Blank Desktop

[bandit1965]

While using my computer yesterday I had some errors come
up saying some programs were shuting down (not sure what
they were). Then I had the blue screen of death followed
by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed that no
programs were running (none), shutting the computer down
and restating did not help, blank desktop. I started in
safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to what
went wrong and how to fix it?

[Jack E Martinelli]

It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
A virus infection is quite possible.

Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV tool, F-Prot.
Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file and examine your
suspect machine.
www.f-prot.com
------

""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you
cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is
booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
the
line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the
floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after
which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB
279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt"
(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
> While using my computer yesterday I had some errors come
> up saying some programs were shuting down (not sure what
> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death followed
> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed that no
> programs were running (none), shutting the computer down
> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I started in
> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to what
> went wrong and how to fix it?

[bandit1965]

>-----Original Message-----
>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>A virus infection is quite possible.
>
>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
tool, F-Prot.
>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file and
examine your
>suspect machine.
>www.f-prot.com
>------
>
>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
command prompt when you
>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What
is involved is
>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>the
>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe.
After removing the
>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager
is launched after
>which you may be able to run System Restore. For full
details see MS KB
>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
Command Prompt"
>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>--
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>
>--
>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
Shell/User / DTS
>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
spx
>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>------
>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>> While using my computer yesterday I had some errors come
>> up saying some programs were shuting down (not sure what
>> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death followed
>> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed that
no
>> programs were running (none), shutting the computer down
>> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I started in
>> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to what
>> went wrong and how to fix it?
>
>
>.
>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot disk
for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus checkfrom
dos?

[heirloom]

Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
Heirloom, old and oughta work

"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
> >A virus infection is quite possible.
> >
> >Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
> tool, F-Prot.
> >Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file and
> examine your
> >suspect machine.
> >www.f-prot.com
> >------
> >
> >""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
> command prompt when you
> >cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What
> is involved is
> >booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
> >the
> >line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe.
> After removing the
> >floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager
> is launched after
> >which you may be able to run System Restore. For full
> details see MS KB
> >279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
> Command Prompt"
> >(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
> >--
> >Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
> >
> >--
> >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
> Shell/User / DTS
> >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
> spx
> >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >------
> >"bandit1965" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> While using my computer yesterday I had some errors come
> >> up saying some programs were shuting down (not sure what
> >> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death followed
> >> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed that
> no
> >> programs were running (none), shutting the computer down
> >> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I started in
> >> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to what
> >> went wrong and how to fix it?
> >
> >
> >.
> >Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot disk
> for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus checkfrom
> dos?

[Jack E Martinelli]

I concur with heirloom.
The F-Prot site has all the details.

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
> Heirloom, old and oughta work
>
> "bandit1965" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
> > >A virus infection is quite possible.
> > >
> > >Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
> > tool, F-Prot.
> > >Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file and
> > examine your
> > >suspect machine.
> > >www.f-prot.com
> > >------
> > >
> > >""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
> > command prompt when you
> > >cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What
> > is involved is
> > >booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
> > >the
> > >line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe.
> > After removing the
> > >floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager
> > is launched after
> > >which you may be able to run System Restore. For full
> > details see MS KB
> > >279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
> > Command Prompt"
> > >(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
> > >--
> > >Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
> > Shell/User / DTS
> > >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
> > spx
> > >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > >------
> > >"bandit1965" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> While using my computer yesterday I had some errors come
> > >> up saying some programs were shuting down (not sure what
> > >> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death followed
> > >> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed that
> > no
> > >> programs were running (none), shutting the computer down
> > >> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I started in
> > >> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to what
> > >> went wrong and how to fix it?
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot disk
> > for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check from
> > dos?
>
>

[bandit1965]

>-----Original Message-----
>I concur with heirloom.
>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>
>--
>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
Shell/User / DTS
>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
spx
>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>------
>"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
>> Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>> Heirloom, old and oughta
work
>>
>> "bandit1965" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>> > >A virus infection is quite possible.
>> > >
>> > >Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
>> > tool, F-Prot.
>> > >Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file
and
>> > examine your
>> > >suspect machine.
>> > >www.f-prot.com
>> > >------
>> > >
>> > >""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
>> > command prompt when you
>> > >cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
What
>> > is involved is
>> > >booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>> > >the
>> > >line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
shell=progman.exe.
>> > After removing the
>> > >floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
Manager
>> > is launched after
>> > >which you may be able to run System Restore. For
full
>> > details see MS KB
>> > >279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
>> > Command Prompt"
>> > >(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>> > >--
>> > >Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>> > Shell/User / DTS
>> > >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>> > >
>> >
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
>> > spx
>> > >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>> > >------
>> > >"bandit1965" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >> While using my computer yesterday I had some
errors come
>> > >> up saying some programs were shuting down (not
sure what
>> > >> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
followed
>> > >> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
that
>> > no
>> > >> programs were running (none), shutting the
computer down
>> > >> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
started in
>> > >> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to
what
>> > >> went wrong and how to fix it?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot
disk
>> > for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check
from
>> > dos?
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton Antivirus,
no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other than
use my recovery disk and start over. Any other suggestions
would be very helpful, thanks.

