Re: Blocking Installs

[sf]

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:23:19 -0700, "jtvich"
> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to block people from installing
> software on win98 machine like a limited account in XP?
> Thanks.

I'd like to know how to delete a limited account in XP. I
set one up accidentally (didn't know the limits of
"limited") and couldn't figure out how to delete it. What's
strange is that I could delete the administrator (or
whatever the XP name is for unlimited) accounts, but not
that type.


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[Gary S. Terhune]

You really should be asking this in the XP newsgroup, <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:23:19 -0700, "jtvich"
> > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to block people from installing
> > software on win98 machine like a limited account in XP?
> > Thanks.
>
> I'd like to know how to delete a limited account in XP. I
> set one up accidentally (didn't know the limits of
> "limited") and couldn't figure out how to delete it. What's
> strange is that I could delete the administrator (or
> whatever the XP name is for unlimited) accounts, but not
> that type.
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 01:33:25 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> You really should be asking this in the XP newsgroup, <s>.

He appeared to know his "xp", so that's why I asked.

<s>

We can take it offline if he decides to tell me how.




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[Gary S. Terhune]

No biggy, and no need to take it offline. It's just that I assumed you would
like an answer ASAP, and I don't see, at least from his post, that he has
any more knowledge about XP than you do. You already know how to *create* a
Limited Account, and that's all you know for sure that he knows for sure,
<g>.

In any case, I suspect the answer to your original question is that you have
to log in as Administrator (not just a user with administrator privileges)
to delete Limited Accounts. XP is strange that way, sometimes. You also have
to remember that you can't delete an account from within that account. But
you already knew that, right?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 01:33:25 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> > wrote:
>
> > You really should be asking this in the XP newsgroup, <s>.
>
> He appeared to know his "xp", so that's why I asked.
>
> <s>
>
> We can take it offline if he decides to tell me how.
>
>
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 15:14:37 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> No biggy, and no need to take it offline. It's just that I assumed you would
> like an answer ASAP, and I don't see, at least from his post, that he has
> any more knowledge about XP than you do. You already know how to *create* a
> Limited Account, and that's all you know for sure that he knows for sure,
> <g>.
>
> In any case, I suspect the answer to your original question is that you have
> to log in as Administrator (not just a user with administrator privileges)
> to delete Limited Accounts. XP is strange that way, sometimes. You also have
> to remember that you can't delete an account from within that account. But
> you already knew that, right?

No, I didn't! I don't remember how I was logged in. I
think I tried deleting it using other accounts.

Oh, well... I'm home now. I'll tackle the problem later
this summer when I visit again.

In the mean time, the only person who cares.... is ME.

<G>


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Gary S. Terhune]

OK! Now you have time to study up and become an XPert! Be ready to wow them
at your next visit, <bg>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 15:14:37 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> > wrote:
>
> Oh, well... I'm home now. I'll tackle the problem later
> this summer when I visit again.
>
> In the mean time, the only person who cares.... is ME.
>
> <G>
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 07:10:10 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> OK! Now you have time to study up and become an XPert! Be ready to wow them
> at your next visit, <bg>.

<S>

Honestly and seriously, I believe it's an environmental
issue. I don't use that type of interface at home or at
work, so I'm completely ignorant!

I think if I manipulated it in one OS, I would be able to
extrapolate to others.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Gary S. Terhune]

If you're speaking of XP "user-friendly" interface (and I'm not sure that
you are) I'm forever having to re-familiarize myself with the XP "friendly"
interface at clients' machines, unless I can convince them that the Classic
interface is in their best interest. I think I spent a total of half an hour
messing with it on XP beta before I switched to Classic, and ever since,
that's the first thing I change in a new installation.

However, if you're speaking of the differences between 9x and NT/2K/XP,
there are significant and non-transferable differences in the way NT systems
are structured. Yes, some things are the same across the board, but many
important things, especially in the way user files and settings are stored,
are quite different.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 07:10:10 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> > wrote:
>
> > OK! Now you have time to study up and become an XPert! Be ready to wow
them
> > at your next visit, <bg>.
>
> <S>
>
> Honestly and seriously, I believe it's an environmental
> issue. I don't use that type of interface at home or at
> work, so I'm completely ignorant!
>
> I think if I manipulated it in one OS, I would be able to
> extrapolate to others.
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 00:45:42 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> If you're speaking of XP "user-friendly" interface (and I'm not sure that
> you are) I'm forever having to re-familiarize myself with the XP "friendly"
> interface at clients' machines, unless I can convince them that the Classic
> interface is in their best interest. I think I spent a total of half an hour
> messing with it on XP beta before I switched to Classic, and ever since,
> that's the first thing I change in a new installation.

