Upgrade from Win98 to SE?

[Gary]

Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application which
doesn't work in the original version.

However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE - will it mess
up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older versions of
these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of reinstalling the
latest versions afterwards?

TIA
Gary

[Doug Kanter]

Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases EVERYTHING) and then
install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows update, get all the
necessary patches, and you're in business.

"Gary" . uk> wrote in
message ...
> Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application which
> doesn't work in the original version.
>
> However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE - will it
mess
> up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older versions
of
> these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of reinstalling
the
> latest versions afterwards?
>
> TIA
> Gary
>
>
>

[Larry]

Doug,

I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to SE, but isn't that
rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea of upgrading that you
don't have to wipe out everything, including all your installed
applications and customizations, and re-install them, a huge job that
could take days?

Larry



Doug Kanter wrote:
> Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases EVERYTHING) and
> then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows update, get
> all the necessary patches, and you're in business.
>
> "Gary" . uk> wrote in
> message ...
> > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application
> > which doesn't work in the original version.
> >
> > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE -
> > will it
> mess
> > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older
> > versions
> of
> > these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of
> > reinstalling
> the
> > latest versions afterwards?
> >
> > TIA
> > Gary,

[Doug Kanter]

Browse two weeks worth of messages in this newsgroup and see what sorts of
things can happen when you upgrade. You tell me what would be more
aggravating: Spending a week tracking down niggling little problems due to
the upgrade, and wondering if you've REALLY swatted all the flies, or
spending the same period of time in an orderly process which will result in
your machine running better than it did when you took it out of the box? If
you prefer choice A, go for it!

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
>
> Doug,
>
> I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to SE, but isn't that
> rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea of upgrading that you
> don't have to wipe out everything, including all your installed
> applications and customizations, and re-install them, a huge job that
> could take days?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Doug Kanter wrote:
> > Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases EVERYTHING) and
> > then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows update, get
> > all the necessary patches, and you're in business.
> >
> > "Gary" . uk> wrote in
> > message ...
> > > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application
> > > which doesn't work in the original version.
> > >
> > > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE -
> > > will it
> > mess
> > > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older
> > > versions
> > of
> > > these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of
> > > reinstalling
> > the
> > > latest versions afterwards?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Gary,
>
>

[Tim Slattery]

"Gary" . uk> wrote:

>Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application which
>doesn't work in the original version.
>
>However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE - will it mess
>up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older versions of
>these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of reinstalling the
>latest versions afterwards?

Upgrading shouldn't wipe out any installed programs or any of your
data. But it's always a good idea to backup anything you can't live
without before doing anything as drastic as an OS upgrade.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)

[Larry]

Ok. It's possible I may have to upgrade to SE at some point, just
because there are applications for which you need SE. But I had been
under the impression that upgrading from FE to SE was easy. It's
disturbing to find out that it's not, especially as, way back when, MS
came out with SE only a year after they came out with Windows 98.

Larry



Doug Kanter wrote:
> Browse two weeks worth of messages in this newsgroup and see what
> sorts of things can happen when you upgrade. You tell me what would
> be more aggravating: Spending a week tracking down niggling little
> problems due to the upgrade, and wondering if you've REALLY swatted
> all the flies, or spending the same period of time in an orderly
> process which will result in your machine running better than it did
> when you took it out of the box? If you prefer choice A, go for it!
>
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to SE, but isn't
> > that rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea of upgrading
> > that you don't have to wipe out everything, including all your
> > installed applications and customizations, and re-install them, a
> > huge job that could take days?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases EVERYTHING)
> > > and then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows
> > > update, get all the necessary patches, and you're in business.
> > >
> > > "Gary" . uk>
> > > wrote in message ...
> > > > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application
> > > > which doesn't work in the original version.
> > > >
> > > > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE -
> > > > will it
> > > mess
> > > > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older
> > > > versions
> > > of
> > > > these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of
> > > > reinstalling
> > > the
> > > > latest versions afterwards?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > Gary,

[Greg]

