Re: Windows me slow bootup

[Mart]

Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow boot-ups. (NB it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event (or events) taking
'hundreds' of seconds, instead of fractions or several seconds. (5 mins =
300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you might need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be fair, the BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-depth technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart



"Jeff" > wrote in message
m...
> Hi,
> My computer is an HP 6736. It has 667MHz Celeron CPU, 384MB, 20GByte
> Hd. OS is Windows Me. After it boots up, everything seems OK. The
> problem is the machine is very low when it boots up. It is about 5
> minutes to finish boot up. The machine is slow especially when the
> Windows screen displays (White background, four color Windows flag in
> the background). No other problem seems exist, such as virus.
> Could you help me?
>
>
> Thanks.

[Noel Paton]

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"Jeff" > wrote in message
m...
> Hi,
> My computer is an HP 6736. It has 667MHz Celeron CPU, 384MB, 20GByte
> Hd. OS is Windows Me. After it boots up, everything seems OK. The
> problem is the machine is very low when it boots up. It is about 5
> minutes to finish boot up. The machine is slow especially when the
> Windows screen displays (White background, four color Windows flag in
> the background). No other problem seems exist, such as virus.
> Could you help me?
>
>
> Thanks.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

According to your suggestion, I test my computer with "Boot Log
Analyzer".
There is an error:SYSCRITINITFAILED = VIAGART.

I have searched on the groups about that message, but could not find a
explicit solution. Could you tell me something about the problem?


Thanks.




"Mart" > wrote in message >...
> Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
> It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow boot-ups. (NB it also
> works on WinME)
>
> Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event (or events) taking
> 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of fractions or several seconds. (5 mins =
> 300 seconds)
>
> Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt File"
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;127970
>
> If you not sure how to decipher the results, you might need to seek the
> assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be fair, the BLA page does state
> that " ... interpreting the results requires in-depth technical knowledge."
>
> HTH
>
> Mart
>
>

[Mart]

VIAGART appears to be part of your video driver files. Try a Google for
VIAGART.

My 'standard' response to video driver issues is as follows:-

"Sounds like your Display Adapter driver is no longer being properly
recognised, is incorrectly set-up, or is corrupted.

Boot into Safe Mode and in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/all Display Adapters
and Monitors and then re-boot.
WinMe *should* re-detect (Plug&Play) your video card and monitor and then
should install the 'correct' drivers.

If it still doesn't help, you'll need to install the latest WinMe driver for
your Video Card (Adapter) which you should be available to download from the
card manufacturers web site."

HTH and good luck

Mart



"Jeff" > wrote in message
om...
> Thank you.
>
> According to your suggestion, I test my computer with "Boot Log
> Analyzer".
> There is an error:SYSCRITINITFAILED = VIAGART.
>
> I have searched on the groups about that message, but could not find a
> explicit solution. Could you tell me something about the problem?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
>...
> > Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
> > It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow boot-ups. (NB it
also
> > works on WinME)
> >
> > Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event (or events) taking
> > 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of fractions or several seconds. (5 mins
=
> > 300 seconds)
> >
> > Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt File"
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;127970
> >
> > If you not sure how to decipher the results, you might need to seek the
> > assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be fair, the BLA page does
state
> > that " ... interpreting the results requires in-depth technical
knowledge."
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >

[Jeff]

Thank you. I have tried as what you said. In safe mode, I deleted the
graphics card driver and display driver, rebooted to the normal mode
(right?). The display CRT is an ViewSonic A75f. The computer detected
and install the new drivers for them automatically. The display driver
is a specific "A75f", from ViewSonic. It is detected by Windows Me
automatically. After I reboot several times, I setup the computer to
go into BOOTLOG mode. The result is the same as before, i.e.
SYSCRITINITFAILED=VIAGART.

The graphics card is integrated to the mothercard. The display memory
is shared with the main memory, not as the normal display card which
has its own high speed RAM. Different display resolution will use
different amount of the main memory. The original memory coming with
the computer is 64MB, now it has another 256MB memory card installed.
It should not memory hungry anymore. The CDs accompanying with the
computer are for restoring the whole software, I cannot install
separate drivers. In fact, before the above trying, I have reinstalled
the system with the CDs with no progress.