[heirloom]

Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in this case?...before
going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
Heirloom, old and grabbing for straws

"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I concur with heirloom.
> >The F-Prot site has all the details.
> >
> >--
> >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
> Shell/User / DTS
> >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
> spx
> >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >------
> >"heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
> >> Heirloom, old and oughta
> work
> >>
> >> "bandit1965" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
> >> > >A virus infection is quite possible.
> >> > >
> >> > >Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
> >> > tool, F-Prot.
> >> > >Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file
> and
> >> > examine your
> >> > >suspect machine.
> >> > >www.f-prot.com
> >> > >------
> >> > >
> >> > >""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
> >> > command prompt when you
> >> > >cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
> What
> >> > is involved is
> >> > >booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
> >> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
> >> > >the
> >> > >line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
> shell=progman.exe.
> >> > After removing the
> >> > >floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
> Manager
> >> > is launched after
> >> > >which you may be able to run System Restore. For
> full
> >> > details see MS KB
> >> > >279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
> >> > Command Prompt"
> >> > >(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
> >> > >--
> >> > >Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
> >> > >
> >> > >--
> >> > >Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
> >> > Shell/User / DTS
> >> > >Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >> > >
> >> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
> >> > spx
> >> > >Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >> > >------
> >> > >"bandit1965" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > >> While using my computer yesterday I had some
> errors come
> >> > >> up saying some programs were shuting down (not
> sure what
> >> > >> they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
> followed
> >> > >> by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
> that
> >> > no
> >> > >> programs were running (none), shutting the
> computer down
> >> > >> and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
> started in
> >> > >> safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to
> what
> >> > >> went wrong and how to fix it?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >.
> >> > >Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot
> disk
> >> > for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check
> from
> >> > dos?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton Antivirus,
> no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other than
> use my recovery disk and start over. Any other suggestions
> would be very helpful, thanks.

[John John]

It could also be caused by a "broken" Internet Explorer. The user might
be able to launch the repair tool from a command prompt boot.

John

heirloom wrote:

> Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in this case?...before
> going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
> Heirloom, old and grabbing for straws
>
> "bandit1965" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I concur with heirloom.
>>>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>
>>Shell/User / DTS
>>
>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
>>
>>spx
>>
>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>------
>>>"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>>>> Heirloom, old and oughta
>>
>>work
>>
>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>>>>>>A virus infection is quite possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable AV
>>>>>
>>>>>tool, F-Prot.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>examine your
>>>>>
>>>>>>suspect machine.
>>>>>>www.f-prot.com
>>>>>>------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
>>>>>
>>>>>command prompt when you
>>>>>
>>>>>>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
>>
>>What
>>
>>>>>is involved is
>>>>>
>>>>>>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>>>>>
>>>>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
>>
>>shell=progman.exe.
>>
>>>>>After removing the
>>>>>
>>>>>>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
>>
>>Manager
>>
>>>>>is launched after
>>>>>
>>>>>>which you may be able to run System Restore. For
>>
>>full
>>
>>>>>details see MS KB
>>>>>
>>>>>>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a
>>>>>
>>>>>Command Prompt"
>>>>>
>>>>>>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>
>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>
>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
>>>
>>>>>spx
>>>>>
>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>------
>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>While using my computer yesterday I had some
>>
>>errors come
>>
>>>>>>>up saying some programs were shuting down (not
>>
>>sure what
>>
>>>>>>>they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
>>
>>followed
>>
>>>>>>>by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
>>
>>that
>>
>>>>>no
>>>>>
>>>>>>>programs were running (none), shutting the
>>
>>computer down
>>
>>>>>>>and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
>>
>>started in
>>
>>>>>>>safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to
>>
>>what
>>
>>>>>>>went wrong and how to fix it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot
>>
>>disk
>>
>>>>>for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check
>>
>>from
>>
>>>>>dos?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton Antivirus,
>>
>>no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other than
>>use my recovery disk and start over. Any other suggestions
>>would be very helpful, thanks.
>
>
>

[bandit1965]