Upgrade it and then get all Win updates there
should be no drastic problems. All 98 drivers
will work with SE, it's not likee going from
98 to XP thaat scaress me to start with.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ok. It's possible I may have to upgrade to SE at some
point, just
>because there are applications for which you need SE.
But I had been
>under the impression that upgrading from FE to SE was
easy. It's
>disturbing to find out that it's not, especially as, way
back when, MS
>came out with SE only a year after they came out with
Windows 98.
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>Doug Kanter wrote:
>> Browse two weeks worth of messages in this newsgroup
and see what
>> sorts of things can happen when you upgrade. You tell
me what would
>> be more aggravating: Spending a week tracking down
niggling little
>> problems due to the upgrade, and wondering if you've
REALLY swatted
>> all the flies, or spending the same period of time in
an orderly
>> process which will result in your machine running
better than it did
>> when you took it out of the box? If you prefer choice
A, go for it!
>>
>> "Larry" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Doug,
>> >
>> > I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to
SE, but isn't
>> > that rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea
of upgrading
>> > that you don't have to wipe out everything, including
all your
>> > installed applications and customizations, and re-
install them, a
>> > huge job that could take days?
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Doug Kanter wrote:
>> > > Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases
EVERYTHING)
>> > > and then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run
Windows
>> > > update, get all the necessary patches, and you're
in business.
>> > >
>> > > "Gary"
. uk>
>> > > wrote in message news:cdrhv4
...
>> > > > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the
odd application
>> > > > which doesn't work in the original version.
>> > > >
>> > > > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems
with IE and OE -
>> > > > will it
>> > > mess
>> > > > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not
install older
>> > > > versions
>> > > of
>> > > > these applications? Or is it just a
straightforward case of
>> > > > reinstalling
>> > > the
>> > > > latest versions afterwards?
>> > > >
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Gary,
>
>
>.
>

[Gary]

"Greg" > wrote in message
...
> Upgrade it and then get all Win updates there
> should be no drastic problems. All 98 drivers
> will work with SE, it's not likee going from
> 98 to XP thaat scaress me to start with.

Thanks.

Wouldn't advise using XP, is a dreadful OS IMHO.

[Doug Kanter]

Larry, in some cases, it apparently works. In some, it does not. The best
practice is to pretend it will NOT work and prepare accordingly. That forces
you to adopt bulletproof (and habitual) backup procedures for your data
files. It's not a question of *IF* you will need to restore data from an
external storage medium. It's a matter of *WHEN*. It will happen, and if
don't have backups, you will be very sad.

So, try the upgrade. If you're happy with the results, fine. If not, you can
always do the reformat/fresh install routine.

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> Ok. It's possible I may have to upgrade to SE at some point, just
> because there are applications for which you need SE. But I had been
> under the impression that upgrading from FE to SE was easy. It's
> disturbing to find out that it's not, especially as, way back when, MS
> came out with SE only a year after they came out with Windows 98.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Doug Kanter wrote:
> > Browse two weeks worth of messages in this newsgroup and see what
> > sorts of things can happen when you upgrade. You tell me what would
> > be more aggravating: Spending a week tracking down niggling little
> > problems due to the upgrade, and wondering if you've REALLY swatted
> > all the flies, or spending the same period of time in an orderly
> > process which will result in your machine running better than it did
> > when you took it out of the box? If you prefer choice A, go for it!
> >
> > "Larry" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Doug,
> > >
> > > I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to SE, but isn't
> > > that rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea of upgrading
> > > that you don't have to wipe out everything, including all your
> > > installed applications and customizations, and re-install them, a
> > > huge job that could take days?
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > > Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases EVERYTHING)
> > > > and then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows
> > > > update, get all the necessary patches, and you're in business.
> > > >
> > > > "Gary" . uk>
> > > > wrote in message ...
> > > > > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd application
> > > > > which doesn't work in the original version.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and OE -
> > > > > will it
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install older
> > > > > versions
> > > > of
> > > > > these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of
> > > > > reinstalling
> > > > the
> > > > > latest versions afterwards?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Gary,
>
>

[Ron Badour]

