Auto')
>>>
>>> Depending on how you've got them configured - assuming BOTH on the same
>>> IDE controller - try pulling one of the CD-ROMS (the secondary) and see
>>> if the primary works OK, then transpose and see if the other works OK
>>> (don't forget to temporally alter the p/s links accordingly - and the
>>> BIOS!!)
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Dusty!!! My wife would kill U for saying my office is dusty <smile>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, both fixed CD drives do exactly the same. I don't think any dust.
>>>> Why would it show the same 21 file names on both CD Drives??
>>>>
>>>> I have checked what I can see in the internal wires for anything
>>>> obviously loose in the connections. Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Well, you've eliminated Windows Me <g>
>>>>>
>>>>> My 'Guess' is that at best, the CD's need cleaning or the lazer needs
>>>>> cleaning on your CD-ROM (try a lens cleaner - available at most Audio
>>>>> stores) or worse, the CD-ROM is/are beginning to fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> INT 24 reports are often associated with missing/failing hardware, see
>>>>> "Windows Err Msg: List of Kernel Program Messages"
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;69299
>>>>> for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although you only reported on one CD-ROM (the E: drive) in this post,
>>>>> you mentioned that there were two, later in this and also in your
>>>>> previous post. Does the same report appear if you check the other
>>>>> drive? (the F: drive?).
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, coincidence - or a dusty environment??
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> It was a start-up disk I had for a while, but just went and got one
>>>>>> as you directed below and identical problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On booting via that floppy, going to E: is OK, but as soon as DIR
>>>>>> command issued get error message
>>>>>> CDR101 Not ready reading drive E
>>>>>> A, R, F
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Abort goes back to E prompt. If Fail it gives error message
>>>>>> "Fail on INT 24"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I have just attached a USB DVD drive to the computer and that
>>>>>> works fine, hence my comment that it is not a file association
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any CD placed in either of the two fixed drives shows in My Computer
>>>>>> as "Audio CD" and there are a bunch of files labelled TRACK01.CDA
>>>>>> through to track 21.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "interesting thing" is the 21 files do not represent the number
>>>>>> of files/folders on the CD, in fact any CD inserted shows the same 21
>>>>>> files??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> One issue at a time!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you referring to the 'standard' Windows ME Startup (floppy)
>>>>>>> Disk - as produced when WinMe was installed (or supplied by an OEM)
>>>>>>> or made later by yourself?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do not have this disk, or are unable to make one yourself
>>>>>>> (How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me -
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267287 )
>>>>>>> then you can download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com .
>>>>>>> Be sure to read the instructions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Armed with this Startup Disk, try again and see if you can access
>>>>>>> the CD Drives in Real Mode DOS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> My Grandson's computer (Win ME) with a DVD drive and a CDROM drive
>>>>>>>> is suddenly not showing ANY files other than Media Player files
>>>>>>>> when you explore a disk inserted in either drive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is not a file association problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The drive names are also showing as ASCII like characters in
>>>>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES at the DOS screen in boot-up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Removing them from here does nothing, they reappear without showing
>>>>>>>> as New Hardware found.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Booting from a floppy and a Generic CDROM driver does not allow
>>>>>>>> access with an INT24 error to either CD Drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Help??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As the
ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that for the
HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.

This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old (soon
to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless there is a
problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was certainly not
there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in the BIOS settings but
may have been playing with a Tweak UI type program, but denies doing that.

The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to action
(due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so I will go
kinda quiet for a few days.

Try not to miss me too much <grin>

Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that option in
some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever played with.

Frenchy


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>
> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>
> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>
> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising your
> CD's?
>
> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it shows
> PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>
> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off
> and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD.
> (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it
> will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore save
> you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot
> until you are ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)
>
> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>
>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the BIOS
>> screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
>> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>
>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now, with
>> 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or spyware on
>> board, guaranteed.
>>
>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>
>> Primary Master PIO
>> Primary Slave PIO
>> Secondary Master PIO
>> Secondary Slave PIO
>> Primary Master UDMA
>> Primary Slave UDMA
>> Secondary Master UDMA
>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>
>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
>> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO
>> and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At
>> present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting
>> the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>
>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem,
>> but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as
>> lights appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a
>> disk in the drive.
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
snip

[Mart]

Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.

> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As the
> ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that for
> the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.

Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall' them.

Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER OFF
of course!!)

Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)

The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-

a Primary Master = HD
no Primary Slave
a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM

And set them ALL to AUTO.

Got to dash - speak later.

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As the
> ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that for
> the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>
> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless
> there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was
> certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in the
> BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak UI type program, but
> denies doing that.
>
> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to action
> (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so I will go
> kinda quiet for a few days.
>
> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>
> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that option in
> some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever played with.
>
> Frenchy
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>
>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>
>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>>
>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
>> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising
>> your CD's?
>>
>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it shows
>> PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>
>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off
>> and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD.
>> (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it
>> will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore save
>> you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot
>> until you are ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)
>>
>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>
>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the
>>> BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>
>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now, with
>>> 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or spyware on
>>> board, guaranteed.
>>>
>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>
>>> Primary Master PIO
>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>
>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
>>> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO
>>> and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At
>>> present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting
>>> the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>
>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem,
>>> but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as
>>> lights appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a
>>> disk in the drive.
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>>
> snip
>

[Mart]

Frenchy - continued...

> And set them ALL to AUTO.

The BIOS should re-detect and 'enumerate' each device, then show (some)
details (Type, manufacturer, model, etc.,) of each of the devices in the
BIOS screen.

When you think that they are detected correctly - and it *may* take a couple
or so re-boots - then let the floppy continue to boot into Real Mode DOS and
see if you are able to use the DIR command sucessfully this time.

If so, remove the floppy and re-boot into Windows.

>> ...... I will go kinda quiet for a few days.

OK, try to stick with this thread if you can and I'll keep 'watching'

Mart


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.
>
>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>
> Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall'
> them.
>
> Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER OFF
> of course!!)
>
> Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
> implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)
>
> The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-
>
> a Primary Master = HD
> no Primary Slave
> a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
> a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM
>
> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>
> Got to dash - speak later.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>
>> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
>> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless
>> there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was
>> certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in the
>> BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak UI type program, but
>> denies doing that.
>>
>> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to action
>> (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so I will go
>> kinda quiet for a few days.
>>
>> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>>
>> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that option
>> in some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever played
>> with.
>>
>> Frenchy
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>>
>>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>>
>>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>>>
>>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
>>> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising
>>> your CD's?
>>>
>>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it shows
>>> PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>>
>>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off
>>> and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD.
>>> (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process, it
>>> will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore
>>> save you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to
>>> reboot until you are ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)
>>>
>>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>>
>>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>>>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the
>>>> BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>>
>>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>>>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now,
>>>> with 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or
>>>> spyware on board, guaranteed.
>>>>
>>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>>
>>>> Primary Master PIO
>>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>>
>>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
>>>> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO
>>>> and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At
>>>> present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting
>>>> the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>>
>>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem,
>>>> but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as
>>>> lights appear and you get an error message if U try to action without a
>>>> disk in the drive.
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>>
>> snip
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

OK, now things get crappy

disabled each drive. HD OK.

CDROM drive connected and shows the correct name at the boot screens, BUT
gets Blue Screen of Death when booting through to Windows, note this is with
the DVD Drive disconnected.

If the DVD drive alone is connected it shows the hieroglyphics for its name
at the boot screen, just as it does when both drives are connected. In
other words, something suspicious with this DVD drive and as it ain't
needed, I would leave it disconnected, BUT the BSOD shows error

"I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either the file in .\iosubsystem sub
directory is corrupt, or Memory low"

Also, at another boot got a BOSD with "Windows general protection fault"

It gets worse, as if I take it back to both drives connected, it boots
through to almost the end (Just before icons appear on desktop) with an
error message

"Explorer caused an error in WININET.dll" and the computer just hangs there!

shucks!!