>-----Original Message-----
>It could also be caused by a "broken" Internet Explorer.
The user might
>be able to launch the repair tool from a command prompt
boot.
>
>John
>
>heirloom wrote:
>
>> Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in
this case?...before
>> going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
>> Heirloom, old and grabbing for
straws
>>
>> "bandit1965" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I concur with heirloom.
>>>>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>
>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>
>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul
t.a
>>>
>>>spx
>>>
>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>------
>>>>"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>>>>> Heirloom, old and oughta
>>>
>>>work
>>>
>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>>>>>>>A virus infection is quite possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable
AV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tool, F-Prot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>examine your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>suspect machine.
>>>>>>>www.f-prot.com
>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>command prompt when you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
>>>
>>>What
>>>
>>>>>>is involved is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
>>>
>>>shell=progman.exe.
>>>
>>>>>>After removing the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
>>>
>>>Manager
>>>
>>>>>>is launched after
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>which you may be able to run System Restore. For
>>>
>>>full
>>>
>>>>>>details see MS KB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From
a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Command Prompt"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul
t.a
>>>>
>>>>>>spx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>While using my computer yesterday I had some
>>>
>>>errors come
>>>
>>>>>>>>up saying some programs were shuting down (not
>>>
>>>sure what
>>>
>>>>>>>>they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
>>>
>>>followed
>>>
>>>>>>>>by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>programs were running (none), shutting the
>>>
>>>computer down
>>>
>>>>>>>>and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
>>>
>>>started in
>>>
>>>>>>>>safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to
>>>
>>>what
>>>
>>>>>>>>went wrong and how to fix it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot
>>>
>>>disk
>>>
>>>>>>for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check
>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>>>>dos?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton
Antivirus,
>>>
>>>no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other than
>>>use my recovery disk and start over. Any other
suggestions
>>>would be very helpful, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>.
>If I am able to get the Program Manager to work by
editing system.ini, is there anything else I can do
besides launchng system restore. By the way thanks to all
for the replys.

[John John]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;194177

John

bandit1965 wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>It could also be caused by a "broken" Internet Explorer.
>
> The user might
>
>>be able to launch the repair tool from a command prompt
>
> boot.
>
>>John
>>
>>heirloom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in
>
> this case?...before
>
>>>going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
>>> Heirloom, old and grabbing for
>
> straws
>
>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I concur with heirloom.
>>>>>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>
>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul
>
> t.a
>
>>>>spx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>------
>>>>>"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>>>>>> Heirloom, old and oughta
>>>>
>>>>work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>>>>>>>>A virus infection is quite possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-bootable
>
> AV
>
>>>>>>>tool, F-Prot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature file
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>examine your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>suspect machine.
>>>>>>>>www.f-prot.com
>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>command prompt when you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
>>>>
>>>>What
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>is involved is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
>>>>
>>>>shell=progman.exe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>After removing the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
>>>>
>>>>Manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>is launched after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>which you may be able to run System Restore. For
>>>>
>>>>full
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>details see MS KB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From
>
> a
>
>>>>>>>Command Prompt"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul
>
> t.a
>
>>>>>>>spx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>While using my computer yesterday I had some
>>>>
>>>>errors come
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>up saying some programs were shuting down (not
>>>>
>>>>sure what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
>>>>
>>>>followed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>programs were running (none), shutting the
>>>>
>>>>computer down
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
>>>>
>>>>started in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as to
>>>>
>>>>what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>went wrong and how to fix it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a boot
>>>>
>>>>disk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus check
>>>>
>>>>from
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>dos?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton
>
> Antivirus,
>
>>>>no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other than
>>>>use my recovery disk and start over. Any other
>
> suggestions
>
>>>>would be very helpful, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>.
>>If I am able to get the Program Manager to work by
>
> editing system.ini, is there anything else I can do
> besides launchng system restore. By the way thanks to all
> for the replys.

[bandit1965]

