need to install Advanced Power Management - please help

[Adam]

I would like to install the following:
System Properties => Device Manager =>
System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"

Anyone know how?



My system consists of the following:

OS: Windows 98 SE
Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
RAM: 512MB
Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1

[Shep©]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:26:39 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Adam" > wrote :

>
>I would like to install the following:
>System Properties => Device Manager =>
>System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
>
>Anyone know how?
>
>
>
>My system consists of the following:
>
>OS: Windows 98 SE
>Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
>CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
>RAM: 512MB
>Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
>NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
>Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
>

Control Panel/Add New Hardware Wizard and let it scan or a quick
window's repair,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/repair.html

For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
be ACPI compliant including the mother board.Their correct drivers
must be correctly installed and the Windows Software ACPI must be
installed and if the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disalbe
ACPI it must be enabled.
You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
drivers pack/s.
HTH :)



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[mdp]

Make sure it is enabled in the BIOS under the Power Menu; Power Management.

"Adam" > wrote in message
om...
>
> I would like to install the following:
> System Properties => Device Manager =>
> System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
>
> Anyone know how?
>
>
>
> My system consists of the following:
>
> OS: Windows 98 SE
> Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
> CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> RAM: 512MB
> Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
> NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
> Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
>
>

[Spamotomy]

Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...

Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition.



"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:26:39 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> "Adam" > wrote :
>
> >
> >I would like to install the following:
> >System Properties => Device Manager =>
> >System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
> >
> >Anyone know how?
> >
> >
> >
> >My system consists of the following:
> >
> >OS: Windows 98 SE
> >Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
> >CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> >RAM: 512MB
> >Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
> >NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
> >Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
> >
>
> Control Panel/Add New Hardware Wizard and let it scan or a quick
> window's repair,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/repair.html
>
> For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> be ACPI compliant including the mother board.Their correct drivers
> must be correctly installed and the Windows Software ACPI must be
> installed and if the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disalbe
> ACPI it must be enabled.
> You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> drivers pack/s.
> HTH :)
>
>
>
> --
> Free Windows/PC help,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> remove obvious to reply
> email
> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

[Shep©]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Spamotomy" > wrote :

>
>Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
>
>Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
>In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
>"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
>which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition

You have mis-quoted.



For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
be ACPI compliant including the mother board.

Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows

Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
Support as you post above.

If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
set by default to,"On".

You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
drivers pack/s.
As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/




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[here_and_there]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:26:39 GMT, "Adam" > wrote:

>
>I would like to install the following:
>System Properties => Device Manager =>
>System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
>
>Anyone know how?
>
>
>
>My system consists of the following:
>
>OS: Windows 98 SE
>Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
>CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
>RAM: 512MB
>Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
>NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
>Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
>
When you go to Start, Settings, Control Panel, is there an option
"Power Management"?

[Adam]

My responses are inline ...


"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> "Spamotomy" > wrote :
>
> >
> >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> >
> >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
> >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
>
> You have mis-quoted.

Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".


>
> For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
>
> Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
>
> Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> Support as you post above.

"Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
all the hardware is already there.


>
> If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> set by default to,"On".

Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
And, I don't want that.


>
> You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> drivers pack/s.

Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
"Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.


> As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/

I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
the boot partition) used to boot the system.


>
> --
> Free Windows/PC help,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> remove obvious to reply
> email
> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

[Adam]

"Power Management" is set to "User Define" in the BIOS.



"mdp" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Make sure it is enabled in the BIOS under the Power Menu; Power Management.
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > I would like to install the following:
> > System Properties => Device Manager =>
> > System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
> >
> > Anyone know how?
> >
> >
> >
> > My system consists of the following:
> >
> > OS: Windows 98 SE
> > Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
> > CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> > RAM: 512MB
> > Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
> > NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
> > Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
> >
> >
>
>

[Adam]

Yes, there's a "Power Management" icon in Control Panel.



"here_and_there" > wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:26:39 GMT, "Adam" > wrote:
>
> >
> >I would like to install the following:
> >System Properties => Device Manager =>
> >System devices => "Advanced Power Management support"
> >
> >Anyone know how?
> >
> >
> >
> >My system consists of the following:
> >
> >OS: Windows 98 SE
> >Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05.
> >CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+
> >RAM: 512MB
> >Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP
> >NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM
> >Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
> >
> When you go to Start, Settings, Control Panel, is there an option
> "Power Management"?

