Serial Mouse won't move

[Ian]

An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason the
mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem is the
mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse (serial
compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed the
system.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse working
again on this old workhorse?

Thanks,

Ian

[Gary S. Terhune]

Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device Manager.
Restart.

If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse devices,
and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or you've tried a
different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume that there's a
hardware problem on the motherboard itself.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason the
> mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem is the
> mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse (serial
> compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
> installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed the
> system.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse working
> again on this old workhorse?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>
>
>

[pjp]

There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme file. For
example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought in 1985
still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have to change
the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first reboot
after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
> In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device
Manager.
> Restart.
>
> If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse
devices,
> and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or you've
tried a
> different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume that
there's a
> hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
>
> "Ian" > wrote in message
> ...
> > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason the
> > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem is
the
> > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse
(serial
> > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
> > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed the
> > system.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse working
> > again on this old workhorse?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
>

[Javad]

--Right-Click--> My Computer> Properties> Device Manager

Now remove all your mouse drivers and click "OK". Then restart your
computer. The mouse will be reinstalled and you may have your mouse working
again.

Javad



"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason the
> mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem is the
> mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse (serial
> compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
> installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed the
> system.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse working
> again on this old workhorse?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

Good to know!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"pjp" > wrote in message
...
> There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme file. For
> example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought in 1985
> still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have to change
> the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first reboot
> after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
> > In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device
> Manager.
> > Restart.
> >
> > If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse
> devices,
> > and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or you've
> tried a
> > different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume that
> there's a
> > hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> >
> > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason the
> > > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem is
> the
> > > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse
> (serial
> > > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
> > > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed the
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse working
> > > again on this old workhorse?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[PCR]

I have "SearchCSeries" in only one Registry key, & here it is. It isn't
"enabled", but my Logitech WheelMouse1 (PS/2) three-button mouse came
with this machine in... uh, early 2000.

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Logitech\MouseWare\Cur rentVersion\Technical
]
"CycleIrq"="0"
"ShareIrq"="0"
"DetectIPDevice"="On"
"ForcePS2EquipmentFlag"="Off"
"MonitorUnplug"="Off"
"APMMode"="SearchCurrent"
"APMPowerDown"="Off"
"PS2BIOSErrorCheck"="Off"
"BootSearch"="Off"
"PS2DetectIM"="On"
"PS2DetectPP"="On"
"RunTimeCommand"="On"
"PS2ReportRate"="40"
"PS2ExtCommandTiming"="10"
"PS2MotionFilter"="On"
"DetectKBD"="On"
"PS2Synchronization"="Off"
"PS2Access"="Default"
"PS2APIEmulation"="Off"
"PS2Device"="1"
"DebugTiming"="Off"
"SearchCSeries"="Off"
"QuickSearch"="On"
"SBoardFlags"="0"
"SBoardID"="LGI8100"
"ResetWinModif"="On"
"MouseHookDllEnable"="1"
"WheelMsgToVmouse"="1"


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"pjp" > wrote in message
...
| There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme
file. For
| example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought in
1985
| still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have to
change
| the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first
reboot
| after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
| > In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device
| Manager.
| > Restart.
| >
| > If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse
| devices,
| > and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or
you've
| tried a
| > different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume
that
| there's a
| > hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS MVP Shell/User
| >
| > "Ian" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some
reason the
| > > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the
problem is
| the
| > > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse
| (serial
| > > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have
not
| > > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly
changed the
| > > system.
| > >
| > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse
working
| > > again on this old workhorse?
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > >
| > > Ian
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
|
|

[pjp]

Thing cost me $180 Can. in 1985 but came with a LIFETIME warranty. I'm
actually currently exploring what they want to do about the "lifetime"
seeing as they've apprently discountinued any support for it at all in their
latest XP drivers which makes their warranty moot :(

It's being used right now on an old P120 running out in the barn playing
mp3's for the chickens at night :)

"Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
...
> Good to know!
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
>
> "pjp" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme file.
For
> > example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought in 1985
> > still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have to
change
> > the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first reboot
> > after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
> > > In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device
> > Manager.
> > > Restart.
> > >
> > > If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse
> > devices,
> > > and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or
you've
> > tried a
> > > different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume that
> > there's a
> > > hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS MVP Shell/User
> > >
> > > "Ian" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some reason
the
> > > > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the problem
is
> > the
> > > > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse
> > (serial
> > > > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have not
> > > > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly changed
the
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse
working
> > > > again on this old workhorse?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[pjp]

It only need be enabled for very early Logitech mice, specifically CSeries
which I'm guessing predates any "commonality" among serial mice and how they
communicated with the pc, e.g. it doesn't follow MS's design.

