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Chandra Madhira
September 26th 04, 08:30 PM
Hello:
I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet cable.
Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The home
networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
connects to internet using another computer". My ADSL speeds were very and I
never had any complaints. I used to get anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo
bits per sec for downloads

In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same 2
computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet using
PPPoE settings on my router.

I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo bits
per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to look
into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem and
not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is Toshiba.
Fair enough.

Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL modem
directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL modem
is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change my
home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet directly".
Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the IP
address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back to
the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.

I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why my
ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home networking I
was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet light
used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
networking and I do not know exactly what it is.

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Chandra Madhira

N. Miller
September 27th 04, 05:05 AM
In article >, Chandra Madhira says...

> I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
> ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
> using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
> desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet cable.
> Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The home
> networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
> connects to internet using another computer".

Stop! Right here! You have a router, and you have a computer configured as
connecting to the Internet through another computer? Why? This sounds like
an ICS connection. Each computer connects to the router independently of the
other; you shouldn't need that setting.

> My ADSL speeds were very and I never had any complaints. I used to get
> anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo bits per sec for downloads

> In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same 2
> computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet using
> PPPoE settings on my router.

> I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo bits
> per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to look
> into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem and
> not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is Toshiba.
> Fair enough.

> Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL modem
> directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL modem
> is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change my
> home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet directly".
> Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the IP
> address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back to
> the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.

> I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why my
> ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
> modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home networking I
> was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet light
> used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
> networking and I do not know exactly what it is.

> Would appreciate any help.

Go back to each computer connecting through the router. Let the router
handle the PPPoE. DO NOT run the ICS connection. It is not necessary. I have
not had to run the Windows Me home networking Wizard since setting up behind
a router. The computer with the wired connection and the wireless computer
should each have a different IP address assigned by the router's DHCP
service. That should be sufficient.

Remove Internet Connection Sharing. When you are behind a router that only
confuses the issue.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Chandra Madhira
September 28th 04, 11:50 AM
Thanks. I understand your point of ICS. However my issue is not to do with
connecting to internet using a router. I am able to connect to internet
through router even w/ICS setting.

I now want to connect my computer directly to ADSL Modem WITHOUT a router.
That is when the ethernet light is off. Let me ask this. How can I UNINSTALL
home networking in ME. I want to go back to the configuration prior to
activating home networking? I know I can reintsall windows ME. Is there a
way without that. Somehow the home networking is stealing the ethernet port.

Thanks
"N. Miller" > wrote in message
om...
> In article >, Chandra Madhira
says...
>
> > I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
> > ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
> > using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
> > desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet
cable.
> > Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The
home
> > networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
> > connects to internet using another computer".
>
> Stop! Right here! You have a router, and you have a computer configured as
> connecting to the Internet through another computer? Why? This sounds like
> an ICS connection. Each computer connects to the router independently of
the
> other; you shouldn't need that setting.
>
> > My ADSL speeds were very and I never had any complaints. I used to get
> > anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo bits per sec for downloads
>
> > In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same
2
> > computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet
using
> > PPPoE settings on my router.
>
> > I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo
bits
> > per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to
look
> > into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem
and
> > not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is
Toshiba.
> > Fair enough.
>
> > Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL
modem
> > directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL
modem
> > is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change
my
> > home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet
directly".
> > Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the
IP
> > address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back
to
> > the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.
>
> > I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why
my
> > ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
> > modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home
networking I
> > was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet
light
> > used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
> > networking and I do not know exactly what it is.
>
> > Would appreciate any help.
>
> Go back to each computer connecting through the router. Let the router
> handle the PPPoE. DO NOT run the ICS connection. It is not necessary. I
have
> not had to run the Windows Me home networking Wizard since setting up
behind
> a router. The computer with the wired connection and the wireless computer
> should each have a different IP address assigned by the router's DHCP
> service. That should be sufficient.
>
> Remove Internet Connection Sharing. When you are behind a router that only
> confuses the issue.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

N. Miller
September 29th 04, 10:03 AM
In article >, Chandra Madhira says...

> Thanks. I understand your point of ICS. However my issue is not to do with
> connecting to internet using a router. I am able to connect to internet
> through router even w/ICS setting.

> I now want to connect my computer directly to ADSL Modem WITHOUT a router.
> That is when the ethernet light is off. Let me ask this. How can I UNINSTALL
> home networking in ME. I want to go back to the configuration prior to
> activating home networking? I know I can reintsall windows ME. Is there a
> way without that. Somehow the home networking is stealing the ethernet port.

I don't think you really need to do that. But removing the adapter from
Network Properties should have that effect. The green PCA icon next to the
name of your Ethernet card.

But if all you want is a direct connection between the computer and the
adapter, you just set up whatever connection manager is proper for your
flavor of ADSL. I would have to reinstall a PPPoE connection manager.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint