Scandisk & Defrag not running properly

[Webster72n]

Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the point
that they don't even seem to finish.
What can be done about it?

Harry.

[heirloom]

How much freespace do you have on your HD, Harry? Also, do the utilities
function properly in the Safe Mode??
Heirloom, old and could make a difference


"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
> Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the point
> that they don't even seem to finish.
> What can be done about it?
>
> Harry.
>
>

[Webster72n]

17.75 GB's on a 20 GB drive, that's plenty, Heirloom.
But I didn't run in Safe Mode yet.
As soon as I figured out how to go about it, I'll let you know.

Harry, old and helpful to accomplish that.



"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> How much freespace do you have on your HD, Harry? Also, do the utilities
> function properly in the Safe Mode??
> Heirloom, old and could make a difference
>
>
> "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the point
> > that they don't even seem to finish.
> > What can be done about it?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

[heirloom]

3.5% freespace ain't much, Harry..........not with all the swapping around
that has to be done. I could be mistaken, but, this may be a part of your
'slowdown.'
"As soon as you figured out how to go about it?"..........are you
questioning how to get into Safe Mode?....or how to run the utilities from
Safe Mode??
Heirloom, old and semi-confused

"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
>
> 17.75 GB's on a 20 GB drive, that's plenty, Heirloom.
> But I didn't run in Safe Mode yet.
> As soon as I figured out how to go about it, I'll let you know.
>
> Harry, old and helpful to accomplish that.
>
>
>
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> > How much freespace do you have on your HD, Harry? Also, do the
utilities
> > function properly in the Safe Mode??
> > Heirloom, old and could make a difference
> >
> >
> > "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the
point
> > > that they don't even seem to finish.
> > > What can be done about it?
> > >
> > > Harry.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Webster72n]

Heirloom:

Except for a brief interruption at about 90% completion of defrag
everything went smoothly in 'Safe mode'.
When defrag was near the end, it found a lot of files which belonged
at the beginning of the drive and they were transported there.
Asssumingly this was my problem, besides some sticking points in startup?
Maybe there's more?

Harry.


"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> How much freespace do you have on your HD, Harry? Also, do the utilities
> function properly in the Safe Mode??
> Heirloom, old and could make a difference
>
>
> "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the point
> > that they don't even seem to finish.
> > What can be done about it?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

[Webster72n]

Heirloom,
I am going to try and de-confuse you:
17.75% is the free space and only 2.25%+ occupied..
And where Safe mode is concerned, I managed allright.
Hoping now that everything is back to normal.

Harry.


"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> 3.5% freespace ain't much, Harry..........not with all the swapping around
> that has to be done. I could be mistaken, but, this may be a part of your
> 'slowdown.'
> "As soon as you figured out how to go about it?"..........are you
> questioning how to get into Safe Mode?....or how to run the utilities from
> Safe Mode??
> Heirloom, old and semi-confused
>
> "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > 17.75 GB's on a 20 GB drive, that's plenty, Heirloom.
> > But I didn't run in Safe Mode yet.
> > As soon as I figured out how to go about it, I'll let you know.
> >
> > Harry, old and helpful to accomplish that.
> >
> >
> >
> > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > How much freespace do you have on your HD, Harry? Also, do the
> utilities
> > > function properly in the Safe Mode??
> > > Heirloom, old and could make a difference
> > >
> > >
> > > "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Gradually the performance of these two utilities deminished to the
> point
> > > > that they don't even seem to finish.
> > > > What can be done about it?
> > > >
> > > > Harry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[heirloom]

Your original post re: freespace faked me out........I was under the
impression you had 17.75G occupied out of the 20G. Freespace is not a prob.
Are you using the Windows defragger or an aftermarket app? Some defrag apps
are a lot more efficient than others at moving files around. I use
Diskeeper 8, which, I believe, is made by the same folks that made the
defragger for XP.

As far as your "sticking points in startup"......you need to be a little
more specific before suggestions can be made, with the exception of
referring you to the following sites:
http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html
http://ww2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
http://www.greatis.com/regrun3appdatabase.htm
Note: I haven't used any of the above sites in a while, but, they should
still be good links. Check a number of them, they will tell you what is
NEEDED at startup and what is simple 'fluff' or bad stuff.
Heirloom, old and hope that helps
"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
> Heirloom:
>
> Except for a brief interruption at about 90% completion of defrag
> everything went smoothly in 'Safe mode'.
> When defrag was near the end, it found a lot of files which belonged
> at the beginning of the drive and they were transported there.
> Asssumingly this was my problem, besides some sticking points in startup?
> Maybe there's more?
>
> Harry.
>

[Webster72n]

Heirloom:

Startup is bypassed in Safe mode, am I correct? That's the reason for my
remark about "sticking points", because it must have caused the problem with
defrag. Thanks for the links and the tip for Diskeeper 8.
Once I get through with that, I'll let you know the results.

Harry.


"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> Your original post re: freespace faked me out........I was under the
> impression you had 17.75G occupied out of the 20G. Freespace is not a
prob.
> Are you using the Windows defragger or an aftermarket app? Some defrag
apps
> are a lot more efficient than others at moving files around. I use
> Diskeeper 8, which, I believe, is made by the same folks that made the
> defragger for XP.
>
> As far as your "sticking points in startup"......you need to be a little
> more specific before suggestions can be made, with the exception of
> referring you to the following sites:
> http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html
> http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html
> http://ww2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
> http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
> http://www.greatis.com/regrun3appdatabase.htm
> Note: I haven't used any of the above sites in a while, but, they should
> still be good links. Check a number of them, they will tell you what is
> NEEDED at startup and what is simple 'fluff' or bad stuff.
> Heirloom, old and hope that helps
> "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Heirloom:
> >
> > Except for a brief interruption at about 90% completion of defrag
> > everything went smoothly in 'Safe mode'.
> > When defrag was near the end, it found a lot of files which belonged
> > at the beginning of the drive and they were transported there.
> > Asssumingly this was my problem, besides some sticking points in
startup?
> > Maybe there's more?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
>
>

[heirloom]

Safe Mode will bypass items in the Start Up axis, loading only the necessary
drivers and such for Windows, hence, an excellent troubleshooting step. The
sites I listed will assist you in narrowing down your 'slowdown' issue if it
is a result of a running process.
Don't take my use of Diskeeper 8 as a tip, it just happens to be what I use.
Since moving to EZ AV from eTrust, I am unable to run this defragger
normally. I have to execute it manually with the AV in the snooze mode or
it will hang. The app put out by the late Koldbear and associates,
ScanDefrag, has had a lot of success, however, I could not get it to work on
my machine. There are a number of good defraggers on the market, in fact, I
am not aware of major drawbacks to the Windows Me defragger.....other than
being slower and that may be entirely due to using the Applog for
arrangement of files.
Heirloom, old and need to get ready


"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
>
> Heirloom:
>
> Startup is bypassed in Safe mode, am I correct? That's the reason for my
> remark about "sticking points", because it must have caused the problem
with
> defrag. Thanks for the links and the tip for Diskeeper 8.
> Once I get through with that, I'll let you know the results.
>
> Harry.

[Webster72n]

Thanks for the info, Heirloom.
I'll make good use of it.
BTW how are things with your cross?

Harry.


"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> Safe Mode will bypass items in the Start Up axis, loading only the
necessary
> drivers and such for Windows, hence, an excellent troubleshooting step.
The
> sites I listed will assist you in narrowing down your 'slowdown' issue if
it
> is a result of a running process.
> Don't take my use of Diskeeper 8 as a tip, it just happens to be what I
use.
> Since moving to EZ AV from eTrust, I am unable to run this defragger
> normally. I have to execute it manually with the AV in the snooze mode or
> it will hang. The app put out by the late Koldbear and associates,
> ScanDefrag, has had a lot of success, however, I could not get it to work
on
> my machine. There are a number of good defraggers on the market, in fact,
I
> am not aware of major drawbacks to the Windows Me defragger.....other than
> being slower and that may be entirely due to using the Applog for
> arrangement of files.
> Heirloom, old and need to get ready
>
>
> "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Heirloom:
> >
> > Startup is bypassed in Safe mode, am I correct? That's the reason for my
> > remark about "sticking points", because it must have caused the problem
> with
> > defrag. Thanks for the links and the tip for Diskeeper 8.
> > Once I get through with that, I'll let you know the results.
> >
> > Harry.
>
>

[Heather]

It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.

Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!