Rgds
Chris


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Frenchy - continued...
>
>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>
> The BIOS should re-detect and 'enumerate' each device, then show (some)
> details (Type, manufacturer, model, etc.,) of each of the devices in the
> BIOS screen.
>
> When you think that they are detected correctly - and it *may* take a
> couple or so re-boots - then let the floppy continue to boot into Real
> Mode DOS and see if you are able to use the DIR command sucessfully this
> time.
>
> If so, remove the floppy and re-boot into Windows.
>
>>> ...... I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>
> OK, try to stick with this thread if you can and I'll keep 'watching'
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.
>>
>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>
>> Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall'
>> them.
>>
>> Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER
>> OFF of course!!)
>>
>> Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
>> implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)
>>
>> The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-
>>
>> a Primary Master = HD
>> no Primary Slave
>> a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
>> a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM
>>
>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>
>> Got to dash - speak later.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>
>>> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
>>> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless
>>> there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was
>>> certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in the
>>> BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak UI type program,
>>> but denies doing that.
>>>
>>> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to
>>> action (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so I
>>> will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>
>>> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>>>
>>> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that option
>>> in some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever played
>>> with.
>>>
>>> Frenchy
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>>>
>>>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>>>>
>>>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
>>>> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising
>>>> your CD's?
>>>>
>>>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it
>>>> shows PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>>>
>>>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all off
>>>> and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your HDD.
>>>> (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this process,
>>>> it will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will therefore
>>>> save you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use Ctrl+Alt+Del to
>>>> reboot until you are ready to re-try Windows, then pull the floppy)
>>>>
>>>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>>>>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the
>>>>> BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA or
>>>>> SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>>>>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now,
>>>>> with 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or
>>>>> spyware on board, guaranteed.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Primary Master PIO
>>>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO, or
>>>>> modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for AUTO
>>>>> and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change. At
>>>>> present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried setting
>>>>> the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>>>
>>>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the problem,
>>>>> but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical drives, as
>>>>> lights appear and you get an error message if U try to action without
>>>>> a disk in the drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

Chris, let's go back a little!! Don't go for Windows YET!!

With BOTH CD-ROM drives (DVD & CD-ROM) connected, boot using your WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select the 'With CD-ROM support' option and see if
they (assuming both are connected) are recognised in DOS.

It *should* report a drive letter for each of your CD-ROM's which are not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect in Windows.

You *should* see TWO CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen
*should* show:
> Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
> Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
> Your CD-ROM Is Drive E

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is Drive
F" - you won't, it will only show the one)

When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\>
prompt.

Now put a CD into the first CD-ROM and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
press Return.

You *should* get a 'proper' listing of the CD contents.

Try again with the CD in the other drive, this time typing "F:" at the
"E:\>" prompt to change drives and at the F:\> prompt type "DIR /P" for the
listing.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

Bed time again here - someone *may* be able to take over, or I'll continue
in the morning.

