NAV

[betty boop]

My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as the
NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and was told
NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my computer. I use
windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else to use.
Thanks,
Betty

[Mike M]

Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on Win Me
(or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and is
100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which makes it
unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than what
went before and IMO is best avoided.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



betty boop > wrote:

> My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as the
> NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
> was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else
> to use.

[betty boop]

Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what to use in
NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I should be
using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Betty
"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on Win Me
> (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and is
> 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which makes it
> unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than what
> went before and IMO is best avoided.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
>
>
> betty boop > wrote:
>
> > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as the
> > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
> > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else
> > to use.
>

[Heather]

There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost. There
are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com

I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go to
the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good browse
thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls and
most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".

http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html

Hope this helps you learn.

Cheers.....Heather

"betty boop" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what to use
in
> NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I should
be
> using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Betty
> "Mike M" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on Win
Me
> > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and is
> > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which makes
it
> > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than
what
> > went before and IMO is best avoided.
> > --
> > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> >
> >
> >
> > betty boop > wrote:
> >
> > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as the
> > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
> > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else
> > > to use.
> >
>
>

[betty boop]

Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay for
something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because it
came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with my
windows ME? I will read your recommended website.

Thanks again,
Betty
"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost. There
> are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
>
> I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go to
> the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good browse
> thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls and
> most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
>
> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
>
> Hope this helps you learn.
>
> Cheers.....Heather
>
> "betty boop" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what to
use
> in
> > NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I
should
> be
> > using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Betty
> > "Mike M" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on Win
> Me
> > > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and is
> > > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which makes
> it
> > > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than
> what
> > > went before and IMO is best avoided.
> > > --
> > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > betty boop > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as
the
> > > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
> > > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> > > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else
> > > > to use.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Heather]

http://www.my-etrust.com/ is the website for EZ Trust. I was checking the
Microsoft website and it is still offered free in combination with a
firewall. However.....the firewall is probably still version 3.xxx of Zone
Alarm and it doesn't agree with WindowsME for most of us.

EZ Trust is completely compatible with WinME.....I have used it for many
years. I prefer something that doesn't have a ton of bells and whistles and
in fact, have turned off the *scanning while downloading* aspect. But you
may wish to keep it. Until you learn more about the malware stuff.

Cheers....Heather

"betty boop" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay for
> something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because it
> came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with my
> windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
>
> Thanks again,
> Betty
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
There
> > are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
> >
> > I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go
to
> > the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
browse
> > thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls and
> > most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
> >
> > http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
> >
> > Hope this helps you learn.
> >
> > Cheers.....Heather
> >
> > "betty boop" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what to
> use
> > in
> > > NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I
> should
> > be
> > > using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Betty
> > > "Mike M" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on
Win
> > Me
> > > > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and
is
> > > > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which
makes
> > it
> > > > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than
> > what
> > > > went before and IMO is best avoided.
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > betty boop > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as
> the
> > > > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
> > > > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> > > > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what
else
> > > > > to use.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[betty boop]

Thanks Heather. It's times like this I wish I really knew what I was doing.
A few times I have used trendmicro to run a one time scan. How do you know
what program is best to use. I don't want anything too complicated but I
know I should purchase something. I have several of the Dummies books but
they don't tell you much about this. I appreciate your help.
Betty


"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.my-etrust.com/ is the website for EZ Trust. I was checking the
> Microsoft website and it is still offered free in combination with a
> firewall. However.....the firewall is probably still version 3.xxx of
Zone
> Alarm and it doesn't agree with WindowsME for most of us.
>
> EZ Trust is completely compatible with WinME.....I have used it for many
> years. I prefer something that doesn't have a ton of bells and whistles
and
> in fact, have turned off the *scanning while downloading* aspect. But you
> may wish to keep it. Until you learn more about the malware stuff.
>
> Cheers....Heather
>
> "betty boop" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay for
> > something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because it
> > came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with my
> > windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Betty
> > "Heather" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
> There
> > > are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
> > >
> > > I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go
> to
> > > the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
> browse
> > > thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls
and
> > > most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
> > >
> > > http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
> > >
> > > Hope this helps you learn.
> > >
> > > Cheers.....Heather
> > >
> > > "betty boop" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what
to
> > use
> > > in
> > > > NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I
> > should
> > > be
> > > > using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
> > > > appreciated.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Betty
> > > > "Mike M" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on
> Win
> > > Me
> > > > > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such
and
> is
> > > > > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which
> makes
> > > it
> > > > > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse
than
> > > what
> > > > > went before and IMO is best avoided.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > betty boop > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it
as
> > the
> > > > > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer
and
> > > > > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
> > > > > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what
> else
> > > > > > to use.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Heather]

Hi Betty.....