>-----Original Message-----
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;194177
>
>John
>
>bandit1965 wrote:
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>It could also be caused by a "broken" Internet
Explorer.
>>
>> The user might
>>
>>>be able to launch the repair tool from a command prompt
>>
>> boot.
>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in
>>
>> this case?...before
>>
>>>>going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
>>>> Heirloom, old and grabbing for
>>
>> straws
>>
>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>I concur with heirloom.
>>>>>>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>
>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defa
ul
>>
>> t.a
>>
>>>>>spx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>------
>>>>>>"heirloom" > wrote in
message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and oughta
>>>>>
>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>>>>>>>>>A virus infection is quite possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-
bootable
>>
>> AV
>>
>>>>>>>>tool, F-Prot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature
file
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>examine your
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>suspect machine.
>>>>>>>>>www.f-prot.com
>>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run
from a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>command prompt when you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
>>>>>
>>>>>What
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is involved is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
>>>>>
>>>>>shell=progman.exe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>After removing the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
>>>>>
>>>>>Manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is launched after
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>which you may be able to run System Restore. For
>>>>>
>>>>>full
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>details see MS KB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool
From
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>>>>>Command Prompt"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-
L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defa
ul
>>
>> t.a
>>
>>>>>>>>spx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in
message
...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>While using my computer yesterday I had some
>>>>>
>>>>>errors come
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>up saying some programs were shuting down (not
>>>>>
>>>>>sure what
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
>>>>>
>>>>>followed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>programs were running (none), shutting the
>>>>>
>>>>>computer down
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
>>>>>
>>>>>started in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as
to
>>>>>
>>>>>what
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>went wrong and how to fix it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a
boot
>>>>>
>>>>>disk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus
check
>>>>>
>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>dos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton
>>
>> Antivirus,
>>
>>>>>no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other
than
>>>>>use my recovery disk and start over. Any other
>>
>> suggestions
>>
>>>>>would be very helpful, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>.
>>>If I am able to get the Program Manager to work by
>>
>> editing system.ini, is there anything else I can do
>> besides launchng system restore. By the way thanks to
all
>> for the replys.
>
>.
>I can't get to the start menu John, at least I don't
think I can. I posted another thread about how I edited
the system.ini. Not sure what else to do.

[John John]

From the Command Prompt navigate to the Windows directory C:\Windows>
(or whereever Windows is installed on your pc) then enter this command:
control.exe appwiz.cpl That should open Add/Remove Programs. Double
click Internet Explorer and chose "Repair".

John

bandit1965 wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
>
> us;194177
>
>>John
>>
>>bandit1965 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>It could also be caused by a "broken" Internet
>
> Explorer.
>
>>>The user might
>>>
>>>
>>>>be able to launch the repair tool from a command prompt
>>>
>>>boot.
>>>
>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Question: Would a SCANREG /RESTORE be worth a shot in
>>>
>>>this case?...before
>>>
>>>
>>>>>going to all the trouble of reinstalling?
>>>>> Heirloom, old and grabbing for
>>>
>>>straws
>>>
>>>
>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>I concur with heirloom.
>>>>>>>The F-Prot site has all the details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defa
>
> ul
>
>>>t.a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>spx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>"heirloom" > wrote in
>
> message
>
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, that is the function of f-prot.
>>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and oughta
>>>>>>
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>It would appear that Windows is not fully loading.
>>>>>>>>>>A virus infection is quite possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Use another machine and obtain the floppy-
>
> bootable
>
>>>AV
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>tool, F-Prot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Create the bootable floppy with a new signature
>
> file
>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>examine your
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>suspect machine.
>>>>>>>>>>www.f-prot.com
>>>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>""Fortunately System Restore can often be run
>
> from a
>
>>>>>>>>>command prompt when you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is involved is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>booting to DOS using a floppy and editing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>line shell=explorer.exe reads instead
>>>>>>
>>>>>>shell=progman.exe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>After removing the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is launched after
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>which you may be able to run System Restore. For
>>>>>>
>>>>>>full
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>details see MS KB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool
>
> From
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>Command Prompt"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Shell/User / DTS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Help us help you: http://www.dts-
>
> L.org/goodpost.htm
>
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defa
>
> ul
>
>>>t.a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>spx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>------
>>>>>>>>>>"bandit1965" > wrote in
>
> message
>
...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>While using my computer yesterday I had some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>errors come
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>up saying some programs were shuting down (not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sure what
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>they were). Then I had the blue screen of death
>>>>>>
>>>>>>followed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>by my desktop going blank. Cntrl alt del revealed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>programs were running (none), shutting the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>computer down
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and restating did not help, blank desktop. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>started in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>safe mode but got a blank desktop. Any ideas as
>
> to
>
>>>>>>what
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>went wrong and how to fix it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>Can I try and boot the machine up just using a
>
> boot
>
>>>>>>disk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for ME? If I can, is it possible to run a virus
>
> check
>
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>dos?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>I used a boot disk and was able to run Norton
>>>
>>>Antivirus,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>no virus found. I'm not sure what else to do other
>
> than
>
>>>>>>use my recovery disk and start over. Any other
>>>
>>>suggestions
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>would be very helpful, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>If I am able to get the Program Manager to work by
>>>
>>>editing system.ini, is there anything else I can do
>>>besides launchng system restore. By the way thanks to
>
> all
>
>>>for the replys.
>>
>>.
>>I can't get to the start menu John, at least I don't
>
> think I can. I posted another thread about how I edited
> the system.ini. Not sure what else to do.