[glee]

The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager is to
use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it detects APM
support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be able to
detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA drivers
version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA support
web site?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Adam" > wrote in message
om...
>
> My responses are inline ...
>
>
> "Shep©" > wrote in message
...
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> >
> > >
> > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > >
> > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
> > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> >
> > You have mis-quoted.
>
> Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
>
>
> >
> > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> >
> > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> >
> > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > Support as you post above.
>
> "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> all the hardware is already there.
>
>
> >
> > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > set by default to,"On".
>
> Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> And, I don't want that.
>
>
> >
> > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > drivers pack/s.
>
> Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
>
>
> > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
>
> I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> the boot partition) used to boot the system.
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Free Windows/PC help,
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > remove obvious to reply
> > email
> > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
>
>

[Adam]

I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.

I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
- auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
- manual "system device" selection method did not list
"Advanced Power Management support"

Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
"IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
"Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
"Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."

So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
"System devices" in "Device Manager".

Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.

Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
"System devices" in "Device Manager".



"glee" > wrote in message ...
> The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager is to
> use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it detects APM
> support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be able to
> detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA drivers
> version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA support
> web site?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > My responses are inline ...
> >
> >
> > "Shep©" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > > >
> > > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
> > > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> > >
> > > You have mis-quoted.
> >
> > Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> > an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> >
> >
> > >
> > > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> > >
> > > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> > >
> > > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > > Support as you post above.
> >
> > "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> > find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> > all the hardware is already there.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > > set by default to,"On".
> >
> > Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> > If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> > And, I don't want that.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > > drivers pack/s.
> >
> > Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> > "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> > After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
> >
> >
> > > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
> >
> > I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> > the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> > the boot partition) used to boot the system.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > remove obvious to reply
> > > email
> > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
> > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> >
> >
>

[Shep©]

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:51:07 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Adam" > wrote :

>
>I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
>
>I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
>- auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
>- manual "system device" selection method did not list
> "Advanced Power Management support"
>
>Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
>"IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
>installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
>enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
>For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
>DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
>For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
>with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
>automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
>"Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
>"Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
>
>So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
>there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
>"System devices" in "Device Manager".
>
>Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
>the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
>the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
>And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
>the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
>
>Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
>the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
>"System devices" in "Device Manager".
>
Possibly but you can also do a correct repair over-install as per,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/repair.html
That should fix it but remember them to clean the Registry,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/freeprog.html

HTH :)



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http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

[glee]

Usually, when the Stand-by options are missing it indicates that the machine does
not support stand-by mode, but you indicate that one of the two operating systems on
the same machine does have the settings, so that does not appear to be the case
here.

See if anything here helps:
Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box :
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=188134
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Adam" > wrote in message
m...
>
> I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
>
> I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
> - auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
> - manual "system device" selection method did not list
> "Advanced Power Management support"
>
> Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
> "IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
> installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
> enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
> For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
> DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
> For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
> with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
> automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
> "Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
> "Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
>
> So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
> there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> "System devices" in "Device Manager".
>
> Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
> the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
> the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
> And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
> the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
>
> Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
> the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> "System devices" in "Device Manager".
>
>
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
...
> > The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager is
to
> > use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it detects
APM
> > support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be able
to
> > detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA drivers
> > version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA
support
> > web site?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > >
> > > My responses are inline ...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Shep©" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > > > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > > > >
> > > > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > > > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > > > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
> > > > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> > > >
> > > > You have mis-quoted.
> > >
> > > Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> > > an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > > > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> > > >
> > > > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> > > >
> > > > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > > > Support as you post above.
> > >
> > > "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> > > find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> > > all the hardware is already there.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > > > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > > > set by default to,"On".
> > >
> > > Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> > > If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> > > And, I don't want that.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > > > drivers pack/s.
> > >
> > > Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> > > "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> > > After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
> > >
> > >
> > > > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
> > >
> > > I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> > > the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> > > the boot partition) used to boot the system.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > email
> > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
> > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Adam]

One of the two operating systems came from an old system.
The motherboard was upgraded but the "Suspend mode" was
never enabled in the BIOS. I think this might explain why
the Standby options are missing.