Just keep reading these news groups......that is how I learned. Norton is
not all that good with WindowsME......and it is what is called
'bloatware'.....and their techie help is non-existent.....for starters,
grin.

Read the comparisons on the antivirus website.....but you can use AVG as it
is not complicated. I put it on my neighbour's computer after his Norton
ran out. Just don't click on attachments if you are not sure of them. And
NEVER click on an attachment that says it is from Microsoft.....they don't
send out patches that way.

Do you go to Windows Update and see if there are any ones you need? Click
on Tools/Windows Update in Internet Explorer and follow the directions.

Best.....Heather
"betty boop" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Heather. It's times like this I wish I really knew what I was
doing.
> A few times I have used trendmicro to run a one time scan. How do you
know
> what program is best to use. I don't want anything too complicated but I
> know I should purchase something. I have several of the Dummies books but
> they don't tell you much about this. I appreciate your help.
> Betty
>
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.my-etrust.com/ is the website for EZ Trust. I was checking
the
> > Microsoft website and it is still offered free in combination with a
> > firewall. However.....the firewall is probably still version 3.xxx of
> Zone
> > Alarm and it doesn't agree with WindowsME for most of us.
> >
> > EZ Trust is completely compatible with WinME.....I have used it for many
> > years. I prefer something that doesn't have a ton of bells and whistles
> and
> > in fact, have turned off the *scanning while downloading* aspect. But
you
> > may wish to keep it. Until you learn more about the malware stuff.
> >
> > Cheers....Heather
> >
> > "betty boop" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay
for
> > > something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because
it
> > > came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with
my
> > > windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Betty
> > > "Heather" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
> > There
> > > > are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
> > > >
> > > > I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But
go
> > to
> > > > the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
> > browse
> > > > thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls
> and
> > > > most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
> > > >
> > > > http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps you learn.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.....Heather
> > > >
> > > > "betty boop" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what
> to
> > > use
> > > > in
> > > > > NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I
> > > should
> > > > be
> > > > > using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
> > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Betty
> > > > > "Mike M" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem
on
> > Win
> > > > Me
> > > > > > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such
> and
> > is
> > > > > > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which
> > makes
> > > > it
> > > > > > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse
> than
> > > > what
> > > > > > went before and IMO is best avoided.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > betty boop > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer
> and
> > > > > > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on
my
> > > > > > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what
> > else
> > > > > > > to use.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Noel Paton]

Just as an FWIW, you can try-before-you-buy with AVG - the free version is
good, but comes with no tech support (v6) the Paid-for version is v7, and
comes with Tech Support (about which I've heard nothing either good or bad -
which is probably a comment more on how few problems the program causes than
on the quality of the tech support)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"betty boop" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay for
> something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because it
> came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with my
> windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
>
> Thanks again,
> Betty
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
>> There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
>> There
>> are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
>>
>> I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go to
>> the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
>> browse
>> thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls and
>> most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
>>
>> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
>>
>> Hope this helps you learn.
>>
>> Cheers.....Heather
>>
>> "betty boop" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Thanks for your reply. I am still learning so I do not know what to
> use
>> in
>> > NAV2001's place. It expires the beginning of September and know I
> should
>> be
>> > using something in its place. Your suggestions would be greatly
>> > appreciated.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Betty
>> > "Mike M" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Few if any domestic grade Symantec products run without problem on
>> > > Win
>> Me
>> > > (or come to that any recent operating system). NAV is one such and
>> > > is
>> > > 100% incompatible with Win Me's system restore - something which
>> > > makes
>> it
>> > > unique amongst AV applications. NAV2004 is without doubt worse than
>> what
>> > > went before and IMO is best avoided.
>> > > --
>> > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > betty boop > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > My NAV2001 subscription is about to expire. I cannot renew it as
> the
>> > > > NAV2001 was discontinued. I had some work done on my computer and
>> > > > was told NAV2001 isn't good but that I cannot use NAV2004 on my
>> > > > computer. I use windows ME. Is this true? I don't know what else
>> > > > to use.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[Heather]

Yes....I was thinking she should do that. I also wondered if she has a
firewall and AdAware on her computer. And last, but not least......she
should totally uninstall Norton. (your favourite program, grin).