From c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\, I can see "viagart.vxd", its date is
2000-05-06. I think it is from the restore CD. Can I upgrade it to
newer version? Just to replace it? Where can I get one new file?


Could you give me other suggestions? Thanks.



"Mart" > wrote in message >...
> VIAGART appears to be part of your video driver files. Try a Google for
> VIAGART.
>
> My 'standard' response to video driver issues is as follows:-
>
> "Sounds like your Display Adapter driver is no longer being properly
> recognised, is incorrectly set-up, or is corrupted.
>
> Boot into Safe Mode and in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/all Display Adapters
> and Monitors and then re-boot.
> WinMe *should* re-detect (Plug&Play) your video card and monitor and then
> should install the 'correct' drivers.
>
> If it still doesn't help, you'll need to install the latest WinMe driver for
> your Video Card (Adapter) which you should be available to download from the
> card manufacturers web site."
>
> HTH and good luck

[Mart]

> Could you give me other suggestions?

Well, I don't know if this will help but I looked for SYSCRITINIT on the MS
KB and it came up with:-

"Description of the Windows 95 Startup Process"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;174018
See step5, item 8a

which makes me wonder whether the on-board graphic card is "failing" for
some reason. You imply that you've added 256M to the existing 64M of RAM,
has the error report only started since you added the memory - perhaps a
mis-match?
Try pulling the 64M chip and running without it - or using the 64M chip only
if necessary, to try to isolate/eliminate it as the cause.

Another option would be to try a PCI graphics card (but remember to disable
the on-board in your BIOS!!)

Regarding "viagart.vxd", this is not included on an MS WinMe CD so I guess
it's specific to VIA's own graphics drivers. You *should* be able to find a
set of drivers on one of the VIA websites (search with Goole etc.as before)
but you'll probably need to know exact details of the motherboard and or
computer make/model.

Ah! - just re-read your 1st post - try the HP website for drivers <g> - but
still going with the suggestion of pulling one of the RAM chips to see if
that improves things.

Mart


"Jeff" > wrote in message
m...
> Thank you. I have tried as what you said. In safe mode, I deleted the
> graphics card driver and display driver, rebooted to the normal mode
> (right?). The display CRT is an ViewSonic A75f. The computer detected
> and install the new drivers for them automatically. The display driver
> is a specific "A75f", from ViewSonic. It is detected by Windows Me
> automatically. After I reboot several times, I setup the computer to
> go into BOOTLOG mode. The result is the same as before, i.e.
> SYSCRITINITFAILED=VIAGART.
>
> The graphics card is integrated to the mothercard. The display memory
> is shared with the main memory, not as the normal display card which
> has its own high speed RAM. Different display resolution will use
> different amount of the main memory. The original memory coming with
> the computer is 64MB, now it has another 256MB memory card installed.
> It should not memory hungry anymore. The CDs accompanying with the
> computer are for restoring the whole software, I cannot install
> separate drivers. In fact, before the above trying, I have reinstalled
> the system with the CDs with no progress.
>
> From c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\, I can see "viagart.vxd", its date is
> 2000-05-06. I think it is from the restore CD. Can I upgrade it to
> newer version? Just to replace it? Where can I get one new file?
>
>
> Could you give me other suggestions? Thanks.
>
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
>...
> > VIAGART appears to be part of your video driver files. Try a Google for
> > VIAGART.
> >
> > My 'standard' response to video driver issues is as follows:-
> >
> > "Sounds like your Display Adapter driver is no longer being properly
> > recognised, is incorrectly set-up, or is corrupted.
> >
> > Boot into Safe Mode and in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/all Display
Adapters
> > and Monitors and then re-boot.
> > WinMe *should* re-detect (Plug&Play) your video card and monitor and
then
> > should install the 'correct' drivers.
> >
> > If it still doesn't help, you'll need to install the latest WinMe driver
for
> > your Video Card (Adapter) which you should be available to download from
the
> > card manufacturers web site."
> >
> > HTH and good luck

[Jeff]

Thank you.
I have done the following, but without solving the problem.
.. I have tried the original 64M RAM, new 256M RAM separately;
.. Upgrade BIOS from HP website;
.. In BIOS, change video card mode:PCI and AGP.

