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mit
October 10th 04, 06:59 PM
I have ME on a laptop which connects to my network at home via wireless card.
Both the XP box (XP Home SP2) and the ME laptop can't see each other They are
both hooked up to a network switch which connects to a firewall box which then
goes out to the Internet via a dsl cable box. The XP firewall is disabled

Both are able to get on to the internet without a problem, both can ping each
other via IP (IP assigned by DHCP from firewall box 192.168.*.* range), both are
in the same workgroup. When I click on the entire network on the xp box it just
show my other PC on the network (a 2000 box which also has network problems but
I am not concerned with this one at the moment), if I do the same on the laptop
I get a error saying "Unable to browse the network, Window was unable to gain
access to the network"

If I run winipcfg on the Laptop in the hostname box I see saturn.homeDEST

Saturn is the Laptops name, home is the workgroup (which actually is in Capital
under identifacation) but I don't where the DEST comes from??

Another question, on the laptop what should I set the Gateway IP to?? should it
be the Access point IP address or should it be the Firewall IP (which it is on
the other 2 PC's), neither IP address makes any differents to my problem thought

Any suggestions

Tim

Carey Holzman
October 11th 04, 01:17 AM
www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PCs

Carey

"mit" > wrote in message
...
>I have ME on a laptop which connects to my network at home via wireless
>card. Both the XP box (XP Home SP2) and the ME laptop can't see each other
>They are both hooked up to a network switch which connects to a firewall
>box which then goes out to the Internet via a dsl cable box. The XP
>firewall is disabled
>
> Both are able to get on to the internet without a problem, both can ping
> each other via IP (IP assigned by DHCP from firewall box 192.168.*.*
> range), both are in the same workgroup. When I click on the entire network
> on the xp box it just show my other PC on the network (a 2000 box which
> also has network problems but I am not concerned with this one at the
> moment), if I do the same on the laptop I get a error saying "Unable to
> browse the network, Window was unable to gain access to the network"
>
> If I run winipcfg on the Laptop in the hostname box I see saturn.homeDEST
>
> Saturn is the Laptops name, home is the workgroup (which actually is in
> Capital under identifacation) but I don't where the DEST comes from??
>
> Another question, on the laptop what should I set the Gateway IP to??
> should it be the Access point IP address or should it be the Firewall IP
> (which it is on the other 2 PC's), neither IP address makes any differents
> to my problem thought
>
> Any suggestions
>
> Tim

Lou Ramsey
October 11th 04, 05:26 PM
Carey Holzman wrote:
> www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
> Tip #1 on all PCs

Tim,

As a word of caution, beware of advice that urges you to install
redundant protocols on your computer.

Windows Networking (including Windows ME) works fine with TCP/IP, and
NBT as an interface. Installing IPX / SPX may provide a workaround, but
is unnecessary on an otherwise healthy system.

Fix the problem, not the symptom.

In the DNS name "saturn.homeDEST", "homeDEST" is the DNS suffix. Look
under TCP/IP Properties - Advanced, on the DNS tab.

Take a look at ipconfig for the ME and XP computers. Start - Run -
"cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window.
Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Steve Winograd [MVP]
October 13th 04, 10:05 PM
In article >, "Carey Holzman"
> wrote:
>"mit" > wrote in message
...
>>I have ME on a laptop which connects to my network at home via wireless
>>card. Both the XP box (XP Home SP2) and the ME laptop can't see each other
>>They are both hooked up to a network switch which connects to a firewall
>>box which then goes out to the Internet via a dsl cable box. The XP
>>firewall is disabled
>>
>> Both are able to get on to the internet without a problem, both can ping
>> each other via IP (IP assigned by DHCP from firewall box 192.168.*.*
>> range), both are in the same workgroup. When I click on the entire network
>> on the xp box it just show my other PC on the network (a 2000 box which
>> also has network problems but I am not concerned with this one at the
>> moment), if I do the same on the laptop I get a error saying "Unable to
>> browse the network, Window was unable to gain access to the network"
>>
>> If I run winipcfg on the Laptop in the hostname box I see saturn.homeDEST
>>
>> Saturn is the Laptops name, home is the workgroup (which actually is in
>> Capital under identifacation) but I don't where the DEST comes from??
>>
>> Another question, on the laptop what should I set the Gateway IP to??
>> should it be the Access point IP address or should it be the Firewall IP
>> (which it is on the other 2 PC's), neither IP address makes any differents
>> to my problem thought
>>
>> Any suggestions
>>
>> Tim
>
>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
>Tip #1 on all PCs
>
>Carey

Tim, you look at the web site that Carey gave, don't be surprised that
you can't follow Tip #1. With a single exception, the settings that
it describes don't exist in Windows XP. For details:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&selm=73o5l01semenl9k4q45h9iddagc0j6ubo2%404ax.com

DEST might be coming from the firewall. See if it has a host or
domain name defined.

A common reason that Windows ME can't browse the network is that the
user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when ME starts? If so,
don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a user name and,
optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt, click Start | Log
Off or Start | Shut Down | Close all programs... and log back on. If
that makes network browsing work properly, the most likely fix is to
go to this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon

It might help to disable Browse Master on ME: Control Panel | Network
| File and Printer Sharing | Properties.

If those tips don't solve the problem, try these:

1. If the computers run the original or SP1 versions of Windows XP,
disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on local area
network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
to the Internet. If they run SP2, enable the exception for file and
printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. Disable and un-install all
other firewall programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
firewall program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs,
which might not completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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