I'll try enabling "Suspend mode" later to see if
- "Advanced Power Management support" will be installed
- the Standby options will appear



"glee" > wrote in message ...
> Usually, when the Stand-by options are missing it indicates that the machine does
> not support stand-by mode, but you indicate that one of the two operating systems on
> the same machine does have the settings, so that does not appear to be the case
> here.
>
> See if anything here helps:
> Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box :
> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=188134
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
> >
> > I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
> > - auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
> > - manual "system device" selection method did not list
> > "Advanced Power Management support"
> >
> > Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
> > "IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
> > installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
> > enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
> > For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
> > DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
> > For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
> > with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
> > automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
> > "Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
> > "Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
> >
> > So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
> > there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> >
> > Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
> > the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
> > the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
> > And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
> > the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
> >
> > Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
> > the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> >
> >
> >
> > "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager is
> to
> > > use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it detects
> APM
> > > support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be able
> to
> > > detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA drivers
> > > version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA
> support
> > > web site?
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > >
> > > > My responses are inline ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Shep©" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > > > > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > > > > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > > > > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support" item,
> > > > > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> > > > >
> > > > > You have mis-quoted.
> > > >
> > > > Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> > > > an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > > > > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> > > > >
> > > > > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> > > > >
> > > > > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > > > > Support as you post above.
> > > >
> > > > "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> > > > find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> > > > all the hardware is already there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > > > > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > > > > set by default to,"On".
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> > > > If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> > > > And, I don't want that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > > > > drivers pack/s.
> > > >
> > > > Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> > > > "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> > > > After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
> > > >
> > > > I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> > > > the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> > > > the boot partition) used to boot the system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Adam]

Yikes! Installing Win98SE over itself sounds too scary.



"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:51:07 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> "Adam" > wrote :
>
> >
> >I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
> >
> >I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
> >- auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
> >- manual "system device" selection method did not list
> > "Advanced Power Management support"
> >
> >Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
> >"IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
> >installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
> >enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
> >For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
> >DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
> >For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
> >with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
> >automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
> >"Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
> >"Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
> >
> >So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
> >there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> >"System devices" in "Device Manager".
> >
> >Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
> >the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
> >the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
> >And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
> >the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
> >
> >Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
> >the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> >"System devices" in "Device Manager".
> >
> Possibly but you can also do a correct repair over-install as per,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/repair.html
> That should fix it but remember them to clean the Registry,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/freeprog.html
>
> HTH :)
>
>
>
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[Greg Hanson]

If Adam's main problem is that the clock gets
messed up in "suspend" mode, then another
less elegant solution is to get rid of
suspend mode. If I'm doing something
that must not be interrupted, like burning
a data CD ROM, I classify "suspend" as being
much like screen savers, more naughty
than nice if you burn CDs.

Does the software shut down actually
(well, mostly) power off the computer?
(Isn't that the "bare bones" of APM?)
Is this part actually NOT working?

Sure, the power management that powers down
the hard disk, etc. might be nice for
some applications...

It sounds like Adam has two boot partitions,
and one boots with APM and the other boots
without it. How could two installs of W98
from the very same install CD disk on the
very same machine give you such differences?
(Was APM disabled in BIOS for 2nd install?)

Were you trying to create a clean boot
with a relatively clean registry, or
did you consider CLONING the drive/partition?

I'm not pretending I have all the answers
but I hope my questions help lead to a
resolution.

I would tend to not discard Shep's idea
that Advanced Power Management is best
done by being detected during a full
windows install. If you really do find
a convenient way around that, I'd suspect
that Shep would be as glad as anybody
to learn a new trick.

Why you're getting two different installs
using two different drives(partitions)
on the very same system is a point to ponder.

[Shep©]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:55:27 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Adam" > wrote :

>
>Yikes! Installing Win98SE over itself sounds too scary.

Nah.The win98SE setup.exe was one of the last good moves MS made.It's
makes the system quite easy to repair so long as you remove nay
updates to Internet Explorer first,over-install and then add them back
:)



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[Shep©]

On 12 Nov 2004 23:20:40 -0800 It was a dark and stormy night when
(Greg Hanson) wrote :

>If Adam's main problem is that the clock gets
>messed up in "suspend" mode, then another
>less elegant solution is to get rid of
>suspend mode. If I'm doing something
>that must not be interrupted, like burning
>a data CD ROM, I classify "suspend" as being
>much like screen savers, more naughty
>than nice if you burn CDs.
>
>Does the software shut down actually
>(well, mostly) power off the computer?
>(Isn't that the "bare bones" of APM?)
>Is this part actually NOT working?
>
>Sure, the power management that powers down
>the hard disk, etc. might be nice for
>some applications...
>
>It sounds like Adam has two boot partitions,
>and one boots with APM and the other boots
>without it. How could two installs of W98
>from the very same install CD disk on the
>very same machine give you such differences?
>(Was APM disabled in BIOS for 2nd install?)
>
>Were you trying to create a clean boot
>with a relatively clean registry, or
>did you consider CLONING the drive/partition?
>
>I'm not pretending I have all the answers
>but I hope my questions help lead to a
>resolution.
>
>I would tend to not discard Shep's idea
>that Advanced Power Management is best
>done by being detected during a full
>windows install. If you really do find
>a convenient way around that, I'd suspect
>that Shep would be as glad as anybody
>to learn a new trick.
>
>Why you're getting two different installs
>using two different drives(partitions)
>on the very same system is a point to ponder.