I have found one website which has VIAGART.VXD file. But it is older
than mine(year: 2000). Although some posts talks about viagart.vxd, it
seems no solution to the problem. Could you tell me more?


Regards,


"Mart" > wrote in message >...
> > Could you give me other suggestions?
>
> Well, I don't know if this will help but I looked for SYSCRITINIT on the MS
> KB and it came up with:-
>
> "Description of the Windows 95 Startup Process"
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;174018
> See step5, item 8a
>
> which makes me wonder whether the on-board graphic card is "failing" for
> some reason. You imply that you've added 256M to the existing 64M of RAM,
> has the error report only started since you added the memory - perhaps a
> mis-match?
> Try pulling the 64M chip and running without it - or using the 64M chip only
> if necessary, to try to isolate/eliminate it as the cause.
>
> Another option would be to try a PCI graphics card (but remember to disable
> the on-board in your BIOS!!)
>
> Regarding "viagart.vxd", this is not included on an MS WinMe CD so I guess
> it's specific to VIA's own graphics drivers. You *should* be able to find a
> set of drivers on one of the VIA websites (search with Goole etc.as before)
> but you'll probably need to know exact details of the motherboard and or
> computer make/model.
>
> Ah! - just re-read your 1st post - try the HP website for drivers <g> - but
> still going with the suggestion of pulling one of the RAM chips to see if
> that improves things.
>
> Mart
>

[Mart]

Sorry, I can't tell you any more about your video card/adapter as I don't
have any more information than you have (and we *may* have gone off at a
tangent) - I'm out of further ideas regarding the video device and begin to
wonder whether that is in fact causing you slow booting issues.

However, I come back to an aspect of your initial problem, which you didn't
comment on - if you are still having slow bootup problems, are there any
'excessive' timings shown by the BLA?

Mart



"Jeff" > wrote in message
om...
> Thank you.
> I have done the following, but without solving the problem.
> . I have tried the original 64M RAM, new 256M RAM separately;
> . Upgrade BIOS from HP website;
> . In BIOS, change video card mode:PCI and AGP.
>
> I have found one website which has VIAGART.VXD file. But it is older
> than mine(year: 2000). Although some posts talks about viagart.vxd, it
> seems no solution to the problem. Could you tell me more?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
>...
> > > Could you give me other suggestions?
> >
> > Well, I don't know if this will help but I looked for SYSCRITINIT on the
MS
> > KB and it came up with:-
> >
> > "Description of the Windows 95 Startup Process"
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;174018
> > See step5, item 8a
> >
> > which makes me wonder whether the on-board graphic card is "failing" for
> > some reason. You imply that you've added 256M to the existing 64M of
RAM,
> > has the error report only started since you added the memory - perhaps a
> > mis-match?
> > Try pulling the 64M chip and running without it - or using the 64M chip
only
> > if necessary, to try to isolate/eliminate it as the cause.
> >
> > Another option would be to try a PCI graphics card (but remember to
disable
> > the on-board in your BIOS!!)
> >
> > Regarding "viagart.vxd", this is not included on an MS WinMe CD so I
guess
> > it's specific to VIA's own graphics drivers. You *should* be able to
find a
> > set of drivers on one of the VIA websites (search with Goole etc.as
before)
> > but you'll probably need to know exact details of the motherboard and or
> > computer make/model.
> >
> > Ah! - just re-read your 1st post - try the HP website for drivers <g> -
but
> > still going with the suggestion of pulling one of the RAM chips to see
if
> > that improves things.
> >
> > Mart
> >

[Jeff]

I am very sorry because I feel I did not make my situation very clear.
In fact, after I deleted some drivers and restored them. The computer
does not boot slow even though I checked or did not check box of
viagart.vxd. But the boot log warning is still there.