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> OK, now things get crappy
>
> disabled each drive. HD OK.
>
> CDROM drive connected and shows the correct name at the boot screens, BUT
> gets Blue Screen of Death when booting through to Windows, note this is
> with the DVD Drive disconnected.
>
> If the DVD drive alone is connected it shows the hieroglyphics for its
> name at the boot screen, just as it does when both drives are connected.
> In other words, something suspicious with this DVD drive and as it ain't
> needed, I would leave it disconnected, BUT the BSOD shows error
>
> "I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either the file in .\iosubsystem
> sub directory is corrupt, or Memory low"
>
> Also, at another boot got a BOSD with "Windows general protection fault"
>
> It gets worse, as if I take it back to both drives connected, it boots
> through to almost the end (Just before icons appear on desktop) with an
> error message
>
> "Explorer caused an error in WININET.dll" and the computer just hangs
> there!
>
> shucks!!
>
> Rgds
> Chris
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Frenchy - continued...
>>
>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>
>> The BIOS should re-detect and 'enumerate' each device, then show (some)
>> details (Type, manufacturer, model, etc.,) of each of the devices in the
>> BIOS screen.
>>
>> When you think that they are detected correctly - and it *may* take a
>> couple or so re-boots - then let the floppy continue to boot into Real
>> Mode DOS and see if you are able to use the DIR command sucessfully this
>> time.
>>
>> If so, remove the floppy and re-boot into Windows.
>>
>>>> ...... I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>
>> OK, try to stick with this thread if you can and I'll keep 'watching'
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.
>>>
>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>>>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>
>>> Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall'
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER
>>> OFF of course!!)
>>>
>>> Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
>>> implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)
>>>
>>> The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-
>>>
>>> a Primary Master = HD
>>> no Primary Slave
>>> a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
>>> a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM
>>>
>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>>
>>> Got to dash - speak later.
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do that
>>>> for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>>
>>>> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
>>>> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless
>>>> there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was
>>>> certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in
>>>> the BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak UI type
>>>> program, but denies doing that.
>>>>
>>>> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to
>>>> action (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so I
>>>> will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>>
>>>> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>>>>
>>>> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that option
>>>> in some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever played
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> Frenchy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
>>>>> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising
>>>>> your CD's?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it
>>>>> shows PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all
>>>>> off and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your
>>>>> HDD. (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this
>>>>> process, it will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and will
>>>>> therefore save you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use
>>>>> Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot until you are ready to re-try Windows, then
>>>>> pull the floppy)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>>>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>>>>>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the
>>>>>> BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA
>>>>>> or SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>>>>>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now,
>>>>>> with 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or
>>>>>> spyware on board, guaranteed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Primary Master PIO
>>>>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>>>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>>>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>>>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>>>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>>>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>>>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO,
>>>>>> or modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for
>>>>>> AUTO and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change.
>>>>>> At present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried
>>>>>> setting the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the
>>>>>> problem, but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical
>>>>>> drives, as lights appear and you get an error message if U try to
>>>>>> action without a disk in the drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Frenchy]

What a saga! U give me more jobs than my dear wife!

OK, if only the CDROM connected and booting to a an ME boot disk, it worked
OK at the E: prompt and allowed CDROM access.

If only the DVD drive connected and using boot disk, it showed a drive
letter E, but a CDR:100 error when trying to /dir the drive. Note also this
drives name in the initial boot screen shows as nonsense letters.

With both drives connected and again to the boot disk, drives E and F have
generic drivers entered and E (the CDROM) allows Dir/w and file access,
while F: (the DVD) does not.

Disconnected F drive and booted to Safe Mode (something I didn't do last
time) and went into CONTROL PANEL/SYSTEM/DEVICES and removed the DVD drive
from the hardware.

Then rebooted and Voila, all is returned to normal and the CDROM drive name
shows at boot and is working fine.

Many thanks your patience in the walkthroughs.

Obviously the DVD drive is Kaput and as it was slaved to the other this
drove them both wrong. The secret was to both disconnect the drive AND
remove it from the hardware profile.