The other way is just to go into the Device Mangler and change from
the Failsafe Default BIOS back to the Advanced Power Management BIOS
and windows will re-detect and install the correct components :)



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[Adam]

I'm happy with the system now so I'll leave Win98SE over-install for
another time. As they say ... if it ain't broke ... don't fix it. :)

Thanks for your suggestions and web pages ... they were quite helpful,
especially http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/acpi.html



"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:55:27 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> "Adam" > wrote :
>
> >
> >Yikes! Installing Win98SE over itself sounds too scary.
>
> Nah.The win98SE setup.exe was one of the last good moves MS made.It's
> makes the system quite easy to repair so long as you remove nay
> updates to Internet Explorer first,over-install and then add them back
> :)
>
>
>
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[Adam]

Thanks for your post ... the rest of my responses are inline ...


"Greg Hanson" > wrote in message
om...
> If Adam's main problem is that the clock gets
> messed up in "suspend" mode, then another
> less elegant solution is to get rid of
> suspend mode. If I'm doing something
> that must not be interrupted, like burning
> a data CD ROM, I classify "suspend" as being
> much like screen savers, more naughty
> than nice if you burn CDs.

I had no intention of leaving Suspend mode enabled for
long ... just long enough to possibly trigger installation of
"Advanced Power Management support"


>
> Does the software shut down actually
> (well, mostly) power off the computer?
> (Isn't that the "bare bones" of APM?)
> Is this part actually NOT working?

It's working ... just doing an investigative comparison of
two OS installations.


>
> Sure, the power management that powers down
> the hard disk, etc. might be nice for
> some applications...
>
> It sounds like Adam has two boot partitions,
> and one boots with APM and the other boots
> without it. How could two installs of W98
> from the very same install CD disk on the
> very same machine give you such differences?

No-no, the two boot partitions were not installed from
the same CD. One HDD is from an old system that
contains old software that I still need once in a while.
I still have the MSDN disks for that system.


> (Was APM disabled in BIOS for 2nd install?)

I don't recall.


>
> Were you trying to create a clean boot
> with a relatively clean registry, or
> did you consider CLONING the drive/partition?

No cloning ... see my response above.


>
> I'm not pretending I have all the answers
> but I hope my questions help lead to a
> resolution.

Thanks.


>
> I would tend to not discard Shep's idea
> that Advanced Power Management is best
> done by being detected during a full
> windows install. If you really do find
> a convenient way around that, I'd suspect
> that Shep would be as glad as anybody
> to learn a new trick.
>
> Why you're getting two different installs
> using two different drives (partitions)
> on the very same system is a point to ponder.

Nothing to ponder really ... old software is
hard to let go of.

[Shep©]

>Nothing to ponder really ... old software is
>hard to let go of.

Like old operating systems ;-)



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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:57:53 +0000 The moonlight laughed on the blades
edge when Shep© > wrote :

>
>>Nothing to ponder really ... old software is
>>hard to let go of.
>
>Like old operating systems ;-)

PS
Re-check that all your drives are using DMA with Nero info tool/Config
tab,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html

HTH :)



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[Adam]

Yeah, some old software requires old OSes.

Just checked and ... DMA=on for all drives.



"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:57:53 +0000 The moonlight laughed on the blades
> edge when Shep© > wrote :
>
> >
> >>Nothing to ponder really ... old software is
> >>hard to let go of.
> >
> >Like old operating systems ;-)
>
> PS
> Re-check that all your drives are using DMA with Nero info tool/Config
> tab,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html
>
> HTH :)
>
>
>
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[Shep©]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:25:15 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
edge when "Adam" > wrote :

>
>Yeah, some old software requires old OSes.
>
>Just checked and ... DMA=on for all drives.

I mentioned the DMA as it's a fundamental requirement for the full
speed of a system and often over-looked,espeacially when having had to
mess with hard drive drivers and ACPI.Incorrect DMA or disabled can
lose a user over 75% of the system speed as modern PCs are still
a,"DOS" system in the old original sense e.g,"Disk Operating System"
therefore any slow ups on the drives affects everything.



