Network Places not showing workgroup

[N.E. Mouse]

I have a simple network in my house. An IBM Thinkpad and
a desktop that are connected through a wireless network
(type b). Both machines are running Windows ME.

When I look at "My Network Places" on the Thinkpad it
doesn't show the Workgroup or either of the PCs. On the
Desktop unit, everything works as designed.

I can find the workgroup and both machines if I do a
search in "My Network Places". I can access files and
send messages via WinPopUp.

The Thinkpad was recently upgraded to Win Me from Win 98
SE.

Any ideas?

[Carey Holzman]

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PC's.

Carey

"N.E. Mouse" > wrote in message
...
> I have a simple network in my house. An IBM Thinkpad and
> a desktop that are connected through a wireless network
> (type b). Both machines are running Windows ME.
>
> When I look at "My Network Places" on the Thinkpad it
> doesn't show the Workgroup or either of the PCs. On the
> Desktop unit, everything works as designed.
>
> I can find the workgroup and both machines if I do a
> search in "My Network Places". I can access files and
> send messages via WinPopUp.
>
> The Thinkpad was recently upgraded to Win Me from Win 98
> SE.
>
> Any ideas?

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >, "N.E. Mouse"
> wrote:
>I have a simple network in my house. An IBM Thinkpad and
>a desktop that are connected through a wireless network
>(type b). Both machines are running Windows ME.
>
>When I look at "My Network Places" on the Thinkpad it
>doesn't show the Workgroup or either of the PCs. On the
>Desktop unit, everything works as designed.
>
>I can find the workgroup and both machines if I do a
>search in "My Network Places". I can access files and
>send messages via WinPopUp.
>
>The Thinkpad was recently upgraded to Win Me from Win 98
>SE.
>
>Any ideas?

Since you can find the workgroup and machines by searching, the
network clients, protocols, services, etc, are working fine.

Windows Me has a "network crawling" function that finds shared disks
and folders and displays them in My Network Places. Computer names
don't appear in My Network Places.

There's a registry key that can prevent network crawling. If
"NoNetCrawling" is present, make sure that it's set to 0, not to 1.
This web page has details:

http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/960/

It might help to enable Browse Master on the desktop and disable
Browse Master on the laptop.

You can manually create a shortcut to a shared disk or folder in My
Network Places: click "Add Network Place" and follow the prompts.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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> Computer names don't appear in My Network Places.

Don't want to quibble but if I open "entire network" on my
desktop PC, all the computers are show.

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >,
> wrote:
>> Computer names don't appear in My Network Places.
>
>Don't want to quibble but if I open "entire network" on my
>desktop PC, all the computers are show.

You're right. I meant that computer names don't appear immediately
when you open My Network Places. Only shared disks and folders do.

You have to go through the extra steps of clicking Entire Network and
the workgroup name to see computer names.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

[N.E. Mouse]

>-----Original Message-----
>> Computer names don't appear in My Network Places.
>
>Don't want to quibble but if I open "entire network" on
my
>desktop PC, all the computers are show.

Okay, it's not "entire network." First you open "Entire
Network" then you open the workgroup and finally you see
all the computers.

[N.E. Mouse]

>-----Original Message-----
>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
>Tip #1 on all PC's.
>
>Carey
>
>"N.E. Mouse" > wrote in message
...
>> I have a simple network in my house. An IBM Thinkpad
and
>> a desktop that are connected through a wireless network
>> (type b). Both machines are running Windows ME.
>>
>> When I look at "My Network Places" on the Thinkpad it
>> doesn't show the Workgroup or either of the PCs. On the
>> Desktop unit, everything works as designed.
>>
>> I can find the workgroup and both machines if I do a
>> search in "My Network Places". I can access files and
>> send messages via WinPopUp.
>>
>> The Thinkpad was recently upgraded to Win Me from Win 98
>> SE.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>
>.
>

[N.E. Mouse]

>-----Original Message-----
>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
>Tip #1 on all PC's.

Tried that as well as all of the other tips. "Entire
Network" showed the workgroup and then after the next
reboot, didn't show it again.

This is frustrating. It isn't greatly vital but I want
to use a pop up messenger program that is supposed to show
the attached workstations so you can select which one to
send the message to. The messenger program shows the
computers on desktop PC but not the notebook.

Thanks for trying.

[N.E. Mouse]

Okay, this is really strange.

Now everything is working fine. The only oddity is that
it takes a couple minutes for the workgroup to appear
in "Entire Network" on the ThinkPad. On the desktop
computer it shows up immediately.

I've been working in the computer field since long before
they coined the term "information technology," back then
many called it "data processing" or, in my case, it
was "engineering systems" (designed software for nuclear
reactors). As time goes by I being to hate computers more
and more and I hate Microsquash even more than I hate
computers.

[N.E. Mouse]

Not too long ago, I reported that everything seemed to be
working fine. Well, we're back to the vanishing workgroup.

I removed all of the network stuff and re-installed it.
I'm using a different network adapter.

This is driving me to distraction.

[N. Miller]

In article >, N.E. Mouse says...

> Not too long ago, I reported that everything seemed to be
> working fine. Well, we're back to the vanishing workgroup.

> I removed all of the network stuff and re-installed it.
> I'm using a different network adapter.

> This is driving me to distraction.

It can do that. Today I was futzing around with cascaded routers, and trying
different things to see what would give me access to a certain device. So
far, all I have done is learned that I know nothing about routing across
different subnets.

Anyway, to address what you are experiencing, are you using multiple
protocols? Some people run both, or all three common protocols in an effort
to "unbind" shares from the Internet adapter. Also, peer-to-peer networks
need a "minimalist" approach to the configuration menus. I've seen improper
settings for WINS Resolution stop a network cold. Disable it on all
adapters.

Actually, if you could just describe your network profile a bit, that might
help. Mine is a little more complex than most (and cascading routers only
increases complexity), but I manage to keep it humming along.

What network components are installed? Adapters? Protocols? Clients?
Services? What protocols are bound to which adapters? And are you running
any firewall programs? You need to configure those carefully, too, or they
can stop a network.

--
Norman
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