Best Regards

Frenchy


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Chris, let's go back a little!! Don't go for Windows YET!!
>
> With BOTH CD-ROM drives (DVD & CD-ROM) connected, boot using your WinMe
> (floppy) Startup Disk and select the 'With CD-ROM support' option and see
> if they (assuming both are connected) are recognised in DOS.
>
> It *should* report a drive letter for each of your CD-ROM's which are not
> necessarily the same letter as you would expect in Windows.
>
> You *should* see TWO CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen
> *should* show:
>> Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
>> Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
>> Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>
> (Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is Drive
> F" - you won't, it will only show the one)
>
> When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
> A:\> prompt.
>
> Now put a CD into the first CD-ROM and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:" (no
> quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.
>
> Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
> press Return.
>
> You *should* get a 'proper' listing of the CD contents.
>
> Try again with the CD in the other drive, this time typing "F:" at the
> "E:\>" prompt to change drives and at the F:\> prompt type "DIR /P" for
> the listing.
>
> Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any
>
> Bed time again here - someone *may* be able to take over, or I'll continue
> in the morning.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> OK, now things get crappy
>>
>> disabled each drive. HD OK.
>>
>> CDROM drive connected and shows the correct name at the boot screens, BUT
>> gets Blue Screen of Death when booting through to Windows, note this is
>> with the DVD Drive disconnected.
>>
>> If the DVD drive alone is connected it shows the hieroglyphics for its
>> name at the boot screen, just as it does when both drives are connected.
>> In other words, something suspicious with this DVD drive and as it ain't
>> needed, I would leave it disconnected, BUT the BSOD shows error
>>
>> "I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either the file in .\iosubsystem
>> sub directory is corrupt, or Memory low"
>>
>> Also, at another boot got a BOSD with "Windows general protection fault"
>>
>> It gets worse, as if I take it back to both drives connected, it boots
>> through to almost the end (Just before icons appear on desktop) with an
>> error message
>>
>> "Explorer caused an error in WININET.dll" and the computer just hangs
>> there!
>>
>> shucks!!
>>
>> Rgds
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Frenchy - continued...
>>>
>>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>>
>>> The BIOS should re-detect and 'enumerate' each device, then show (some)
>>> details (Type, manufacturer, model, etc.,) of each of the devices in the
>>> BIOS screen.
>>>
>>> When you think that they are detected correctly - and it *may* take a
>>> couple or so re-boots - then let the floppy continue to boot into Real
>>> Mode DOS and see if you are able to use the DIR command sucessfully this
>>> time.
>>>
>>> If so, remove the floppy and re-boot into Windows.
>>>
>>>>> ...... I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>
>>> OK, try to stick with this thread if you can and I'll keep 'watching'
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.
>>>>
>>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do
>>>>> that for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>>
>>>> Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall'
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER
>>>> OFF of course!!)
>>>>
>>>> Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
>>>> implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)
>>>>
>>>> The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-
>>>>
>>>> a Primary Master = HD
>>>> no Primary Slave
>>>> a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
>>>> a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM
>>>>
>>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>>>
>>>> Got to dash - speak later.
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them? As
>>>>> the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do
>>>>> that for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
>>>>> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it unless
>>>>> there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back, but was
>>>>> certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been playing in
>>>>> the BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak UI type
>>>>> program, but denies doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to
>>>>> action (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so
>>>>> I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that
>>>>> option in some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever
>>>>> played with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were things
>>>>>> working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped recognising
>>>>>> your CD's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it
>>>>>> shows PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all
>>>>>> off and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with your
>>>>>> HDD. (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during this
>>>>>> process, it will save you trying to boot to Windows each time and
>>>>>> will therefore save you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or use
>>>>>> Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot until you are ready to re-try Windows, then
>>>>>> pull the floppy)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>>>>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO) and
>>>>>>> Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both in the
>>>>>>> BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say via AIDA
>>>>>>> or SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the two
>>>>>>> optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old now,
>>>>>>> with 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus or
>>>>>>> spyware on board, guaranteed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Primary Master PIO
>>>>>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>>>>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>>>>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>>>>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>>>>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>>>>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>>>>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO,
>>>>>>> or modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option for
>>>>>>> AUTO and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no change.
>>>>>>> At present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I tried
>>>>>>> setting the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the
>>>>>>> problem, but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical
>>>>>>> drives, as lights appear and you get an error message if U try to
>>>>>>> action without a disk in the drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mart]

> Obviously the DVD drive is Kaput and as it was slaved to the other this
> drove them both wrong. The secret was to both disconnect the drive AND
> remove it from the hardware profile.

Precisely!! - I knew we'd get you there if we walked you far enough <g>
Well done Chris!!

> ... U give me more jobs than my dear wife! You think??