Why do you have that opinion? If you have problems with it, post to the XP
newsgroups and seek help. I find XP to be *very* stable and I have been
able to load patches without worrying that the system would quit working.
My only gripe with XP is that it is not as easy to fix as W98 is but then it
doesn't require as much fixing either.
--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Gary" . uk> wrote in
message ...
>
> "Greg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Upgrade it and then get all Win updates there
> > should be no drastic problems. All 98 drivers
> > will work with SE, it's not likee going from
> > 98 to XP thaat scaress me to start with.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wouldn't advise using XP, is a dreadful OS IMHO.
>
>
>

[Larry]

Thanks, Doug, that sounds like good advice.

Larry


"Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
...
> Larry, in some cases, it apparently works. In some, it does not. The
best
> practice is to pretend it will NOT work and prepare accordingly. That
forces
> you to adopt bulletproof (and habitual) backup procedures for your
data
> files. It's not a question of *IF* you will need to restore data from
an
> external storage medium. It's a matter of *WHEN*. It will happen, and
if
> don't have backups, you will be very sad.
>
> So, try the upgrade. If you're happy with the results, fine. If not,
you can
> always do the reformat/fresh install routine.
>
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ok. It's possible I may have to upgrade to SE at some point, just
> > because there are applications for which you need SE. But I had
been
> > under the impression that upgrading from FE to SE was easy. It's
> > disturbing to find out that it's not, especially as, way back when,
MS
> > came out with SE only a year after they came out with Windows 98.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > Browse two weeks worth of messages in this newsgroup and see what
> > > sorts of things can happen when you upgrade. You tell me what
would
> > > be more aggravating: Spending a week tracking down niggling little
> > > problems due to the upgrade, and wondering if you've REALLY
swatted
> > > all the flies, or spending the same period of time in an orderly
> > > process which will result in your machine running better than it
did
> > > when you took it out of the box? If you prefer choice A, go for
it!
> > >
> > > "Larry" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Doug,
> > > >
> > > > I have Windows 98 and am not planning to upgrade to SE, but
isn't
> > > > that rather a drastic solution? Isn't the whole idea of
upgrading
> > > > that you don't have to wipe out everything, including all your
> > > > installed applications and customizations, and re-install them,
a
> > > > huge job that could take days?
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Doug Kanter wrote:
> > > > > Don't upgrade. Reformat the hard disk (which erases
EVERYTHING)
> > > > > and then install Win98SE to a nice, fresh home. Run Windows
> > > > > update, get all the necessary patches, and you're in business.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Gary" . uk>
> > > > > wrote in message ...
> > > > > > Am thinking of doing this, purely because of the odd
application
> > > > > > which doesn't work in the original version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, I'm thinking this will cause problems with IE and
OE -
> > > > > > will it
> > > > > mess
> > > > > > up the existing settings? Can I not choose to not install
older
> > > > > > versions
> > > > > of
> > > > > > these applications? Or is it just a straightforward case of
> > > > > > reinstalling
> > > > > the
> > > > > > latest versions afterwards?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Gary,
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug Kanter]

Same here. No problems whatsoever, other than the fact that I'm trying to
run XP on a machine with only 128mb of RAM, which is silly. But, the OS
itself has been virtually trouble-free (on a Sony laptop).

"Ron Badour" > wrote in message
...
> Why do you have that opinion? If you have problems with it, post to the
XP
> newsgroups and seek help. I find XP to be *very* stable and I have been
> able to load patches without worrying that the system would quit working.
> My only gripe with XP is that it is not as easy to fix as W98 is but then
it
> doesn't require as much fixing either.
> --
> Regards
>
> Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
> Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
> Knowledge Base Info:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
>
> "Gary" . uk> wrote in
> message ...
> >
> > "Greg" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Upgrade it and then get all Win updates there
> > > should be no drastic problems. All 98 drivers
> > > will work with SE, it's not likee going from
> > > 98 to XP thaat scaress me to start with.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Wouldn't advise using XP, is a dreadful OS IMHO.
> >
> >
> >
>
>