Heather

"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Just as an FWIW, you can try-before-you-buy with AVG - the free version is
> good, but comes with no tech support (v6) the Paid-for version is v7, and
> comes with Tech Support (about which I've heard nothing either good or
bad -
> which is probably a comment more on how few problems the program causes
than
> on the quality of the tech support)
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "betty boop" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay for
> > something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because it
> > came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with my
> > windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Betty
> > "Heather" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
> >> There
> >> are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
> >>
> >> I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But go
to
> >> the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
> >> browse
> >> thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls
and
> >> most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
> >>
> >> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
> >>
> >> Hope this helps you learn.
> >>
> >> Cheers.....Heather

[betty boop]

"Heather" > wrote in message
...
> Yes....I was thinking she should do that. I also wondered if she has a
> firewall and AdAware on her computer. And last, but not least......she
> should totally uninstall Norton. (your favourite program, grin).
>
> Heather
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just as an FWIW, you can try-before-you-buy with AVG - the free version
is
> > good, but comes with no tech support (v6) the Paid-for version is v7,
and
> > comes with Tech Support (about which I've heard nothing either good or
> bad -
> > which is probably a comment more on how few problems the program causes
> than
> > on the quality of the tech support)
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> >
> > "betty boop" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay
for
> > > something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because
it
> > > came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with
my
> > > windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Betty
> > > "Heather" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
> > >> There
> > >> are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
> > >>
> > >> I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But
go
> to
> > >> the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
> > >> browse
> > >> thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls
> and
> > >> most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
> > >>
> > >> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps you learn.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers.....Heather
>
>
Thanks Heather and Noel. I will try it first and then if it works okay buy
the v7. I was also told trendmicro has a good antivirus program also. I do
have zone alarm installed on my computer and also use ADaware. I installed
both of them myself after reading it in a newsgroup. I do the windows
updates and I know about opening attachments and open nothing from
Microsoft. One last question - the v7, do I download that or do they send
me a physical program?
Thanks again and I will keep reading the groups.
Betty

[Noel Paton]

If you elect to buy it, then it will come from your local agent (AFAIK) -
but will still probably be a download for offline install (so save it to
CD!).. I've never gone that far myself, despite having used AVG for the past
couple of years for my AV (reminder to self - pay for it soon!)

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"betty boop" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yes....I was thinking she should do that. I also wondered if she has a
>> firewall and AdAware on her computer. And last, but not least......she
>> should totally uninstall Norton. (your favourite program, grin).
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Just as an FWIW, you can try-before-you-buy with AVG - the free version
> is
>> > good, but comes with no tech support (v6) the Paid-for version is v7,
> and
>> > comes with Tech Support (about which I've heard nothing either good or
>> bad -
>> > which is probably a comment more on how few problems the program causes
>> than
>> > on the quality of the tech support)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>> >
>> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >
>> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
>> >
>> > "betty boop" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Thanks Heather. Is there a website for EZTrust? I intended to pay
> for
>> > > something as I paid yearly to renew my NAV 2001. It was easy because
> it
>> > > came with my computer. Is the one you use, EZ Trust, compatable with
> my
>> > > windows ME? I will read your recommended website.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again,
>> > > Betty
>> > > "Heather" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >> There are many antivirus programs available......most of them cost.
>> > >> There
>> > >> are a couple of free ones and I can recommend AVG at www.grisoft.com
>> > >>
>> > >> I happen to use EZ Trust.....and I believe it is about $30 US. But
> go
>> to
>> > >> the following website from our antivirus news group and have a good
>> > >> browse
>> > >> thru it.....it will teach you a lot about antivirus progs, firewalls
>> and
>> > >> most importantly.....safe hex. Aka "how to avoid viruses".
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html
>> > >>
>> > >> Hope this helps you learn.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers.....Heather
>>
>>
> Thanks Heather and Noel. I will try it first and then if it works okay
> buy
> the v7. I was also told trendmicro has a good antivirus program also. I
> do
> have zone alarm installed on my computer and also use ADaware. I
> installed
> both of them myself after reading it in a newsgroup. I do the windows
> updates and I know about opening attachments and open nothing from
> Microsoft. One last question - the v7, do I download that or do they send
> me a physical program?
> Thanks again and I will keep reading the groups.
> Betty
>
>