Like going shopping - for a new DVD (Charge it to "Housekeeping")

Mart


"Frenchy" > wrote in message
...
> What a saga! U give me more jobs than my dear wife!
>
> OK, if only the CDROM connected and booting to a an ME boot disk, it
> worked OK at the E: prompt and allowed CDROM access.
>
> If only the DVD drive connected and using boot disk, it showed a drive
> letter E, but a CDR:100 error when trying to /dir the drive. Note also
> this drives name in the initial boot screen shows as nonsense letters.
>
> With both drives connected and again to the boot disk, drives E and F have
> generic drivers entered and E (the CDROM) allows Dir/w and file access,
> while F: (the DVD) does not.
>
> Disconnected F drive and booted to Safe Mode (something I didn't do last
> time) and went into CONTROL PANEL/SYSTEM/DEVICES and removed the DVD drive
> from the hardware.
>
> Then rebooted and Voila, all is returned to normal and the CDROM drive
> name shows at boot and is working fine.
>
> Many thanks your patience in the walkthroughs.
>
> Obviously the DVD drive is Kaput and as it was slaved to the other this
> drove them both wrong. The secret was to both disconnect the drive AND
> remove it from the hardware profile.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Frenchy
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Chris, let's go back a little!! Don't go for Windows YET!!
>>
>> With BOTH CD-ROM drives (DVD & CD-ROM) connected, boot using your WinMe
>> (floppy) Startup Disk and select the 'With CD-ROM support' option and see
>> if they (assuming both are connected) are recognised in DOS.
>>
>> It *should* report a drive letter for each of your CD-ROM's which are not
>> necessarily the same letter as you would expect in Windows.
>>
>> You *should* see TWO CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen
>> *should* show:
>>> Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
>>> Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
>>> Your CD-ROM Is Drive E
>>
>> (Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
>> Drive F" - you won't, it will only show the one)
>>
>> When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
>> A:\> prompt.
>>
>> Now put a CD into the first CD-ROM and at the A:\> prompt, type "E:" (no
>> quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.
>>
>> Now, at the E:\> prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space)
>> Then press Return.
>>
>> You *should* get a 'proper' listing of the CD contents.
>>
>> Try again with the CD in the other drive, this time typing "F:" at the
>> "E:\>" prompt to change drives and at the F:\> prompt type "DIR /P" for
>> the listing.
>>
>> Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any
>>
>> Bed time again here - someone *may* be able to take over, or I'll
>> continue in the morning.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> OK, now things get crappy
>>>
>>> disabled each drive. HD OK.
>>>
>>> CDROM drive connected and shows the correct name at the boot screens,
>>> BUT gets Blue Screen of Death when booting through to Windows, note this
>>> is with the DVD Drive disconnected.
>>>
>>> If the DVD drive alone is connected it shows the hieroglyphics for its
>>> name at the boot screen, just as it does when both drives are connected.
>>> In other words, something suspicious with this DVD drive and as it ain't
>>> needed, I would leave it disconnected, BUT the BSOD shows error
>>>
>>> "I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either the file in .\iosubsystem
>>> sub directory is corrupt, or Memory low"
>>>
>>> Also, at another boot got a BOSD with "Windows general protection fault"
>>>
>>> It gets worse, as if I take it back to both drives connected, it boots
>>> through to almost the end (Just before icons appear on desktop) with an
>>> error message
>>>
>>> "Explorer caused an error in WININET.dll" and the computer just hangs
>>> there!
>>>
>>> shucks!!
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Frenchy - continued...
>>>>
>>>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>>>
>>>> The BIOS should re-detect and 'enumerate' each device, then show (some)
>>>> details (Type, manufacturer, model, etc.,) of each of the devices in
>>>> the BIOS screen.
>>>>
>>>> When you think that they are detected correctly - and it *may* take a
>>>> couple or so re-boots - then let the floppy continue to boot into Real
>>>> Mode DOS and see if you are able to use the DIR command sucessfully
>>>> this time.
>>>>
>>>> If so, remove the floppy and re-boot into Windows.
>>>>
>>>>>> ...... I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>>
>>>> OK, try to stick with this thread if you can and I'll keep 'watching'
>>>>
>>>> Mart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Wow!! - you just caught me before I go out for the next few hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them?
>>>>>> As the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do
>>>>>> that for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember, you are in the BIOS - NOT Windows, so you can't 'uninstall'
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, just disconnect the IDE (40w) cables (BUT DO THIS WITH THE POWER