"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
>
> Thanks for the info, Heirloom.
> I'll make good use of it.
> BTW how are things with your cross?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Safe Mode will bypass items in the Start Up axis, loading only the
> necessary
> > drivers and such for Windows, hence, an excellent troubleshooting step.
> The
> > sites I listed will assist you in narrowing down your 'slowdown' issue
if
> it
> > is a result of a running process.
> > Don't take my use of Diskeeper 8 as a tip, it just happens to be what I
> use.
> > Since moving to EZ AV from eTrust, I am unable to run this defragger
> > normally. I have to execute it manually with the AV in the snooze mode
or
> > it will hang. The app put out by the late Koldbear and associates,
> > ScanDefrag, has had a lot of success, however, I could not get it to
work
> on
> > my machine. There are a number of good defraggers on the market, in
fact,
> I
> > am not aware of major drawbacks to the Windows Me defragger.....other
than
> > being slower and that may be entirely due to using the Applog for
> > arrangement of files.
> > Heirloom, old and need to get ready
> >
> >
> > "Webster72n" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Heirloom:
> > >
> > > Startup is bypassed in Safe mode, am I correct? That's the reason for
my
> > > remark about "sticking points", because it must have caused the
problem
> > with
> > > defrag. Thanks for the links and the tip for Diskeeper 8.
> > > Once I get through with that, I'll let you know the results.
> > >
> > > Harry.
> >
> >
>
>

[Joan Archer]

I should think so too <g>
Joan

Heather wrote:
> It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
>
> Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
>

[Heather]

Did you know she looks about 20......what in heck is she doing with that
*ornery old Texan*......ROFL!!

XX Figgs

"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> I should think so too <g>
> Joan
>
> Heather wrote:
> > It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
> >
> > Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
> >

[heirloom]

It's doing fine and has a nice new home in a pretty little church in west
Texas, thank you, Harry.

As for you, Figgs, that was a very "cross" thing to say, hex, hex, hex.
Jeor;pp,, old and that's what happens when
your right hand isn't on the home keys.


"Webster72n" > wrote in message
...
>
> Thanks for the info, Heirloom.
> I'll make good use of it.
> BTW how are things with your cross?
>
> Harry.

[heirloom]

She is 20............inches in the inseam. That 'youthful' look is a direct
result from being with that "ornery old Texan"........we know better than to
'ride 'em hard and put 'em up wet.'
Heirloom, old and ride like I stole it

"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> Did you know she looks about 20......what in heck is she doing with that
> *ornery old Texan*......ROFL!!
>
> XX Figgs
>
> "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I should think so too <g>
> > Joan
> >
> > Heather wrote:
> > > It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
> > >
> > > Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
> > >
>
>

[Joan Archer]

ROFL
I'm always doing that <g>
Joan

heirloom wrote:
..
> Jeor;pp,, old and that's what happens when
> your right hand isn't on the home keys.
>
>

[Webster72n]

Your humor is refreshing, Old (Young) Boy.
Can I stay in town?

Harry.


"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> She is 20............inches in the inseam. That 'youthful' look is a
direct
> result from being with that "ornery old Texan"........we know better than
to
> 'ride 'em hard and put 'em up wet.'
> Heirloom, old and ride like I stole it
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Did you know she looks about 20......what in heck is she doing with that
> > *ornery old Texan*......ROFL!!
> >
> > XX Figgs
> >
> > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I should think so too <g>
> > > Joan
> > >
> > > Heather wrote:
> > > > It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
> > > >
> > > > Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Heather]

Well...now you have done it!! Probably shocked the heck out of our resident
Brits!! I wonder if they know that expression......grin.

Sigh......Loon, you are incorrigible!!

XX Figgs

"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> She is 20............inches in the inseam. That 'youthful' look is a
direct
> result from being with that "ornery old Texan"........we know better than
to
> 'ride 'em hard and put 'em up wet.'
> Heirloom, old and ride like I stole it
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Did you know she looks about 20......what in heck is she doing with that
> > *ornery old Texan*......ROFL!!
> >
> > XX Figgs
> >
> > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I should think so too <g>
> > > Joan
> > >
> > > Heather wrote:
> > > > It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
> > > >
> > > > Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[heirloom]

Not incorrigible, Figgs........honest. She is short......reeeeeal short.
No legs, her feet are connected to her cheeks. Got a cute little 'waddle',
though. Think I'll buy her a tux for Halloween and she can go as a penguin.
Heirloom, old and gettin' outta Dodge

"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> Well...now you have done it!! Probably shocked the heck out of our
resident
> Brits!! I wonder if they know that expression......grin.
>
> Sigh......Loon, you are incorrigible!!
>
> XX Figgs
>
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> > She is 20............inches in the inseam. That 'youthful' look is a
> direct
> > result from being with that "ornery old Texan"........we know better
than
> to
> > 'ride 'em hard and put 'em up wet.'
> > Heirloom, old and ride like I stole it
> >
> > "Heather" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Did you know she looks about 20......what in heck is she doing with
that
> > > *ornery old Texan*......ROFL!!
> > >
> > > XX Figgs
> > >
> > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I should think so too <g>
> > > > Joan
> > > >
> > > > Heather wrote:
> > > > > It is his *wife* that bears the cross!! (VBG) Poor lady.
> > > > >
> > > > > Figgs, who is leaving town after that remark!!
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Joan Archer]

ROFL
I should think you are getting out <g> does she know what you're saying
about her, and don't forget I know what she looks like <g>
Joan

heirloom wrote:
> Not incorrigible, Figgs........honest. She is short......reeeeeal short.
> No legs, her feet are connected to her cheeks. Got a cute little 'waddle',
> though. Think I'll buy her a tux for Halloween and she can go as a penguin.
> Heirloom, old and gettin' outta Dodge
>

[Heather]

He better grovel a lot first......I am short too. 5' 3" of feistiness!!
Maybe we should phone Mrs. Loon and read this out to her......LOL.

Penguin......hah!!

HF
"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> ROFL
> I should think you are getting out <g> does she know what you're saying
> about her, and don't forget I know what she looks like <g>
> Joan
>
> heirloom wrote:
> > Not incorrigible, Figgs........honest. She is short......reeeeeal
short.
> > No legs, her feet are connected to her cheeks. Got a cute little
'waddle',
> > though. Think I'll buy her a tux for Halloween and she can go as a
penguin.
> > Heirloom, old and gettin' outta Dodge
> >

[Jack E Martinelli]

Come on down to Tyler during the last eight days of Feb, Figgs, and bring
Joan, and you can straighten this out, face to face.
Befoe we're finished, Loon will be ten pounds lighter. And Ch... will be
very happy, even if still short.

I''ll bring a tux for the "operation", so there will be at least one
"penguin" witness.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
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"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> He better grovel a lot first......I am short too. 5' 3" of feistiness!!
> Maybe we should phone Mrs. Loon and read this out to her......LOL.
>
> Penguin......hah!!
>
> HF
> "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > ROFL
> > I should think you are getting out <g> does she know what you're saying
> > about her, and don't forget I know what she looks like <g>
> > Joan
> >
> > heirloom wrote:
> > > Not incorrigible, Figgs........honest. She is short......reeeeeal
> short.
> > > No legs, her feet are connected to her cheeks. Got a cute little
> 'waddle',
> > > though. Think I'll buy her a tux for Halloween and she can go as a
> penguin.
> > > Heirloom, old and gettin' outta Dodge
> > >

[Joan Archer]

<lol> Have you noticed how he has suddenly gone very quiet in this
thread <vbg>
Joan

Jack E Martinelli wrote:
> Come on down to Tyler during the last eight days of Feb, Figgs, and bring
> Joan, and you can straighten this out, face to face.
> Befoe we're finished, Loon will be ten pounds lighter. And Ch... will be
> very happy, even if still short.
>
> I''ll bring a tux for the "operation", so there will be at least one
> "penguin" witness.

[heirloom]

........nursing my wounds.
Heirloom, old and short women punch low

"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> <lol> Have you noticed how he has suddenly gone very quiet in this
> thread <vbg>
> Joan
>
> Jack E Martinelli wrote:
> > Come on down to Tyler during the last eight days of Feb, Figgs, and
bring
> > Joan, and you can straighten this out, face to face.
> > Befoe we're finished, Loon will be ten pounds lighter. And Ch... will
be
> > very happy, even if still short.
> >
> > I''ll bring a tux for the "operation", so there will be at least one
> > "penguin" witness.

[Joan Archer]

ROFL
That'll teach you <g>
Joan

heirloom wrote:
> ........nursing my wounds.
> Heirloom, old and short women punch low
>