I do that too!
>
> However, if you're speaking of the differences between 9x and NT/2K/XP,
> there are significant and non-transferable differences in the way NT systems
> are structured. Yes, some things are the same across the board, but many
> important things, especially in the way user files and settings are stored,
> are quite different.

We digressed a bit too far - I just wanted to know how do
delete a "limited" account. I couldn't even do it from the
position of "administrator". In the end, I "inactivated"
it, but it's still there... reminding me I couldn't do it.
They don't care, but I do and want to know how to do it by
the next time I visit.

:-\


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Gary S. Terhune]

That original issue, then, is definitely an anomaly. One for the XPerts.
Assuming, of course, that you actually used *THE* Administrator account, not
just an account with Administrator privileges. (Not sure that makes a
difference here, but it does in other cases.)

You didn't by chance use Fast User Switching (or whatever it's called) to
get to the "Administrator" account--logging off LimitedUser, then onto
Administrator, but leaving LimitedUser alive in the background? That strikes
me as also not doable.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 00:45:42 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> > wrote:
>
> We digressed a bit too far - I just wanted to know how do
> delete a "limited" account. I couldn't even do it from the
> position of "administrator". In the end, I "inactivated"
> it, but it's still there... reminding me I couldn't do it.
> They don't care, but I do and want to know how to do it by
> the next time I visit.
>
> :-\
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:50:29 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> That original issue, then, is definitely an anomaly. One for the XPerts.
> Assuming, of course, that you actually used *THE* Administrator account, not
> just an account with Administrator privileges. (Not sure that makes a
> difference here, but it does in other cases.)

Gaak! I didn't know there was a difference... but the real
anomoly is the option to delete "administrator" accounts is
there, but not with the limited.
>
> You didn't by chance use Fast User Switching (or whatever it's called)

Not unless I did it by mistake... having no clue what that
is.

> to
> get to the "Administrator" account--logging off LimitedUser, then onto
> Administrator, but leaving LimitedUser alive in the background? That strikes
> me as also not doable.

Maybe that was the problem. I thought I logged off
completely, but maybe I didn't.

That makes sense, thanks! I'll try it again later this
summer.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Gary S. Terhune]

I dunno. I seem to have no problem deleting a test Limited Account. Logging
on as Administrator, as opposed to a User with Administrator privileges,
requires changing the way you log on and off--and it usually isn't
necessary.

Hey, maybe you just have a glitch, <s>. Anyway, the XP folks are the ones to
ask.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:50:29 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> > wrote:
>
> > That original issue, then, is definitely an anomaly. One for the
XPerts.
> > Assuming, of course, that you actually used *THE* Administrator
account, not
> > just an account with Administrator privileges. (Not sure that makes a
> > difference here, but it does in other cases.)
>
> Gaak! I didn't know there was a difference... but the real
> anomoly is the option to delete "administrator" accounts is
> there, but not with the limited.
> >
> > You didn't by chance use Fast User Switching (or whatever it's called)
>
> Not unless I did it by mistake... having no clue what that
> is.
>
> > to
> > get to the "Administrator" account--logging off LimitedUser, then onto
> > Administrator, but leaving LimitedUser alive in the background? That
strikes
> > me as also not doable.
>
> Maybe that was the problem. I thought I logged off
> completely, but maybe I didn't.
>
> That makes sense, thanks! I'll try it again later this
> summer.
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[sf]

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:16:15 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> wrote:

> I dunno. I seem to have no problem deleting a test Limited Account. Logging
> on as Administrator, as opposed to a User with Administrator privileges,

Guess I'm unclear on the Administrator concept, before I
used that computer, I thought there was only one
administrator and all the others were a lower form of user.

1. How do I tell which "administrator" is which?
2. <you don't need to answer this> Why was I able to delete
an administrator account using Administrator "privileges",
but not the simpler "limited". Of the two, I'd think that
Administrator should be harder to do.

> requires changing the way you log on and off--and it usually isn't
> necessary.
>
> Hey, maybe you just have a glitch, <s>.

Perhaps and maybe it's something I'll be able to do the next
time I visit, given more hands on XP experience.

> Anyway, the XP folks are the ones to
> ask.

I'm over there too, but this is more fun and frankly... more
informative. Your answers give me better insight and the
ability to ask better constructed questions (I hope).

Thanks!


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