>>>>> OFF of course!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only does the BIOS give 'conflicting info' re your CD-ROM's but it
>>>>> implies there is a conflict with your HDD (Primary Master)
>>>>>
>>>>> The logical set-up 'should/could' be :-
>>>>>
>>>>> a Primary Master = HD
>>>>> no Primary Slave
>>>>> a Secondary Master = one of the CD-ROM's (DVD)
>>>>> a Secondary Slave = the other CD-ROM
>>>>>
>>>>> And set them ALL to AUTO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got to dash - speak later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Ummm, not sure how to "throw them all off", do U mean unplug them?
>>>>>> As the ones labelled PIO don't have any option for Uninstall. Why do
>>>>>> that for the HD? It is only the CDROM's that are troublesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an older computer I keep in my office for when my 10 year old
>>>>>> (soon to be a geek) Grandson visits. I don't really look at it
>>>>>> unless there is a problem and this problem "happened" some time back,
>>>>>> but was certainly not there all the time. He would NOT have been
>>>>>> playing in the BIOS settings but may have been playing with a Tweak
>>>>>> UI type program, but denies doing that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The solution U have proposed below, is going to take a few days to
>>>>>> action (due to work and the visit of my Grandson for next 2 days), so
>>>>>> I will go kinda quiet for a few days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try not to miss me too much <grin>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should the drives be set to PIO or UDMA? I remember seeing that
>>>>>> option in some of the Tweaking programs but not something I have ever
>>>>>> played with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mart" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Yikes!!! Eight IDE devices on two controllers??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's the CD's eliminated too!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either your BIOS is telling you porkies or it isn't set up
>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a matter of interest, did this problem 'just happen'? Were
>>>>>>> things working normally and suddenly - out of the blue - stopped
>>>>>>> recognising your CD's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or had someone been playing in the BIOS? Can't understand why it
>>>>>>> shows PIO *and* UDMA - unless a 'faulty' motherboard. (Worst case!!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try 're-detecting' ALL your IDE devices in the BIOS. Throw them all
>>>>>>> off and connect and re-detect one device at a time starting with
>>>>>>> your HDD. (N.B. - If you leave your floppy Startup Disk in during
>>>>>>> this process, it will save you trying to boot to Windows each time
>>>>>>> and will therefore save you quite a bit of time. Just power-down or
>>>>>>> use Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot until you are ready to re-try Windows,
>>>>>>> then pull the floppy)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any 'Hardware Geeks' out there with other suggestions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frenchy" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Of course have tried different CD's in both drives and always same
>>>>>>>> Track01.cda etc up to 21 files appear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The BIOS recognises the Optical drives as Secondary Master (PIO)
>>>>>>>> and Secondary Slave (PIO), BUT the names appear as gibberish both
>>>>>>>> in the BIOS screen at boot as well as in any look at details, say
>>>>>>>> via AIDA or SYSTEM/DEVICES.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note this is a single Hard Disk Machine, unpartitioned, with the
>>>>>>>> two optical drives and a floppy. Athlon 1200 Mhz, a few years old
>>>>>>>> now, with 512 Mb RAM. It runs absolutely trouble free and no virus
>>>>>>>> or spyware on board, guaranteed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the BIOS setup, there shows:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Primary Master PIO
>>>>>>>> Primary Slave PIO
>>>>>>>> Secondary Master PIO
>>>>>>>> Secondary Slave PIO
>>>>>>>> Primary Master UDMA
>>>>>>>> Primary Slave UDMA
>>>>>>>> Secondary Master UDMA
>>>>>>>> Secondary Slave UDMA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything set to AUTO. The first four only have options for AUTO,
>>>>>>>> or modes 0, to 4 (no disable option). The last 4 had the option
>>>>>>>> for AUTO and DISABLE. I have tried disabling one or more and no
>>>>>>>> change. At present all the last 4 are disabled and all the same. I
>>>>>>>> tried setting the Sec Master PIO to Mode 0 and no change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The gibberish in the names that appear seems the heart of the
>>>>>>>> problem, but how to overcome? Power is getting on to the optical
>>>>>>>> drives, as lights appear and you get an error message if U try to
>>>>>>>> action without a disk in the drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frenchy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>