"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> I have "SearchCSeries" in only one Registry key, & here it is. It isn't
> "enabled", but my Logitech WheelMouse1 (PS/2) three-button mouse came
> with this machine in... uh, early 2000.
>
> REGEDIT4
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Logitech\MouseWare\Cur rentVersion\Technical
> ]
> "CycleIrq"="0"
> "ShareIrq"="0"
> "DetectIPDevice"="On"
> "ForcePS2EquipmentFlag"="Off"
> "MonitorUnplug"="Off"
> "APMMode"="SearchCurrent"
> "APMPowerDown"="Off"
> "PS2BIOSErrorCheck"="Off"
> "BootSearch"="Off"
> "PS2DetectIM"="On"
> "PS2DetectPP"="On"
> "RunTimeCommand"="On"
> "PS2ReportRate"="40"
> "PS2ExtCommandTiming"="10"
> "PS2MotionFilter"="On"
> "DetectKBD"="On"
> "PS2Synchronization"="Off"
> "PS2Access"="Default"
> "PS2APIEmulation"="Off"
> "PS2Device"="1"
> "DebugTiming"="Off"
> "SearchCSeries"="Off"
> "QuickSearch"="On"
> "SBoardFlags"="0"
> "SBoardID"="LGI8100"
> "ResetWinModif"="On"
> "MouseHookDllEnable"="1"
> "WheelMsgToVmouse"="1"
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "pjp" > wrote in message
> ...
> | There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme
> file. For
> | example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought in
> 1985
> | still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have to
> change
> | the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first
> reboot
> | after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.
> |
> | "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
> | > In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in Device
> | Manager.
> | > Restart.
> | >
> | > If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and mouse
> | devices,
> | > and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good (or
> you've
> | tried a
> | > different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to assume
> that
> | there's a
> | > hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Gary S. Terhune
> | > MS MVP Shell/User
> | >
> | > "Ian" > wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some
> reason the
> | > > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the
> problem is
> | the
> | > > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2 mouse
> | (serial
> | > > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I have
> not
> | > > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly
> changed the
> | > > system.
> | > >
> | > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial mouse
> working
> | > > again on this old workhorse?
> | > >
> | > > Thanks,
> | > >
> | > > Ian
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

[PCR]

I see. Really, I was just trying to show OP where that key was. Stick
around, pjp, just in case he has questions about any of the other stuff
in there.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"pjp" > wrote in message
...
| It only need be enabled for very early Logitech mice, specifically
CSeries
| which I'm guessing predates any "commonality" among serial mice and
how they
| communicated with the pc, e.g. it doesn't follow MS's design.
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > I have "SearchCSeries" in only one Registry key, & here it is. It
isn't
| > "enabled", but my Logitech WheelMouse1 (PS/2) three-button mouse
came
| > with this machine in... uh, early 2000.
| >
| > REGEDIT4
| >
| >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Logitech\MouseWare\Cur rentVersion\Technical
| > ]
| > "CycleIrq"="0"
| > "ShareIrq"="0"
| > "DetectIPDevice"="On"
| > "ForcePS2EquipmentFlag"="Off"
| > "MonitorUnplug"="Off"
| > "APMMode"="SearchCurrent"
| > "APMPowerDown"="Off"
| > "PS2BIOSErrorCheck"="Off"
| > "BootSearch"="Off"
| > "PS2DetectIM"="On"
| > "PS2DetectPP"="On"
| > "RunTimeCommand"="On"
| > "PS2ReportRate"="40"
| > "PS2ExtCommandTiming"="10"
| > "PS2MotionFilter"="On"
| > "DetectKBD"="On"
| > "PS2Synchronization"="Off"
| > "PS2Access"="Default"
| > "PS2APIEmulation"="Off"
| > "PS2Device"="1"
| > "DebugTiming"="Off"
| > "SearchCSeries"="Off"
| > "QuickSearch"="On"
| > "SBoardFlags"="0"
| > "SBoardID"="LGI8100"
| > "ResetWinModif"="On"
| > "MouseHookDllEnable"="1"
| > "WheelMsgToVmouse"="1"
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "pjp" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | There's also the "odd" setting etc. sometimes buried in the readme
| > file. For
| > | example, I have an old 3 button "C Series" Logitech mouse bought
in
| > 1985
| > | still works perfectly. However, for 9x windows to see it, I have
to
| > change
| > | the registry setting "SearchCSeries" to "enabled" after the first
| > reboot
| > | after installing Logitech's driver before it's seen.
| > |
| > | "Gary S. Terhune" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > Verify that the serial port is enabled in BIOS.
| > | > In Safe Mode, remove the serial port device and the mouse in
Device
| > | Manager.
| > | > Restart.
| > | >
| > | > If BIOS says it's enabled, and you've reinstalled the port and
mouse
| > | devices,
| > | > and still no good result, and you're *sure* the mouse is good
(or
| > you've
| > | tried a
| > | > different serial mouse with the same results), I'd have to
assume
| > that
| > | there's a
| > | > hardware problem on the motherboard itself.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > MS MVP Shell/User
| > | >
| > | > "Ian" > wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > > An old desktop PC (Win 98 SE) uses a serial mouse. For some
| > reason the
| > | > > mouse stopped working a few days ago. I do not believe the
| > problem is
| > | the
| > | > > mouse, as I have used it elsewhere. I have tried using PS/2
mouse
| > | (serial
| > | > > compatible) with an adapter to COM port. Again no luck. I
have
| > not
| > | > > installed any new hardware, software or otherwise knowingly
| > changed the
| > | > > system.
| > | > >
| > | > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the serial
mouse
| > working
| > | > > again on this old workhorse?
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks,
| > | > >
| > | > > Ian
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|