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[Adam]

Thanks!

FYI, the VIA 4in1 driver(s) has a DMA option (default is selected).
I'm not sure but I think that it sets DMA=on when the option is selected.

BTW, my system is running great. :)



"Shep©" > wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:25:15 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
> edge when "Adam" > wrote :
>
> >
> >Yeah, some old software requires old OSes.
> >
> >Just checked and ... DMA=on for all drives.
>
> I mentioned the DMA as it's a fundamental requirement for the full
> speed of a system and often over-looked,espeacially when having had to
> mess with hard drive drivers and ACPI.Incorrect DMA or disabled can
> lose a user over 75% of the system speed as modern PCs are still
> a,"DOS" system in the old original sense e.g,"Disk Operating System"
> therefore any slow ups on the drives affects everything.
>
>
>
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[Shep©]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:22:16 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
edge when "Adam" > wrote :

>
>Thanks!
>
>FYI, the VIA 4in1 driver(s) has a DMA option (default is selected).
>I'm not sure but I think that it sets DMA=on when the option is selected.
>
>BTW, my system is running great. :)

Yep.The VIS 4-in-1 drivers usually enable the dma as they are
loaded,same as the SIS chip set I'm on now :0



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[glee]

If one of the operating systems is out of another machine or was installed on the
old motherboard, you may have a lot of mis-detected hardware if you didn't do a
fresh install afterwards. What procedure did you follow to get the new system or
motherboard properly detected, and to remove the listed hardware left in Device
Manager from the old system?
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"Adam" > wrote in message
om...
>
> One of the two operating systems came from an old system.
> The motherboard was upgraded but the "Suspend mode" was
> never enabled in the BIOS. I think this might explain why
> the Standby options are missing.
>
> I'll try enabling "Suspend mode" later to see if
> - "Advanced Power Management support" will be installed
> - the Standby options will appear
>
>
>
> "glee" > wrote in message
...
> > Usually, when the Stand-by options are missing it indicates that the machine
does
> > not support stand-by mode, but you indicate that one of the two operating
systems on
> > the same machine does have the settings, so that does not appear to be the case
> > here.
> >
> > See if anything here helps:
> > Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box :
> > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=188134
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > >
> > > I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
> > >
> > > I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
> > > - auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
> > > - manual "system device" selection method did not list
> > > "Advanced Power Management support"
> > >
> > > Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
> > > "IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
> > > installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
> > > enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
> > > For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
> > > DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
> > > For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
> > > with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
> > > automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
> > > "Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
> > > "Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
> > >
> > > So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
> > > there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > >
> > > Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
> > > the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
> > > the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
> > > And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
> > > the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
> > > the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "glee" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager
is
> > to
> > > > use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it
detects
> > APM
> > > > support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be
able
> > to
> > > > detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA
drivers
> > > > version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA
> > support
> > > > web site?
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > >
> > > > > My responses are inline ...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Shep©" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > > > > > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > > > > > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > > > > > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support"
item,
> > > > > > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have mis-quoted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> > > > > an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > > > > > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > > > > > Support as you post above.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> > > > > find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> > > > > all the hardware is already there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > > > > > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > > > > > set by default to,"On".
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> > > > > If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> > > > > And, I don't want that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > > > > > drivers pack/s.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> > > > > "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> > > > > After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
> > > > >
> > > > > I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> > > > > the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> > > > > the boot partition) used to boot the system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
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[Adam]

That system was so old that it still had ISA slots in it.
Some of the cards in it were not even PnP,
which might have actually made things easier.
It did not have an AGP slot. It did not have a sound card.
All of these things made the upgrade pretty simple since
there was not much conflict.

For a newer system, I would remove everything possible from
the Device Manager in Safe mode and build from there.
Start with a minimum set of hardware (motherboard, video card,
keyboard, mouse, HDD, CDROM, floppy drive, etc.).
Then, when you get the minimal system working, add
additional hardware (NIC, modem, sound, etc.) one card at a time.

Then there's the registry approach for those who are
familiar with there way around the registry.