From my previous experences, the boot of computer changed slowly but
it did not stop changing. It was gradually slower and slower. So, I
guess that it is because of the boot log warning.

Now, there is another strange thing happens. At first, there are 1GB
free space in the C disk. When I used IE6.0 browse one website (It is
one of my favorite news website), I noticed a warning next to the
right bottom corner clock. It said I have no harddisk free space. Even
later I freed another 0.5 GB space, that warning still happened. I can
hear the sound of hard disk writing when I go to that website. And,
even I close that IE window of that website, everytime I check free
space of C drive, the free space still decreases(for example, 550MB,
350MB....162MB. This time the last number is 162MB). But everytime I
boot up my computer, the hard disk space will resume to its original
1.5 GB.


The free space decresed until several tens KB if I browse that
website. I have been browsing that web site for more that several
years. What causes this strange thing? BTW, I have checked the virtual
memory is managed by Windows Me. I have no virus experence in my
computer before, is it? Too strange!


Thank you very much.





"Mart" > wrote in message >...
> Sorry, I can't tell you any more about your video card/adapter as I don't
> have any more information than you have (and we *may* have gone off at a
> tangent) - I'm out of further ideas regarding the video device and begin to
> wonder whether that is in fact causing you slow booting issues.
>
> However, I come back to an aspect of your initial problem, which you didn't
> comment on - if you are still having slow bootup problems, are there any
> 'excessive' timings shown by the BLA?
>
> Mart
>
>
>

[Jeff]

I forget to say that I can browse that web site in the university
without any problem. Not just that website(Other website is similar,
although not that severe), a strange phenominon is that some ad flash
is coincident with the hard disk writing and free space decreases.



Thanks.

[Mart]

OK, my *guess* is that the "SYSCRITINITFAILED=VIAGART" issue in the BLA
report is a 'red-herring', no longer relevant and can be ignored as it is
not taking valuable minutes during bootup. And, as I understand you, bootup
timing is no longer the problem.

The 'real' issue is this business of when you connect to the web and
something starts 'eating' your disk space.

I will refer you to Noel's 'standard' response for you to check out:-

===========================
You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip
http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/CWShredder.exe
http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip

download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to
remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from your system.
-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
===================================

It is essential that you eliminate viruses/spyware/parasites/malware etc.,
issues before you start going down blind alleys <g>

Good luck

Mart



"Jeff" > wrote in message
om...
> I am very sorry because I feel I did not make my situation very clear.
> In fact, after I deleted some drivers and restored them. The computer
> does not boot slow even though I checked or did not check box of
> viagart.vxd. But the boot log warning is still there.
>
> From my previous experences, the boot of computer changed slowly but
> it did not stop changing. It was gradually slower and slower. So, I
> guess that it is because of the boot log warning.
>
> Now, there is another strange thing happens. At first, there are 1GB
> free space in the C disk. When I used IE6.0 browse one website (It is
> one of my favorite news website), I noticed a warning next to the
> right bottom corner clock. It said I have no harddisk free space. Even
> later I freed another 0.5 GB space, that warning still happened. I can
> hear the sound of hard disk writing when I go to that website. And,
> even I close that IE window of that website, everytime I check free
> space of C drive, the free space still decreases(for example, 550MB,
> 350MB....162MB. This time the last number is 162MB). But everytime I
> boot up my computer, the hard disk space will resume to its original
> 1.5 GB.
>
>
> The free space decresed until several tens KB if I browse that
> website. I have been browsing that web site for more that several
> years. What causes this strange thing? BTW, I have checked the virtual
> memory is managed by Windows Me. I have no virus experence in my
> computer before, is it? Too strange!
>
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
>...
> > Sorry, I can't tell you any more about your video card/adapter as I
don't
> > have any more information than you have (and we *may* have gone off at a
> > tangent) - I'm out of further ideas regarding the video device and begin
to
> > wonder wh etherthatisinfactcausingyouslowbootingissues.
> >
> > However, I come back to an aspect of your initial problem, which you
didn't
> > comment on - if you are still having slow bootup problems, are there any
> > 'excessive' timings shown by the BLA?
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> >