And, as is often the case, tasks like this is easier said than done. :)



"glee" > wrote in message ...
> If one of the operating systems is out of another machine or was installed on the
> old motherboard, you may have a lot of mis-detected hardware if you didn't do a
> fresh install afterwards. What procedure did you follow to get the new system or
> motherboard properly detected, and to remove the listed hardware left in Device
> Manager from the old system?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > One of the two operating systems came from an old system.
> > The motherboard was upgraded but the "Suspend mode" was
> > never enabled in the BIOS. I think this might explain why
> > the Standby options are missing.
> >
> > I'll try enabling "Suspend mode" later to see if
> > - "Advanced Power Management support" will be installed
> > - the Standby options will appear
> >
> >
> >
> > "glee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > Usually, when the Stand-by options are missing it indicates that the machine
> does
> > > not support stand-by mode, but you indicate that one of the two operating
> systems on
> > > the same machine does have the settings, so that does not appear to be the case
> > > here.
> > >
> > > See if anything here helps:
> > > Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box :
> > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=188134
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > m...
> > > >
> > > > I'm using VIA's 4-in-1 (v4.37) drivers.
> > > >
> > > > I just tried the Add New Hardware wizard:
> > > > - auto hardware detection did not find any new hardware
> > > > - manual "system device" selection method did not list
> > > > "Advanced Power Management support"
> > > >
> > > > Also, the Asus A7V133 User's Manual says the following:
> > > > "IMPORTANT: Advanced Power Management (APM) should be
> > > > installed to keep the system time updated when the computer
> > > > enters suspend mode activated by the BIOS Power Management.
> > > > For DOS environments, you need to add the statement,
> > > > DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE, to your CONFIG.SYS file.
> > > > For Windows 3.x and Windows 95, you need to install Windows
> > > > with the APM feature. For Windows 98 and later, APM is
> > > > automatically installed. A battery and power cord icon labeled
> > > > "Power Management" will appear in the "Control Panel." Choose
> > > > "Advanced" in the Power Management Properties dialog box."
> > > >
> > > > So, apparently, APM is already installed in my case but
> > > > there is no listing of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > > > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > > >
> > > > Also, comparing the Power Management Properties dialog of
> > > > the two HDD/partition, I noticed that the "Advanced" tab is missing
> > > > the "Prompt for password when computer goes off standby" checkbox.
> > > > And, the "Power Schemes" tab is missing the "System standby" dropdown list in
> > > > the "Settings for Always On power scheme" section.
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible that installing standby-related stuff may trigger
> > > > the addition of "Advanced Power Management support" under
> > > > "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "glee" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > > The procedure for adding Advanced Power Management support in Device Manager
> is
> > > to
> > > > > use the Add New Hardware wizard to search for new hardware, and if it
> detects
> > > APM
> > > > > support, to allow it to install, and then reboot. However, you may not be
> able
> > > to
> > > > > detect it without installing the drivers on motherboard disc. What VIA
> drivers
> > > > > version number did you install? Have you tried other versions from the VIA
> > > support
> > > > > web site?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > > om...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My responses are inline ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Shep©" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:54:50 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
> > > > > > > "Spamotomy" > wrote :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Okay, I think I'm a little confused ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Must I have ACPI in order to have "Advanced Power Management support" ?
> > > > > > > >In the "good" HDD/partition, there is no mention of ACPI under
> > > > > > > >"System devices" but there is an "Advanced Power Management support"
> item,
> > > > > > > >which is what I'm trying to replicate on the other HDD/partition
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have mis-quoted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mis-quoted? No, "Advanced Power Management support" is
> > > > > > an item under "System devices" in "Device Manager".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For ACPI to function correctly all hardware devices on the system must
> > > > > > > be ACPI compliant including the mother board.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Their correct drivers must be correctly installed and the Windows
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Software ACPI must be installed e.g the Advanced Power Management
> > > > > > > Support as you post above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Advanced Power Management support" is what I'm trying to
> > > > > > find out how to install without depending on hardware detection since
> > > > > > all the hardware is already there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the option is there in the BIOS to enable/disable
> > > > > > > ACPI it must be enabled.Many Modern systems either have it hidden and
> > > > > > > set by default to,"On".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm ... will I be able to enable ACPI without getting ACPI BIOS?
> > > > > > If not, then I will be "back to square one" like you said.
> > > > > > And, I don't want that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You may also need to re-install motherboard/mother board chip set
> > > > > > > drivers pack/s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh-no, trying to install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers caused the dreaded message:
> > > > > > "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer."
> > > > > > After which, I can only boot into Safe mode but not into Normal mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for talk of,"Partitions" you are now confusing me :/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use the BIOS to select the HDD (and thus, the boot partition) used for
> > > > > > the boot process. By "HDD/partition", I mean the HDD (and thus,
> > > > > > the boot partition) used to boot the system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
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